-------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n726 -------------- 001 - Calvin Woo Subject: help Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:16:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810250007.RAA15506@lists1.best.com> Just wondering if anyone has a 1982-83 swivel arm Snake Eyes that they want to trade. That's the only figure from that set that I need. I have the straight arm one and is mint, but I prefer the swivel arm one and am willing to trade straight arm version for swivel arm if anyone is interested. I've been looking for a while and this is my last resort. Sorry to clutter the list. If anyone is interested, please email me privately. Also, anyone who has Street Fighter II Movie Edition figures to sell, give me an email as well. Thanks Calvin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.2 --------------- From: Calvin Woo Subject: Re: Favorite vehicles... Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:19:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810250007.RAA15506@lists1.best.com> My favourite vehicles are: Joes: Killer Whale A.W.E. Striker Hammer Cobra: Night Raven Hydrofoil Moray BUGG (only wish I had one) Calvin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.3 --------------- From: ralarcon@skyinet.net Subject: oops again Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 15:42:19 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi again, sorry for the year mix up, Kj. The w.h. classified the joes according to teams (eco, DEF, battlecorps etc.) so I'm just following their fax and not all members of the teams are fully available (except supersonic, they're all here) send a list then I'll verify. ;) Please, don't forget to email me the want lists & back-up list to confirm availability. Thanks ! Good Luck, Richard --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.4 --------------- From: ralarcon@skyinet.net Subject: JLF Update Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 15:42:19 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In-Reply-To: <199810250310.UAA09785@lists1.best.com> Hi All, It was a pleasure chatting with you all last Friday night :) I still haven't got their fax due to the strong Typhoon But a limited few vehicle names surfaced lately. The quantity/availability is not sure but MIB Phantom X- 19 Stealth Fighter Jets, battle copters, M.BisonBadgers(?), Barracudas, & Cobra Ice Sabres(?) are mentioned. as for the Transformers, A few surfaced as well. a few Gen2 & laser Gen2, diff. coloured Japanese lazerbeak/ravage, action/head/turbo-masters etc. I will report back if they confirmed their assured availability and Complete Inventory List. If it's alright, I would like a copy of your want lists that you sent to Al/Rocketeer so I can confirm availability, Please. Pretty Please ? with Cherry on top ? :) Good Luck, Richard *hopes they got an MIB B.U.G.G.* --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.5 --------------- From: joe1635@juno.com (Joe M Gallagher) Subject: Re: Favorite vehicles... Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 10:29:50 EST My favorite Joe vehicles are: 1. AWE Striker(first GI Joe thing ever owned) 2. HAVOC 3. Tomahawk My favorite Cobra vehicles are: 1. Rattler 2. Rage 3. Hurricane/Night Raven (tie) Joe Gallagher CODE NAME: Overdrive ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.6 --------------- From: SNARF5181@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorite vehicles... Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 12:58:09 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/24/98 7:49:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, BADSCNAME@aol.com writes: << Anyone notice nearly everyone's favorite's are from the first few years of GIJOE? Cool =) --Wash&Wear >> mine would be too, but just to shake things up: Joes: 1)battle wagon 2)avalanche 3)hammer Cobra: 1) Hiss II 2) rage 3) VTOL --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.7 --------------- From: "mrsmiley!" Subject: Re: Favorite vehicles... Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:59:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My three favourite Cobra Vehicles: 1. The Night Raven--my first large cobra item, and the centre of my collection as a kid. Plus it just looks cool. 2. The Buzz Boar--This thing is totally unrealistic, and yet is such fun. 3. Asp--way cool. GI JOE: 1. Tomahawk--Little bit of everything in this baby, hooks, ropes, missles, guns, doors... 2. Monster Blaster APC--I don't care what anyone sez, spring-loaded guns on vehicles are cool. And despite the neon colour, its design was much sleeker and more attractive than the original. A great cross between a tank and an APC. 3. Awe Striker--just because. Mr. Smiley! (a slap-happy new m.... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.8 --------------- From: "Sam Fain" Subject: Re: Favorite vehicles... Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 15:07:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >OK, my 3 favorite COBRA vehicles: 1. Night Raven 2. Terrordrome(okay maybe not a vehicle but on the same lines) 3. Flight Pod >JOE vehicles... 1. The Skystriker 2. MOBAT 3. AWE Striker For some honorable mentions, there's the Hydrofoil, the USS Flagg, and the APC Sam "Shade" Fain >Yo, Joe! > > > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.9 --------------- From: "mrsmiley!" Subject: USS Flagg Question Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 12:25:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Say, I'm talking to someone IRL about purchasing a USS Flag Aircraft carrier, but I'm not sure how complete it is. Does anyone know where I can obtain a parts list for this playset? Thanks, Mr. Smiley!.... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.10 --------------- From: "Peter W. Owens" Subject: Re: Favorite vehicles Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 15:54:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810250310.UAA09785@lists1.best.com> I'm sorry if i started a topic from way back, but, since i'm only just getting back into Joe-dom, I figured I had to start somewhere. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.11 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorite vehicles... Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:04:04 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/25/98 3:10:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, mrsmiley!@goplay.com writes: << And despite the neon colour, its design was much sleeker and more attractive than the original. >> What original? The original APC? I am not sure we can compare the two like that... Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.12 --------------- From: Air Aaron Subject: Filecards Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 17:58:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I was reading through the Larry Hama interview at Zartan's Domain, and I noticed that he said he was going to do much more in-depth filecards on the characters for his own personal use when Hasbro asked him to write them on the back of the packages. Anyway, since I love the filecards and am in dire need of things for my Joe Files, I would like to ask Mr. Hama what exactly he meant by more "in-depth"? What would would you have put in there? Or, for the rest of you, what else do you think should be in the filecards? Also, I'd like everybody to check out the first part of my new fan fiction on Zartan's Domain. I sent Rod the 2nd part, but it has yet to be added to the page. Not to worry though, in time I will have my own web-site dedicated to it. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.13 --------------- From: Grendel346@aol.com Subject: subsingle Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:17:08 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit subsingle --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.14 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorite vehicles Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:18:59 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey everybody. Dunno how many of you saw the new Unproduced vehicle featured at Yo Joe!.com, but the Cobra Revenge, as all unproduced vehicles, has gotten me incredibly curious. What info does anyone have on this piece... Was it to be part of the 95 line, or an earlier one? Are their any rough dimensins on it... anything?? Hopefully, Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.15 --------------- From: "Sigi Goode (The Funk Phenomenon)" Subject: Re: subsingle Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:47:54 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810260221.SAA28335@lists1.best.com> At 21:17 25/10/98 EST, you wrote: >subsingle Good point! I don't think they'll try that again for a while! Sigi Codename: Afterburner -------------------------------------- The custom Joe filecards repository: http://members.xoom.com/filecards Check out the cards or submit one of your own! --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.16 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: RE: Hama's 25 Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:55:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Concerning this....it was either a Summer 1998 issue....so June-Spet...I don't remember which one.... > ---------- > From: BADSCNAME@aol.com[SMTP:BADSCNAME@aol.com] > Reply To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Sent: Friday, October 23, 1998 5:04 PM > To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Subject: Re: Hama's 25 > > << In an interview I read in ToyFare, they were Serpentor, Duke, and > Sergeant > Slaughter to name a few. He would not include COBRA-La no matter what. > He > disliked the Cartoonish nonsense and wanted to write an entertaining yet > realistic comic book. >> > > > Yo, dude, what issue of TF was this in? And your saying it's a Q&A w/ > Larry > Hama? > --ToyFodder > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.17 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: Doc Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:10:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain His file card says he he's an avowed pacifist....thereore Larry Hama said he was regardless of what happened in the cartoon or comic. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.18 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Hama's 25 Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 23:12:09 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Concerning this....it was either a Summer 1998 issue....so June-Spet...I don't remember which one.... >> I don't mean to pry, but what was on the cover? --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n726.19 --------------- From: klacoste@bigfoot.com (Kevin LaCoste) Subject: Re: Joe Keyrings Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:01:15 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I just picked these up at the Namco FunLand for 800 yen each. They had all four of them (Are there only four?). They have more in stock if anyone is really desperate to get them. 800 yen is maybe around 8 bucks. It looks like the ring on the back is in pretty solid so I'm afraid to yank it in case I just break the ring. Was it like that for any of you? Kevin LaCoste klacoste@bigfoot.com --------------- END gijoe.v001.n726 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n727 -------------- 001 - "Sigi Goode (The Funk Phe - Joe big in Japan? 002 - "Davis, Kyle x012 - 25 Dream Team 003 - Rottweiler - Re: Filecards 022 - EVILFACE74@aol.com - Evil's Joe Website 023 - johne - Re: Favorite vehicles... 024 - BADSCNAME@aol.com - Re: Hama's Toyfare interview Part 3 025 - BADSCNAME@aol.com - Re: Hama's Toyfare Interview Part 1 026 - "Robert Culpepper" Subject: Joe big in Japan? Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:46:45 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810260501.VAA26438@lists1.best.com> I'm off to Japan at the end of the year for a month or so to visit my parents - is Joe that big over there? Sigi ---------- http://sigi.home.ml.org Information Systems Lecturer Commerce Department Australian National University, Canberra, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.2 --------------- From: "Davis, Kyle x01276h3" Subject: 25 Dream Team Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 23:35:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I've been seeing a lot of these speculative posts about who Larry Hama would have put into a 25 man roster, and they seem to mostly agree with one another... But what about US??? I mean, what would your own personal 'dream team' of Joes look like? Not for any particularly mission efficient reasons, but maybe just because you like these guys and think they'd work well together... The Joes ARE the best of the best in our armed forces. A team made up of Manglers and Eco-Warriors, led by Ice Cream Soldier should theoretically be able to complete anything thrown at them. So, without further ado, I present "Kyle's G.I. Joe Dream Team" 1 - Psyche Out - I always thought he was an interesting character, and he gives the team and officer presence 2 - Downtown - Mortar support. Good looking figure (aside from the helmet) 3 - Hit and Run - Infantryman w/ mountaineering 4 - Alpine - Yes, we already have a climber, but between the two of them they'd be able to move the whole team. Fun character, too. 5 - Airtight 6 - Barbecue 7 - Crazylegs 8 - Dial-Tone 9 - Mainframe 10 - BackBlast - Air defense is a must 11 - Recondo - Jungle warfare 12 - Blizzard - Equipment edge makes him slightly more versatile than Iceberg or Snow Job 13 - Cool Breeze - Yes, I actually liked this guy. Excellent uniform, and he'd bring a rookie aspect that the team could mentor. 14 - Lightfoot - Loved what he did to the cache in Special Missions , plus he's a little more high-tech than Tripwire. 15 - Stalker - With his tundra incarnation he's that much more valuable. 16 - Ghostrider - I'm betting he could out fly Ace, (probably can pull more G's...) Also lends the "what's his name" comic relief. 17 - Muskrat - Underused character with potential. 18 - Fastdraw - Heavy direct fire support. 19 - Shockwave - Urban operations. 20 - Beach Head - Provides more of the grizzled vet role. I see him as First Sergeant. 21 - Sergeant Slaughter - Yes, I'd actually have him on a team. I kind of like the guy in his spokesman role for Joe, plus he'd keep the team at a high level of readiness. 22 - Quick Kick - Comic relief and hand to hand fighting 23 - Dusty - desert ops a must. 24 - Outback - he could survive anything and help the others do the same. 25 - Rock -n- Roll - Him over Roadblock just because I like the beard... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.3 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: 25 Dream Team Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 00:44:04 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810260637.WAA22097@lists1.best.com> Davis, Kyle x01276h3 wrote: > > I've been seeing a lot of these speculative posts about who Larry Hama would > have put into a 25 man roster, and they seem to mostly agree with one > another... > > But what about US??? I mean, what would your own personal 'dream team' of > Joes look like? Not for any particularly mission efficient reasons, but > maybe just because you like these guys and think they'd work well > together... The Joes ARE the best of the best in our armed forces. A team > made up of Manglers and Eco-Warriors, led by Ice Cream Soldier should > theoretically be able to complete anything thrown at them. > > So, without further ado, I present "Kyle's G.I. Joe Dream Team" (snip) Well, here's my dream team. You'll notice that it's very similar to my last one in terms of what kinds of specialists are on the team, but many of the characters chosen to fill those slots are different. 1 - Hawk. He'd be in charge of the Joes, the way Austin was in the early comics. Since Hawk's not a desk jockey by nature, I'd have him be paralyzed from the waist down, as the result of his last battle with Cobra. 2 - Falcon. The field commander of the team. 3 - Beach Head. Promote him to E-8 and you have the perfect "bad cop" First Shirt. Replaces Snake Eyes as the team's "masked man". 4 - Sub-Zero. Someone needs to provide artillery support. Sub-Zero doubles as the arctic expert, making him most valuable to a small team. He can even serve as a machine gunner. This guy just screams "versatile". 6 - Heavy Duty. Anti-armor. 7 - Backblast. Aircraft killer. 8 - Roadblock. The coolest of the three dedicated machine gunners and he can cook, too. I'd love to see a figure of him in BDUs and a "kiss the cook" apron. 5 - Leatherneck. Marine. Picked over Gung-Ho because he's younger and doubles as the team's drill sergeant. 9 - Low-Light. Sniper and interesting character. 10 - Freefall. Paratrooper. 11 - Recoil. Recon. 12 - Hit & Run. The basic infantryman and a character with lots of potential. 13 - Clutch. I like his personality and he seems best suited for driving any of the Joes' land vehicles, since he's been with them from the beginning. 14 - Cover Girl. Tank gunner and mechanic. Since Clutch is the other mechanic and drives whatever tank Cover Girl will be in, there's plenty of potential for conflict. 15 - Heavy Metal. Tank commander. His "intelligent guy from the working class" background makes him a different kind of contrast to Cover Girl than the uncouth Clutch. 16 - Torpedo. Most interesting of the SEALs, IMHO, plus his martial arts skills allow you to have a hand-to-hand specialist without bringing in uberkampfer Snake Eyes or ninja Storm Shadow. 17 - Pathfinder. Younger jungle specialist than Recondo and he can also serve as a forward observer or join Recoil on recon duty. Token "guy from the swamps". 18 - Dusty. Desert expert. 19 - Shockwave. Urban expert. 20 - Slipstream. Fixed-wing pilot, computer expert/repairman and comic relief. 21 - Lift-Ticket. Helicopter pilot. Wild Bill's too old for the job and Lift-Ticket is the most interesting of the younger pilots, IMHO. 22 - Shipwreck. Oversees naval operations. Doubles as a Navy SEAL. 23 - Stretcher. Best medic since Doc is dead. 24 - Dial-Tone. Best communications guy since Breaker is dead. Also, I've always had a soft spot for this guy because he's from my home state. :-) 25 - Lady Jaye. I like the idea of a method actress as a spy. Also, the following Joes would be trained to be able to perform the following jobs: Tank loader - Hit & Run. Chosen so he'd be lower in rank than Clutch, Cover Girl and Heavy Metal, who would all get promotions. Clutch and Cover Girl would be E-5s and Heavy Metal an E-6. Helicopter/Fixed-wing gunner - Heavy Duty. Combat aircraft usually carry heavy weapons, so Heavy Duty seems like the best choice for the job. Flamethrower - Roadblock. Seems appropriate for a chef. -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.4 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Hama's 25 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 06:35:06 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/25/98 11:26:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, BADSCNAME@aol.com writes: << I don't mean to pry, but what was on the cover? >> The issue was May 1998, and Batman and Robin (New Animated verison) on the cover. Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.5 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Hama's Toyfare interview Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 04:27:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The interview is in the May 1998 issue of ToyFare. Batman and Robin figures are on the cover. Just clearin' things up! JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.6 --------------- From: Joseph Smith Subject: Please, Hama, don't hurt us! Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 9:25:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Two points to anyone who recognizes the off-beat reference to a cheesy 80's musician in my subject line. Hey, it is awesome that Mr. Hama is still with this list. I'm also pleased that my thread about his 25 prompted a response from him. I can't wait to see who else he would select. And I've said it once, and I'll say it again. If you loved Mr. Hama's writing on Joe, you'll LOVE his work on the Nth Man. I am reading this series through again (for the 3rd time) and it is spectacular. Sometimes classics are overlooked by contemporary fans and need a while to "gestate" before they are truly appreciated for the art they are. So in the case of the Nth Man. It was also cool, because I was in Saudi Arabia while this series was going on. I'd get my dad to buy two copies, one to send me overseas, and one keep at home. The one I'd get overseas would invariably wind up getting passed around the platoon and get tore up. Hence, I had one waiting for me at home. I found out later the comic shop owner would usually just *give* my dad the comics because he knew I was in Saudi Arabia. If you have a chance to pick this epic series up, it would behoove you. It deals with a ninja assassin, World War III, a mad telekinetic, and best of all, pages and pages of the Soviet military (We got yer Spetsnaz, we got yer Navel Infantry, in awesome painstaking detail). All in a tightly wound story with believable characters that remain consistent and seamless throughout despite flashbacks and complex story-telling techniques. It was a strange mix of material that would appeal to a wide range of ages. The whole series is as if Marvel just said: "Here you go, Larry, have fun, no rules from us." Ok, delirious fanboy mode off. (but I *do* got issue 1 autographed by duh man!) Joey Smith "Smitty"--Waiting for the perfect idea for an Nth Man custom figure to come to mind. --PRAYING FOR LARRY TO WRITE JOE OR NTH MAN AGAIN. ***************************************************** From: Joseph Smith Walk Thru the Bible Ministries Tel: 770-451-9300 (Local) 1-800-868-9300 (Inside US) Fax: 770-454-9313 E-mail Address: jsmith@walkthru.org Home Page: http://www.walkthru.org For more information via email send a blank email to: info@walkthru.org ***************************************************** --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.7 --------------- From: "DeVoe, Gary (DEVOEGW)" Subject: Indianapolis Find Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:56:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yo Joes: I picked up the rear-turret section of the Night Force Night Blaster (Cobra Maggot repaint). The turret is predominantly black, with the 4 yellow "hydraulically-operated support arms", and has some decals on it. From what I can tell, it seems complete - the entire cannon is intact and there doesn't seem to be any open holes or fittings where additional pieces would go. If anyone needs this item or would like to have it for their collection please let me know! -Triage --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.8 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: RE: Hama's 25 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:35:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I don't remember...I read 'em and throw them out...The only reason I like it is because of the humor....ex) Twisted Mego Theater.... > ---------- > From: BADSCNAME@aol.com[SMTP:BADSCNAME@aol.com] > Reply To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 1998 10:12 PM > To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Subject: Re: Hama's 25 > > << Concerning this....it was either a Summer 1998 issue....so > June-Spet...I > don't remember which one.... >> > > > I don't mean to pry, but what was on the cover? > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.9 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: RE: Hama's 25 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:36:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Could anyone please post the text for this Lara Hama interview on a Website? > ---------- > From: BespinRunt@aol.com[SMTP:BespinRunt@aol.com] > Reply To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Sent: Monday, October 26, 1998 5:35 AM > To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Subject: Re: Hama's 25 > > In a message dated 10/25/98 11:26:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, > BADSCNAME@aol.com writes: > > << I don't mean to pry, but what was on the cover? >> > The issue was May 1998, and Batman and Robin (New Animated verison) on the > cover. > > Straight-Edge > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.10 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: RE: Hama's Toyfare interview Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:39:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Could anyone post this interview...I should have saved it, but I throw the magazines out after I read them. > ---------- > From: James McFadden[SMTP:jmmcfadd@yahoo.com] > Reply To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Sent: Monday, October 26, 1998 6:27 AM > To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Subject: Hama's Toyfare interview > > > The interview is in the May 1998 issue of ToyFare. Batman and Robin > figures are on the cover. > > Just clearin' things up! > > > JMM > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.11 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Re: Please, Hama, don't hurt us! Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:01:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Joseph Smith wrote: > > Two points to anyone who recognizes the off-beat reference to a cheesy 80's musician in my subject Aw, that's easy. Who can forget M.C. Hammer. Specifically, "Please, Hammer don't hurt 'em!" It helps if you pronounce "Hammer" the New England way, like I do! JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.12 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Hama's Toyfare Interview Part 1 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:12:11 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Quizzing G.I.Joe's commander-in-chief on walking the fine line between art and commerce Larry Hama by Tim Root Talk about real men. Hasbro's 1982 revival of the classic G.I.Joe toy line featured some pretty rough customers. Hard-nosed soldiers like Duke, Roadblock, and Snake-Eyes, and the original G.I.Janes like Scarlett and Lady Jaye--- were as lean and mean as they come. But they all took their marching orders from one man. For the duration of Hasbro's G.I.Joe update, subtitlesd A Real American Hero, New-York-based writer (Woo-Hoo! -sXe) Larry Hama was responsible for naming and fleshing out virtually every character in the franchises mammoth roster. He's the guy who christened Destro and the Baroness. He's the guy who concocted personalities for Storm Shadow and Zartan. He's the guy who wrote up those clip-'n'-save dossier files on the back of every blister card. When Hama latches onto a project, its for the long haul. Between 1982 and 1994, he penned more than 150 issues of Marvel comics' regular GIJoe comic book series, as well as numerous annuals and spin-offs. After Joe, Hama went to write more than 80 issues of marvel's immensely popular Wolverine series. ToyFare caught up to Hama at his Manhattan office, where he now splits his time between writing marvel Comics' Generation X and feature film work like the upcoming "Real Time Warriors." ToyFare: Larry, at what point did you get involved with the 1980s GIJoe toy line? Hama: Hasbro made a deal with marvel to do the comic before they even actually had a physical toy to show us. They were completely in the development stage, but they knew they wanted a Marvel comic. So [Then Marvel Editor-in-chief] Jim Shooter went down the hall and asked every writer if they wanted to do it and every editor if they wanted to handle it. I was the last person they asked. Even though I was an editor at Marvel at the time, I wasn't getting any writing work. Every editor said, "You're a penciler, you're not a writer." Therefore I had special dispensation from [Shooter] to write comics for another company while I was an editor at Marvel. I think I was the only person who ever had that! [Laughs] G.I.Joe fell to me because I was the only one who would do it. At the meeting with Hasbro, Archie Goodwin, Jim Shooter, Nelson Yomtov, and Denny O'Niel were there. They had these very sort of vague character sketches of 10 characters. Archie asked, "Well, who's the bad guy?" and they said, "Well, we don't have one." And we said, "What are these guys gonna do? Just sort of march around and have maneuvers and stuff?" We talked Hasbro into the fact that they had to have an opponent. I think it was Archie who just off the top of his head said, "Yeah, we'll call them something like Cobra." (Archie Goodwin was the noted early eighties Star Wars writer... and has gone up to that big comic book company in the sky. Its humbling, and --pardon me-- pretty cool to know he had a hand in the GIJoe launch. RIP Mr Goodwin -sXe). *Note: all brackets are the ToyFare writer's insertions ... parenthesis are mine. straightedge can be abbreviated sXe.* More to come, Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.13 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Hama's Toyfare interview Part 2 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:34:22 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TF: So what was your imput in creating the Joes? Hama: Hasbro had no names for these characters. They had a picture of a guy that said "infantryman" and a picture of another guy that said "Covert Operation Specialist" or something. I took the whole package home and wrote up the first bunch of dossiers. As far as I know, I created the concept of putting dossiers on the backs of toy packages, which has become an industry standard. In fact, everyone has been copying my form! (Can you say hubris, Mr. Hama ;-) -sXe) One paragraph would give you a solid background; name, age (not really -sXe), where this guy is from. Then the second paragraph succinctly gives you an inkling of his personality, a little anecdote by a fellow team member. That was the real key: to writw it so that a 6 -or 7-year old kid reading it could read it absolutely straight and think it was a totally military fantasy, but an adult reading it would get the other side of the joke. TF: So origiinal characters like Duke and Snake-Eyesand Scarlett, those were all your creations? Hama: I gave them names and put the characters on their feet. I did not create the visuals, but I created the personalities. [For Scarlett], Hasbro had a picture of this girl and she had red hair and she was carrying a crossbow, and I had to figure out what that was all about. The Destro thing, they said, "All right, we'll give this guy a sliver mask and blah blah blah," and he was some sort of arms dealer. I had to take some bare bones stuff like that and try to fit into a universe and have it all make some sort of sense. TF: So which came first --- The toys of the comic book? Hama: It was all simultaneous. [The comic series] was a way to get around the restriction on the amoutn of animation [allowed] in a toy commercial. I believe you can only have 10 seconds of animation in a 30 second toy spot --- the rest has to be real pictures of the actual toy. But a really bright guy at Hasbo figured out one day that if you have a printed publication, and you buy advertising fr that publication, they can't restrict how you adevertise because the publication's protected by the first ammendment [laughs]. So you happen to have a comic book that just happens to have all the toys you want to promote. Hasbro said, "Ok, you make this deal with us to license GIJoe as a comic book and we'll thrw in four commercials a year for the comics ---every third issue would be a TV spot." That is the way they were able to create 30-second commercials for the comic --- and I think these were the first comics that ever had TV commercials --- totally animated, totally gonzo, totally action packed from start to finish. hasbro would have all the toys they wanted to promote, plus we would get the benefit of having these TV commercials for our comic. And boy, we sold a lot of comics. That challenge was that Hasbro would do these commercials first that then I woul have to write the comic that fit this commercial. So of course they wouldn't try to do a story in a commercial; they were just great action scenes. Hasbro would pomote a SEAL trooper and a scuba guy at the same time as they were promoting and ice or snow vehicle and a hang glider and desert vehicle. This all looks great smashed together oin a commerical, but then you've got to write a single story with scuba diving and deserts and snow stalking. Whoa! [Laughs] More, Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.14 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Hama's Toyfare interview Part 3 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:53:25 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TF: What sort of involvement did you have in the animated series? Hama: None. It was out of California and they have their own "A" List of network-approved qwriters. If you're not on the list -- and its a short list -- forget it. Saturday morning shows would all use the same list. That's why they were the same! And safe. Real safe. TF:Did you feel restricted writing a comic book series so heavily tied into a toy line? Hama: No. [My restrictions] appplied only to the four comics a year that they would do advertising. I think that was only in the first two or three years of the line in which they did those commercials. For the rest of it, I had pretty much carte blanche. I had more freedom writing GIJoe than I've had writing anything else, mainly because I came up with these characters [and] I was actually the only real authority on them. I think I went thru like 8 or nine editors on the run, and almost every year the liason at Hasbro would change. So every 18 months or so I was dealing with a whole new batch of people on both sides who knew nothing about GIJoe. If there was ever any question, they would have to come to me, which also made it difficult for anybody to do a fill-in. In a way, I made myself indespensible to the line. Lord knows they tried to get around it! [Laughs] Five or six years down the pike Hasbro decided that paying me to write the dossiers was way too expensive, an they were going to just get somebody in- house to do it. It didn't take them too long to figure out that it was a lot harder to do. They had to come back to me. (A little lesson obviously forgotten when doing the 97/98 lines... no offense to Mr Wheeler, but Hama does it best! -sXe) TF: What was the concept-to-toy-to-comic process like? Hama: What was good about the whole relationship was that [Hasbro] would design the visuals, and it was my job to take whatever they'd come up with and put some logic to it-- to try to figure out some way to explain why this ridiiculous thing made sense within the parameters of this particular universe. Sometimes I just couldn't do it. [Laughs] TF: What were some of the concepts you siply could not make sense of? Hama: Serpentor was something I thought was really dicey to begin with. I gave it my best shot when [GIJoe] started getting on the fringe of being supernatural. I think that's when it went askew, when Hasbro tried to get too freaky with it. I told them there was a certain sort of real world logic to this type of fantasy that you have to stick to. You can't really jump boundaries on it. The Dreadnoks were originally going to be sort of knock-offs of the Ewoks -- cute furry teddy-bear bad guys running around. And I said, "Wait, you can't have the good guys shooting these teddy bears. Stop and think about this!" [Laughs] That's the one I really went to war with. I said, "Look, you can't do this! You've got to make them, like, obnoxious bikers or something." Luckily, they relented. TF: The Dreadnoks were going to be EWOKS? Hama: [Return of the Jedi] had just comout and everybody had gone Ewoks crazy. I said, "No, it just doesnt scan!" More follows, Straight-EDge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.15 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Hama's Toyfare interview Part 4 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:07:27 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TF: Were there any other ridiculous ides like that? Hama: There were a few characters that they tired to shove at me that I flatly refused to use. I said, "No. You can't have them in there, but I won't write them. If you want them, fire me off the book and get somebody else to write these characters." LiIke the Cobra-la [team] and Golobulus -- characters in the "GIJoe" movie feature. I thought the movie was so wretched that I just flatly refused. There were other edicts that I had to bite the bullet and go along with intil they came to their senses. One year, Hasbro sent us a fax that said, "These covers are too violent. From now on, no more guns on the covers." And we said, "What? [Laughs] Are they just going to be standing around waving at eachother? What are we going to do?" I think the [art] that caused it all was the most non-violent cover that we ever actually had. It featured Roadblock holding his masive .50-caliber machine gun, dominating the cover... really cool... but I guess it was so cool that it scared the hell out of them. TF: So Hasbro had imput on the comic series all the time? Hama: Yeah. There were things I just couldn't talk them out of. In the ["GIJoe'"] feature film, for instance, they had the Cobra Commander die. One day we got this edict that said "Cobra Commander dies in the movie, so you have to kill him off in the comics." And we said, "Wait a minute, that's like killing off D. Doom or Magneto! Even though he's a bad guy, he's an extremly popular character." They said, "Well, it has to match the movie continuity." So we killed him off. Thousands of people wrote in and said they would never buy the comic again. TF: Cobra Commander ha something of a rabid fan following, didn't he? Hama: There aren't that many characters in comics that are nicely over the top. Cobra Commander was fun because he was so nasty, and at the saem time he could really be eloquent. I really saw him as somebody who was fascinated by the sound of his own voice. I pictured him speaking in, oddly enough, the voice of [conservative mouthpiece] William F. Buckley. [Laughs] Whenever I was writing Cobra Commander dialogue, I was sort of like, "Well, how would BIll Buckley say this>" And that usually gave me inspiration to come up with something. Of course, one last part, Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.16 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: Larry Hama-ToyFare Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:16:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Bespin Runt put in part of the Toy Fare interview in the Pit. Does anyone have those issues that they could copy and send to me? I should have kept them... Hama gives a slightly different version of the creation of our little Joes than DeSimone or the corporate people do... The comic rocks and they should bring it back. Larry Hama is to G.I.Joe as George Lucas is to StarWars. There is only one authoritative cannon. BTW-Do I sound like a broken record yet? My favorite toys were: 1. Dragonfly XH-1 2. Mauler MBT 3. Skystriker XP-14F 1. H.I.S.S. 2. Ferret 3. Rattler --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.17 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Hama's Toyfare interview Part 5 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:34:57 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TF: Even when you were up past 100 issues, did your relationship with hasbro ever change? Hama: I always had a good relationship with hasbro, compared to almost any other toy license. Lord knows we dealt with a lot of toy licenses at marvel. The average life of a toy license isn't that long. I think I might be wrong, but I think Joe has the record for a licensed toy comic. If you go three years, thats considered a long time. GIJOe lasted 14 years. (Actually 12, but a mistake even I commonly make, when you think of 1994, the number 14 pops into your head... --sXe) TF: Have you ever done any non-GIJoe toy work? Hama: I wrote all the dossiers for [Hasbro's] COPS. [The "COPS" animated series] only lasted two seasons. That was actually fun because they said, "It's ok to be wacky with this." I got to make up some funny stuff, I thought. TF:You designed Bucky O'Hare as well, right? Hama: Bucky O'Hare I created from the ground up in the '70s. IT took a long time -- something like 12 0r 14 years --- to get it off the ground. The thing that always bugged me about toys was that they would never match the comci of movie. When I designed the Bucky characters, I knew they would all have 3-millimeter holes in the bottm of their feet so I told [Bucky O'Hare illustrator] Micheal [Golden] that all the comic book characters had to have 3-millimeter holes in the bottoms of their feet. And since its impractical to mold three dimensional holsters to put their stuff in, we're going to design these characters so that they would have 3mm plugs sticking out of their belts and all the weapons would have 3mm holes as well. You don't have to make any compromises -- the continuity and reality is really consitent. I guess I was an overly protected kid, but that was important to me. And I figured it was probably important to a lot of kids. TF: How did you explain those holes in the feet? Hama: We didnt. [Laughs] I mean, you dont hav eto explain that stuff. The whole concept was [about] a live action kid who gets sucked into this animated universe. This was way before "Roger Rabbit". But we had a TV show, and a toy line that sold plenty of licneses, so I can't complain. TF: Where did all your military knowledge come from? Hama: I was in the Army from 1969 to 1971. By the time I was doing Joe, almost everything had change. I had to go back and get references and really study up. A lot of the SOP [Standard Operaiting Procedures] had changed. I figured certain real stuff and procedures had to be as accurate as possible. ranks and methodology of operations had to be pretty close. TF: Overall, how did you view the potrayal of American Soldiers in GIJoe? Hama: I was very concerned about showing it from a real "grunt" point of view. If there was any inadvertent flag-waving, I never saw it as being that way. The Joes were always doing, in my mind, a dirty job, and the powers that be that fed them assignments were guys who really didn't care about them. They were always getting the short end of the stick. I thought it was imortant not to give kids the idea that the military was some sort of neat heroic fantasy -- that heroism was personal and had nothing to do with patriotism. Heroism in combat and loyalty in the battlefield has to do with your relationship to the five other gys in the squad first, and then way down the line maybe loyalty to the flag. [Laughs] And you had to make the foe a real person. It was important for Cobra to have charater and personailties to belive in what they were doing, to show the viewpoint that "You are fighting people who may believe just as strongly in what they are doing as you do. That they are not ciphers -- its not about knocking down nameless targets." whew, Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.18 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: ToyFare Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:06:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain After digesting this interview....can anyone really argue that Hama wan't very influential in the toyline, that the file cards are very important and that Hama should be involved with any "A Real American Hero" project? --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.19 --------------- From: "mrsmiley!" Subject: Re: Favorite vehicles... Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:43:50 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ><< And despite the neon colour, its design > was much sleeker and more attractive than the original. >> >What original? >The original APC? I am not sure we can compare the two like that... > >Straight-Edge I made the comparison because they both serve in the same basic capacity, to transport troops. From a design perspective, I find it more asthetically pleasing in its sharp lines and heavy detail than the original APC, which was designed to mimic a far more realistic vehicle. I see what you mean, though. The two would compete in different categories on any other basis due to the fact that they were designed with different criteria in mind (the original for realism, the Monster Blaster for play), at different times, and by different people. But, given a choice between the two, I'd have to go with the monster. Mr. Smiley! .... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.20 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorite vehicles... Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:01:48 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/26/98 4:42:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, mrsmiley!@goplay.com writes: << But, given a choice between the two, I'd have to go with the monster. >> ditto, if we just look at it your way, The MB APC was way cooler! sXe --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.21 --------------- From: Eugene Subject: Re: Filecards Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:10:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810252301.PAA13439@lists1.best.com> At 2:58 PM -0800 10/25/98, Air Aaron wrote: >I was reading through the Larry Hama interview at Zartan's Domain, and I >noticed that he said he was going to do much more in-depth filecards on the >characters for his own personal use when Hasbro asked him to write them on >the back of the packages. Anyway, since I love the filecards and am in dire >need of things for my Joe Files, I would like to ask Mr. Hama what exactly >he meant by more "in-depth"? What would would you have put in there? Or, >for the rest of you, what else do you think should be in the filecards? Last year when we interviewed Larry Hama for Yojoe.com, I asked him about his in-depth notes and filecards. This is what he told me, (I hope Mr. Hama doesn't mind me republishing this): ************ My original file cards were for my own reference and not for publication. As they are, they are probably indecipherable to anybody who is not familiar with Army S.O.P., grunt jargon and tech nomenclature. They also contain story and character references that are wholly personal; ie; a note that a certain character is based on intelligence specialist so-and-so from S-2 up in Ban Me Thuot. Some of my plots are equally undecipherable if they were meant to be drawn by somebody like Mike Golden, who is familiar with all the hardware and terminology. In writing for Golden, I could say that a character hopped off a loach humping a ma-deuce while willy pete was popping, and he would know exactly what I wanted. ************ -Eugene ------------------------------------------------------------ eugenE | YO JOE! |--------------------------------------- eson@yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! ------------------------------------------------------------ "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" ------------------------------------------------------------ "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.22 --------------- From: EVILFACE74@aol.com Subject: Evil's Joe Website Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:53:04 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd like to let everyone know that my webpage is now up and running and to check it out. There is a GI Joe section that has a lot of my custom figures, Action Force and a special Figure of the Week. So drop by and tell me what you think. Thanx EVILFACE Evil's Fourth Circle http://members.tripod.com/EVILFACE/Home.htm --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.23 --------------- From: johne Subject: Re: Favorite vehicles... Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:59:41 -0700 (MST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810251759.JAA03277@lists1.best.com> GIJOE; 1) Persuader 2) Whale 3) Tomahawk Cobra; 1) AGP 2) Sea Ray 3) Pogo Ball (can you believe that!) Sharpshot --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.24 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Hama's Toyfare interview Part 3 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:10:40 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << TF: The Dreadnoks were going to be EWOKS? >> goood....lord.... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.25 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Hama's Toyfare Interview Part 1 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:22:46 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit THANK YOU !!! Mr. Straight-Edge, for taking the time to post this for all of us to see. =D --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.26 --------------- From: "Robert Culpepper" Subject: G.I. Joe Cartoon IRC RPG Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:33:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Remember, the cartoon IRC Role Playing Game will take place Tuesday night on channel #Joe_RPG at irc.webmaster.com . The game starts promptly at 7pm Central (8pm Eastern). If you have any questions, refer to the RPG home page at http://members.xoom.com/shipshap1/joe_rpg . If you enjoy the cartoon, and playing Joe, this is an experience you gotta join in on. Robert Culpepper IRC RPG: GeneralHawk --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n727.27 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: G.I. Joe Cartoon IRC RPG Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:33:51 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yo, dude, i tried to go to http://members.xoom.com/shipshap1/joe_rpg, but it came back as an error. Typo maybe? --Wash&Wear Primary MOS: Amphibious Assault --------------- END gijoe.v001.n727 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n728 -------------- 001 - BespinRunt@aol.com - Re: Hama's Toyfare Interview Part 1 002 - BespinRunt@aol.com - Re: Evil's Joe Website 003 - James McFadden > The least I could do :-) I remember how elated I was when I first saw it, and I assumed everyone else here would have read it too. When I saw there were a few of you who hadn't, I just felt I had to. Hope you all enjoyed it. Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.2 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Evil's Joe Website Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 06:34:55 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/26/98 10:08:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, EVILFACE74@aol.com writes: << I'd like to let everyone know that my webpage is now up and running and to check it out. There is a GI Joe section that has a lot of my custom figures, Action Force and a special Figure of the Week. So drop by and tell me what you think. Thanx >> Holy crap! Thems is some of the best customs I've ever seen!!! Simple, military... I want a Gung-Ho that looks like that!! Wow! why is it that everyone but me seems to have extraordinary talent at painting action figures, and a hell of a lot of figures to spare to do customs with... Ah well, I can live vicariously thru you , and the other great customizers of the web. Keep up the good work. Straight-EDge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.3 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Re: Evil's Joe Website Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 06:39:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---BespinRunt@aol.com wrote: > Holy crap! > Thems is some of the best customs I've ever seen!!! > Simple, military... I want a Gung-Ho that looks like that!! I think that figure is based on Ron Wagner's drawings of Gung-Ho from the comics. He didn't like GH's bright colors OR bare chest. If you look at his artwork he draws his own versions of some of the characters! Later. JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.4 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: RE: Evil's Joe Website Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:46:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Ron Wagner was the best artist on the Joe comic, although I've begun to appreciate Mike Vosberg's work on the early issues more recently. > ---------- > From: James McFadden[SMTP:jmmcfadd@yahoo.com] > Reply To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 8:39 AM > To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Subject: Re: Evil's Joe Website > > > ---BespinRunt@aol.com wrote: > > Holy crap! > > Thems is some of the best customs I've ever seen!!! > > Simple, military... I want a Gung-Ho that looks like that!! > > I think that figure is based on Ron Wagner's drawings of Gung-Ho from > the comics. He didn't like GH's bright colors OR bare chest. If you > look at his artwork he draws his own versions of some of the characters! > > Later. > JMM > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.5 --------------- From: "Robert Culpepper" Subject: Re: G.I. Joe Cartoon IRC RPG Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:23:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I mistyped.... URL for the G.I. Joe IRC RPG should be http://members.xoom.com/shipshape1/joe_rpg . Sorry about that everyone... type demons... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.6 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: Lifeline question Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:14:09 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 From: Jean E Riedlinger Date: Friday, October 23, 1998 7:16 PM >In the comic, issue #11, Doc is cornered by a Cobra >person (Destro, shown only in the shadows) and he >(Doc) says, "The Geneva Convention says I can't fire >a weapon but it don't say a thing about snowballs..." >I assumed he meant that as a medic, he just wasn't >allowed to carry a weapon. If that's true, than Lifeline >wouldn't carry a weapon anyway, pacifist or not. To clarify all of this (if Kyle hasn't done so already), according to my brother Brian (SSgt. Brian L. Bernay, full-time Medic/ Medical Admin NCO in the Army National Guard), medics get a choice: they can either wear the Red Cross brassard on their uniform and go unarmed or don't wear it and go armed...most choose to not wear it and go armed. I guess Doc and Lifeline would be the exceptions. So we need a Joe medic who, like my brother, goes without the Red Cross and is also fully trained and good with weapons! Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNjYNccSNrCBK3ASDEQJ8ggCgvmJlGFxXQzoi4W6I31x6+BU54n8AoLVC nAY43hZN0lp0vV68MR9FZQbs =Asg3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.7 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: Favorite vehicles... Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:22:42 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 My favorite 3 Joe vehicles?? 1. SLAM 2. Dragonfly 3. HAVOC My favorite 3 Cobra vehicles?? 1. HISS 2. Thunder Machine 3. Trouble Bubble Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNjYPcsSNrCBK3ASDEQL6CgCfdfC5pV60AIRcIOOqiuB2hyRpUigAoIPI DPiqW5Farj911Ow0/FXJzOPe =/aXZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.8 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: Lifeline question Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:37:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810271816.KAA05675@lists1.best.com> Adam Bernay wrote: > > To clarify all of this (if Kyle hasn't done so already), according to > my brother Brian (SSgt. Brian L. Bernay, full-time Medic/ Medical > Admin NCO in the Army National Guard), medics get a choice: they can > either wear the Red Cross brassard on their uniform and go unarmed or > don't wear it and go armed...most choose to not wear it and go armed. > I guess Doc and Lifeline would be the exceptions. So we need a Joe > medic who, like my brother, goes without the Red Cross and is also > fully trained and good with weapons! Well, unlike those of Doc and Lifeline, Stretcher's filecard says nothing about pacifism, so I would assume that he is an armed medic. > > Adam Bernay > CODE NAME: Maccabee -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.9 --------------- From: EVILFACE74@aol.com Subject: Re: Evil's Joe Website Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:44:14 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/27/98 5:42:15 AM Central Standard Time, BespinRunt@aol.com writes: << Holy crap! Thems is some of the best customs I've ever seen!!! Simple, military... I want a Gung-Ho that looks like that!! Wow! why is it that everyone but me seems to have extraordinary talent at painting action figures, and a hell of a lot of figures to spare to do customs with... Ah well, I can live vicariously thru you , and the other great customizers of the web. Keep up the good work. Straight-EDge >> Thanx. I'm glad you like Gung Ho. He was originally supposed to be someone else, but GH's head looked a bit better so I went with him. He isn't based on anyone's depiction, only my own. It actually doesn't take a lot of talent, just a little patience, paint, and a toothpick for the detailed parts. Just have fun doing it. Just practice on a worthless figure (something like a Star Wars: The Power of the Force is a good practice figure). I have build model cars for years and decided to make some Joes. I'll put up some of my very first custom figures, they were super heroes and they are.....um.....a little goofy but I'll put them up for the fun of it soon. EVILFACE --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.10 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Lifeline question Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:12:43 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/27/98 2:11:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, crazyguy@cnnw.net writes: << Well, unlike those of Doc and Lifeline, Stretcher's filecard says nothing about pacifism, so I would assume that he is an armed medic. >> Stalker is also a qualified medic, and uses a weapon... sXe --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.11 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Evil's Joe Website Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:24:13 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Ron Wagner was the best artist on the Joe comic, although I've begun to appreciate Mike Vosberg's work on the early issues more recently. >> I much perfered Wildman myself :) --Wash&Wear --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.12 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: Re: Evil's Joe Website Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:27:41 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/27/98 6:42:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, BespinRunt@aol.com writes: > Holy crap! > Thems is some of the best customs I've ever seen!!! > Simple, military... I want a Gung-Ho that looks like that!! > Wow! why is it that everyone but me seems to have extraordinary talent at > painting action figures, and a hell of a lot of figures to spare to do > customs > with... > Ah well, I can live vicariously thru you , and the other great customizers > of > the web. > Keep up the good work. > Straight-EDge I also have no talent... But today I picked up about 100 misc. Body parts for five bucks so I am match together iones in bad shape and test my painting... maybe something will turn out... Anyway those are great customs Matt --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.13 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: A quick question about Borovia Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:03:28 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the later issues of the Joe book, Larry changed the name of Borovia to Borigia/Kranszy-Marango. Now while searching for the correct Russian names for Red Star and Big Bear of the Rodina Gvardia, I came to find out that Red=Kranszy in Russian. So, my question is, to Mr. Hama, or anyone, what does Marango mean... and was there any significance to the change, or was it something that was just thrwn in there... satirical-like? (Ok, so only Larry can answer that) Peas, Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.14 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: G.I. Joe Cartoon IRC RPG Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:04:21 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ummmm no body was there --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.15 --------------- From: ralarcon@skyinet.net Subject: Confirmed Vehicles Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:20:45 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi again, These are now confirmed: Detonator x 2 Interrogator x10 Battle Wagon x 1 Stealth Fighter x 2 (1 MIB, 1 loose complete but no figure) Sky Raven x 1 (loose, painted blue, used as display but Complete) Barracuda x 5 Crimson Cruiser x 3 The prices for these vehicles are not sure & are not discounted unlike the 1994 line vehicles and I assume that these are MIB. I plan to inspect them this week or the next to check their condition. Another concern is that some of them may have damages due to storage/floods but still in their boxes. Other vehicles may still show up since some of them have been there untouched since 1989. ******* ANYWAY, I would like to request to ship FIGURES ONLY for the Trial Run to make shipping easier for now but keep sending vehicles list as well to at least check for availability. I'm READY to order from the warehouse and I'll be waiting your lists from AL/Rocketeer and will keep you updated. Don't forget to CC me the want list & back-up list when you send them to AL/Rocketeer.Thanks ! Good Luck, Richard --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.16 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: ToyFare Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:58:29 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 From: Eric Leavitt Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 1:28 PM >After digesting this interview....can anyone really >argue that Hama wan't very influential in the toyline, >that the file cards are very important and that Hama >should be involved with any "A Real American >Hero" project? I would say that it would be wonderful if Mr. Hama would be, but I would say that, as long as we get a good writer who will be faithful to the ideas and concepts behind RAH, it would be fine. No offense meant to Mr. Hama, but I am a realist and I know he won't necessarily be involved due to the way business works. I accept that and hope for the best as far as writers go. Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNjakdcSNrCBK3ASDEQJfWQCcC0QCMVYTETssJ6v3WkOWdfiH4YMAn06M 5Y9qBXPz9dOYyiJm9yVcHcZo =IGZ5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.17 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Confirmed Vehicles Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:23:01 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Could a Joe-Nut out there please identify these vehicles for us listfolk who don't have time to search YOJOE.com? Detonator x 2 Interrogator x10 Barracuda x 5 Crimson Cruiser x 3 ThanX! --Interrocuda --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.18 --------------- From: Jared C Durst Subject: Re: A quick question about Borovia Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:32:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What is this "Joe Book" you are talking about? Is it the comic or what? Jared At 07:03 PM 10/27/98 EST, you wrote: >In the later issues of the Joe book, Larry changed the name of Borovia to >Borigia/Kranszy-Marango. >Now while searching for the correct Russian names for Red Star and Big Bear of >the Rodina Gvardia, I came to find out that Red=Kranszy in Russian. >So, my question is, to Mr. Hama, or anyone, what does Marango mean... and was >there any significance to the change, or was it something that was just thrwn >in there... satirical-like? (Ok, so only Larry can answer that) > >Peas, >Straight-Edge > > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.19 --------------- From: WyvernDrag@aol.com Subject: Re: Confirmed Vehicles Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:43:53 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/28/98 12:32:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, BADSCNAME@aol.com writes: > Detonator x 2 A Cobra Vehicle, dark blue, somewhat big, with a large cannon that fires missiles, and comes with Nitro-Viper(a repainted Track-Viper), the only G.I.Joe figure with no file card. > Interrogator x10 Actually, the name of this vehicle is the Cobra Battle copter. Interrogator is the pilot. > Barracuda x 5 A small black and blue G.I.Joe submarine > Crimson Cruiser x 3 A repainted G.I.Joe Badger, for the Street Fighter subset. It comes with M. Bison C-V --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n728.20 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: A quick question about Borovia Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:36:01 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/28/98 12:47:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, j-durst@cu- online.com writes: << What is this "Joe Book" you are talking about? Is it the comic or what? >> yes --------------- END gijoe.v001.n728 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n729 -------------- 001 - BespinRunt@aol.com - Re: A quick question about Borovia 002 - "Julius Cooper" > sorry, I hit the enter button too soon. Yes, I'm talking about the comic. There is no other Joe book out there. usually when someone says "book", they mean the comic. sXE --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.2 --------------- From: "Julius Cooper" Subject: Re: Confirmed Vehicles Date: 28 Oct 98 05:45:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_ORCL_67572128_0r0" --=_ORCL_67572128_0r0 content-type:multipart/alternative; boundary="=_ORCL_67572128_0r1" --=_ORCL_67572128_0r1 Content-Type:text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Gang, Does anyone think it would be cherry-picking for me to ask for dibs on any of this stuff? If not, I'd like to toss my name into the hat for: >Stealth Fighter x 2 (1 MIB, 1 loose complete but no figure) The MIB one, natch... >Sky Raven x 1 (loose, painted blue, used as display but Complete) Actually, now that I think of it, the equitable way to do this would be to have a "lottery"--anyone who's interested would tell Al/Richard, and we'd have an "independent lottery." But this is just me talking... ;-) Peace, --Weasel ..no longer content with cameo appearances in others' notes... :-D ORACLEb Corporation Julius Cooper Indianapolis Staff Consultant Phone/Voicemail: 317.228.4027 Pager: 888.266.2461 Disclaimer: The opinions contained herein do not necessarily reflect those of Oracle Corporation. --=_ORCL_67572128_0r1 Content-Type:application/x-compressed-rtf Content-Transfer-Encoding:base64 PgQAAA4HAABMWkZ1cacPwv8ACgEPAhUCpAPkBesCgwBQEwNUAgBjaArAc2V07jIGAAbDAoMy A8YHEwKD5jMERhGXMSAIVQeyAoNmNBQ/FU9mNQPFAgBwhHJxEiJzdGVtAoO2NgRHFW43EScZ Q0cKwNJhBGBuZAKDOATWGSWoTWF0CHBhBdBUBgAhBQRDYXBpAZBsc90Cgzkb+xGfAoB9CoAI z+UJ2TsjYjI1GKAjzwmrHyTRAoAKgQ2xC2BuZzEMMDMUIAsDbGkxOB8N8AUQKKILVRpBczE3 mxzBJ8AsCoUKhURvB5GFAHB5AiBlIHRoC4AkayAf4CB3CGBsZBwgYivwIYAEkHJ5Lckf0GNr C4BnIAIQBcDLB4AsAG8rkHNrCoUuInhkaWIEIAIgK5Iv4GZXLAIEIBmwdQ3QPyp8SaEwcG5v dCwyECcs4F0ogGsucy6QBBFtMEBu3x0AK/ALgDMyLUAgEcAFQD0uIToqfAtGFmEp4j5TBxnA B0AsECBGaWdohRnAcgyCIHggIBIg4igXgE1JQjKAF4AjAD8zcC0RA3ALUBIAK/BidZ8FQDJQ LhA3sAhwZSkKhW5UNJE44S/hZTKAM+B0XSGALjywKnw3EGswQFLcYXYJ8DgWF4AoOVMygL8K sDQxCYAs8ApBMoB1EfD3LOAuwC+RcwtRMEA6QghQzznUOxY1vSm1QWMewAdAdGx5PEFvB+As EDTRSR8sBTBhH+AygDSCZXF1tx/hAmAr8HdBMS6RZDRifwQACoUspy6REcA+MCuQIA4iIwAC QASQeSItLeErpXdobycEID+iI3A/GbEs4CykGcBEUAqFQWzsL1ItsBHBZDKAAHBLkW5lMrFJ FAOgIguADbBwnwnwDbACMDlBSbMuIjhw7kI6UUepMLFqQGAFQC5izwdALdI8sThwOy1CLSp8 ulA3QGM8MAqFShBXN0D/EfBMRjywOoEjACfAFbEFoG8/sU8xA/A3cWMz8S6hcPtO4BzhblSQ SuIv4DSBEeCOJzJCB5BSIzotRDW9aRvhczMS8GMAQThAT+BSQUNMRQtFJ6UC0Y8ggSngGkBb snVwMReA/FwnJuBayl3FOEBav1vD2QhQcnAFsB6waQIgKTr+Mh2gW7EDMDgiY1QLVR2ia1uD EiBKLMBpQGAa0W9/TuA4AClJZLVaX2LGW+FJ/x0wBzAz4GGgKIAEIGmjY1m/OCJp0meuEvA4 QDcgYQ3Q/xrRAIAswAGQAjBiLxeAQq8bKdJk01BKsCvgL1Zvpy2wGdALcGw6OHAzKfCELjJi 4C40MDIb4NlqaVBhVqFxMThzYHGQxDY2cZA0NjEq5gQA/mMLYQeAcyI7kmWwC4Bh8d8EIFbi C3E/0S1BZVjRR3FvMlEyQAWQB5BzCsADEHn/CoZqaCNwJ5AFkFAyOXIwYd5PHPB0wCvwYXku KT0qfAUikQB90A== --=_ORCL_67572128_0r1 Content-Type:text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Gang,
 
Does anyone think it would be cherry-picking for me to ask
for dibs on any of this stuff?
 
If not, I'd like to toss my name into the hat for:
 
>Stealth Fighter x  2 (1 MIB, 1 loose complete but no figure)
The MIB one, natch...
 
>Sky Raven x  1 (loose, painted blue, used as display but Complete)
 
Actually, now that I think of it, the equitable way to do this
would be to have a "lottery"--anyone who's interested would tell
Al/Richard, and we'd have an "independent lottery."  But this
is just me talking...  ;-)
 
 
 
Peace,
--Weasel
..no longer content with cameo appearances in others' notes...  :-D
ORACLEb Corporation  Julius Cooper
Indianapolis             Staff Consultant
Phone/Voicemail:   317.228.4027    Pager:  888.266.2461
Disclaimer:  The opinions contained herein do not necessarily
reflect those of Oracle Corporation.
 

--=_ORCL_67572128_0r1-- --=_ORCL_67572128_0r0 content-type:message/rfc822 Date: 27 Oct 98 06:20:45 From:ralarcon@skyinet.net To:gijoe@lists.best.com Subject:Confirmed Vehicles Reply-to:UNX09.US.ORACLE.COM:gijoe@lists.best.com Return-Path: Received:from mailsun2.us.oracle.com by usmail05 with SMTP (SMI-8.6/37.9) id TAA13442; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:47:48 -0800 Received:from inet16.us.oracle.com by mailsun2.us.oracle.com with ESMTP (SMI-8.6/37.8) id TAA02687; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:47:46 -0800 Received:from lists1.best.com (root@lists1.best.com [206.86.8.15]) by inet16.us.oracle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10095 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:48:08 -0800 (PST) Received:(from daemon@localhost) by lists1.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.ls) id TAA23124; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:34:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id:<199810280334.TAA23124@lists1.best.com> BestServHost:lists.best.com Sender:gijoe-errors@lists.best.com Errors-To:gijoe-errors@lists.best.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type:text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding:7BIT Hi again, These are now confirmed: Detonator x 2 Interrogator x10 Battle Wagon x 1 Stealth Fighter x 2 (1 MIB, 1 loose complete but no figure) Sky Raven x 1 (loose, painted blue, used as display but Complete) Barracuda x 5 Crimson Cruiser x 3 The prices for these vehicles are not sure & are not discounted unlike the 1994 line vehicles and I assume that these are MIB. I plan to inspect them this week or the next to check their condition. Another concern is that some of them may have damages due to storage/floods but still in their boxes. Other vehicles may still show up since some of them have been there untouched since 1989. ******* ANYWAY, I would like to request to ship FIGURES ONLY for the Trial Run to make shipping easier for now but keep sending vehicles list as well to at least check for availability. I'm READY to order from the warehouse and I'll be waiting your lists from AL/Rocketeer and will keep you updated. Don't forget to CC me the want list & back-up list when you send them to AL/Rocketeer.Thanks ! Good Luck, Richard --=_ORCL_67572128_0r0-- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.3 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Confirmed Vehicles Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:27:32 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << File: Unknown (1090 bytes) DL Time (14400 bps): < 1 minute >> Before you list members start chewing on this guy, i wanna say that i don't think he sent this on purpose. I've seen emails with the 'attach feature' glitch and send some lil' POS before. --Wannabe Computer Tech --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.4 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: New Hasbro Web Site Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:45:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain When does the new website names I think "www.hasbrocollectors.com" start. An e-mail from Habro said November. Anyone else know anything about this? Also, are there any Chicago collectors? Has anyone found the 1998 Real American hero figures in Chicagoland? --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.5 --------------- From: "Julius Cooper" Subject: Re: Confirmed Vehicles Date: 28 Oct 98 06:56:37 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_ORCL_25212212_0r0" --=_ORCL_25212212_0r0 Content-Type:text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Thanks to BADSCNAME (sorry, bud, I just know you by your screen name, and your ever-changing signoffs, which--BTW--tend to leave me LMAO!) for rushing to my defense, but I just upgraded my e-mail, and there are nice little features (of the undocumented variety ;) such as transforming the original message into an attachment, which I was unaware of, prior to this last message. At any rate...see, it's working already: I'm putting in fewer cameos in light of the fact that I'm sending more messages for myself... :-D Peace, --Weasel ORACLEa Corporation Julius Cooper Indianapolis Staff Consultant Phone/Voicemail: 317.228.4027 Pager: 888.266.2461 Disclaimer: The opinions contained herein do not necessarily reflect those of Oracle Corporation. --=_ORCL_25212212_0r0 Content-Type:application/x-compressed-rtf Content-Transfer-Encoding:base64 +AMAAFgGAABMWkZ1YHK3Mf8ACgEPAhUCpAPkBesCgwBQEwNUAgBjaArAc2V07jIGAAbDAoMy A8YHEwKD5jMERhGXMSAIVQeyAoM2NARHFW41FD8VT2Y2UREncHJxEiBHCsBh6QRgbmQCgzca WxGfAoNGOATWGsVNYXQIcGENBdBUBgAFBENhcGnpAZBscwKAfQqACM8J2fI7IcIyNRgAIi8J qyMxDwKACoENsQtgbmcxMIYzFCALA2xpMTgN8A8FECcCC1UWYXMxNyASVB0QbmsEIHRvIABC QURTQ05BTRBFIChzBbByeSwQIGJ1ZCogSSBqRHVzBUBrbm8H4Hn7CGAqMHkrQgXABPEJ4QqF Wm4bYGUqIABwZCu0Zbp2BJAtHQEmIAuAZywALGlnKxAN0HMqIHdogmkdAC0tQlRXL6COdAnw LWAo8WxlYS3gAwqFB4AgTE1BTyHsKSACEAXAcirAL2Augf0o8W0roA2xCfAR8CoiBUDpKpV1 cAnAYQ2wLWAy4DkKhWUtAMADEC0kdGjfBJAxYArAMWADAGMxYCbgvwJAMJAx4DCgH2EHkSgu 8Mc2IjRAG5BvY3UHgAIwWwmACoV2CsAIkHQroDv5MdBzdR0ALTAo0RtQAID9MfFtMnM4cQWw LsALgAdA8zFBBBBhZzFgC4Ao8QBwfwqFH1ABkB0AOQIvNSqBd/s60TigYT9ANmEu8CogGuD+ aQWxKPE2MAQAMIA60AVA7TylLgqFCoVBBUAAcCugextQMBAuQ4AR8C0RIIAn9QQgdwWway5y B0Ah0DSQyHk6ICqAJ21AMDOwbnQucguAN4F3BJAKhWOdLPFvBCBGMSbgZ2gFQP04NWYA0AVA NjAfUEVjEfD/G5AucgRgNmE8pQQgMfEw5jJ5EfBsZkOBRVA6LbZEQfwKhVAwoDbwLAqFfS+g VzCgS5EKhwtkGkFzCjMS8GMAQWIgT1LwQUNMRQtFJgUC0RwBLyhAGkBQUjRQMRkgXCd/JUBP alJlUJBPX1BjCFByvnAFsB9QQGALkCepMh5A/1BRAzABkVflC1UeQlAjEiCcSnUm4CrAGTFv cASQ3yeaWVVO/1dmUIFJSZEAcP8gYAbwQPFeQ1f5WAJeclxO+xLwUJBTAZAN0BkxAIBZ0H8B kAIwVs8ZIFvNKBRZc1DCaAIgZS9WbzbhNZIlRUEzKFAuMleALjSsMDIcAF8JUDzhckVBJjho AGYwNjZmMDQ26jEKhUQEAGMLYQeAZ8L/KIA78SBwAwBhgUcQAiELcd80sTZCRjE4wCzQbwVA ZRD3NvA8wQUQbDT2Xvkh0CXw/wWQSMJHYD/iUKAbUGlgMWBdVhkuJ51B/CDxAHJw --=_ORCL_25212212_0r0 Content-Type:text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Thanks to BADSCNAME (sorry, bud, I just know you by your screen
name, and your ever-changing signoffs, which--BTW--tend to leave
me LMAO!) for rushing to my defense, but I just upgraded my
e-mail, and there are nice little features (of the undocumented
variety ;) such as transforming the original message into an
attachment, which I was unaware of, prior to this last message.
 
At any rate...see, it's working already:   I'm putting in fewer
cameos in light of the fact that I'm sending more messages for
myself...  :-D
 
 
Peace,
--Weasel
ORACLEa Corporation  Julius Cooper
Indianapolis             Staff Consultant
Phone/Voicemail:   317.228.4027    Pager:  888.266.2461
Disclaimer:  The opinions contained herein do not necessarily
reflect those of Oracle Corporation.
 

--=_ORCL_25212212_0r0-- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.6 --------------- From: Joseph Smith Subject: Look for a press release Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:25:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Don't ask me how I know, but LOOK FOR A PRESS RELEASE CONCERNING A NEW JOE COMIC. Oh, yeah, I, um think we'll be pleased with the writer as well. Joey Smith (Smitty) Knowing an answer to prayer when I see it!!!! ***************************************************** From: Joseph Smith Walk Thru the Bible Ministries Tel: 770-451-9300 (Local) 1-800-868-9300 (Inside US) Fax: 770-454-9313 E-mail Address: jsmith@walkthru.org Home Page: http://www.walkthru.org For more information via email send a blank email to: info@walkthru.org ***************************************************** --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.7 --------------- From: klacoste@bigfoot.com (Kevin LaCoste) Subject: Re: Joe big in Japan? Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 01:55:08 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I'm off to Japan at the end of the year for a month or so to visit my >parents - is Joe that big over there? > Not really. I've seen a fair bit of the larger dolls but other than key-chains I've yet to see any 3 3/4" stuff. Now Sailor Moon on the other hand... Kevin LaCoste klacoste@bigfoot.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.8 --------------- From: klacoste@bigfoot.com (Kevin LaCoste) Subject: Re: 25 Dream Team Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 01:55:20 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In response to Rottweiler's Dream TeamŠ >3 - Beach Head. Promote him to E-8 and you have the perfect "bad cop" >First Shirt. Replaces Snake Eyes as the team's "masked man". > Why is it that this guy wears a mask anyways? Is this ever addressed in the comic? Is he disfigured like Snakes or just ugly and self concious. >8 - Roadblock. The coolest of the three dedicated machine gunners and >he can cook, too. I'd love to see a figure of him in BDUs and a "kiss >the cook" apron. > What are BDUs? A military term I persume. Who is the third dedicated machine gunner? Maybe I should brush up on my latter years of Joe. Kevin LaCoste klacoste@bigfoot.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.9 --------------- From: klacoste@bigfoot.com (Kevin LaCoste) Subject: Re: 25 Dream Team Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 01:55:16 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >From a previous post by Davis, Kyle: >I've been seeing a lot of these speculative posts about who Larry Hama would >have put into a 25 man roster, and they seem to mostly agree with one >another... > >But what about US??? I mean, what would your own personal 'dream team' of >Joes look like? Not for any particularly mission efficient reasons, but >maybe just because you like these guys and think they'd work well >together... The Joes ARE the best of the best in our armed forces. A team >made up of Manglers and Eco-Warriors, led by Ice Cream Soldier should >theoretically be able to complete anything thrown at them. > I think these lists were actually personal "Dream Teams". The title was used because the thread started out by talking of how Larry Hama would have liked to keep the team around that size. As for you selections, a few comments: Dial-Tone: It seems he gets bagged on on this list but I have to agree that other than his comic/cartoon personality, I always thought he was a cool looking figure. BackBlast: Fire in the hole! Blizzard: I personally like all the arctic figures. Very cool looking. Personality wise I have no clue about these (the various snow) guys. Stalker: Everybody loves Stalker. Muskrat/Beach Head: Two of my personal favs... Quick Kick: I always thought he was pretty hokey. Did he die in the comic? What was his martial art anyway, Kung-Fu, Karate, Impersonation? Dusty: Another personal fave. Rock n' Roll: I always liked him after the issue where he's driving along in his car and gets side-swiped by a dreadnok. I think that's what happened anyways. I just remember the issue painted him in a pretty cool manner. Laid-back, beach boy thing going on there. Kevin LaCoste klacoste@bigfoot.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.10 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: 25 Dream Team Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:20:00 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/28/98 12:18:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, klacoste@bigfoot.com writes: << Did he die in the comic? >> Quick Kick bought the farm, yes. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.11 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Look for a press release Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:22:12 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/28/98 11:37:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, jsmith@walkthru.org writes: << Don't ask me how I know, but LOOK FOR A PRESS RELEASE CONCERNING A NEW JOE COMIC. Oh, yeah, I, um think we'll be pleased with the writer as well. Joey Smith (Smitty) Knowing an answer to prayer when I see it!!!! >> I think this is pretty much a no-brainer for all of us here who hear from Hama from time to time... I've been saying for quite a while that a new comic was possibly in the works... And Hama himself confirmed that much when he said the roster for the new book wasn't complete yet. So we know a new book is on its way.. does anyone want to speculate on a release date (there isn't one yet, just wondering if anyone has an opinion) Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.12 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: ATTN JULIUS COOPER Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:23:37 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 You are apparently no longer sending in plain text...that's fine with me, but *PLEASE* up the font size...I'm getting a headache from trying to read that itty-bitty stuff. And, just a general plea to all of you...no small fonts. 12 or higher, *PLEASE*...help those of us with terrible vision keep what little we have awhile longer. Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNjdTGMSNrCBK3ASDEQKa3gCgnEnr5VGH+cY4VZuAbnoyM7dVl6IAn3tU ZFsC3DD/1uEj/Dwc11Q5RaLg =1RAO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.13 --------------- From: Zzarana@aol.com Subject: Re: ATTN JULIUS COOPER Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:19:34 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh no! I can't imagine a perfect man like Adam is going blind!!!! I hope you aren't going bald too! You are so young! Ha ha I understand the whole small font thing, when you stare at a screen all day it does tend to hurt your eyes. Zz --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.14 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: 25 Dream Team Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:28:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 From: Kevin LaCoste Date: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 9:16 AM >>3 - Beach Head. Promote him to E-8 and you have >>the perfect "bad cop" First Shirt. Replaces Snake >>Eyes as the team's "masked man". >> > >Why is it that this guy wears a mask anyways? Is this >ever addressed in the comic? Is he disfigured like >Snakes or just ugly and self concious. When one storms the beachheads, either one paints ones face and other exposed skin with black makeup or one wears a mask...to avoid being seen by searchlights. >>8 - Roadblock. The coolest of the three dedicated >>machine gunners and he can cook, too. I'd love to >>see a figure of him in BDUs and a "kiss the cook" >>apron. >> >What are BDUs? A military term I persume. BDUs = Battle Dress Uniforms...known to the uninitiated frequently as "camos". Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNjdiQMSNrCBK3ASDEQILigCgwkdC8cEeyIvmB7VCzCURRutfTbgAoONX qD1guTGcYyMlbPRvTsQ2rB4v =/fXa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.15 --------------- From: ralarcon@skyinet.net Subject: JLF Confirmed Vehicles Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:33:38 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In-Reply-To: <199810260501.VAA26462@lists1.best.com> Hi again, These are now confirmed: Detonator x 2 Interrogator x10 Battle Wagon x 1 Stealth Fighter x 2 (1 MIB, 1 loose complete but no figure) Sky Raven x 1 (loose, painted blue, used as display but Complete) Barracuda x 5 Crimson Cruiser x 3 The prices for these vehicles are not sure & are not discounted unlike the 1994 line vehicles and I assume that these are MIB. I plan to inspect them this week or the next to check their condition. Another concern is that some of them may have damages due to storage/floods but still in their boxes. Other vehicles may still show up since some of them have been there untouched since 1989. ******* ANYWAY, I would like to request to ship FIGURES ONLY for the Trial Run to make shipping easier for now but keep sending vehicles list as well to at least check for availability. I'm READY to order from the warehouse and I'll be waiting your lists from AL/Rocketeer and will keep you updated. Don't forget to CC me the want list & back-up list when you send them to AL/Rocketeer. Thanks ! Good Luck, Richard --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.16 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: Joe big in Japan? Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:20:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are (were?) definetely joes in Japan, it says so on yojoe.com and I've seen a card (without figure) from Japan. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.17 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Talking Joes Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:10:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Question : I know the Talking Battle Commanders' backpacks are not removable like ordinary backpacks... My question is : Do you just have to remove a screw to take them off or is there more involved? I wanna know because I can pick up a set cheaply but I won't bother if I can't remove the backpacks... Thanks in advance for any help Tim (comes with three battle cries) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.18 --------------- From: Garnet71@webtv.net (Thomas Stoddard) Subject: Re: Talking Joes Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:40:26 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit there is quite alot involved- if you open the pack you should be able to get the guts out of it..i beliee there is a screw in there and it is just like the small screw found in all joes...good luck.. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.19 --------------- From: "man9" Subject: Re: Talking Joes Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:38:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I know the Talking Battle Commanders' backpacks >are not removable like ordinary backpacks... >My question is : Do you just have to remove a screw >to take them off or is there more involved? > >I wanna know because I can pick up a set cheaply but >I won't bother if I can't remove the backpacks... When I got my BAT Commander (think that's what he's called), I unscrewed the backpack almost immediately, since it got in the way of my playing (the guy wouldn't stand up!) and the voice became annoying very quickly. There's nothing more involved; it's very easy. Shipwreck, glad he can comment on something that he knows about! :D --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.20 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: Re: Talking Joes Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:42:14 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/28/98 6:40:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, sky15010@skynet.be writes: > Question : > > I know the Talking Battle Commanders' backpacks > are not removable like ordinary backpacks... > My question is : Do you just have to remove a screw > to take them off or is there more involved? > > I wanna know because I can pick up a set cheaply but > I won't bother if I can't remove the backpacks... > > Thanks in advance for any help > > Tim (comes with three battle cries) I believe there are 4? screws keeping the back pack together... than you have to open it and unscrew three screws from the inside and it comes off Matt --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.21 --------------- From: "man9" Subject: Re: Talking Joes Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:02:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >there is quite alot involved- if you open the pack you should be able to >get the guts out of it..i beliee there is a screw in there and it is >just like the small screw found in all joes...good luck.. Hmm ... it's been several years since I did it to mine, and I've since lost him to the depths of the garage. But it seems like it was extremely easy and obvious when I did it. I believe it's like what others said: three screws on the outside, and one holding the pack on (and internal screw). Shipwreck --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.22 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: JLA update Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:09:16 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Joes, Below is a forward of the latest news from Richard - thought I would send for your comments / input ( I don't think he'll mind ). Also, on Weasels post re: vehicles - 1) shipping on these is going to be excessive I think so maybe the costs will not be great. 2) as for a lottery, unless there are quite a few persons ' fighting' over them ( and there is not so far ) I do not see this as needed - I think that most list members are willing to let the ' first' come guys have as they come in , as long as one ( or more ) don't get greedy with the ' choice' items. Let me know if you have any other ideas on this. Keep info / orders coming to me as wanted ( see below note first - things might still change but this is how it looks right now ). Hopefully we can get this together yet. AL / rocketeer ------Begin forward message------------------------- Hi again, I just wanted to let you know something. I finally found the warehouse address and it's 4 hours away from my place. I don't have a problem going there but carting away 100 figures and a few vehicles might be a lil too optimistic and I don't have a car. I'll have to backpack my way there, package it and still bring the box to my nearest fedex, 2 hours away. (I live in the outlying province) I've calculated the handling costs and, so that I wouldn't have to foot the travelling expenses and for my sis' trouble to re-mail it from Brunei, I have to add $1.50 to each figure. LMK if it's feasible. I did a little computation based on a 60 figure batch. here goes: $ 2 figure cost + $ 1.50 handling, packaging (Phils. & Brunei) == $ 3.50 price per figure with handling costs x60 pieces == $ 210 + $ 98 fedex + $ 50 Reg'd Mail (This is a Gross Over Estimation) == $ 358 = Total Batch Cost divided by 60 figures = US$5.97 per figure with shipping costs Obviously, this is very over estimated, but I think it represent the MAximum Cost. It should be cheaper since there are actually More figures and Lower Registered Mail Rates (I hope) from Brunei. At least, no custom taxes. Dzirhan is luckier because reg'd mail to malaysia from Brunei is very cheap. They're practically neighbours! ;) I'm still working on the vehicles. The 1994 Vehicles I earlier posted with prices are available but I'm still asking for a discount. The Older Pre-1994 Vehicles I posted lately might not be as cheap since they are not part of the sale items here. They might have remained untouched had I not ask. I'll update you on that. ANyway, Let me know what you & the other list members think about this before finalising the whole batch. I'll post a picture of the joes when I can, to prove I'm not ripping anyone off. ------End forward message--------------------------- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.23 --------------- From: Dawn Greider Subject: NEED HELP! (non-Joe) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:31:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I really, really need to find someone to tape this Friday's episode of "The Uncle Floyd Show". It's only broadcast in New York and New Jersey, so if there's someone out there who could help me PLEASE LMK! I will gladly pay for the blank tape, shipping, and some extra cash for helping me out. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!! -Hurricane (desperate Misfits fan) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.24 --------------- From: Calvin Woo Subject: Re: Talking Joes Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:47:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810282314.PAA21642@lists1.best.com> Take off four screws that put the two halves of backpack together. Then there are three screws from the inside that screw the backpack onto the figure. (there are only two screws for Stalker) The only problem is taht there is a flat spot on the back without any detail and you see the holes. Calvin On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Timmer Auto wrote: > Question : > > I know the Talking Battle Commanders' backpacks > are not removable like ordinary backpacks... > My question is : Do you just have to remove a screw > to take them off or is there more involved? > > I wanna know because I can pick up a set cheaply but > I won't bother if I can't remove the backpacks... > > Thanks in advance for any help > > Tim (comes with three battle cries) > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.25 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: ATTN JULIUS COOPER Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 22:34:52 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 From: Zzarana@aol.com Date: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 10:55 AM >Oh no! I can't imagine a perfect man like Adam >is going blind!!!! It's not like it's happening soon...my vision is degenerating year by year, but it's finally slowed down to very minor degeneration each year. >I hope you aren't going bald too! You are so young! I don't know about bald, but the men in my family develop widow's peaks at an early age...my 30-year old brother already has a fairly pronounced one, and I can see mine developing already... >Ha ha I understand the whole small font thing, when >you stare at a screen all day it does tend to hurt your >eyes. I don't do it all day, but it still bothers me... Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNjgMi8SNrCBK3ASDEQLKOgCg3qb+Mc1XKjnKvdUdwJ7yDEC8JPQAn0P+ KLUaGnbuHvMOieQJbz/Zf08d =rfmz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.26 --------------- From: ralarcon@skyinet.net Subject: update Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:18:05 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In-Reply-To: <199810281138.DAA10921@lists1.best.com> Hi again, sorry to take up list space ;( I got your wants from AL and I count 100+ figures depending on availability. I'm still confirming more vehicles. I'll be opening a US$ account with an American bank in the next few weeks to make it easier to use bank transfers while I'm confirming more Joe & Transformers stuff. I will try to post a picture when I inspect the storage facility this Saturday, I hope, since it is very far from my place. 4 Hours away, in fact. It just occurred to me, I may have to hire a cab to bring all those stuff :( and still have to bring the box to fedex :( Good Luck, Richard --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.27 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: Talking Joes Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:14:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for all the help,people, It's highly appreciated. Tim (YOJOE, EAT LEAD COBRA, MY SPIDEY SENCE IS TINGLING...,uh wait a minute...) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.28 --------------- From: Russ Humphress Subject: Re: Confirmed Vehichles Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 03:22:52 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm sorry, I've been out of the loop for a few weeks. For the benifit of myself and anyone else out there: What's this about? Did someone find a stash of Joes? And How do we order, Are we doing highest bidder or what (since there are presumably limited quantities based on the below info) Just don't want to miss this if I can get my hands on some joes. :) (PS, does any one have Rommel's email address, I seem to have lost it.) Thanks, Russ Humphress Codename: Sparks > Subject: Confirmed Vehicles > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:20:45 +0800 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > > Hi again, > These are now confirmed: > > Detonator x 2 > Interrogator x10 > Battle Wagon x 1 > Stealth Fighter x 2 (1 MIB, 1 loose complete but no figure) > Sky Raven x 1 (loose, painted blue, used as display but Complete) > Barracuda x 5 > Crimson Cruiser x 3 > > The prices for these vehicles are not sure & are not discounted unlike the 1994 > line vehicles and I assume that these are MIB. I plan to inspect them this week > or the next to check their condition. Another concern is that some of them > may have damages due to storage/floods but still in their boxes. Other vehicles > may still show up since some of them have been there untouched since 1989. > ******* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jaegan, aka Russell D. Humphress -|- jaegan@ms.uky.edu http://www.ms.uky.edu/~jaegan | jaegan@earthling.net Bill: You despise Windows, don't you? Steve: If I even considered using it, I probably would. ---- ICQ# 3844642 ----------------------------------------------- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n729.29 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: A Request from Rod Hannah Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 06:54:58 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since Rod is no longer on this mailing list, he's asked me to have all you guys stop over at his website: Zartan's Domain, for some really incredible news about the GIJoe comic. http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~rwh/index.html I know Larry's been saying stuff to us for a while, but Rod did get him to loosen his tongue, and finally we know the truth... Check it Out NOW!!!! Straight-EDge --------------- END gijoe.v001.n729 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n730 -------------- 001 - "Daniel C. Carber" Subject: Re: Talking Joes Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 07:24:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810290006.QAA24608@lists1.best.com> >Hmm ... it's been several years since I did it to mine, and I've since lost >him to the depths of the garage. But it seems like it was extremely easy >and obvious when I did it. I believe it's like what others said: three >screws on the outside, and one holding the pack on (and internal screw). There are 4 small screws holding the two pieces of the pack together, these are visible when you first pick up the figure. Then, once you get the two pieces of the pack apart, there are 3 similiar screws holding the pack onto the figure, and these screws form a triangle. Unscrew these and the pack is off. The only bummer is that the 'back' of the figure is flat, but at least you'll have a useful figure. I did this to my talking stalker (with the stupid expression on his face) and it went fine. The pack's intact, and I can put it back on at any given time. dan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Daniel C. Carber dcarber@stonehill.edu Lead Systems Administrator 508-565-1524 Department of Academic Technology Resources Stonehill College North Easton, MA 02357-4018 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.2 --------------- From: "DeVoe, Gary (DEVOEGW)" Subject: RE: A Request from Rod Hannah Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:07:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: BespinRunt@aol.com [SMTP:BespinRunt@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 6:55 AM To: gijoe@lists.best.com Subject: A Request from Rod Hannah Since Rod is no longer on this mailing list, he's asked me to have all you guys stop over at his website: Zartan's Domain, for some really incredible news about the GIJoe comic. http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~rwh/index.html I know Larry's been saying stuff to us for a while, but Rod did get him to loosen his tongue, and finally we know the truth... -----------------> ...And we ALL know what knowing is... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.3 --------------- From: Joseph Smith Subject: Joe Comic Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:33:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Don't ask me how I know, but LOOK FOR A PRESS RELEASE CONCERNING A NEW JOE COMIC. Oh, yeah, I, um think we'll be pleased with the writer as well. Joey Smith (Smitty) Knowing an answer to prayer when I see it!!!! >> I think this is pretty much a no-brainer for all of us here who hear from Hama from time to time... I've been saying for quite a while that a new comic was possibly in the works... And Hama himself confirmed that much when he said the roster for the new book wasn't complete yet. So we know a new book is on its way.. does anyone want to speculate on a release date (there isn't one yet, just wondering if anyone has an opinion) Straight-Edge Ok, so I didn't get the scoop. I thought it was news. But, hey, it doesn't make me less excited at the prospect. Mr. Hama writing Joe? Little to no binders I hope? Man, I've been waiting for this. I don't even read comics now, but I'd read this. I wonder what he has in mind for our favorite men and women in uniform. Hopefully, he won't have to include goofy stuff from Kenner, either. It boggles the mind to contemplate what Mr. Hama might come up with. I hope this isn't taken wrong, but I hope we get a fair dose of deaths and characters leaving the team. This in only realistic in a military unit. It makes me care for the characters so much more when I know they are vulnerable. Knowing that with the opening of each issue, characters can die really heightens the interest. This is so like the speculation about the new JLA roster. Any speculations, including the pared down roster? So far we got: 1)Snake Eyes 2)Stormshadow 3)Scarlet 4)Stalker 5)Hawk 6)Gung Ho 7)Roadblock Here are my revised predictions: 8) Wild Bill 9) Spirit 10)Low-Light 11)Dusty 12)Mainframe 13)Torpedo 14)Flint 15)Lady Jaye 16)Airtight 17)Hit-N-Run 18)Footloose 19)Falcon 20)Ace 21)Covergirl 22)Cutter 23)Iceberg 24)Mutt & Junkyard 25)Ripcord Ok, Smitty over and out! Joey Smith Don't ask me how I know, but LOOK FOR A PRESS RELEASE CONCERNING A NEW JOE COMIC. Oh, yeah, I, um think we'll be pleased with the writer as well. Joey Smith (Smitty) Knowing an answer to prayer when I see it!!!! >> I think this is pretty much a no-brainer for all of us here who hear from Hama from time to time... I've been saying for quite a while that a new comic was possibly in the works... And Hama himself confirmed that much when he said the roster for the new book wasn't complete yet. So we know a new book is on its way.. does anyone want to speculate on a release date (there isn't one yet, just wondering if anyone has an opinion) Straight-Edge ***************************************************** From: Joseph Smith Walk Thru the Bible Ministries Tel: 770-451-9300 (Local) 1-800-868-9300 (Inside US) Fax: 770-454-9313 E-mail Address: jsmith@walkthru.org Home Page: http://www.walkthru.org For more information via email send a blank email to: info@walkthru.org ***************************************************** --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.4 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: RE: A Request from Rod Hannah Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:40:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I have a problem...I am not able to read this interview....lots of X's and O's all over it. Am I missing something....or can someone else run the interview in a legible format? I like the Zartan page....it's been set up in my Favorites in my browser for weeks now. > ---------- > From: BespinRunt@aol.com[SMTP:BespinRunt@aol.com] > Reply To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 5:54 AM > To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Subject: A Request from Rod Hannah > > Since Rod is no longer on this mailing list, he's asked me to have all you > guys stop over at his website: Zartan's Domain, for some really incredible > news about the GIJoe comic. > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~rwh/index.html > > I know Larry's been saying stuff to us for a while, but Rod did get him to > loosen his tongue, and finally we know the truth... Check it Out NOW!!!! > > Straight-EDge > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.5 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: A Request from Rod Hannah Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:46:59 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << -----------------> ...And we ALL know what knowing is.. >> .....IT'S HALF THE FREAKIN' BATTLE, DUDE!!!!! IT'S SO $@#&% GOOD TO BE A GEEK THESE DAYS!!!! NEW STAR WARS, NEW GIJOE....I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO PRAY FOR!!! WOO FREAKIN' HOOOOO!!! Part of me wishes Marvel picked it up, but hey, Marvel's going the way of WEG and it would suck to leave the Joe license hanging like that. Now everyone, buy two copies of each issue and maybe Bench Press will stay around for a while ;) --Dorkman --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.6 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: Zartan's Domain Larry Hama Interview Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:50:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Never mind...I just highlighted the text, copied and pasted it into a Microsoft Word document for my personal use. Don't worry, I would never reprint it or post it without the permission of Zartan's Domain. If I did have that permission though, I might... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.7 --------------- From: GITrekker@aol.com Subject: Re: New Hasbro Web Site Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:06:17 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <> Darned if I know, but there's a full page ad for it in the newest Tomart's, but when I tried to call it up, it didn't work. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.8 --------------- From: "DeVoe, Gary (DEVOEGW)" Subject: Geeks Anonymous Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:16:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com [SMTP:BADSCNAME@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 9:47 AM To: gijoe@lists.best.com Subject: Re: A Request from Rod Hannah << -----------------> ...And we ALL know what knowing is.. >> .....IT'S HALF THE FREAKIN' BATTLE, DUDE!!!!! IT'S SO $@#&% GOOD TO BE A GEEK THESE DAYS!!!! NEW STAR WARS, NEW GIJOE....I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO PRAY FOR!!! WOO FREAKIN' HOOOOO!!! An individual nervously steps up to a microphone at a podium in a small, crowded room. Sounds of stifled coughing in the background...a subtle whine of feedback... The individual at the podium speaks: "Hi. My name is Gary, and I collect G.I.Joe..." The audience responds in unison: "Hi Gary." -Triage --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.9 --------------- From: Zzarana@aol.com Subject: Re: A Request from Rod Hannah Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:20:42 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah hun He has the Xoom Logo all over the page. I will talk to him, and see if He can change it. ~Zz --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.10 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: RE: New Hasbro Web Site Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:40:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Yup, and I received an e-mail from Hasbro concerning a revamped Joe site in November.... > ---------- > From: GITrekker@aol.com[SMTP:GITrekker@aol.com] > Reply To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 9:06 AM > To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Subject: Re: New Hasbro Web Site > > < start.>> > > Darned if I know, but there's a full page ad for it in the newest > Tomart's, > but when I tried to call it up, it didn't work. > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.11 --------------- From: Zzarana@aol.com Subject: Re: Geeks Anonymous Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:41:46 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/29/98 10:36:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, DEVOEGW@UCMAIL.UC.EDU writes: << "Hi. My name is Gary, and I collect G.I.Joe..." The audience responds in unison: "Hi Gary." -Triage >> The psychiatrist at the side of the stage gently urges Gary, "Please Gary, tell us why you are here, there is nothing to be a shamed of......" ~Zz --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.12 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: A Request from Rod Hannah Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:44:56 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/29/98 11:13:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, BADSCNAME@aol.com writes: << Part of me wishes Marvel picked it up, but hey, Marvel's going the way of WEG and it would suck to leave the Joe license hanging like that. Now everyone, buy two copies of each issue and maybe Bench Press will stay around for a while ;) >> Also, if anyone out there is a comic book fan, start ordering their other titles ("Warriors Way", and coming Soon "Ultra Violet"...) This is our new favorite comic company, guys... we need to support it... Me? I've already picked up the first two issues of WW.. pretty damn good... Bench Press Studios The newest name in the GIJoe family Straight-Edge... thankful he can finally plug these guys. They're really cool, and have a lot of talent... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.13 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: More cool comic news! Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:49:07 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I just got back from a conversation with Benny Powell of Bench Press (great guy... wants to kiss my gf.. LOL.. ok, j/k) anyway... he showed me a little tid-bit of something I know you Transformers fans will be interested in... Go here: 4-Color Review http://4colorreview.simplenet.com/ in case the hyperlink doesnt come out.. Keep checking out this websie, as the Joe comic will be announced there too. The press release for the Joe book will be out possibly today, or in the next few days... Oh, yeah, there will be two books. Thats right! Two GIJoe Comic Books, one coming out in April, and another a few months later! Fantastic, huh? Keep on keeping on.. Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.14 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Re: A Request from Rod Hannah Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:07:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---BADSCNAME@aol.com wrote: > > << -----------------> ...And we ALL know what knowing is.. >> > > .....IT'S HALF THE FREAKIN' BATTLE, DUDE!!!!! IT'S SO $@#&% GOOD TO BE A GEEK > THESE DAYS!!!! NEW STAR WARS, NEW GIJOE....I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO PRAY FOR!!! I hate to admit it, but I know just how you feel! It seems like George Lucas and Hasbro waited for me to make some websites and then decided to come back! (I'm kidding, of course...) JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.15 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: A Real American Hero Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:14:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I thought someone should mention that in the midst of our new comic excitement, the space shuttle just took off carrying A Real American Hero, John Glenn. You guys out of the USA could call him an International Hero, I suppose... :) JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.16 --------------- From: "mrsmiley!" Subject: Re: New Hasbro Web Site Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:35:27 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GITrekker@aol.com wrote on Thursday October 29, 1998 at 7:31am: ><> > I just checked the sight and it said it would go online on the tenth of November. Mr. Smile.... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.17 --------------- From: Grendel346@aol.com Subject: Re: Talking Joes Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:52:46 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/29/98 3:07:59 AM !!!First Boot!!!, calvinw@vcn.bc.ca writes: << Take off four screws that put the two halves of backpack together. Then there are three screws from the inside that screw the backpack onto the figure. (there are only two screws for Stalker) The only problem is taht there is a flat spot on the back without any detail and you see the holes. Calvin On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Timmer Auto wrote: > Question : > > I know the Talking Battle Commanders' backpacks > are not removable like ordinary backpacks... > My question is : Do you just have to remove a screw > to take them off or is there more involved? > > I wanna know because I can pick up a set cheaply but > I won't bother if I can't remove the backpacks... > > Thanks in advance for any help > > Tim (comes with three battle cries) > >> I put a cape on my Cobra Commander, that helped on that figure, I just kind of lived with the rest. grendel (finally back on line) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.18 --------------- From: Adam Casey Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:00:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810292016.MAA08774@lists1.best.com> > You guys out of the USA could call him an International Hero, I > suppose... :) 'cept the Russians, to who I say "nah-nah na boo-boo!" --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.19 --------------- From: "mrsmiley!" Subject: Ramifications? Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:29:06 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just found out about the new GIJOE (and Transformers) Comics Bench Mark Press is planning, and I find myself wondering what this signifies for the toy lines. On the one hand, it seems to me that Hasbro may be planning relaunches of the toys to coincide with this. With all that free advertising, it would probably make sense to do so. This is the best case scenario, and would make for a return of happy days. On the other hand, the fact that they've inked a deal with a virtually unknown comic company (as opposed to say, Image, Darkhorse, or Marvel) could mean that nobody else wanted it and that Hasbro really couldn't care less about the new promotion, especially considering the new SW film is on the way. Also, look at how many new independent comic publishers go under in the first couple of years. What happens if Bench Mark goes under, and takes Joe with it? In this situation, Hasbro and the other comic companies could give up on the license entirely, seeing as it would be the third Joe comic to be canceled this decade. And, oh yeah, we could probably forget about the new toys. Will Hasbro get involved? Big question. The commercials they produced for Marvel sold a lotta books, which helped them sell a lotta toys, which helped them sell a lot more books, and so on. I think that Hasbro's direct involvement is necessary (at least in the form of new toys and toy commercials, even if they don't produce commercials explicitely for the comic book) to obtain those kiddie dollars. And let's face it, those kid's cash is what will breathe life into the enterprise. Without Hasbro's support, Bench Mark's principle audience is us, the die-hard fans, and whatever comic fans they can lure away from Spider-man. Are there enough of us to keep it profitable? Another question, will the new Joe book see newstand Distribution? Unless I'm mistaken, all the previous series had this, and it was necessary to attract the widest audience. I seriously doubt that Marvel could have sold so many books in the eighties if their only outlet was comic stores and mail order. I'm looking forward to the new books (with which I'm sure Mr. Hama will not dissapoint us), but this could be a critical point for GI Joe. A success could mean a return to greatness; if not, we may see RAH slip further into the Limbo in which it has existed for the last few years. As fans, I suggest two things: A) Cross your fingers, natch, and B)Preorder your books--don't just wait for them to show up on the stands. Comics are printed based on the levels of preorders filtered back from comics shops and mail-order houses to the distributer and ultimately to the publisher. Healthy preorders keep many books alive in the very shaky comics market. .... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.20 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:08:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nope, I'd call him an American hero. I saw the shuttle launch live on CNN. The Discovery has already been launched about 25 times they said. I hear they are building a new type shuttle and from what I've seen,it looks kinda like the Defiant. (the gijoe one,not the Star Trek one) Can anybody confirm/deny this? BTW with the Defiant I mean the shuttle part,not the booster,so it also looks like the Crusader I guess. Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.21 --------------- From: "Sigi Goode (The Funk Phenomenon)" Subject: Re: Geeks Anonymous Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:49:59 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810291544.HAA10017@lists1.best.com> At 10:41 29/10/98 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 10/29/98 10:36:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, >DEVOEGW@UCMAIL.UC.EDU writes: > >"Hi. My name is Gary, and I collect G.I.Joe..." > > The audience responds in unison: > > "Hi Gary." > > > > -Triage Yeah! And then the girls go WILD!!!! Sigi ---------- http://sigi.home.ml.org Information Systems Lecturer Commerce Department Australian National University, Canberra, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.22 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:46:14 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/29/98 8:55:53 PM !!!First Boot!!!, jmmcfadd@yahoo.com writes: << I thought someone should mention that in the midst of our new comic excitement, the space shuttle just took off carrying A Real American Hero, John Glenn. >> CODENAME - CRUSTY Just kidding! --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.23 --------------- From: Adam Casey Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:15:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810292248.OAA05930@lists1.best.com> > << I thought someone should mention that in the midst of our new comic > excitement, the space shuttle just took off carrying A Real American > Hero, John Glenn. >> > > CODENAME - CRUSTY Actually, it's being called Mission:Medimucil. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.24 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Ramifications? Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:39:05 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/29/98 5:52:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, mrsmiley!@goplay.com writes: << I just found out about the new GIJOE (and Transformers) Comics Bench Mark Press is planning, and I find myself wondering what this signifies for the toy lines. On the one hand, it seems to me that Hasbro may be planning relaunches of the toys to coincide with this. With all that free advertising, it would probably make sense to do so. This is the best case scenario, and would make for a return of happy days. Ok, first off, Thomas Wheeler has said that there are absolutely no GIJoe 3 3/4 inchers on the schedule for 1999, or 2000. On the other hand, Rod Hannah has announced that there is a new "GIJoe: 2000" line that he's been told about, and deals with absolutely no old characters ... all new ones, like Extreme. So the new comics (Which are based on the Real American hero mythos dont seem to have any toy tie in at all, unless Hasbro springs a huge suprise on us. >>On the other hand, the fact that they've inked a deal with a virtually unknown comic company (as opposed to say, Image, Darkhorse, or Marvel) could mean that nobody else wanted it and that Hasbro really couldn't care less about the new promotion, especially considering the new SW film is on the way. << The company is virtually unknown because it is brand new... they've only published one series, "Warrors Way"; but they are ex-Marvel employees, so I'm assuming that's how they landed the contract. >> Also, look at how many new independent comic publishers go under in the first couple of years. What happens if Bench Mark goes under, and takes Joe with it? In this situation, Hasbro and the other comic companies could give up on the license entirely, seeing as it would be the third Joe comic to be canceled this decade. And, oh yeah, we could probably forget about the new toys.<< Firstly, Its "Bench Press Studios" Secondly, I am more than sure these will be smaller run books... not expected to sell as much as say X-Men. I think its wholly unrealistic to think a GIJoe book could ever sell on that level again. >>Will Hasbro get involved? Big question. The commercials they produced for Marvel sold a lotta books, which helped them sell a lotta toys, which helped them sell a lot more books, and so on. I think that Hasbro's direct involvement is necessary (at least in the form of new toys and toy commercials, even if they don't produce commercials explicitely for the comic book) to obtain those kiddie dollars. And let's face it, those kid's cash is what will breathe life into the enterprise. Without Hasbro's support, Bench Mark's principle audience is us, the die-hard fans, and whatever comic fans they can lure away from Spider-man. Are there enough of us to keep it profitable?<< I think so. I dont think the book is an advertising machine like the old one was. I believe it is basically a book to continue the story of some great characters who make up the very best of what GIJoe is. This is aseries fo the fans... and thats obvious because Larry is *choosing* a cast... that means the cast is not based on toys... and if a RAH toyline follows, it'll be the first time in history that a GIJoe toy has followed completly off another medium. >>Another question, will the new Joe book see newstand Distribution? Unless I'm mistaken, all the previous series had this, and it was necessary to attract the widest audience. I seriously doubt that Marvel could have sold so many books in the eighties if their only outlet was comic stores and mail order.<< So far, the only place to by Bench Press Studio's Warrors Way is in comic stores, and possibly at some book stores like Barnes and Nobles... its not likely this book will see such wide distibution... maybe in TRU ailses...with the rest of the bagged comics... >>I'm looking forward to the new books (with which I'm sure Mr. Hama will not dissapoint us), but this could be a critical point for GI Joe. A success could mean a return to greatness; if not, we may see RAH slip further into the Limbo in which it has existed for the last few years.<< I dont think a success with this book will signal anything but a kick ass read, and a continuation with one of the most solid, and entertaining storylines in comics history. >>As fans, I suggest two things: A) Cross your fingers, natch, and B)Preorder your books--don't just wait for them to show up on the stands. Comics are printed based on the levels of preorders filtered back from comics shops and mail-order houses to the distributer and ultimately to the publisher. Healthy preorders keep many books alive in the very shaky comics market. >> I suggest everyone order two copies at least... plus pick up the Transformers titles.. and try to order Ultra-Violet from your local comic shop... since Warriors Way is already past ordering... Aside from that... lets not take this book too seriously. I believe it is meant to be a great book... a book we all deserve as die-hard Joe fans... and perhaps it's existance *will* increase desire for more toys... but for now.. lets just enjoy the suspense.. and the read! Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.25 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:55:47 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << 'cept the Russians, to who I say "nah-nah na boo-boo!" >> ......goooood-bye! --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.26 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Ramifications? Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:21:14 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What a worrier ;) I'll trust for everything to fall into place the way it was meant to be. If the comic has a short run, i'll be looking to collect every one and stuff them in a binder. In contrast, i may never get every single one of the old books. In my merry manic manner, I simply mean to say it's all a matter of perceptive. At least with ol' reliable Larry Hama at the helm we won't be insulted by crap like "GIJoe: Heroes Reborn Guest-starring Ghost Rider!". With the other ol' reliable Star Wars on it's way to sink Titanic, Hasbro will really have their work cut out for them. But hey, ain't Hasbro part of Kenner now anyway? << B)Preorder your books--don't just wait for them to show up on the stands. Comics are printed based on the levels of preorders filtered back from comics shops and mail-order houses to the distributor and ultimately to the publisher. Healthy preorders keep many books alive in the very shaky comics market. >> Ya know what, i believe i will do this. As will you all. This I command. --Cobra Emperor Reborn "The power to create the largest passenger liner on the planet is insignificant to the power of The Force." god i gotta get out more... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.27 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:29:55 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Nope, I'd call him an American hero. I saw the shuttle launch live on CNN. The Discovery has already been launched about 25 times they said. I hear they are building a new type shuttle and from what I've seen,it looks kinda like the Defiant. (the gijoe one,not the Star Trek one) Can anybody confirm/deny this? BTW with the Defiant I mean the shuttle part,not the booster,so it also looks like the Crusader I guess. Tim >> Technology like the Internet is really taking off and starting to affect everyday life like people have been dreaming about for the last 40 years or so. This is shaping up to be an exciting time for all of us humans around the world. That is, of course, unless Clinton takes the movie 'Wag the Dog' too seriously and gets us all blown up D= --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.28 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Ramifications? Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:33:25 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << unless Hasbro springs a huge suprise on us. >> &@$% i hope so... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.29 --------------- From: DrHarmoney@aol.com Subject: The Action Hour is Back Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:33:40 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit THE ACTION HOUR IS BACK!!! After a great deal of personal and technical difficulty, the award winning page, The Action Hour is back up and running with a brand new episode. Episode7: Everything Changes. The address is www.geocities.com/Area51/Stargate/5819 Check it out and tell me what you think. You may even want to stop by and leave a message on my message board. It’s a special episode dedicated to those who want to imitate greatness. =) Take Care -Ray --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n730.30 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:36:25 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Actually, it's being called Mission:Medimucil. >> crrrrraaaaaaap.....iiiiiin...sssspaaaaaaaaace.....! --Commander Mort --------------- END gijoe.v001.n730 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n731 -------------- 001 - James McFadden - Re: Ramifications? 012 - "Robert Culpepper" Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:22:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >I hear they are building a new type shuttle and >from what I've seen,it looks kinda like the Defiant. >(the gijoe one,not the Star Trek one) >Can anybody confirm/deny this? I can confirm it. A few months back, I recall seeing a big, two-page ad in TIME magazine for some big aerospace company like Lockheed. The shuttle is definitely similar to the Defiant. My guess is they had that shape/design around for a while. We know that some of the Joe vehicles were based on prototypes or design concepts. BTW, that new shuttle wouldn't need the booster rockets and would be even more like a real "spaceship" kind of shuttle. A "on-its-own" craft. Later. JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.2 --------------- From: Rod Pellegrini Subject: Talking CC Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:59:57 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Grendel wrote: <> I have a suggestion here. I have always wanted to do it myself, but have never found the time. Why not remove the talking Cobra Commander's flat back and replace it with the Battle Corps Cobra Commander's back (You know, the one that was the same uniform, but black and silver instead of blue and yellow)? I think it would match perfectly. As for the color, if you were lucky enough to get some paint that was the same shade or very similar... Just an idea, Rockhammer KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // "ROCK CHALK JAYHAWKS" KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU ////////////////////////////////////////// KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Rod A. Pellegrini KKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Jayhawks rule!!!!! KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // rodpelle@falcon.cc.ukans.edu KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // Live long and prosper KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // May the force be with you --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.3 --------------- From: Calvin Woo Subject: Re: Talking Joes Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:46:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810292054.MAA08137@lists1.best.com> > << > Take off four screws that put the two halves of backpack together. Then > there are three screws from the inside that screw the backpack onto the > figure. (there are only two screws for Stalker) The only problem is taht > there is a flat spot on the back without any detail and you see the holes. > > Calvin > > On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Timmer Auto wrote: > > > Question : > > > > I know the Talking Battle Commanders' backpacks > > are not removable like ordinary backpacks... > > My question is : Do you just have to remove a screw > > to take them off or is there more involved? > > > > I wanna know because I can pick up a set cheaply but > > I won't bother if I can't remove the backpacks... > > > > Thanks in advance for any help > > > > Tim (comes with three battle cries) > > >> > I put a cape on my Cobra Commander, that helped on that figure, I just kind of > lived with the rest. > > grendel (finally back on line) > Yeah, I used Dr. Mindbender's and painted in the straps for Hawk and Stalker and then just stuck them in the Mobile Command Center. Calvin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.4 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Re: Ramifications? Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:13:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>On the other hand, the fact that they've inked a deal with a virtually unknown comic company (as opposed to say, Image, Darkhorse, or Marvel) could mean that nobody else wanted it and that Hasbro really couldn't care less about the new promotion, especially considering the new SW film is on the way. << >The company is virtually unknown because it is brand new... they've only published one series, "Warrors Way"; but they are ex-Marvel employees, so I'm assuming that's how they landed the contract.< I have to agree here. I remember a time when Image was the brand new, unknown company. It was several years ago, but when Image and Todd McFarlane were staring up their companies, some thought it was a gamble despite the fact that the people were all old employees of Marvel and DC. Even Dark Horse was new a while back. Remember that the industry was dominated much more in the past by Marvel and DC. Maybe Hasbro just liked something they saw in this new company. Recently, Marvel has cut back their series considerably due to their financial troubles, focusing mostly on the biggest of their comics. They may consider G.I. Joe to be to risky for their trimmed down comic book line. I noticed on their web site that the company includes Chip Wallace and Chi. They both not only worked for Marvel, but both worked on the later issues of G.I. Joe. Don't worry guys (and gals), even if the series doesn't make it to 155 issues, at least we'll have some new stories from Larry Hama! JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.5 --------------- From: "Clayton Pearce" Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 21:11:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BDCD48.474FE680" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BDCD48.474FE680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I hear they are building a new type shuttle and > from what I've seen,it looks kinda like the Defiant. > (the gijoe one,not the Star Trek one) > Can anybody confirm/deny this? > Yes, this is true. The Space craft is called the "VentureStar" as is being developed by Lockheed Martin. It should reduce the cost of lauching ten fold. 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> I hear they are building a new = type shuttle and
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Yes, this is true.  The = Space craft is called the "VentureStar" as is being developed = by Lockheed Martin.  It should reduce the cost of lauching ten = fold.  I have a pictureof it I could scan if any one wants to see = it.

------=_NextPart_000_01BDCD48.474FE680-- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.6 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:09:47 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << I have a picture of it I could scan if any one wants to see it. >> Heck yeah! Maybe someone should plaster it up on their Joe page? --Plasterererer --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.7 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:32:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:14 PM 10/29/98 -0800, you wrote: > >I thought someone should mention that in the midst of our new comic >excitement, the space shuttle just took off carrying A Real American >Hero, John Glenn. > >You guys out of the USA could call him an International Hero, I >suppose... :) I dunno about him being an international hero, Yury Gagarin from the good old USSR was the fist man in space, Glenn is only second best I'm afraid. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.8 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Hama's OTHER 25 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:32:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I go away for a few days and I come back to a whole bunch of messages about pending press releases and an interview (Thanks for posting that SE, it was VERY INTERESTING). Anyhow forget about 25 joe team members, who do you think will be the Cobras that make it? Here's a few of my guesses in no particular order: CC Destro Baroness Zartan Firefly Mindbender That's about all that I can think of including. The twins are a possibility but I remember reading somewhere that Hama didn't like them. I also expect to see a revamped series of Vipers. They'd have some cooler (non neon) new uniforms but retain their specialties. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.9 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Lifeline question Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:32:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:14 AM 10/27/98 -0800, you wrote: >To clarify all of this (if Kyle hasn't done so already), according to >my brother Brian (SSgt. Brian L. Bernay, full-time Medic/ Medical >Admin NCO in the Army National Guard), medics get a choice: they can >either wear the Red Cross brassard on their uniform and go unarmed or >don't wear it and go armed...most choose to not wear it and go armed. >I guess Doc and Lifeline would be the exceptions. So we need a Joe >medic who, like my brother, goes without the Red Cross and is also >fully trained and good with weapons! So does that mean your brother would be "fair game" in a war and a Red Crosser would be considered a neutral there to help only the wounded? -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.10 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Ramifications? Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:32:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:21 PM 10/29/98 EST, you wrote: >What a worrier ;) I'll trust for everything to fall into place the way it was >meant to be. >If the comic has a short run, i'll be looking to collect every one and stuff >them in a binder. In contrast, i may never get every single one of the old >books. In my merry manic manner, I simply mean to say it's all a matter of >perceptive. Hell if it only last 12 issues, at least there will be some new stories to read, buying two of each is not a bad idea. The collector in me will be happy with a mint copy and the kid in me will have an issue that I can fold crease and otherwise destroy like I did when I first got #5. >At least with ol' reliable Larry Hama at the helm we won't be insulted by crap >like "GIJoe: Heroes Reborn Guest-starring Ghost Rider!". With the other ol' >reliable Star Wars on it's way to sink Titanic, Hasbro will really have their >work cut out for them. But hey, ain't Hasbro part of Kenner now anyway? If former Joe fans realize the writer is the same, I think the book could be a success lasting years. GI Joe still has a following beyond us internet geeks and there are always those guys who buy #1 of every new title that comes out, maybe they'll read it and like what they see. But the fact there is no toy tie in means that these people think that they can make a good comic book and not a toy commerical. Hey, anyone think the new comic will continue the old letter page? When the old Comico series Grendel was picked up by Dark Horse as Grendel Tales years after its run ended. They continued with the letters sent for the last few issues of the comico series. If any of those old Joe letters were kept it be great to have the new letter page pick up with unprinted letters about last few marvels joes. That is IF anyone kept them. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.11 --------------- From: Eugene Subject: Re: Ramifications? Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:34:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810292343.PAA25515@lists1.best.com> Firstly, Mrsmiley! and StraightEdge - both of you guys raise excellent points. Just have to give you your props. >>>Will Hasbro get involved? Big question. The commercials they > produced for Marvel sold a lotta books, which helped them sell a lotta > toys, which helped them sell a lot more books, and so on. I think > that Hasbro's direct involvement is necessary (at least in the form of > new toys and toy commercials, even if they don't produce commercials > explicitely for the comic book) to obtain those kiddie dollars. And > let's face it, those kid's cash is what will breathe life into the > enterprise. Without Hasbro's support, Bench Mark's principle audience > is us, the die-hard fans, and whatever comic fans they can lure away > from Spider-man. Are there enough of us to keep it profitable?<< >I think so. I dont think the book is an advertising machine like the old one >was. I believe it is basically a book to continue the story of some great >characters who make up the very best of what GIJoe is. This is aseries fo >the fans... and thats obvious because Larry is *choosing* a cast... that means >the cast is not based on toys... and if a RAH toyline follows, it'll be the >first time in history that a GIJoe toy has followed completly off another >medium. This is a great point. In the YoJoe.com interview with Larry Hama almost a year ago, I asked him if he'd ever consider writing a new G.I.Joe comic book. His answer was: "Only if I had complete freedom to do it my way, and that ain't ever gonna happen." It happened! If there's no toyline to dictate the characters and vehicles that appear in the pages of the comic book, then the final say falls in the very capable hands of Larry Hama. Very coool. >Aside from that... lets not take this book too seriously. I believe it is >meant to be a great book... a book we all deserve as die-hard Joe fans... and >perhaps it's existance *will* increase desire for more toys... but for now.. >lets just enjoy the suspense.. and the read! Well said! -Eugene ------------------------------------------------------------ eugenE | YO JOE! |--------------------------------------- eson@yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! ------------------------------------------------------------ "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" ------------------------------------------------------------ "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.12 --------------- From: "Robert Culpepper" Subject: Friday Chat Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:34:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE0394.AAEF3880" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE0394.AAEF3880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yo Joes! It's Friday.. that means it's time for Friday Chat!! We will be = chatting Friday night around 9pm EST at #Gijoe at irc.webmaster.com . = We're going to give webmaster another try... Point your irc client that = way or log into webmaster through the java interface at Omega Battalion = (http://members.xoom.com/JoeRollCall). There's no idea what might = happen when you show up on Friday! ... there's a good reason we don't = post the logs!!! Robert Culpepper Code Name: Eagle Eye ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE0394.AAEF3880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yo Joes!
 
It's Friday.. that means it's time = for Friday=20 Chat!!  We will be chatting Friday night around 9pm EST at #Gijoe = at=20 irc.webmaster.com .  We're going to give webmaster another = try... =20 Point your irc client that way or log into webmaster through the java = interface=20 at Omega Battalion (http://members.xoom.com/JoeR= ollCall). =20 There's no idea what might happen when you show up on Friday!  ... = there's=20 a good reason we don't post the logs!!!
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE0394.AAEF3880-- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.13 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:48:26 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << I dunno about him being an international hero, Yury Gagarin from the good old USSR was the fist man in space, Glenn is only second best I'm afraid. -John >> GRWWWORRRR... --Junkyard --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.14 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Hama's OTHER 25 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:56:20 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << The twins are a possibility but I remember reading somewhere that Hama didn't like them >> Humm, too bad. Though the twins are corny, it won't be quite the same without them. I always liked their parts in the Battle of Benzheen storyline. --Sappy Fool --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.15 --------------- From: klacoste@bigfoot.com (Kevin LaCoste) Subject: GI Joe 2000? Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:05:58 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I noticed the mention of GI Joe 2000 on Zartan's Domain while checking out the comic info. The thing that really got my attention was the comment about less articulation to keep production costs down. Now don't get me wrong, I like Star Wars and they have some really cool characters, but I don't bother picking up the figures for this reason alone. I'd really prefer to see the high-quality figures we know they are capable of and pay an extra buck or two. I was just wondering what all my listmates thought of this. PS: Can somebody please inform me as to what POTF stands for! Kevin LaCoste klacoste@bigfoot.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.16 --------------- From: klacoste@bigfoot.com (Kevin LaCoste) Subject: Re: Digest gijoe.v001.n730 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:08:43 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In response to my own question on POTF. Could it be "Star Wars: Power of the Force"? That is a pretty cheese ball name in my opinion. Kevin LaCoste klacoste@bigfoot.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.17 --------------- From: "M. Cooke" Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:21:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit POTF = Power Of The Force ---------------- Michael R. Cooke NorthWest Tactical http://www.phat-city.com/nwtac (253)858-9993 M-F 10am - 7pm -----Original Message----- From: Kevin LaCoste To: gijoe@lists.best.com Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 9:07 PM Subject: GI Joe 2000? >I noticed the mention of GI Joe 2000 on Zartan's Domain while checking out >the comic info. The thing that really got my attention was the comment >about less articulation to keep production costs down. Now don't get me >wrong, I like Star Wars and they have some really cool characters, but I >don't bother picking up the figures for this reason alone. I'd really >prefer to see the high-quality figures we know they are capable of and pay >an extra buck or two. > >I was just wondering what all my listmates thought of this. > >PS: Can somebody please inform me as to what POTF stands for! > >Kevin LaCoste >klacoste@bigfoot.com > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.18 --------------- From: WyvernDrag@aol.com Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 00:33:54 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit POTF= Power of the Force C-V --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.19 --------------- From: "man9" Subject: Re: VentureStar Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 00:21:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit { Yes, this is true. The Space craft is called the "VentureStar" as is being developed by Lockheed Martin. It should reduce the cost of lauching ten fold. I have a pictureof it I could scan if any one wants to see it. } Yes, please do. I've heard something about this for years, but I've since forgotten what it's supposed to look like. Shipwreck btw What is the obsession with smooshing two words together in the 90s? VentureStar? --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.20 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:07:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:48 PM 10/29/98 EST, you wrote: ><< I dunno about him being an international hero, Yury Gagarin from the good > old USSR was the fist man in space, Glenn is only second best I'm afraid. > -John >> > >GRWWWORRRR... >--Junkyard Haha thats FIRST man not fist man. Where's Mutt when you need him? On second thought Mutt growls and bites more than Junkyard. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.21 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Digest gijoe.v001.n730 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:07:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:08 PM 10/30/98 +0900, you wrote: >In response to my own question on POTF. Could it be "Star Wars: Power of >the Force"? That is a pretty cheese ball name in my opinion. Yeah thats it. I believe Darth Vader quipped that somewhere in the trilogy. I agree with you about articulation. GI Joe since it started in the 60s was about articulation and was one the major reasons I bought it. Considering how cheap CORPS toys are why would GI Joe cost much more? Its not like they have to pay George Lucas zillions for the name. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.22 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Hama's OTHER 25 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:07:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:56 PM 10/29/98 EST, you wrote: ><< The twins are a possibility but I remember reading somewhere that Hama >didn't like them >> > >Humm, too bad. Though the twins are corny, it won't be quite the same without >them. I always liked their parts in the Battle of Benzheen storyline. >--Sappy Fool Corny as they are I like them too. I especially loved them as a kid and that neato box with the mirrors on them. If they didn't have that stupid telepathetic link they'd be as good as any other Cobra. Remember that commercial advertising them? "My brother's in trouble" "How do you know?" "Cause I know." and then the song went kinda like "The evil twin brothers are gonna cause trouble" -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.23 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: Lifeline question Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:26:02 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 From: John A Woods Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 8:47 PM >>To clarify all of this (if Kyle hasn't done so already), >>according to my brother Brian (SSgt. Brian L. Bernay, >>full-time Medic/ Medical Admin NCO in the Army >>National Guard), medics get a choice: they can either >>wear the Red Cross brassard on their uniform and go >>unarmed or don't wear it and go armed...most choose >>to not wear it and go armed. >>I guess Doc and Lifeline would be the exceptions. >>So we need a Joe medic who, like my brother, goes >>without the Red Cross and is also fully trained and >>good with weapons! > >So does that mean your brother would be "fair game" >in a war Yeah...but that "fair game" will shoot back! >and a Red Crosser would be considered a neutral >there to help only the wounded? Not neutral really, just protected from being shot at (supposedly) by the Geneva Convention. Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNjlqCcSNrCBK3ASDEQIYcgCgizYtbUNjzcp1vDJugjrXtKvDVcEAoJHN mvoC/ndJFripaxoymCzmwvcT =Pwgd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.24 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: re: John Glenn (was: Re: A Real American Hero) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:32:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Our speech debate team has adopted John Glenn as our unofficial mascot. Here's our three references to him (which get sprinkled into our speeches): John Glenn: Badass in Space John Glenn: The Hope, The Hype, The Superhero A 77 year old man with 200,000 pounds of thrust behind him...the latest ad for Viagra? No, it's John Glenn, Badass in Space. Hey, folks, I didn't come up with these, I'm just reporting them... Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNjlrlsSNrCBK3ASDEQIS3gCeM9n0XRfjrvkhrluVClNYcXB3lKYAoLwL cxwiEhFrc7ddNxSIk72iw2qm =5svu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.25 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:15:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well,if they're gonna make new joes less articulated,I'm NOT picking them up. They just wouldn't be GIJOE's. I found the toy before I knew about the comic or Cartoon,and one of the main reasons I liked them so much was because they were so movable. I was afraid of this...Some Suits at Hasbro/Kenner had a brainstorming session and one bright spark said : "Let's re-invent gijoe for 2000." The word re-invent scares the hell out of me since all that Savage and Extreme crap. I think the main reason for this is because there will be new Star Wars figures coming out (because of the new movies) and it's better/cheaper for them to have all action figures be the same design. Tim "Duke,I am your father" (see it happen?) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.26 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: 99/2000 joes Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:18:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Somebody said that Thomas Wheeler had said there would be no 3/75 inchers being put out by Hasbro next year. I just hope this means Hasbro's keeping Thomas in the Dark OR he isn't allowed to say anything about it... With the 98 line gijoe is getting back on the right track. It would be a shame not to follow it up. (with the SAME articulation $@#?!!! ) Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.27 --------------- From: Adam Casey Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 03:25:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810300433.UAA15674@lists1.best.com> > I dunno about him being an international hero, Yury Gagarin from the good > old USSR was the fist man in space, Glenn is only second best I'm afraid. True, but Gagarin was there for 2 hours. Glenn made it there about 4 hours. And I might add that I only see 13 stripes on the moon. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.28 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Shuttle Info Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:15:08 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810300300.TAA07735@lists1.best.com> James McFadden wrote: > > >I hear they are building a new type shuttle and > >from what I've seen,it looks kinda like the Defiant. > >(the gijoe one,not the Star Trek one) > > >Can anybody confirm/deny this? > > I can confirm it. > > A few months back, I recall seeing a big, two-page ad in TIME magazine > for some big aerospace company like Lockheed. The shuttle is > definitely similar to the Defiant. My guess is they had that > shape/design around for a while. We know that some of the Joe vehicles > were based on prototypes or design concepts. > > BTW, that new shuttle wouldn't need the booster rockets and would be > even more like a real "spaceship" kind of shuttle. A "on-its-own" craft. > > Later. > JMM > Hi everyone, I can tell you more on this as being a freelance journalist, I was at the Paris Air Show last year and got a press kit on Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works and a artwork photo of the shuttle and a press release on it. The shuttle is called the X-33 Venturestar. Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.29 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: Shuttle Info Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:27:13 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810300300.TAA07735@lists1.best.com> <199810301011.CAA22342@lists1.best.com> Hi everyone, Sorry I missed the earlier messages about this and also forgot to add if anyone wants specific technical and program details from the press release I got, e-mail me off the list. Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n731.30 --------------- From: Kane429@aol.com Subject: '98 Joes in New York yet? Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:41:01 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone found the '98 Joes in New York yet? I can't find them anywhere :( Kane --------------- END gijoe.v001.n731 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n732 -------------- 001 - BespinRunt@aol.com - Re: GI Joe 2000? 002 - BespinRunt@aol.com - Re: '98 Joes in New York yet? 003 - James McFadden > Power of the Force. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.2 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: '98 Joes in New York yet? Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:57:14 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/30/98 6:52:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, Kane429@aol.com writes: << Has anyone found the '98 Joes in New York yet? I can't find them anywhere :( Kane >> they havent reached the US yet --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.3 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 04:19:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---Adam Casey wrote: > > > I dunno about him being an international hero, Yury Gagarin from the good > > old USSR was the fist man in space, Glenn is only second best I'm afraid. > > True, but Gagarin was there for 2 hours. Glenn made it there about 4 hours. > And I might add that I only see 13 stripes on the moon. > U-S-A! U-S-A!! Sorry, but I love my country... *snif* *snif* JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.4 --------------- From: Joseph Smith Subject: RE: Digest gijoe.v001.n731 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 9:16:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ok, little history lesson. The Honorable John Glen was the 4th man in space. First Yuri popped up and came back down. Then American Alan Shepard popped up and came back down, followed by Gus Grissom. The distinction Glen has over these guys, besides the fact that he's alive, is that America seemed to adopt him as a symbol of victory and the American "can-do" mentality. If you've ever seen "The Right Stuff," you know what I mean. The US technology was untested and unproven to send a man into orbit, and Glen knew that. He went anyway, suffering a major malfunction with his space craft, and returned unharmed but shaken up. His successful flight was a great symbolic victory in the Cold War. Pretty good for a jarhead, huh? Even though yesterday was only his second space flight, he has continued to contribute to the American way in politics and has always maintained a healthy, moral patriotism--ever ready to speak positively of America. I know a big part of this flight is public relations for NASA, but you just gotta hand it to a guy who's willing to jump into the unknown just for adventure's sake...twice. Joey Smith (Smitty) Humming the theme to "The Right Stuff" I dunno about him being an international hero, Yury Gagarin from the good > old USSR was the fist man in space, Glenn is only second best I'm afraid. True, but Gagarin was there for 2 hours. Glenn made it there about 4 hours. And I might add that I only see 13 stripes on the moon. ***************************************************** From: Joseph Smith Walk Thru the Bible Ministries Tel: 770-451-9300 (Local) 1-800-868-9300 (Inside US) Fax: 770-454-9313 E-mail Address: jsmith@walkthru.org Home Page: http://www.walkthru.org For more information via email send a blank email to: info@walkthru.org ***************************************************** --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.5 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Before the new series... Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:23:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Before Larry Hama starts writing his new series, I thought I'd mention my take on a new Joe. A while back, I thought about writing my own "end of Cobra" storyline to wrap up the unfinished Joe story. At the time, I figured the Joes were gone for good. I kind of put it off more and more as the news of the '97 Joes came out. Anyway, here's how I planned to address the abrupt ending: In my would-be story, we would learn why the Joes were closed down in 1994: Cobra had been active in Borovia/W-land/Trans-Carpathia as the series came to a close, but after they took over some of the area they retreated, and kind of kept quiet in the Eastern European hiding place. Cobra seemed to be out of the terrorist game, and the Pentagon decided that a team like the Joes was too costly to keep around without Cobra. So, against Hawk's judgment, the team was shut down. NOW, cut to 1998. Cobra has yet to resurface, and Hawk's sittin' behind a desk on some anti-terrorist job. Then, the military spy satellites pick up some strange structures in Eastern Europe: Terror Dromes. Some of the higher-ups (like Gen. Hollingsworth) decide that the threat has returned. Hawk asks how soon he can assemble his team, and the Joes are reborn. You may recall that the series ended with Destro, Zartan the Baroness, etc, brainwashed by Cobra Commander. We'll find Destro still with Cobra, but feeling not to good about it. He doesn't know why he's still working with CC, but he can't leave. I thought he could be more like the old Destro: working with Cobra, but not really sure why. We also learn that Storm Shadow freed himself from the mind control and disappeared into Europe, taking Billy with him. Again, rescueing his student from Cobra captivity like he did way back in the old series. As for the Terror Dromes, Cobra is now dealing with Wolfgang, the weaselly little W-lander who became president of Borovia (?) thanks to Cobra. They've decided to work with Wolfgang cuz he's chosen by the people, and he can be easily fooled and pushed around. He was too dumb to not see the danger of covering his country with Terror Dromes. Anyway, that's as far as I got: the setup. Now that I've said that, Larry Hama can write his new series. Of course, I'll sue him if the story is similar... :) Just kidding, Mr. Hama, sir. Feel free to use that storyline if you want. For a small fee. So, guys, what do you think of that setup? JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.6 --------------- From: "DeVoe, Gary (DEVOEGW)" Subject: RE: Ramifications? Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:03:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com [SMTP:BADSCNAME@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 8:21 PM To: gijoe@lists.best.com Subject: Re: Ramifications? "The power to create the largest passenger liner on the planet is insignificant to the power of The Force." god i gotta get out more... -------------> Actually that was quite funny... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.7 --------------- From: "DeVoe, Gary (DEVOEGW)" Subject: RE: A Real American Hero Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:06:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com [SMTP:BADSCNAME@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 8:36 PM To: gijoe@lists.best.com Subject: Re: A Real American Hero << Actually, it's being called Mission:Medimucil. >> crrrrraaaaaaap.....iiiiiin...sssspaaaaaaaaace.....! --Commander Mort ----------------> Out near the constellation U-ri-ine...(Apollo 13 reference) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.8 --------------- From: Rod Pellegrini Subject: Gagarin and Glenn...and Shepard Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:05:46 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII John wrote: <> Actually, Gagarin was the first man in ORBIT. The first man in space (albeit a suborbital flight, AFAIK, was Alan Shepard, a couple of months before Gagarin made it to orbit). John Glenn was the first American in orbit. Rockhammer KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // "ROCK CHALK JAYHAWKS" KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU ////////////////////////////////////////// KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Rod A. Pellegrini KKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Jayhawks rule!!!!! KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // rodpelle@falcon.cc.ukans.edu KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // Live long and prosper KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // May the force be with you --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.9 --------------- From: "DeVoe, Gary (DEVOEGW)" Subject: RE: GI Joe 2000? Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:22:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" POTF= Picked Off The Floor Which is where the 'Joes will be if they have limited articulation... -Triage --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.10 --------------- From: Scott Guthrie Subject: Re: Gagarin and Glenn...and Shepard Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:46:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810301507.HAA26062@lists1.best.com> Actually Shepard AND Grissom did non orbital flights before Glenn, their Mercury capsules were on Redstone rockets that didn't have enough power for orbit. The rest of the Mercury rockets were Atlus. NASA has a great web page with tons of info, pictures..... Tech Mage At 09:05 AM 10/30/98 -0600, you wrote: >John wrote: > ><good >old USSR was the fist man in space, Glenn is only second best I'm afraid. > >-John>> > >Actually, Gagarin was the first man in ORBIT. The first man in space >(albeit a suborbital flight, AFAIK, was Alan Shepard, a couple of months >before Gagarin made it to orbit). John Glenn was the first American in >orbit. > > Rockhammer > > >KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // "ROCK CHALK JAYHAWKS" >KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU ////////////////////////////////////////// >KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Rod A. Pellegrini >KKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Jayhawks rule!!!!! >KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // rodpelle@falcon.cc.ukans.edu >KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // Live long and prosper >KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // May the force be with you > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.11 --------------- From: "mrsmiley!" Subject: Re: Ramifications? Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:25:54 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Ok, first off, Thomas Wheeler has said that there are absolutely no GIJoe 3 >3/4 inchers on the schedule for 1999, or 2000. On the other hand, Rod Hannah >has announced that there is a new "GIJoe: 2000" line that he's been told >about, and deals with absolutely no old characters ... all new ones, like >Extreme. Hmm...didn't know that. I wrote my initial post with the hopes that there may in fact be new RAH figs in the offing. So the consensus is that Hasbro has effectively washed their hands of the property? >So the new comics (Which are based on the Real American hero mythos >dont seem to have any toy tie in at all, unless Hasbro springs a huge suprise >on us. I can't understand, in this situation, what Hasbro hopes to gain. It has been mentioned elsewhere that they are giving Bench Press and therefore Hama "creative freedom" with this project. If we accept this at face value, I percieve two results: a FANTASTIC comic and further proof that Hasbro really has lost interest in continuing the line. If Hasbro relinquishes creative control completeley, we have to assume that if there was ever a chance for new toys, it's gone now. I wonder, though, what rights Hasbro retains with regard to this enterprise. If the book does turn a profit, they may very well try to intervene despite their alleged promises to the contrary. As long as there is the slightest chance of making money, Hasbro is not going to give up the opportunity. >Firstly, Its "Bench Press Studios" Heh...oops. >Secondly, I am more than sure these will be smaller run books... not expected >to sell as much as say X-Men. I think its wholly unrealistic to think a GIJoe >book could ever sell on that level again. Naturally, we can't expect sales to rival X-men. I'm just concerned as to whether or not the company can last more than a couple of years. Sure, Dark Horse made their fortune with licensed material, but we can hardly expect lightening to strike twice. Techno Comics tried it and failed, Now tried it and failed, I think Hollywood Comics is dead, and probably a handful of more obscure others. Even heavy advertising and word of mouth are often not sufficient to keep a line alive for very long, as in the cases of Defiant, Broadway, Lightning,etc. My point is, you gotta sell a lot of books just to break even, and in today's comic market where a book will cost you around three bucks, that's hard to do. > I dont think the book is an advertising machine like the old one >was. I believe it is basically a book to continue the story of some great >characters who make up the very best of what GIJoe is. This is aseries fo >the fans... and thats obvious because Larry is *choosing* a cast... that means >the cast is not based on toys... and if a RAH toyline follows, it'll be the >first time in history that a GIJoe toy has followed completly off another >medium. What you say here could be at the core of Hasbro's thinking in this matter. Since the trend in toys today is to make stuff based in other media, maybe they are interested in a sort of retro-active tie- in? To test their toy concept in another media before returning to production? The optimist in me would like to think so. Again, though, how long would it be before they reasserted control and hurt the comic with a "re-tooling" like what they're planning with their Beast Wars Cartoon? >So far, the only place to by Bench Press Studio's Warrors Way is in comic >stores, and possibly at some book stores like Barnes and Nobles... its not >likely this book will see such wide distibution... maybe in TRU ailses...with >the rest of the bagged comics... TRU would be a great outlet for these books. I hope Bench Press explores that possibility. >I dont think a success with this book will signal anything but a kick ass >read, and a continuation with one of the most solid, and entertaining >storylines in comics history. Entirely possible, but few things occur in a vaccuum. All things are fundamentally interconnected, or so says Dirk Gently. >I suggest everyone order two copies at least... plus pick up the Transformers titles.. Any word yet on who's associated with this? Perhaps we should start writing in now to dissuade them from doing a cross-over... Mr. Smiley! .... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.12 --------------- From: "mrsmiley!" Subject: RE: GI Joe 2000? Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:32:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You'd think the people at the company would learn. GIJOE EXTREME is still on the shelves here. Incidentally, for anyone who cares, the Extreme line has reappeared as a group of 3 3/4 inch knockoffs at Big Lots/ Odd Lots for about a buck apiece. Mr. Smiley! .... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.13 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Before the new series... Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:26:45 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/30/98 9:37:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmmcfadd@yahoo.com writes: << So, guys, what do you think of that setup? >> Well, its remarkable close to the set up I have laid down for my Rage of Cobra saga currently under way on Zartan's Domain. Some elements are different... like Wolfgang in power in Borigia... but mostly the set up is the same. The Joes were closed down by the Pentagon because Cobra seemed to vanish. My explanation does have a bit to do with the Iron Army... but thats my take... I like to include everything into my story... I dont just pick and choose what I like and dont... Anyway, if you dont have an aversion to fan-fiction, check it out. I'm curious to see how close, or far, my story comes to yours... you know what they say about great minds... Straight-Edge The Rage of Cobra --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.14 --------------- From: "Peter W. Owens" Subject: Re: Viagra humor... Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:40:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810301143.DAA27507@lists1.best.com> LOL, Adam! I wish I had the mental capacity to come up with these! From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: re: John Glenn (was: Re: A Real American Hero) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:32:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Our speech debate team has adopted John Glenn as our unofficial mascot. Here's our three references to him (which get sprinkled into our speeches): John Glenn: Badass in Space John Glenn: The Hope, The Hype, The Superhero A 77 year old man with 200,000 pounds of thrust behind him...the latest ad for Viagra? No, it's John Glenn, Badass in Space. Hey, folks, I didn't come up with these, I'm just reporting them... Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNjlrlsSNrCBK3ASDEQIS3gCeM9n0XRfjrvkhrluVClNYcXB3lKYAoLwL cxwiEhFrc7ddNxSIk72iw2qm =5svu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.15 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:44:27 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/30/98 11:55:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, mrsmiley!@goplay.com writes: << Incidentally, for anyone who cares, the Extreme line has reappeared as a group of 3 3/4 inch knockoffs at Big Lots/ Odd Lots for about a buck apiece. >> Hehe.. you're talking to the GIJoe Extreme nut here.. do they have one that looks like Savage? Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.16 --------------- From: Zzarana@aol.com Subject: Re: Viagra humor... Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:00:34 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the laugh Adam. ~Zz --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.17 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: Viagra humor... Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:47:08 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 From: Peter W. Owens Date: Friday, October 30, 1998 10:57 AM >LOL, Adam! I wish I had the mental capacity to come >up with these! While I probably have the capacity to do it, I didn't actually come up with these...they are courtesy of the Extempers on the team... Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNjoXu8SNrCBK3ASDEQJdmgCePKMfn/MD8oXEVu3HsyI1geAZz38An2U3 ZBBgohvgwtoo8H8nKAjq7Zy5 =jAMw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.18 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:49:37 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii JOES >Nope, I'd call him an American hero. >I saw the shuttle launch live on CNN. >The Discovery has already been launched >about 25 times they said. True - anyone on here who bad mouths John Glenn can answer to me .... 8-s >I hear they are building a new type shuttle and >from what I've seen,it looks kinda like the Defiant. >(the gijoe one,not the Star Trek one) > >Can anybody confirm/deny this? > >BTW with the Defiant I mean the shuttle part,not the >booster,so it also looks like the Crusader I guess. > This is true. The new shuttle looks a whole lot like the Crusader / Defiant shuttles. Actually the Defiant design is based ( I assume ) off the old M2F2 and M2F3 ' lifting body' research craft that NASA osed in the late 60's , early 70's to test glide rates, etc. for the original shuttle designs. The M2F2 gained fame as it id the crsh of one of these that was used in the openiong of the Six Million Dollar Man series - NASA footage, obviously. Anyways - for more info on the new ' Venturestar and X33 ' shuttles check out: Http://www.venturestar.com - rocketeer - --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.19 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:01:05 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Tim "Duke,I am your father" (see it happen?) >> ::passes out, falls out of the chair and hits the floor:: --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.20 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:02:36 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << True, but Gagarin was there for 2 hours. Glenn made it there about 4 hours. And I might add that I only see 13 stripes on the moon. >> ...also at least we still HAVE a flag. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.21 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Gagarin and Glenn...and Shepard Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:03:45 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Actually, Gagarin was the first man in ORBIT. The first man in space >(albeit a suborbital flight, AFAIK, was Alan Shepard, a couple of months >before Gagarin made it to orbit). John Glenn was the first American in >orbit. > Yuri Gagarin WAS the first man in space - on a suborbitsl flight ' lob' the same as Shepard and Gus Grissom. Yuri did not orbit on the first flight and was there before Shepard ( as much as we americans do not want to think ' they' beat us to space ) - rocketeer - --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.22 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: 80s Children Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:08:14 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Much neater list than the last ' 80's children list '. > >>You are an 80's child if: > >> > >>You had a crush on Jon Bon Jovi, or knew someone who did. can't say as I di ( or even knew anyone who did ) > >>You know what a "burnout" is. Burnout ? , as a Drag racer, I would say heating the tires ..8-) > >>You wanted to be on StarSearch. (Come on, we all did) can't say as I ever cared > >>You can remember what Michael Jackson looked like before his nose > >>fell off. Or even when he had those freaky eyes in "Thriller" at the > >>end > >>of the video. sad to say - I can remember these .. > >>You wore a banana clip or one of those slap on wrist bands at some > >>point during your youth. nope, never did. > >>You owned a doll with 'Xavier Roberts' signed on it's ass. ?????? > >>You knew what Willis was "talkin' 'bout." did he ever know what he was talkin about ? ( what'you talkin about ? ) > >>You HAD to have your MTV. NO, I allways disliked MTV as trashy, it's worse now. > >>You know the profound meaning of "Wax on, Wax off." When do I get to train Mr. Miyagi (?sp) ?? > >>You can name at least half of the members of the elite "Brat Pack." can't do that either. > >>You know that another name for a keyboard is a "Synthesizer." YEP. > >>You hold a special place in your heart for "Back to the Future." Very cool film and timeless too ( no pun intended ) 8-) > >>You know where to go if you "wanna go where everybody knows your > >>name." Fraggle Rock, right ? > >>You thought Molly Ringwald was REALLY cool. (Was there an 80's movie > >>she WASN'T in?) hmm, this I 'll buy. Not sure what movies she was /wasn't it. > >>You know what "Sike" means. I thought it would be " psyche " ? > >>You fell victim to 80's fashion: big hair, god-awful fashion plus > >>accessories. Been there, done that. > >>You wanted to be a Goonie ("Goonies never say die.") again can't say as I did. ( allthough I do have a real cool plush Gismo ) > >>You actually thought "Dirty Dancing" was a REALLY good movie, but > >>you couldn't see it because your parents wouldn't let you. no opinion either way. > >>You felt ashamed when Rob Lowe got in trouble for having sex with > >>minors and videotaping it, because you liked him. Rob who ?? > >>You've heard of Garbage Pail Kids. and still have some , as a matter of fact > >>You knew "The Artist" when he was humbly called "Prince." True ( didn't listen to him then or now though ) > >>You actually saw Ted Danson as the MacDaddy he played "Sam" to be. nope. who's Sam ? > >>You ever wore flourescent-neon if you will-clothing...(or > >>nailpolish) yep - well, maybe not the nailpolish....... > >>You could breakdance, or wished you could. nah, I'm to out of shape for either, but neat if I wasn't ..8-) > >>You know who Max Headroom is. Never really cared for Max either, sorry. > >>You remember when ATARI was a state of the art video game system. > >>(Remember Pong?) I still have an original pong game ( one game only, b & w ) > >>You own any cassettes. come on now - cassettes are still very popular, it's not ALL CD's ! > >>You were led to believe that in the year 2000 we'd all be living on > >>the moon. never thought that - I was building rocket motors in the 80's too, sorry, to much of a realist to believe we're going back to the moon. > >>You remember and/or own any of the CareBear Glass collection from > >>Pizza Hut. nope - don't remember or own any. > >>Poltergeist freaked you out. no. ( not into horror films either ) > >>You carried your lunch to school in a Gremlins or an ET lunchbox. nope, paper bags - we never had the money for ' extras' like a real live lunchbox. > >>You wish you were alone now with Tiffany. now THAT would be ok ! ( actually I dated a girl named Tiffany in high scholl - 85-86 ) > >>You have ever pondered why Smurfette was the ONLY female smurf. hmmm - true. allthough is she the only one, or are there others in the background - will have to go rent some Smurf tapes and check ..8-) > >>You watched Jem religiously, desperately wanted those red flashy > >>earings, wanted to communicate with some being named Cinergy, or you > >>wanted > >>green hair like that lead singer of the Misfits. JEM rocks !!! ( to this day ). and it's " Synergy " and the Misfits leader was Pizzaz. > >>You know what a Doozer is. nope. > >>You wore biker shorts underneath a short skirt and felt stylish. sorry, I never wore a skirt, thank you. > >>You ever had a Swatch Watch. nope ( see note above about no $$ for extras ) > >>You actually spent countless hours trying to perfect the care-bear > >>stare. can't say as I did . > >>You had a crush on one of the Coreys (Haim or Feldman). nope. > >>You remember when Saturday Night Live was funny. it was ?? ( again, no liking for that trashy stuff ) > >>You had WonderWoman or Superman underoos. nope. > >>You wanted to be The Hulk for Halloween. actually this is True ( HULK was my fave character and the only comic I still collect regularly ) > >>You Believed that "By the power of Greyskull, you HAD the power!" YOU GOT IT! > >>You thought that Transformers were more than meets the eye. Yep - and sing the song too. > >>You know what a "Whammee" is. ("No Whammy, no whammy, stop!!") nope - I thought they made frisbees ? > >>Partying "like it's 1999" seemed SO far away. hmmm... gotta comment on this one. The actual song here ( my the artist ) refers to a huge party in (late ) 1999 - as it is 2000 and a new mellenium is about to begin, therefor deserves this AWESOME party. sorry guys , but 2000 IS NOT ( and never will be ) the start of the new Mellenium - it is the LAST year of the 20th century. ( sorry -pet peeve of mine, see ads and stuff with this incorrect reference all the time and it bugs the ^&(*& out of me ) > >> If you can identify with at least half of this list then you, > >>My friend, are a "Child of the 80's." > >> > not sure if that is half, so am I a ' child of the corn..er, sorry 80's ? " - rocketeer - --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.23 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: RE: 80s Children Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:47:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My replies.... > ---------- > From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com[SMTP:rktmoose@ix.netcom.com] > Reply To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 3:08 PM > To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Subject: Re: 80s Children > > Much neater list than the last ' 80's children list '. > > > >>You are an 80's child if: > > >> > > >>You had a crush on Jon Bon Jovi, or knew someone who did. > > can't say as I di ( or even knew anyone who did ) > Eric's>Slippery When Wet > > >>You know what a "burnout" is. > > Burnout ? , as a Drag racer, I would say heating the tires ..8-) > Eric's> when some people could smoke in school or were loosers anyway. > > >>You wanted to be on StarSearch. (Come on, we all did) > > can't say as I ever cared > > > >>You can remember what Michael Jackson looked like before his nose > > >>fell off. Or even when he had those freaky eyes in "Thriller" at the > > >>end > > >>of the video. > > sad to say - I can remember these .. > > > >>You wore a banana clip or one of those slap on wrist bands at some > > >>point during your youth. > > nope, never did. > > > >>You owned a doll with 'Xavier Roberts' signed on it's ass. > > ?????? > Eric> I even had a CABBAGE PATCH KID > > >>You knew what Willis was "talkin' 'bout." > > did he ever know what he was talkin about ? ( what'you talkin about ? ) > > > >>You HAD to have your MTV. > > NO, I allways disliked MTV as trashy, it's worse now. > > > >>You know the profound meaning of "Wax on, Wax off." > > When do I get to train Mr. Miyagi (?sp) ?? > > > >>You can name at least half of the members of the elite "Brat Pack." > > can't do that either. > Eric> Rob Lowe, Judd Nelson, Ally Sheedy, Demi Moore, Emelio Estevez...St.ELMO'S FIRE anyone. > > >>You know that another name for a keyboard is a "Synthesizer." > > YEP. > > > >>You hold a special place in your heart for "Back to the Future." > > Very cool film and timeless too ( no pun intended ) 8-) > > > >>You know where to go if you "wanna go where everybody knows your > > >>name." > > Fraggle Rock, right ? > Eric> I hope you remember Cheers > > >>You thought Molly Ringwald was REALLY cool. (Was there an 80's movie > > >>she WASN'T in?) > > hmm, this I 'll buy. Not sure what movies she was /wasn't it. > Eric> PRETTY IN PINK, SIXTEEN CANDLES, SAY ANYTHING, THE BREAKFAST CLUB to name a few > > >>You know what "Sike" means. > > I thought it would be " psyche " ? > Eric> No, we couldn't spell psychology or psalms. > > >>You fell victim to 80's fashion: big hair, god-awful fashion plus > > >>accessories. > > Been there, done that. > > > >>You wanted to be a Goonie ("Goonies never say die.") > > again can't say as I did. ( allthough I do have a real cool plush Gismo ) > Eric> No, I had that game based on the movie for my Nintendo > > >>You actually thought "Dirty Dancing" was a REALLY good movie, but > > >>you couldn't see it because your parents wouldn't let you. > > no opinion either way. > Eric> It wasn't bad. > > >>You felt ashamed when Rob Lowe got in trouble for having sex with > > >>minors and videotaping it, because you liked him. > > Rob who ?? > Eric> He parodied that crime in Wayne's World > > >>You've heard of Garbage Pail Kids. > > and still have some , as a matter of fact > > > >>You knew "The Artist" when he was humbly called "Prince." > > True ( didn't listen to him then or now though ) > > > >>You actually saw Ted Danson as the MacDaddy he played "Sam" to be. > > nope. who's Sam ? > Eric> Cheers, from the Brandon Tartikoff NBC days, > > >>You ever wore flourescent-neon if you will-clothing...(or > > >>nailpolish) > > yep - well, maybe not the nailpolish....... > > > >>You could breakdance, or wished you could. > > nah, I'm to out of shape for either, but neat if I wasn't ..8-) > > > >>You know who Max Headroom is. > > Never really cared for Max either, sorry. > > > >>You remember when ATARI was a state of the art video game system. > > >>(Remember Pong?) > > I still have an original pong game ( one game only, b & w ) > Eric> Atari was cool but, Intellivision was better and Colecovision rocked until Nintendo came along. > > >>You own any cassettes. > > come on now - cassettes are still very popular, it's not ALL CD's ! > > > >>You were led to believe that in the year 2000 we'd all be living on > > >>the moon. > > never thought that - I was building rocket motors in the 80's too, > sorry, > to much of a realist to believe we're going back to the moon. > Eric> NASA and Reagan said we were... > > >>You remember and/or own any of the CareBear Glass collection from > > >>Pizza Hut. > > nope - don't remember or own any. > Eric> I did and Strawberry Shortcake ones from BK > > >>Poltergeist freaked you out. > > no. ( not into horror films either ) > > > >>You carried your lunch to school in a Gremlins or an ET lunchbox. > > nope, paper bags - we never had the money for ' extras' like a real > live > lunchbox. > Eric? I has SW: TESB and Superman 2 > > >>You wish you were alone now with Tiffany. > > now THAT would be ok ! ( actually I dated a girl named Tiffany in high > scholl - 85-86 ) > > > >>You have ever pondered why Smurfette was the ONLY female smurf. > > hmmm - true. allthough is she the only one, or are there others in the > background - will have to go rent some Smurf tapes and check ..8-) > Eric: Smurfette was the only adult female. There was a child female Smurf. > > >>You watched Jem religiously, desperately wanted those red flashy > > >>earings, wanted to communicate with some being named Cinergy, or you > > >>wanted > > >>green hair like that lead singer of the Misfits. > > JEM rocks !!! ( to this day ). > > and it's " Synergy " and the Misfits leader was Pizzaz. > > > >>You know what a Doozer is. > > nope. > Eric> That was Fragle Rock > > >>You wore biker shorts underneath a short skirt and felt stylish. > > sorry, I never wore a skirt, thank you. > > > >>You ever had a Swatch Watch. > > nope ( see note above about no $$ for extras ) > > > >>You actually spent countless hours trying to perfect the care-bear > > >>stare. > > can't say as I did . > Eric> I remember it. > > >>You had a crush on one of the Coreys (Haim or Feldman). > > nope. > Eric> This is for the girls I see. > > >>You remember when Saturday Night Live was funny. > > it was ?? ( again, no liking for that trashy stuff ) > > > >>You had WonderWoman or Superman underoos. > > nope. > Eric> I did. > > >>You wanted to be The Hulk for Halloween. > > actually this is True ( HULK was my fave character and the only comic I > still collect regularly ) > Eric> The CBS show was awesome. > > >>You Believed that "By the power of Greyskull, you HAD the power!" > > YOU GOT IT! > Eric> He-Man was silly. > > >>You thought that Transformers were more than meets the eye. > > Yep - and sing the song too. > > > >>You know what a "Whammee" is. ("No Whammy, no whammy, stop!!") > > nope - I thought they made frisbees ? > Eric> The game show "Press Your Luck" > > >>Partying "like it's 1999" seemed SO far away. > > hmmm... gotta comment on this one. > > The actual song here ( my the artist ) refers to a huge party in (late ) > > 1999 - as it is 2000 and a new mellenium is about to begin, therefor > deserves this AWESOME party. > > sorry guys , but 2000 IS NOT ( and never will be ) the start of the new > Mellenium - it is the LAST year of the 20th century. > > ( sorry -pet peeve of mine, see ads and stuff with this incorrect > reference > all the time and it bugs the ^&(*& out of me ) > > > >> If you can identify with at least half of this list then you, > > >>My friend, are a "Child of the 80's." > > >> > > > > not sure if that is half, so am I a ' child of the corn..er, sorry 80's > ? > " > > > - rocketeer - > Eric> This was corny....I feel slightly effeminate as well after knowing all of this stuff... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.24 --------------- From: GIJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: Talking CC Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:21:06 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-29 22:40:21 EST, you write: << I have a suggestion here. I have always wanted to do it myself, but have never found the time. Why not remove the talking Cobra Commander's flat back and replace it with the Battle Corps Cobra Commander's back (You know, the one that was the same uniform, but black and silver instead of blue and yellow)? I think it would match perfectly. As for the color, if you were lucky enough to get some paint that was the same shade or very similar... Just an idea, Rockhammer >> I pulled the packs off and put smaller packs that look like theirs on them. Hawk's came from Duke (Original), CC's was Low Light 91, and Stalker i don't remember at this time. Overkill, i left without one, since he is a robot. A good cape to use for CC is the Cape that came with the 1996 POTF2 Lando figure, It fits into the holes on the backs of figures, I use it with my version one CC so it looks like he has the cape he wears in the Movie when he is being chastised by Serpentor and the others. John M. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.25 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: 80s Children Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:42:37 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810302109.NAA08977@lists1.best.com> rktmoose@ix.netcom.com wrote: I haven't recieved the original post, so I'm piggy-backing on this reply. > > Much neater list than the last ' 80's children list '. > > > >>You are an 80's child if: > > >> > > >>You had a crush on Jon Bon Jovi, or knew someone who did. Who? > > >>You know what a "burnout" is. Considering that we're talking about the '80s, maybe it means getting burned out on hedonism? Or perhaps burned out on cocaine? > > >>You wanted to be on StarSearch. (Come on, we all did) I didn't. > > >>You can remember what Michael Jackson looked like before his nose > > >>fell off. Or even when he had those freaky eyes in "Thriller" at the > > >>end > > >>of the video. Oh yeah, I remember when he was black. LONG time ago. :-) > > >>You wore a banana clip or one of those slap on wrist bands at some > > >>point during your youth. Nope. > > >>You owned a doll with 'Xavier Roberts' signed on it's ass. The heck? > > >>You knew what Willis was "talkin' 'bout." Have only the vaguest recollection of that show. > > >>You HAD to have your MTV. Was never a fan of modern music. Although I've recently started to develop an appreciation for some of it. > > >>You know the profound meaning of "Wax on, Wax off." This sounds like a Turtle Wax ad. > > >>You can name at least half of the members of the elite "Brat Pack." The only thing I know about them is that their name was stolen from the Rat Pack... > > >>You know that another name for a keyboard is a "Synthesizer." Oh yeah. > > >>You hold a special place in your heart for "Back to the Future." Yep. > > >>You know where to go if you "wanna go where everybody knows your > > >>name." More importantly, you remember that _Fraiser_ is a spin-off. > > >>You thought Molly Ringwald was REALLY cool. (Was there an 80's movie > > >>she WASN'T in?) Who? > > >>You know what "Sike" means. > > I thought it would be " psyche " ? You're right, it is. Darned annoying bit of slang... > > > >>You fell victim to 80's fashion: big hair, god-awful fashion plus > > >>accessories. I think I've repressed all memories of '80s fashions. > > >>You wanted to be a Goonie ("Goonies never say die.") This is from the movie _The Goonies_, right? What kind of pervert makes a movie about a bunch of kids trying to find the "fabulous treasure of one-eyed Willie"? > > >>You actually thought "Dirty Dancing" was a REALLY good movie, but > > >>you couldn't see it because your parents wouldn't let you. Heh, that movie was legendary when I was a kid. It was kinda like God: no one had ever seen it, but everyone knew about it. I've never seen it and don't want to. > > >>You felt ashamed when Rob Lowe got in trouble for having sex with > > >>minors and videotaping it, because you liked him. Who's Rob Lowe? As far as celebrity sex scandals, the one from my childhood I remember most vividly was Paul "Pee-Wee Herman" Reubens. > > >>You knew "The Artist" when he was humbly called "Prince." Had a passing familiarity. This reminds me: was anyone else aware of the brief popularity of pop stars at age 10? I found the whole pop music thing extremely shallow and transient. I find now that I can only appreciate popular music after it's been UNpopular for a few years. > > >>You actually saw Ted Danson as the MacDaddy he played "Sam" to be. > > nope. who's Sam ? The bartender from _Cheers_. He owned the bar at various times during the show's run. I haven't seen that show in years and I can still remember quite a bit about it. > > > >>You ever wore flourescent-neon if you will-clothing...(or > > >>nailpolish) Nope. I wasn't on a perpetual cocaine high, so I recognized garish clothing when I saw it. > > >>You could breakdance, or wished you could. Wished I could. (I am SO humiliated...) > > >>You know who Max Headroom is. How much headroom do I need? MAX Headroom. Heh, sorry about that, but I get the urge to say it whenever I see those words... > > >>You remember when ATARI was a state of the art video game system. > > >>(Remember Pong?) My first experience with video games was the NES. > > >>You own any cassettes. Sure do. > > >>You were led to believe that in the year 2000 we'd all be living on > > >>the moon. Yeah, I was led to believe that life would magically turn into something out of science fiction in the year 2000. No one ever told me that technology is constantly and slowly increasing, thanks to the efforts of countless scientists and engineers. > > >>You remember and/or own any of the CareBear Glass collection from > > >>Pizza Hut. I remember the Care Bears (damn, how cutesy can you get?), but not a Pizza Hut promotion involving them. > > >>Poltergeist freaked you out. Didn't see it when I was a kid. > > >>You carried your lunch to school in a Gremlins or an ET lunchbox. I was homeschooled from first grade on, so I had no use for a lunchbox. Had one in kindergarten, though. I'm too ashamed to say what kind it was... > > >>You wish you were alone now with Tiffany. Who? > > >>You have ever pondered why Smurfette was the ONLY female smurf. Yes. Obviously it was tokenism (one wonders why there wasn't a black Smurf), but I didn't know that at the time. > > >>You watched Jem religiously, desperately wanted those red flashy > > >>earings, wanted to communicate with some being named Cinergy, or you > > >>wanted > > >>green hair like that lead singer of the Misfits. C'mon, that was a girl show. Everyone knows that boys and girls are required to have different toys, cartoons, books, etc. > > >>You know what a Doozer is. Nope. > > >>You wore biker shorts underneath a short skirt and felt stylish. How about frilly pink dresses? I wore those all the time. > > >>You ever had a Swatch Watch. Nope. > > >>You actually spent countless hours trying to perfect the care-bear > > >>stare. Nope. > > >>You had a crush on one of the Coreys (Haim or Feldman). Who? > > >>You remember when Saturday Night Live was funny. Nope. > > >>You had WonderWoman or Superman underoos. I never wore underoos. At age 5, I saw a commercial for them where kids put on underoos and turned into the characters on the underwear and thought they were really cool. When mom told me that they didn't work like they did on TV, I started boycotting them... > > >>You wanted to be The Hulk for Halloween. That was one of the choices I considered one year. > > >>You Believed that "By the power of Greyskull, you HAD the power!" Definately. Although I wouldn't have been an idiot like He-Man and rescued Skeletor... > > >>You thought that Transformers were more than meets the eye. Yep. > > >>You know what a "Whammee" is. ("No Whammy, no whammy, stop!!") Nope. > > >>Partying "like it's 1999" seemed SO far away. > > hmmm... gotta comment on this one. > > The actual song here ( my the artist ) refers to a huge party in (late ) > 1999 - as it is 2000 and a new mellenium is about to begin, therefor > deserves this AWESOME party. > > sorry guys , but 2000 IS NOT ( and never will be ) the start of the new > Mellenium - it is the LAST year of the 20th century. > > ( sorry -pet peeve of mine, see ads and stuff with this incorrect reference > all the time and it bugs the ^&(*& out of me ) You are absolutely correct. For 2000 to be the start of the 21st century, our calendar would have to start with the year 0 Anno Domini, which is just silly. > > > >> If you can identify with at least half of this list then you, > > >>My friend, are a "Child of the 80's." Well, no one can dispute the fact that I was a child IN the 80s. :-) -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.26 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: FYI-New Hasbro Web Site Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:01:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain www.hasbrocollectors.com Will arrive on November 10th. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.27 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: RE: 80s Children Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:08:52 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> > >>You know what a "burnout" is. >Eric's> when some people could smoke in school or were loosers anyway. > I imagine ( sadly ) that those are still around schoold today. >> > >>You can name at least half of the members of the elite "Brat Pack." >> >> can't do that either. >> >Eric> Rob Lowe, Judd Nelson, Ally Sheedy, Demi Moore, Emelio >Estevez...St.ELMO'S FIRE anyone. hmm, I _DO_ remember the neat song from that but that's all. >> > >>You know where to go if you "wanna go where everybody knows your >> > >>name." >> >> Fraggle Rock, right ? >> >Eric> I hope you remember Cheers Nope - see comments on trashy shows elsewhere. >> > >>You know what "Sike" means. >> >> I thought it would be " psyche " ? >> >Eric> No, we couldn't spell psychology or psalms. pretty sad state of education then these days, eh ? Truth be told - in the 80's when I was in school - most everyone I knew could get Psi , and all correct as they were all X-Men and comics nuts. ( see comics did teach us something )8-) >> >> Rob who ? >> >Eric> He parodied that crime in Wayne's World that does not answer the question as I never saw Wynes world either, >Eric> Cheers, from the Brandon Tartikoff NBC days, see , another reference to trash TV. no wonder I do not recognize these. >> > >>You were led to believe that in the year 2000 we'd all be living on >> > >>the moon. >> >> never thought that - I was building rocket motors in the 80's too, >> sorry, >> to much of a realist to believe we're going back to the moon. >> >Eric> NASA and Reagan said we were... > were what ? Going to live on the Moon ? I must've missed that . >Eric? I has SW: TESB and Superman 2 >> > >>You have ever pondered why Smurfette was the ONLY female smurf. >> >> hmmm - true. allthough is she the only one, or are there others in the >> background - will have to go rent some Smurf tapes and check ..8-) >> >Eric: Smurfette was the only adult female. There was a child female Smurf. hmmm. I could have sworn ther were maybe some adult females in backgrounds or such with the kids.. hmmm... will now rent SMURFS for sure ... >> > >>You know what a Doozer is. >> >> nope. >> >Eric> That was Fragle Rock I knew Fraggle Rock was in here somewhere .. 8-) >> > >>You actually spent countless hours trying to perfect the care-bear >> > >>stare. >> >> can't say as I did . >> >Eric> I remember it. but did you TRY it ? > >> > >>You wanted to be The Hulk for Halloween. >> >> actually this is True ( HULK was my fave character and the only comic I >> still collect regularly ) >> >Eric> The CBS show was awesome. yep it was ..! >> > >>You Believed that "By the power of Greyskull, you HAD the power!" >> >> YOU GOT IT! >> >Eric> He-Man was silly. I agree with you there, but it IS something we grew up on and remember. >> > >>You know what a "Whammee" is. ("No Whammy, no whammy, stop!!") >> >> nope - I thought they made frisbees ? .. 8-) >> >Eric> The game show "Press Your Luck" never watched game shows ( I did / do have a life ) > >> not sure if that is half, so am I a ' child of the corn..er, sorry 80's >> ? >Eric> This was corny....I feel slightly effeminate as well after knowing >all of this stuff... > effeminate, Eric ? nah, just OLD . - rocketeer - --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.28 --------------- From: Grendel346@aol.com Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:43:58 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/30/98 5:17:27 AM !!!First Boot!!!, klacoste@bigfoot.com writes: << I noticed the mention of GI Joe 2000 on Zartan's Domain while checking out the comic info. The thing that really got my attention was the comment about less articulation to keep production costs down. Now don't get me wrong, I like Star Wars and they have some really cool characters, but I don't bother picking up the figures for this reason alone. I'd really prefer to see the high-quality figures we know they are capable of and pay an extra buck or two. I was just wondering what all my listmates thought of this. PS: Can somebody please inform me as to what POTF stands for! Kevin LaCoste klacoste@bigfoot.com >> I will buy NO GIJoe toys that are not directly compatible with my existing figures. Size and articulation must match or we are just talking about more "Extreme" crap no matter what characters were used. My two cents. Grendel --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.29 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: 80s Children Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:50:05 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Eric: Smurfette was the only adult female. There was a child female Smurf. hmmm. I could have sworn they were maybe some adult females in backgrounds or such with the kids.. hmmm... will now rent SMURFS for sure ... >> It was always clear to me that all of the other Smurfs were male, and Smurfette was the only female. All of the Smurfs called the old smurf 'Pappa'......including Smurfette. Humm. Kinda gross...but maybe not so bad 'cause we all know the two smurfed only once in a blue moon to reproduce. Geez...i'd better call a shrink if i keep this up :P --Warrior Smurf "Go smurf yourself." --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n732.30 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: 80s Children Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:18:35 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/30/98 7:07:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, BADSCNAME@aol.com writes: << It was always clear to me that all of the other Smurfs were male, and Smurfette was the only female. All of the Smurfs called the old smurf 'Pappa'......including Smurfette. Humm. Kinda gross...but maybe not so bad 'cause we all know the two smurfed only once in a blue moon to reproduce. Geez...i'd better call a shrink if i keep this up :P >> Well, in the cartoon, Smurfette was actually created by Gargamel, had twiggy black hair, and was under a spell to hurt the other Smurfs. Soon she defeated his control, and Papa Smurf made he one of the family... later in the series, smurfs like Baby, and the Smurflings, and Grandpa Smurf proved that Smurfs werent born thru "smurfing" as you put it. straight-edge --------------- END gijoe.v001.n732 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n733 -------------- 001 - GITrekker@aol.com - Re: GIJoe 2000 002 - BADSCNAME@aol.com - Re: 80s Children 003 - Adam Casey > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.3 --------------- From: Adam Casey Subject: Re: 80s Children Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 23:09:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810310359.TAA20643@lists1.best.com> So, the reproduced by cell division? Abiogenesis? Cloned from history's greatest cartoon characters such as He-Man, Popeye, Lionheart, and Duke (and when they loose some DNA, they have to use Mighty Mouse's DNA, thus giving the Smurfs their size)? And that's another thing. You spell 'knife' plural as 'knives', 'theif' plural as 'theives', so why not 'Smurf' plural as 'Smurves'? BADSCNAME@aol.com wrote: > Alrighty then....i stand corrected! I never did have any real knowleadge of > Smurf lore. I just like to go around telling people to go smurf an egg. > Ahhh...nothin' like being proven a fool in front of hundreds of listfolk ;) > --Warrior Smurf > > << Well, in the cartoon, Smurfette was actually created by Gargamel, had > twiggy > black hair, and was under a spell to hurt the other Smurfs. > Soon she defeated his control, and Papa Smurf made he one of the family... > later in the series, smurfs like Baby, and the Smurflings, and Grandpa Smurf > proved that Smurfs werent born thru "smurfing" as you put it. > straight-edge >> --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.4 --------------- From: Corey & Angela Stinson Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 23:06:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810302345.PAA14414@lists1.best.com> At 06:43 PM 10/30/98 EST, you wrote: >I will buy NO GIJoe toys that are not directly compatible with my existing >figures. Size and articulation must match or we are just talking about more >"Extreme" crap no matter what characters were used. My two cents. > >Grendel Agreed, and everyone should recognize that even if Hasbro "keeps down production costs" by moving GI Joe into a POTF2-style format you can be assured that you will still be paying the same if not more per figure. Considering the rate of inflation between 1994 (GI Joes were ~$3.25) and year 2000 barring extraordinary circumstances a fully-articulated GI Joe should cost no more than $4 suggested retail. If Hasbro puts out POTF2-style GI Joe you're still very likely to be paying that $4. Hasbro won't be passing along any savings to the consumer- and quality will take another nosedive. Just something to think about... -- _________________________________________________________________________ // Corey Stinson || stinson@anet-stl.com \\ \\ Systems Programmer || corey@masterclock.com // // Real-Time Applications & Embedded Systems || \\ \\ GUI Application Development || // // World Wide Web & CGI Development || \\ \\ C/C++/Visual C++ (MFC)/Assembler || // // DOS/Windows 3.x '95 NT/Netware/Un*x || \\ \\ ------------------------------------------++----------------------------// // No Love Stronger / No Pain Greater / No Hate Deeper / The Church Within \\ \\____- The Obsessed ______________________________________________________// --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.5 --------------- From: klacoste@bigfoot.com (Kevin LaCoste) Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:26:23 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" (Snip some of Timmer Auto's comments...) >I think the main reason for this is because there will be new >Star Wars figures coming out (because of the new movies) >and it's better/cheaper for them to have all action figures be >the same design. > Just a comment on all action figures being the same design: I've often thought of this and I would be picking up Star Wars figures left and right if they were done in the same style as GI Joe. Imagine how cool it would be to have all your fav figures from different lines all done to the GI Joe speck. Droool... Oh yeah, somebody recently posted their URL for a new Joe page with customs on it. Could you please re-post the URL? I seem to remember people liked what they saw. Where is that Solid Snake custom? Kevin LaCoste klacoste@bigfoot.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.6 --------------- From: Calvin Woo Subject: Skystriker Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 01:41:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810200603.XAA27862@lists1.best.com> Hi, I was just wondering if anyone had the blueprints for the Skystriker? I just got a Skystriker that didn't have the stickers applied yet and I was wondering if someone would be kind enough to scan me the part of the blueprints that tell you where to put the stickers. I'd really appreciate any help. If you have it, email me privately. Thanks Calvin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.7 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:17:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Kevin LaCoste Aan: gijoe@lists.best.com Datum: zaterdag 31 oktober 1998 6:55 Onderwerp: Re: GI Joe 2000? >(Snip some of Timmer Auto's comments...) > >>I think the main reason for this is because there will be new >>Star Wars figures coming out (because of the new movies) >>and it's better/cheaper for them to have all action figures be >>the same design. >> > >Just a comment on all action figures being the same design: I've often >thought of this and I would be picking up Star Wars figures left and right >if they were done in the same style as GI Joe. Imagine how cool it would be >to have all your fav figures from different lines all done to the GI Joe >speck. Droool... > Yeah, I remember first seeing Star Wars figures when I was a kid and I thought "Cool,they're just like GIJOE!",then I took a closer look and realised they couldn't move like joes. As a kid I have often cursed the manufacturer of STW for this! This was also the reason that I've NEVER bought STW figures. Well,Thomas has said there won't be any new figures in 99, Ah well,it'll probably take me a year anyway to pick up all 98 vehicles and 97 stuff I don't have(and that I like) yet... Maybe we'll see new joes in the year 2000 OR maybe we'll have to wait for the next millenium... Tim PS did anybody ever think that we'd still be buying joes in stores in 2000?? When I was first buying joes (1986) 2000 seemed a lifetime away... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.8 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 07:31:01 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/31/98 12:24:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, stinson@anet- stl.com writes: << Agreed, and everyone should recognize that even if Hasbro "keeps down production costs" by moving GI Joe into a POTF2-style format you can be assured that you will still be paying the same if not more per figure. Considering the rate of inflation between 1994 (GI Joes were ~$3.25) and year 2000 barring extraordinary circumstances a fully-articulated GI Joe should cost no more than $4 suggested retail. If Hasbro puts out POTF2-style GI Joe you're still very likely to be paying that $4. Hasbro won't be passing along any savings to the consumer- and quality will take another nosedive. Just something to think about... >> Ha! 4 dollars for a toy now-a-days is wholly unrealistic. Why would Hasbro make two very similar lines, and sell one for four dollars, and another for six. Sadly, we'll prolly be paying at least 5 dollars (since Hasbro doesn't have to pay royalties for Joe), but I wouldn't be suprised if there were a six dollar price tag on these new guys.. if this is more than a rumor.. sXe --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.9 --------------- From: "Jody Hewitt" Subject: RE: GI Joe 2000? Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 08:16:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <199810310527.VAA14902@lists1.best.com> http://members.tripod.com/EVILFACE/GI%20Joe.htm This link was posted by Evilface near the beginning of last week. I think it's the one you're looking for. Later. > -----Original Message----- > From: gijoe-errors@lists.best.com [mailto:gijoe-errors@lists.best.com]On > Behalf Of Kevin LaCoste > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 1998 12:26 AM > To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? > > > (Snip some of Timmer Auto's comments...) > > >I think the main reason for this is because there will be new > >Star Wars figures coming out (because of the new movies) > >and it's better/cheaper for them to have all action figures be > >the same design. > > > > Just a comment on all action figures being the same design: I've often > thought of this and I would be picking up Star Wars figures left and right > if they were done in the same style as GI Joe. Imagine how cool > it would be > to have all your fav figures from different lines all done to the GI Joe > speck. Droool... > > Oh yeah, somebody recently posted their URL for a new Joe page > with customs > on it. Could you please re-post the URL? I seem to remember people liked > what they saw. Where is that Solid Snake custom? > > Kevin LaCoste > klacoste@bigfoot.com > > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.10 --------------- From: ralarcon@skyinet.net Subject: Stealth Conditions Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:26:22 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In-Reply-To: <199810310021.QAA15498@lists1.best.com> Hi again, I was able to examine a sample of the MIB Stealths from the stocks. of course, the jet itself is very mint. Everything is still sealed in the plastic bags. The Box is yellowed due to age and the pilot is damaged bec of the broken metal "hanger" that joins the 2 legs to the body. Everything else is mint. Even the decals are ok. I guess the MIB vehicles will vary in condition, & will depend on how it was originally shipped from Hasbro. MOst are sealed but the factory seals are weak from age. The barracudas are running out fast. Well, that's it for now. Please finalise the want lists & back up lists and Send 'em to Al :) I plan to go there and verify them myself this coming week. Lastly, Please LMK whether the handling costs are acceptable before I go there. Necessary, I'm afraid, bec of the long distance :( Thanks A Lot ! Good Luck, Richard --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.11 --------------- From: EVILFACE74@aol.com Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 11:32:26 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Oh yeah, somebody recently posted their URL for a new Joe page with customs on it. Could you please re-post the URL? I seem to remember people liked what they saw. Where is that Solid Snake custom? >> I think your talking about my site. Check it out. Thanx >=) EVILFACE http://members.tripod.com/EVILFACE/Home.htm --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.12 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: hi, I'm new here ^^ Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 11:08:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello! I just thought I'd introduce myself here... I just signed up yesturday, but some of you may already know me. As Bullet or Jinx... yes, I'm the co author of the rambles on Zartan's Domain. I also play Jinx in #Joe_RPG. uh, I just have a few things to say I love Joe, obviously, or I wouldn't be here would I? I'm more into the comic, but I like the toys and am glad that I am lucky enough to be in Canada (Saskatchewan actually) and therefore am able to get the 98's if I wanna... I love the comic cuz we never had cable, so we didn't get the toon, and as I'm the only girl, I never got the Joe toys, my older brothers did. but I would sneak into their rooms and steal their Joes when I was sick. It's great knowing that I'm not the only person who loved the Joes. uh, I hope that I can have fun with ya guys. oh btw: the newest ramble is up due to technical difficulties, the link from Zartan's Domain has dissappeared, along with some odf the original rambles, but we are working on revivng them, and Rod should get the link up again soon meanwhile, check it out at http://www2.crosswinds.net/saskatoon/~lynx ENJOY and until next time, BETTER BEER! er... YO JOE! Shauna "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hooper --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.13 --------------- From: Zzarana@aol.com Subject: Re: hi, I'm new here ^^ Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:41:30 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi shauna, Welcome to the list. I hope you like it here, it isn't as crazy as the chat or RPG but it always gets interesting when people fight. People get nasty but it isn't personal. If someone gives you hell give it back, why I am telling you this, who' knows 'cause I am sure you will give it. So enjoy yourself and remember we want your opinion, it adds to the list. Jenn@ ~Zzarana --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.14 --------------- From: vachon@mail.swbell.net Subject: customs Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:22:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit could someone repost the addy for EVILFACE's custom page? I accidentally deleted it before I could check it out. thanks, Degenerate --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.15 --------------- From: Rod Pellegrini Subject: RE: Gagarin, Glenn and Shepard Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:10:21 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Rocketeer wrote: << Yuri Gagarin WAS the first man in space - on a suborbitsl flight ' lob' the same as Shepard and Gus Grissom. Yuri did not orbit on the first flight and was there before Shepard ( as much as we americans do not want to think ' they' beat us to space ) - rocketeer ->> I stand corrected, Rockhammer (who took the previous info off the top of his head--which had been there since 4th grade, and therefore got messed up ;) ) (the info, not my head :) ) KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // "ROCK CHALK JAYHAWKS" KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU ////////////////////////////////////////// KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Rod A. Pellegrini KKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Jayhawks rule!!!!! KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // rodpelle@falcon.cc.ukans.edu KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // Live long and prosper KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // May the force be with you --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.16 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: evil's evil site Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:21:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Check out his site folks. I think he has some really great customs up there, especially the ones of Mad Max and Snake. -John At 11:32 AM 10/31/98 EST, you wrote: >I think your talking about my site. Check it out. Thanx >=) > >EVILFACE > >http://members.tripod.com/EVILFACE/Home.htm > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.17 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Before the new series... Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:21:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:23 AM 10/30/98 -0800, you wrote: >So, guys, what do you think of that setup? Excellent. I think Larry Hama will come up with something similar. The joes will be scattered into the mainstream U.S. military. Some at desks, maybe Stalker will be working as a D.I. and Snakes will probably be doing dirty deeds for the CIA somewheres. Then Cobra reappears somewhere, maybe they take over Cobra Island again or CC unleashes an army of Fred clones to work as door to door salesmen, the bastard! And the gang gets back together. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.18 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: 80s Children Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:21:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:08 PM 10/30/98 -0600, you wrote: > see , another reference to trash TV. no wonder I do not recognize these. Trash TV. What do you think of the GI Joe saga? The cartoon and comic are nothing more than trashy toy commericals! It was SELL SELL SELL with those and if they were any good then it was a bonus because it meant their target market would look at those things over and over again and get worked up to buy more! If the toy lasted for more than 2 years then it was a fluke which the company could milk for all its worth with t-shirts, colouring books, underoos, etc. GI Joe the Real American Hero is the result of trashy American capitalism. The fact that any of us would still like it after all these years was not in Hasbro's plan. Joe was meant to be consumed and thrown away like a piece of trash. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.19 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: A Real American Hero Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:21:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:25 AM 10/30/98 -0500, you wrote: >> I dunno about him being an international hero, Yury Gagarin from the good >> old USSR was the fist man in space, Glenn is only second best I'm afraid. > >True, but Gagarin was there for 2 hours. Glenn made it there about 4 hours. An extra two hours. That's kinda like taking away Roger Maris's or Mark Mcguire's record because they had more games to play than Ruth. >And I might add that I only see 13 stripes on the moon. Yeah the moon landing was awesome, a gold medal amongst a pile of silvers. I'll I can say is "Get your ass to Mars." I've got nothing against Glenn going back in space. Anyone who has been in outer space is a pretty cool dude IMO but the truth is that the Soviet Union made a lot of important firsts in the space race using inferior technology, those cosmonauts deserve some credit. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.20 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:21:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:06 PM 10/30/98 -0600, you wrote: >Considering the rate of inflation between 1994 (GI Joes were ~$3.25) and >year 2000 barring extraordinary circumstances a fully-articulated GI Joe >should cost no more than $4 suggested retail. If Hasbro puts out >POTF2-style GI Joe you're still very likely to be paying that $4. Hasbro >won't be passing along any savings to the consumer- and quality will take >another nosedive. Just something to think about... I think the important thing to remember about Star Wars is that it is a very expensive license to aquire. GI Joe being owned by Hasbro should be a cheaper toyline to sell. But because Kenner and Hasbro are now a united company Hasbro may not want to create an action figure line to compete with Star Wars because they paid so much to Lucasfilm for the rights to the new movies. I believe that is the main reason why GI Joe is dead as a mainstream toyline for the next few years. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.21 --------------- From: Rod Pellegrini Subject: Re: 80s Children Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:23:27 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have three more for you: 1. You know that before "walkmans" there were "Personal Stereos" 2. You still have your old Jean Jacket, which has so many patches on it you can hardly see the denim 3. You own, or owned at one time, a Personal Stereo that run on 4 or more AA CELLS Rockhammer KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // "ROCK CHALK JAYHAWKS" KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU ////////////////////////////////////////// KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Rod A. Pellegrini KKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Jayhawks rule!!!!! KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // rodpelle@falcon.cc.ukans.edu KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // Live long and prosper KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // May the force be with you --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.22 --------------- From: Rod Pellegrini Subject: RE: 80's children Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:31:06 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII <<> > >>You HAD to have your MTV. Was never a fan of modern music. Although I've recently started to develop an appreciation for some of it.>> I don't like most (and I MEAN MOST), but just the same, isn't that a reference to "Money for Nothing"? Y'know, Dire Straights? (That's one of the two songs by them I actually love). << > > >>You know the profound meaning of "Wax on, Wax off." This sounds like a Turtle Wax ad.>> Karate Kid, of course. C'mon!!! "Walk left, you're fine. Walk right, you're fine. Walk middle.... Squeezed like grape!" Rockhammer KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // "ROCK CHALK JAYHAWKS" KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU ////////////////////////////////////////// KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Rod A. Pellegrini KKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Jayhawks rule!!!!! KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // rodpelle@falcon.cc.ukans.edu KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // Live long and prosper KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // May the force be with you --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.23 --------------- From: Rod Pellegrini Subject: RE: 80's children Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:40:24 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Rottweiler wrote: <<> > >>You have ever pondered why Smurfette was the ONLY female smurf. Yes. Obviously it was tokenism (one wonders why there wasn't a black Smurf), but I didn't know that at the time.>> What? The smurfs were all BLUE fer Christ's sake! I get tired of seeing poeople turn everything into a racial argument. You would have more grounds to argue that the smurfs were communist propaganda than to argue they were racist. But, this is not the list for that discussion... Rockhammer KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // "ROCK CHALK JAYHAWKS" KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU ////////////////////////////////////////// KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Rod A. Pellegrini KKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Jayhawks rule!!!!! KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // rodpelle@falcon.cc.ukans.edu KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // Live long and prosper KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // May the force be with you --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.24 --------------- From: Scott Guthrie Subject: Transformers Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 16:55:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <199810310021.QAA15498@lists1.best.com> In-Reply-To: <199810311409.GAA02792@lists1.best.com> So any news on the fax? And how am I doing this? You said I'd go through a friend of yours. Scott --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.25 --------------- From: Scott Guthrie Subject: Re: Transformers Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 17:05:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <199810311409.GAA02792@lists1.best.com> <199810310021.QAA15498@lists1.best.com> In-Reply-To: <199810312153.NAA09305@lists1.best.com> OOpps... meant that to be private --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.26 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: Before the new series... Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:20:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810312123.NAA28831@lists1.best.com> John A Woods wrote: > > CC unleashes an army of Fred clones to work > as door to door salesmen, Confusing the HECK out of Wilma. > > -John -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.27 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: 80's children Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:47:54 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810312141.NAA05123@lists1.best.com> Rod Pellegrini wrote: > > Rottweiler wrote: > > <<> > >>You have ever pondered why Smurfette was the ONLY female smurf. > > Yes. Obviously it was tokenism (one wonders why there wasn't a black > Smurf), but I didn't know that at the time.>> > > What? The smurfs were all BLUE fer Christ's sake! I get tired of seeing > poeople turn everything into a racial argument. I'm not turning it into a racial argument, I'm just saying that if a show has just one female character, they usually have just one black character too. It's called tokenism. > You would have more > grounds to argue that the smurfs were communist propaganda than to argue > they were racist. They WERE communist propaganda! To wit: With few notable exceptions, all aspects of Smurf life were highly regulated. The rank and file Smurfs lived in the same dwelling, wearing the same clothing, eating the same food. All farming, particularly that of the Smurfberry Bushes was collectivized. All proceeds were distributed equally among all Smurfs regardless of work. The despotocal rule of Papa Smurf (who wore red) was based on his role as father figure to the Smurf Nation. It's positively Orwellian. And the Smurf version of goodspeak was more insidious than any Orwell could have dreamed of. Economy of language to the point where all communication of ideas deemed un-Smurfy became impossible. There were no names. Each Smurf was given a work designation by which they were to be identified. Gargamel's evil stemmed from his capitalist desire to turn the Smurfs into gold. You'll also notice that there was no disease, war or conflict unless brought about by The Capitalist fallguy of Gargamel. > But, this is not the list for that discussion... Oops. > > Rockhammer -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.28 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: 80's children Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:00:29 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/31/98 5:57:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, crazyguy@cnnw.net writes: << I'm not turning it into a racial argument, I'm just saying that if a show has just one female character, they usually have just one black character too. It's called tokenism. >> But do you agree that this show could not possibly have produced that kind of tolkenism? Cuz your earlier argument can be misconstrued the other way. sXe --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.29 --------------- From: Corey & Angela Stinson Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 17:32:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810312123.NAA28849@lists1.best.com> At 01:21 PM 10/31/98 -0800, you wrote: > >I think the important thing to remember about Star Wars is that it is a very >expensive license to aquire. GI Joe being owned by Hasbro should be a >cheaper toyline to sell. But because Kenner and Hasbro are now a united >company Hasbro may not want to create an action figure line to compete with >Star Wars because they paid so much to Lucasfilm for the rights to the new >movies. I believe that is the main reason why GI Joe is dead as a mainstream >toyline for the next few years. > >-John Agreed! And it's funny that a solid majority of people who answered a question similar to this on a survey I took a few years ago thought that POTF2 had little if anything to do with GI Joe's cancellation. Hmm... -- _________________________________________________________________________ // Corey Stinson || stinson@anet-stl.com \\ \\ Systems Programmer || corey@masterclock.com // // Real-Time Applications & Embedded Systems || \\ \\ GUI Application Development || // // World Wide Web & CGI Development || \\ \\ C/C++/Visual C++ (MFC)/Assembler || // // DOS/Windows 3.x '95 NT/Netware/Un*x || \\ \\ ------------------------------------------++----------------------------// // No Love Stronger / No Pain Greater / No Hate Deeper / The Church Within \\ \\____- The Obsessed ______________________________________________________// --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n733.30 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:44:10 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << I believe that is the main reason why GI Joe is dead as a mainstream toyline for the next few years. >> Few years? I don't think Star Wars will EVER die out now! Enough buzz was created a couple years ago to spawn a new toyline even without a movie. Star Wars will be the Disney for the new millennium. God would live in fear if there was a merger.... --Goofbacca --------------- END gijoe.v001.n733 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n734 -------------- 001 - BADSCNAME@aol.com - Re: GI Joe 2000? 002 - Rottweiler > It's a commie plot i tell you! --Red Scared --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.2 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:59:06 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810312347.PAA19802@lists1.best.com> BADSCNAME@aol.com wrote: > > << Agreed! And it's funny that a solid majority of people who answered a > question similar to this on a survey I took a few years ago thought that > POTF2 had little if anything to do with GI Joe's cancellation. Hmm.. >> > > It's a commie plot i tell you! > --Red Scared Thank you, Senator McCarthy... -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.3 --------------- From: Rod Pellegrini Subject: RE: 80's childs Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:21:30 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Rotty wrote: <> No, no, there we go again. The Smurfs (although mythical or not real) are NOT humans. It is perfectly plausible to find a particular species that happens to have no color skin variation. Blue does not equal white, or black, or yellow, or whatever other color you can equal to a race. They're just blue. If we ever happen to contact an alien race, and they happen to be all grey, are we gonna say that they are racist, or that the "tokenism" concept should apply to them, if it just happened to be that no alien in their species is green? How could there be a token, a representation of something, if that something just doesn't exist in a particular setting? Besides, why are you associating blue with white? Who says that blue isn't black, for that matter? Maybe the tokenism (or lack thereof) as you call it, is that there are no white smurfs? Frankly, this is just silly to me. They're blue. Not white, not black, not yellow, not anything else. Blue. Period. It means nothing. They just don't happen to have skin color variation, making all of them majority and a minority non-existant. And their majority would be blue. Now, the smurfette debate is something else... As for the communist propaganda bit, I see how that would be possible, that's why I said you could make a better case for that than for the race/black-smurf-lacking bit. But even if so, I think calling the smurfs communist propaganda is reaching a little bit... but as I said, it doesn't sound THAT far out. Rockhammer KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // "ROCK CHALK JAYHAWKS" KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU ////////////////////////////////////////// KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Rod A. Pellegrini KKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Jayhawks rule!!!!! KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // rodpelle@falcon.cc.ukans.edu KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // Live long and prosper KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // May the force be with you --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.4 --------------- From: David Thornton Subject: Joe Books in January Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:25:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" While pulling together my January order from the Previews comics catalog, I noticed that on page 291 two G.I.Joe books were listed in the Books section. Below is all the info for those who want to check out Amazon.com around Jan. or to pester your local comic book dealer into ordering them for you. TITLE: GI Joe Guide to Collecting and Completing Vol. 1 by James DeSimone A "user-friendly" GI Joe reference guide for identifying the popular 3 3/4" and 12" GI Joes from the 80s and early 90s, and their uniforms and accessories. Features hundreds of photographs of Joes and sets, out of package and photographed so you can clearly see them all! Perfect for organizing your collection! Indexed. (DeSimone Books) (0-963595-60-1) SC 24 pgs $12.00 (US) TITLE: GI Joe Guide to Collecting and Completing Vol. 2 by James DeSimone Picking up where volume 1 left off, this full-color GI Joe reference guide continues to identify the popular 3 3/4" and 12" GI Joes from the early 90s, and their uniforms and accessories. The detailed guide also offers interesting articles about the GI Joe comic book line and animated series. And like Volume 1, it also features hundreds of photographs of Joes and sets, out of package and photographed so you can clearly see them all! Perfect for organizing your collection! Indexed. (DeSimone Books) (NO ISBN LISTED) SC 48 pgs $12.00 (US) It's strange that for double the number of pages for Vol 2 that the price doesn't change. oh, well. Enjoy, David "Quick Kick" Thornton --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.5 --------------- From: "Derek R. Anderson" Subject: New to List Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:41:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810312345.PAA19013@lists1.best.com> Hello everyone, I am new to the list, I just recieved my first digest. First, does anyone know how I can switch to getting the mail a letter at a time instead of digest??? To give some background on myself, I grew up playing with Star Wars and GI joe figures, now as an Adult I am trying to collect them all back... I have a complete SW Vintage Set, as well as all of the new figures, and I am about helf done collection the 3.75" GI Joe line. My son and I have alot of fun with the collecting... >He said that the 1998 G.I.Joe prodict line will continue to ship into 1999, >but >no new product is being planned beyond that. I only have a few of the new reissue figures, it is a little hard for me since I do not collect vehicles, only figures. Is there anyone out there that would be interested in getting some extra vehicles without the figures? Maybe someone out there who customizes??? >>I will buy NO GIJoe toys that are not directly compatible with my existing >>figures. Size and articulation must match or we are just talking about more >>"Extreme" crap no matter what characters were used. My two cents. Same with me on that statement. I only collect the Joes that are 3.75" and have the same size as the originals. I do NOT get any of the Joe Extreme, or the Sgt. Savage or whatever it was that was about a half inch larger... > Agreed, and everyone should recognize that even if Hasbro "keeps down >production costs" by moving GI Joe into a POTF2-style format you can be >assured that you will still be paying the same if not more per figure. >Considering the rate of inflation between 1994 (GI Joes were ~$3.25) and >year 2000 barring extraordinary circumstances a fully-articulated GI Joe >should cost no more than $4 suggested retail. If Hasbro puts out >POTF2-style GI Joe you're still very likely to be paying that $4. Hasbro >won't be passing along any savings to the consumer- and quality will take >another nosedive. Just something to think about... I would not *mind* having a new era of joes, the same size, but sculpted with less articulation like the POTF2 line, however, I would rather that any new Joes in the future would keep the same standard for articualtion. >Few years? I don't think Star Wars will EVER die out now! Enough buzz was >created a couple years ago to spawn a new toyline even without a movie. Star >Wars will be the Disney for the new millennium. God would live in fear if >there was a merger.... I think that we will have at least another 6 years of solid Star Wars toys, at least a year or two beyond the third new movie. There is just way to much money to be made there to not do this! Thats it for my first letter to this list... Derek... Derek R. Anderson Active Imagination Art Studios http://www.netxp.com/aias AOL IM: aiasderek (904) 788-2586 FAX: (904) 788-5414 --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.6 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Joe Books in January Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:48:07 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/31/98 7:45:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, pfsman@ix.netcom.com writes: << It's strange that for double the number of pages for Vol 2 that the price doesn't change. >> Actually, I'm looking at these two guides right now, and Vol I is pages 1-24, and Vol 2 is 25-48.. theres 24 pages in each book, its just two parts.. Desimone really !@#$ed up there. ;-) Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.7 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: 80s Children Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:54:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810312123.NAA28837@lists1.best.com> Do I sense a little bitterness? Or did I miss something? let's face it, we live in a capitalist society. so let's milk it for all it's worth! COBRA!!!!!!!! Shauna At 01:21 PM 31/10/98 -0800, you wrote: >At 03:08 PM 10/30/98 -0600, you wrote: > >> see , another reference to trash TV. no wonder I do not recognize these. > > >Trash TV. What do you think of the GI Joe saga? The cartoon and comic are >nothing more than trashy toy commericals! It was SELL SELL SELL with those >and if they were any good then it was a bonus because it meant their target >market would look at those things over and over again and get worked up to >buy more! If the toy lasted for more than 2 years then it was a fluke which >the company could milk for all its worth with t-shirts, colouring books, >underoos, etc. GI Joe the Real American Hero is the result of trashy >American capitalism. The fact that any of us would still like it after all >these years was not in Hasbro's plan. Joe was meant to be consumed and >thrown away like a piece of trash. > >-John > > > "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hooper --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.8 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Joe Books in January Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:14:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >It's strange that for double the number of pages for Vol 2 that the price >doesn't change. Its strange that at 24 to 48 pages that they don't make just one book, or make the two books focus on RAH and 12" joe seperatly. I'm assuming these books will cover the 90s collector figures beyond the HOF figures. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.9 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:14:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:44 PM 10/31/98 EST, you wrote: ><< I believe that is the main reason why GI Joe is dead as a mainstream > toyline for the next few years. >> > >Few years? I don't think Star Wars will EVER die out now! Enough buzz was >created a couple years ago to spawn a new toyline even without a movie. Star >Wars will be the Disney for the new millennium. God would live in fear if >there was a merger.... Well if the prequels blow... Remember how dead Star Wars was from 84-94? If there is no hype there is no interest in Star Wars. New SW toys will last until the last new movie is out. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.10 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Joe Books in January Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:23:35 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/31/98 9:20:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, woods01@islandnet.com writes: << Its strange that at 24 to 48 pages that they don't make just one book, or make the two books focus on RAH and 12" joe seperatly. I'm assuming these books will cover the 90s collector figures beyond the HOF figures. >> The latest figures in the second volume were the 1994 Commemorative Figures, and convention exclusives. None of the 1995-98 stuff is in there. I believe the first one was based on figures produced up till the point the book was put out... sXe --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.11 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: RE: 80's childs Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:04:55 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii < smurfs balue vs. black racism comments snipped > And I agree with Rockhammer 110 %. >As for the communist propaganda bit, I see how that would be possible, >that's why I said you could make a better case for that than for the >race/black-smurf-lacking bit. But even if so, I think calling the smurfs >communist propaganda is reaching a little bit... but as I said, it doesn't >sound THAT far out. OK - now here, whethe we want to believe / admit it or not . This is a point. What it ammounts to is ' desensitization' of the youth of America ( and the world, I suppose ). I know this has been said by many religious groups, self appointed guardians, and etc. but in and of itself it's true. Smurfs had LOTS of communist undertones. HE MAN had magic / sorcery. Sailor Moon ( which I love ) has TONS of new age and pagan plotlines / backgrounds. The problem ( if you will ) here is the impact that these have on children ( including ourselves ). I have seen notes on this list from people who said they did indeed go out and fing the I-Ching due to Larry's writings. maybe that is ' evil' ( by some viewpoints ), maybe it's just plain g fun, etc. but there will allways be some ' special interest group' that is against such things. Personally, I think it's cool to get prompted to actualy go find the Iching or such and to learn , just worries me if kids took it too seriously. Anyways, enough of the propaganda session - back to the Joes . - rocketeer - --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.12 --------------- From: "man9" Subject: Re: 80's childs Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 09:40:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Personally, I think it's cool to get prompted to actualy go find the >Iching or such and to learn , just worries me if kids took it too >seriously. I have never *once* seen a kid take a cartoon too seriously. They see it for what it is: a cartoon. It's the parents that need to calm down. Shipwreck --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.13 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: 80's childs Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 10:08:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811011543.HAA04275@lists1.best.com> At 09:40 AM 01/11/98 -0600, you wrote: >> Personally, I think it's cool to get prompted to actualy go find the >>Iching or such and to learn , just worries me if kids took it too >>seriously. > >I have never *once* seen a kid take a cartoon too seriously. They see it >for what it is: a cartoon. It's the parents that need to calm down. > >Shipwreck > > Not to be annoying or anything, but I'd have to disagree to a point yes parents need to calm down a bit, but I HAVE seen kids take cartoons too seriously. My cousins son once tried t go down into the sewers to find the ninja turtles. that's a pretty scarey thought, you know But yes definitely, it's more parents faults for hving sticks up their @$$e$ ... Bullet "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hooper --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.14 --------------- From: GIJoe@aol.com Subject: Soldier Force Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:06:09 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/31/98 19:45:53 Eastern Standard Time, deroan@mindspring.com writes: << I would not *mind* having a new era of joes, the same size, but sculpted with less articulation like the POTF2 line, however, I would rather that any new Joes in the future would keep the same standard for articualtion. >> Derek, Welcome to the Joe list. As for Joes with Star Wars articulation, there is a new set of figures out, that I found at two stores, one is Laneco in Easton, PA, and the other was Kay Bee's Toy Distributors. They were $.99 for a single figure at Laneco, and $4.99 for the sets of six at KB. There are 6 figures, done in green camo colors and those same six done in black/silver. One is a near dead ringer for Iron Claw from the gijoe extreme set, and another looks similar to the Sgt Savage from the extreme lines cannon set. These figures will be the base for my 3-3/4 custom extreme figures. They have the articulation of the POTF minus the waist movement, and definitly look like they have been kennerized, but they look excellent next to joes. If any one is interested in seeing them, let me know, and I will scan them in and post them. Later John M. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.15 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Fwd: Video Games Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:10:45 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I got this from a buddy of mine today and thought you guys might get a chuckle out of it. - rocketeer - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 34 things I learned from video games 1.There is no problem that cannot be overcome by violence. 2.You can overcome most adversaries simply by having enough quarters. 3.If it moves, KILL IT! 4.Piloting any vehicle is simple and requires no training. 5.One lone "good guy" can defeat an indeterminate number of "bad guys." 6."Bad guys" move in predictable patterns. 7.Except for "bosses," most "bad guys" can be dispatched with one hit. 8.You often fare better against a large mob of "bad guys" then against a "boss" in one on one combat. 9"Bosses" always hire henchmen weaker then they are to do their 'muscle work'. If you see food lying on the ground, eat it. You can smash things and get away with it. Smashing things doesn't hurt. Many nice things are hidden inside other things. Cybernetics are our friends. When driving, you can knock other vehicles off the road and get away with it. If someone dies, they disappear. Money is frequently found lying on the streets. All shopkeepers carry high-tech weaponry. If you get mad enough, you can fight even better than normal. If it's on the ground, you should get it. Repulsive, ugly, cannabalistic, evil beings have just as much right to be loved as heroic fighters. The operation of a weapon is a simple and obvious procedure. You never run out of ammunition, just grenades. No matter how long you fight, you can always fight again. Death is reversible (but only for you!). Ninjas are common, and fight in public frequently. Whenever huge fat evil men are about to die, they begin flashing red or yellow. When you are born, you drop out of the sky (a stork?) and are completely invincible for a short time. Although the enemy always has more aircraft than you, they fly in elaborate patterns which make it easier for you to shoot them all down. All martial (marital?) arts women wear revealing clothes and have great bodies. All martial arts men have rippling muscles and angry expressions. The enemy always leaves weapons or powerups lying around for no reason other than so their bitter enemy can pick them up and defeat them with it. Shoot everything. If it blows up or dies, it was evil. If it doesn't, try and pick it up--- it was probably a powerup or bonus. Carpe diem! You only live three times! The most powerful fighters always wait until you have acheived a near-impossible, flawless win record and/or killed a certain number of opponents before they appear in your presence and beat the crap out of you. You sustain injury if you shoot innocents. 200 - 1 odds against you is NOT a problem. gang members frequently all look the same, and often have the same names. When racing vehicles, do not worry if your vehicle crashes and explodes. A new vehicle will appear in its place --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.16 --------------- From: vachon@mail.swbell.net Subject: Joe Roster Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 15:52:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ok I haven't been reading a lot of mail lately so I'm a little behind here. Anyway here's my 25 man roster. 1. Flint 2. Lady Jaye 3. Steeler 4. Cover girl 5. Tunnel Rat 6. wet-Suit 7. Torpedo 8. Roadblock 9. Lifeline 10. Shipwreck 11. Ace 12. Lift_ticket 13. Airborne 14. Cross-Country 15. Ripcord 16. Snow-Job 17. Clutch 18. Snake-Eyes 19. Scarlett 20. Falcon 21. Dusty 22. Storm-Shadow 23. Mainframe 24. Low-Light 25. Breaker and by the way I made a post awhile back asking if anyone knew whether or not the MK Sonya Blade figures were hard to find and never got any response other than someone talking about the oversized ones at Toys R Us. So I'm asking again :) thanks, Degenerate --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.17 --------------- From: Pawsha@aol.com Subject: Re: Video Games Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 18:01:23 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HAHAHAHAHA! Thanks! That was great! Josh Scott Pawsha@aol.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.18 --------------- From: "Jody Hewitt" Subject: RE: Joe Roster Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 18:04:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <199811012151.NAA06272@lists1.best.com> Greetings All! I've added the second half of my Abduction 3 3/4" story to my site. Please drop by and have a look. http://www.extensiveenterprises.com/crimsonguard/ Later. Jody Hewitt Curator/Webmaster ExtensiveEnterprises.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.19 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: Joe Roster Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:11:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: vachon@mail.swbell.net Aan: gijoe@lists.best.com Datum: zondag 1 november 1998 23:08 Onderwerp: Joe Roster >ok I haven't been reading a lot of mail lately so I'm a little behind >here. Anyway here's my 25 man roster. > >1. Flint >2. Lady Jaye >3. Steeler >4. Cover girl >5. Tunnel Rat >6. wet-Suit >7. Torpedo >8. Roadblock >9. Lifeline >10. Shipwreck >11. Ace >12. Lift_ticket >13. Airborne >14. Cross-Country >15. Ripcord >16. Snow-Job >17. Clutch >18. Snake-Eyes >19. Scarlett >20. Falcon >21. Dusty >22. Storm-Shadow >23. Mainframe >24. Low-Light >25. Breaker > >and by the way I made a post awhile back asking if anyone knew whether >or not the MK Sonya Blade figures were hard to find and never got any >response other than someone talking about the oversized ones at Toys R >Us. So I'm asking again :) > >thanks, > Degenerate > > About those oversized Sonja Blades... They are carded as "Mortal Combat Trilogy" figures and, in contrast to the older MK figures are as big as Sgt. Savage figures,aren't they? I ran into a set of these a while back,but didn't pick them up. Why oh why couldn't they have kept them 3.75 inch size like the first?!THAT way they would have been an awesome addition to my collection. Haven't they learned anything from the failing of Savage? Tim (a little bigger than 3.75 inch,but fully articulated) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.20 --------------- From: "Jody Hewitt" Subject: The Abduction Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 18:14:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <199811012307.PAA09172@lists1.best.com> Sorry about the repost - Wrong subject line.... ---------- Greetings All! I've added the second half of my Abduction 3 3/4" story to my site. Please drop by and have a look. http://www.extensiveenterprises.com/crimsonguard/ Later. Jody Hewitt Curator/Webmaster ExtensiveEnterprises.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n734.21 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: The Abduction Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 17:47:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <199811012307.PAA09172@lists1.best.com> In-Reply-To: <199811012317.PAA13693@lists1.best.com> WOW, that's cool work there Jody! Wish I had enough action figures to do that good story too At 06:14 PM 01/11/98 -0500, you wrote: >Sorry about the repost - Wrong subject line.... > >---------- > >Greetings All! > >I've added the second half of my Abduction 3 3/4" story to my site. > >Please drop by and have a look. >http://www.extensiveenterprises.com/crimsonguard/ > >Later. > >Jody Hewitt >Curator/Webmaster ExtensiveEnterprises.com > > "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hooper --------------- END gijoe.v001.n734 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n735 -------------- 001 - Corey & Angela Stinson Subject: Re: Soldier Force Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 18:45:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811012009.MAA16133@lists1.best.com> At 03:06 PM 11/1/98 EST, you wrote: >Derek, > >Welcome to the Joe list. As for Joes with Star Wars articulation, there is a >new set of figures out, that I found at two stores, one is Laneco in Easton, >PA, and the other was Kay Bee's Toy Distributors. They were $.99 for a single >figure at Laneco, and $4.99 for the sets of six at KB. There are 6 figures, >done in green camo colors and those same six done in black/silver. One is a >near dead ringer for Iron Claw from the gijoe extreme set, and another looks >similar to the Sgt Savage from the extreme lines cannon set. These figures >will be the base for my 3-3/4 custom extreme figures. They have the >articulation of the POTF minus the waist movement, and definitly look like >they have been kennerized, but they look excellent next to joes. If any one >is interested in seeing them, let me know, and I will scan them in and post >them. > >Later > >John M. These are also available at Dollar Tree dollar stores and Big Lots stores. There are three vehicles known to be available for the line- a motorcycle, a jeep, and a helicopter. The motorcycle is out of scale for the figures and not worth getting but the jeep and helicopter might very well be. I've only seen the motorcycle in the U.S. For $1/figure (or less in purchased in a set) you can't beat 'em. -- _________________________________________________________________________ // Corey Stinson || stinson@anet-stl.com \\ \\ Systems Programmer || corey@masterclock.com // // Real-Time Applications & Embedded Systems || \\ \\ GUI Application Development || // // World Wide Web & CGI Development || \\ \\ C/C++/Visual C++ (MFC)/Assembler || // // DOS/Windows 3.x '95 NT/Netware/Un*x || \\ \\ ------------------------------------------++----------------------------// // No Love Stronger / No Pain Greater / No Hate Deeper / The Church Within \\ \\____- The Obsessed ______________________________________________________// --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.2 --------------- From: SNARF5181@aol.com Subject: Re: 80s Children Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 20:59:12 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/30/98 6:29:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, rktmoose@ix.netcom.com writes: << >> > >>You wanted to be The Hulk for Halloween. >> >> actually this is True ( HULK was my fave character and the only comic I >> still collect regularly ) >> yeah but the "official" costume sucked it had the mask and a picture of the hulk on the shirt-- just like my orko costume --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.3 --------------- From: Grendel346@aol.com Subject: Re: GI Joe 2000? Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:00:18 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/31/98 11:53:08 PM !!!First Boot!!!, BADSCNAME@aol.com writes: << < I believe that is the main reason why GI Joe is dead as a mainstream toyline for the next few years. >> Few years? I don't think Star Wars will EVER die out now! Enough buzz was created a couple years ago to spawn a new toyline even without a movie. Star Wars will be the Disney for the new millennium. God would live in fear if there was a merger.... --Goofbacca >> Unless the new movies really suck which is possible you know. Grendel --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.4 --------------- From: Corey & Angela Stinson Subject: Filecards forsale (get free cards!) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 20:25:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey all, Thought I would pass along a special promotion going on at the Yo! Joe classifieds. Filecards available for sale- buy $25 worth and get $5 more free. Most are only $1 to begin with so this is an excellent way to complete all of your figures with filecards. Cards are available for virtually all of the 3 3/4" collection (82-94). Visit the Yo! Joe classifieds and click on the "filecards forsale" banner or jump directly to this URL: http://webusers.anet-stl.com/~stinson/adsys/classifieds/adhost/adfc.html Thanks for reading! -- _________________________________________________________________________ // Corey Stinson || stinson@anet-stl.com \\ \\ Systems Programmer || corey@masterclock.com // // Real-Time Applications & Embedded Systems || \\ \\ GUI Application Development || // // World Wide Web & CGI Development || \\ \\ C/C++/Visual C++ (MFC)/Assembler || // // DOS/Windows 3.x '95 NT/Netware/Un*x || \\ \\ ------------------------------------------++----------------------------// // No Love Stronger / No Pain Greater / No Hate Deeper / The Church Within \\ \\____- The Obsessed ______________________________________________________// --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.5 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: GI Joe vs Star Wars Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:31:59 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Unless the new movies really suck which is possible you know. Grendel >> Nah, i read in an interview with Steven Speilberg that he got a sneak peak at his buddy George's new movie. He was quoted exactly as stating "WOW!" and "OH MY GOD!". I'm not worried =) --Goofbacca --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.6 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: you people are all pessimists! Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 20:37:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" You know, everyone thinks that GI Joe will die. I don't think so. It's been around for how long? If you think back... as long as I can remember there has always been Joe I think it will survive. we just have to give it a chance, and support it, and pass our love to our children. YO JOE! Bullet "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hooper --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.7 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: you people are all pessimists! Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 22:08:54 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As long as the pompous arrogant fools in charge of the world believe toys are for babies, there will always be a danger to GIJoe. --POed for no good reason =) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.8 --------------- From: "Danielle N. Barese" Subject: I need some comics... Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 19:12:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thought this would be the best venue to bring this up... I need 8 issues of Joe to complete my collection (not including SM or EM)... I would be willing to purchase them at a fair price or I would really like to trade... I have quite a few extras. Anyhoo, here's what I need: 90, 96, 103, 119, 120, 128, 134, 146. Here's my list of extras: 12, 53, 56, 59, 60, 80, 91, 93, 97, 105. 106, 115, 131, 138. I'd like to get the above issues first because they will complete the main series, but I also need the following: SPECIAL MISSIONS: 8-11; 13-27 & EUROPEAN MISSIONS: 2-10; 13 (yeah, I know that's a pretty wide range). I'd also be interested in any issues of ACTION FORCE... I don't have any of those and I was perusing the covers on yojoe and they looked really neat-o. If anyone is interseted or can lend a hand, I'd love to be able to read 1-155 in their entirety before I ravenously jump into the new era in April. Thanks, Dani --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.9 --------------- From: Corey & Angela Stinson Subject: Re: you people are all pessimists! Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 21:15:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811020237.SAA17208@lists1.best.com> At 08:37 PM 11/1/98 -0600, you wrote: >You know, everyone thinks that GI Joe will die. >I don't think so. >It's been around for how long? >If you think back... as long as I can remember there has always been Joe >I think it will survive. >we just have to give it a chance, and support it, and pass our love to our >children. > >YO JOE! No one really thinks that GI Joe is going to die/go away, but there is a persistent fear that his current 3 3/4" articulated format will die/go away in favor of some other cleverly crafted nonsense designed to yield more profit while degrading concept and quality - this is a constant paranoid fear that we must live with while the people that created the likes of GI Joe Extreme are still breathing oxygen. :) -- _________________________________________________________________________ // Corey Stinson || stinson@anet-stl.com \\ \\ Systems Programmer || corey@masterclock.com // // Real-Time Applications & Embedded Systems || \\ \\ GUI Application Development || // // World Wide Web & CGI Development || \\ \\ C/C++/Visual C++ (MFC)/Assembler || // // DOS/Windows 3.x '95 NT/Netware/Un*x || \\ \\ ------------------------------------------++----------------------------// // No Love Stronger / No Pain Greater / No Hate Deeper / The Church Within \\ \\____- The Obsessed ______________________________________________________// --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.10 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: toon request Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 21:21:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anybody know where I can find movs of episodes of the toon? I've seen the ones on Quick Kick's page. are there any other's out there? anybody out there sell episodes for a half decent price? I never saw the toon... didn't have cable... and the local videos stores don't carry it got the movie, and that's all *pouts* thanks ^^ Bullet "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hooper --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.11 --------------- From: Grendel346@aol.com Subject: Re: you people are all pessimists! Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 22:39:50 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 3:30:28 AM !!!First Boot!!!, stinson@anet-stl.com writes: << you wrote: >You know, everyone thinks that GI Joe will die. >I don't think so. >It's been around for how long? >If you think back... as long as I can remember there has always been Joe >I think it will survive. >we just have to give it a chance, and support it, and pass our love to our >children. > >YO JOE! No one really thinks that GI Joe is going to die/go away, but there is a persistent fear that his current 3 3/4" articulated format will die/go away in favor of some other cleverly crafted nonsense designed to yield more profit while degrading concept and quality - this is a constant paranoid fear that we must live with while the people that created the likes of GI Joe Extreme are still breathing oxygen. :) >> Get me the names of these bufoons and I'll see to it that they breathe no more. Now where are my Ninja-Vipers? Grendel --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.12 --------------- From: Russ Humphress Subject: On storylines Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 22:40:42 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is just something I was thinking about...I thought I'd see if anyone else had any comments. Those Of You who are into J. Michael Straczynski's Babylon 5 and take part in the online forums which JMS reads, are aware that the general rule is, post and idea, and never see it in the show. This is mostly because of the possible legal problems of using an idea without the proper permissions and such. The reason I'm bringing this up here is, since Mr. Hama is an active participant in this list, we should probably be careful about the concepts for the comic that we throw around. This wasn't a problem when there was no comic in production, but now with it coming back...well, I like to think that no one on the list would do anything to hinder the return of a Hama written Joe comic. Anyway, as an example... JMS was almost forced to drop an episode of B5 that was already in production, because someone posted a similar story idea to one of the forums JMS reads. Fortunately, he was able to meet with the poster, and get some necessary paperwork signed, and still get the episode made. The basic point is, we've all been speculating on how to bring the Joes back into action. There are, only so many ways to do that, and some of the theories put forth are already similar. I'd hate to loose Mr. Hama from this list, but I'm afraid he might stop participating due to the potential problems it might cause. And I just don't want to see that happen. Personally, I'm sure Mr. Hama can come up with plots most of us would never dream of. (Which is why I can hardly wait to see the new book.) Anyway, I may just be worried about nothing. I invite comments, especially if Mr. Hama has anything to say about the situation. -Russ Humphress CN: Sparks PMS: Professional Worrier ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jaegan, aka Russell D. Humphress -|- jaegan@ms.uky.edu http://www.ms.uky.edu/~jaegan | jaegan@earthling.net Bill: You despise Windows, don't you? Steve: If I even considered using it, I probably would. ---- ICQ# 3844642 ----------------------------------------------- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.13 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: you people are all pessimists! Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 22:54:53 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << this is a constant paranoid fear that we must live with while the people that created the likes of GI Joe Extreme are still breathing oxygen. >> Heh heh...maybe we should do something about that oxygen >:) --Chucky --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.14 --------------- From: "man9" Subject: Re: On storylines Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:55:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >The reason I'm bringing this up here is, since Mr. Hama is an active >participant in this list, we should probably be careful about the concepts >for the comic that we throw around. This is a very good point. I must say I was thinking the same thing. Shipwreck --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.15 --------------- From: Corey & Angela Stinson Subject: Re: On storylines Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 22:09:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811020347.TAA29693@lists1.best.com> At 10:40 PM 11/1/98 -0500, you wrote: >This is just something I was thinking about...I thought I'd see if anyone >else had any comments. >Those Of You who are into J. Michael Straczynski's Babylon 5 and take part >in the online forums which JMS reads, are aware that the general rule is, >post and idea, and never see it in the show. This is mostly because of >the possible legal problems of using an idea without the proper permissions >and such. Russ, Interesting thoughts. Perhaps we should adopt an official policy on this list that if you have concepts for GI Joe storylines that you consider to be yours/copyrighted you should avoid stating them on this public list for just the reasons Russ described. We certainly _do not_ want to create any problems for a returning GI Joe comic. -- _________________________________________________________________________ // Corey Stinson || stinson@anet-stl.com \\ \\ Systems Programmer || corey@masterclock.com // // Real-Time Applications & Embedded Systems || \\ \\ GUI Application Development || // // World Wide Web & CGI Development || \\ \\ C/C++/Visual C++ (MFC)/Assembler || // // DOS/Windows 3.x '95 NT/Netware/Un*x || \\ \\ ------------------------------------------++----------------------------// // No Love Stronger / No Pain Greater / No Hate Deeper / The Church Within \\ \\____- The Obsessed ______________________________________________________// --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.16 --------------- From: Hyperion Subject: Cobra De Aco filecard/Foreign Filecards Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:21:39 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heyo. A while ago, someone on this list posted about having a page which had the Cobra De Aco(Iron Cobra/Steel Cobra) filecard on it. Unfortunately, I can't find the URL. Where is this? While on the subject of foreign filecards, has anyone here thought to actually translate them? When I had the url to the Cobra De Aco filecard, I tried this (using the Altavista Spanish/English translator), but it didn't turn out quite right, as the closest it had to Argentinian spanish was Brazilian spanish(I'm not sure how PC that statement was, but, hey). Can anyone help with this? I'd love to see what the cards for Sparta, Satan, Sokerk and co. say. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.17 --------------- From: "Derek R. Anderson" Subject: Question about 3.75" Joes... Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 23:22:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At my local Target today I noticed a GI Joe for sale, it was 3.75" Tall and in a small box. Turns out it is a detacable Key Chain, it is a regular 3.75" fully articulated Joe with a keychain plugged into the hole on his back that is removable. There are 4 different ones, Action Marine, Sailor, Pilot and Soldier... For only $3 each it is a great deal, even if just for the box. The box says it is based on a 1967 series of larger figures... My question is, do any of you out there have these, or know where to get them??? I only got the Action Marine because it is the only one they had, I would LOVE to get the other three. Please someone help me! :) The company is "Fun 4 All" and the web address is http://www.fun-4-all.com I went there and it is under construction, nothing there... :( One more thing, they appear to be reproductions of the Joes that are DeSimone #552, 553, 556 and 558. Derek... Derek R. Anderson Active Imagination Art Studios http://www.netxp.com/aias AOL IM: aiasderek (904) 788-2586 FAX: (904) 788-5414 --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.18 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Re: On storylines Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 20:33:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >This is mostly because of the possible legal problems >of using an idea without the proper permissions >and such. Good point, actually. Maybe I shouldn't have posted my story ideas. How's this for an ironic situation: "Guy with a Site Dedicated to G.I. Joe Comics Destroys Chance of Comic's Return!" Seriously, that is a reason why many TV/publishing companies don't accept "unsolicited" manuscripts or scripts, or why certain Star Wars authors aren't supposed to read any fan fiction. It's just that they're afraid they'll be sued if a story is similar. Just to clear things up: I HEREBY GIVE UP ANY LEGAL RIGHT TO THE AFOREMENTIONED STORY OUTLINE AND/OR IDEA AND I AGREE TO NEVER SEEK LEGAL ACTIONS TO CLAIM OTHERWISE. James McFadden -------------- How's that? JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.19 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Re: you people are all pessimists! Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 20:38:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii <> I just thought I should point out here than some people don't see less articulation as a cost-cutting measure. Some collectors actually prefer it. I've heard Star Wars toy collectors say that they prefer the more visually-accurate Star Wars figures over the obvious bolt/screw/seam kind of design the Joes have. That said, as a kid playing with toys, I would have killed to have a Darth Vader that could bend his arms to be part of a lightsaber duel. Uh oh. Double geek alert! Star Wars AND G.I. Joe??? Yep. JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.20 --------------- From: "Danielle N. Barese" Subject: Re: toon request Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 20:47:04 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've put this request out before... I'll dub my copies for anyone, but I'm not the most punctual person on the planet... the best way for me to do this is if you send tapes to me along with return postage and I'll dub and send back. I've done this for quite a few people... I don't ask for a profit, just enought $ so I don't have to fork out any cash :) If you choose you could send money and I could buy the tapes... I think last time I checked, a four-pack of videos was going for about 12 bucks here. Anyhoo... if you're interested... and anyone else whom I've forgotten to respond to (I've finally repaired my broken VCR so the dubbing can commence) send me tapes or send me cash and I'll do my best to dub what I can... my collection takes up about 7 tapes, but I think I can get them all on 6... maybe 5 if they're 8 hour tapes. If you want a list of eps that I have, drop me a line... Again... to all those whom I've forgotten about (I think there may be a few of you out there) I apologize and if you still want them, drop me a line and I'll get right on it. Dani At 09:21 PM 11/1/98 -0600, you wrote: >Does anybody know where I can find movs of episodes of the toon? >I've seen the ones on Quick Kick's page. >are there any other's out there? >anybody out there sell episodes for a half decent price? > >I never saw the toon... didn't have cable... and the local videos stores >don't carry it >got the movie, and that's all >*pouts* > >thanks ^^ > >Bullet >"If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... >There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman > >"You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral >Grace Hooper > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.21 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: you people are all pessimists! Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 22:08:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:38 PM 11/1/98 -0800, you wrote: > >I just thought I should point out here than some people don't see less >articulation as a cost-cutting measure. Some collectors actually >prefer it. I've heard Star Wars toy collectors say that they prefer >the more visually-accurate Star Wars figures over the obvious >bolt/screw/seam kind of design the Joes have. But do those guys actually play with the toys? SW collectors are interested in making dioramas of their favorite movie scenes not in making a toy thats fun to play with. Those figures are not action figures but posable figurines. >That said, as a kid playing with toys, I would have killed to have a >Darth Vader that could bend his arms to be part of a lightsaber duel. Same here! Remember how crappy the figures would fit on the speederbikes? We all know the reason why Star Wars toys became so bloody cold after 1982 (any SW collector knows how easy it is to find packaged ROTJ toys) was because GI Joe was an improved version of the same toy idea that had the marketing and exposure needed to compete with SW. When I went to the toystore in the early 80s I looked at GI Joe and I looked at SW, I liked each equally but I always picked GI Joe because I could do so much more with it. There are dozens of SW collectors who can tell stories of passing up those rare 1985 SW toys for GI Joe, they wish they had the SW today of course because they are so expensive nowadays but back then, as kids, they knew which toy was going to be more fun. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.22 --------------- From: Calvin Woo Subject: Re: you people are all pessimists! Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 22:28:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199811020609.WAA11837@lists1.best.com> Heh heh, I actually traded my entire collection of vintage Star Wars figures to get G.I.JOEs. I really regretted it when I started liking Star Wars again after a while, but am glad I did it. If I didn't, then I might not be on this list. But the cycle has begun again. After G.I.Joe stopped in 1994, I started buying the POTF2 figures. I bought quite a lot and well, if anyone wants them, I'd be willing to trade for G.I.Joes that I don't have. If there's any takers out there, email me privately. Who said that trends don't go in cycles!?! Calvin On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, John A Woods wrote: > At 08:38 PM 11/1/98 -0800, you wrote: > > > >I just thought I should point out here than some people don't see less > >articulation as a cost-cutting measure. Some collectors actually > >prefer it. I've heard Star Wars toy collectors say that they prefer > >the more visually-accurate Star Wars figures over the obvious > >bolt/screw/seam kind of design the Joes have. > > > But do those guys actually play with the toys? SW collectors are interested > in making dioramas of their favorite movie scenes not in making a toy thats > fun to play with. Those figures are not action figures but posable figurines. > > > >That said, as a kid playing with toys, I would have killed to have a > >Darth Vader that could bend his arms to be part of a lightsaber duel. > > Same here! Remember how crappy the figures would fit on the speederbikes? > > We all know the reason why Star Wars toys became so bloody cold after 1982 > (any SW collector knows how easy it is to find packaged ROTJ toys) was > because GI Joe was an improved version of the same toy idea that had the > marketing and exposure needed to compete with SW. When I went to the > toystore in the early 80s I looked at GI Joe and I looked at SW, I liked > each equally but I always picked GI Joe because I could do so much more with > it. There are dozens of SW collectors who can tell stories of passing up > those rare 1985 SW toys for GI Joe, they wish they had the SW today of > course because they are so expensive nowadays but back then, as kids, they > knew which toy was going to be more fun. > > -John > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.23 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: On storylines Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:25:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:40 PM 11/1/98 -0500, you wrote: >The reason I'm bringing this up here is, since Mr. Hama is an active >participant in this list, we should probably be careful about the concepts >for the comic that we throw around. This wasn't a problem when there >was no comic in production, but now with it coming back...well, I like >to think that no one on the list would do anything to hinder the return >of a Hama written Joe comic. >Personally, I'm sure Mr. Hama can come up with plots most of us would >never dream of. (Which is why I can hardly wait to see the new book.) >Anyway, I may just be worried about nothing. I invite comments, especially >if Mr. Hama has anything to say about the situation. I suppose you're right. So instead of giving story ideas what do you guys want to see in a new comic? I have a few holes in my marvel collection but I don't believe there was a comic dealing with the origin of the the GI Joe team in 1982. I'd like to see a story on what happened before #1, perhaps a #0 comic? Anyone have any characters they'd like to see an origin for? BTW it was mentioned there would be two gi joe books, is this two continuing series (ala RAH and Special Missions?) or two one shot books? -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.24 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: you people are all pessimists! Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:00:29 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GIJOE will die ONLY if Hasbro allows it too. We need to be recruiting new folks to buy, play with, collect Joes - big and small --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.25 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: you people are all pessimists! Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:14:45 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/1/98 9:47:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, forrister@sk.sympatico.ca writes: << You know, everyone thinks that GI Joe will die. I don't think so. It's been around for how long? If you think back... as long as I can remember there has always been Joe I think it will survive. we just have to give it a chance, and support it, and pass our love to our children. >> Well, that goes without saying, but GIJoe A RealAmerican Hero has only been around for less than half the GIJoe life. We haven't seen one year since 1994 where there wasn't GIJoe product, and we wont see another until the 12" guys become unprofitable, which doesnt seem to be any time in the near future. But the time for 3 3/4" Joes seems to be over. If the waters were tested, ad were warm, at high tide.. why would Hasbro wait till low tide (like two years from now, when enthusiasm from kids over the 1998 figures has already subsided) to put out more? Simple answer, cuz they're not going to put out any more period. Its sad... actually, pretty depressing... but it is truth. Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.26 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: On storylines Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:22:30 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/1/98 10:56:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, jaegan@ms.uky.edu writes: << The basic point is, we've all been speculating on how to bring the Joes back into action. There are, only so many ways to do that, and some of the theories put forth are already similar. I'd hate to loose Mr. Hama from this list, but I'm afraid he might stop participating due to the potential problems it might cause. And I just don't want to see that happen. Personally, I'm sure Mr. Hama can come up with plots most of us would never dream of. (Which is why I can hardly wait to see the new book.) Anyway, I may just be worried about nothing. I invite comments, especially if Mr. Hama has anything to say about the situation. >> Well, as one of those people who voiced their ideas on how to bring the Joes back... If Larry wants to use something as lame as what I did... HE'S WELCOME!!! I doubt anyone here would be so anal as to try to claim rights on a story because it is similar to what they've posted. I mean, in this particular sitch, I dont think there *is* any other way to bring the Joes back besides them being reactivated... how else could it happen? No other way. So Issue #1 will have the same basic story of the Joes getting reactivated becasue of eithr some Cobra plot, or another terrorist activity. It has to happen that way, unless theres like a radioactive meltdown in the Pentagon, and by chance, these 160 some odd soldiers are the only ones left to keep the peace in the world.. oops.. I gues thats a possibility too ;-) But seriously... I dont think theres more'n about 20 bucks to be made off of a "similar story idea" lawsuit in this case.. so who cares.. wouldn't it just kick ass to see your ideas ina comic.. this is your chance... sXe --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.27 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: toon request Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 06:39:14 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Does anybody know where I can find movs of episodes of the toon? >I've seen the ones on Quick Kick's page. >are there any other's out there? >anybody out there sell episodes for a half decent price? > >I never saw the toon... didn't have cable... and the local videos stores >don't carry it >got the movie, and that's all >*pouts* > >thanks ^^ > >Bullet The best source I have found for these is Tom Rotter. ' metlar@jumo.com ' He has ALL the Joe epsall in LP mode ( 4 hours volumes ), total 13 volumes available. He is reasonable at $ 15.00 each vol. The ones I have gotten from him ( did not get em all yet ) were quite ok quality so he gets my stamp of aproval. - rocketeer - --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.28 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: you people are all pessimists! Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:00:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But the time for 3 3/4" Joes seems to be >over. If the waters were tested, ad were warm, at high tide.. why would >Hasbro wait till low tide (like two years from now, when enthusiasm from kids >over the 1998 figures has already subsided) to put out more? >Simple answer, cuz they're not going to put out any more period. >Its sad... actually, pretty depressing... but it is truth. > >Straight-Edge > I beg to differ, We all tought 3.3/4" Joes were dead after 1994,but they made a return in 97 and the 98 line looks great. And it was thanks to collectors like ourselves that the line came back.After all ,the cards do say "collector's edition." If Hasbro isn't going to make any more joes,period,why would they bother licensing a new comic and creating new characters in the 98 line? (Volga, up to a point, and Vypra.) So there won't be any new joes in '99...That's not a big disaster. The 98 line is being brought out at the end of '98,so it is a part of the '99 toys being offered at TRU.After all,it's November and they still haven't appeared in the USA. Joes will be available in stores in '99,both from the '98 and '97 line. Maybe Hasbro wants to see how they'll do and decide at the end of '99 if they're gonna bring out new joes. Just my thoughts Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.29 --------------- From: Corey & Angela Stinson Subject: '98 Joes US release date info Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 08:15:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey folks, I wrote to Hasbro and got the following reponses regarding the US release days of the '98 Joes. I guess we can infer from there response that this is a production/distribution delay: Hello, Due to an order of distribution, the figures may hit some shelves before others. The 3 3/4" figures are scheduled to hit shelves before Christmas, but the exact date I am not able to specify. Thanks for writing the GI Joe Team here at Hasbro. Doug - Team GI Joe > ---------- > From: Corey & Angela Stinson[SMTP:stinson@anet-stl.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 11:16 AM > To: gijoe@hasbro.com > Subject: GI Joe '98 > > Hello, > > This is probably an F.A.Q., but can you provide any information on the > US release window for the '98 Joes at TRU? Canada has had at least the > figures for (going on) three weeks. Is the US release being intentionally > delayed for marketing reasons, or is this a function of natural > production/distribution delays? -- _________________________________________________________________________ // Corey Stinson || stinson@anet-stl.com \\ \\ Systems Programmer || corey@masterclock.com // // Real-Time Applications & Embedded Systems || \\ \\ GUI Application Development || // // World Wide Web & CGI Development || \\ \\ C/C++/Visual C++ (MFC)/Assembler || // // DOS/Windows 3.x '95 NT/Netware/Un*x || \\ \\ ------------------------------------------++----------------------------// // No Love Stronger / No Pain Greater / No Hate Deeper / The Church Within \\ \\____- The Obsessed ______________________________________________________// --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n735.30 --------------- From: Corey & Angela Stinson Subject: Re: Cobra De Aco filecard/Foreign Filecards Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 08:23:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811020413.UAA12781@lists1.best.com> At 02:21 PM 11/2/98 +1000, you wrote: >While on the subject of foreign filecards, has anyone here thought to >actually translate them? When I had the url to the Cobra De Aco >filecard, I tried this (using the Altavista Spanish/English translator), >but it didn't turn out quite right, as the closest it had to Argentinian >spanish was Brazilian spanish(I'm not sure how PC that statement was, >but, hey). Can anyone help with this? I'd love to see what the cards for >Sparta, Satan, Sokerk and co. say. All of the filecards from Brazil are going to be in Portuguese(sp?) if that helps. -- _________________________________________________________________________ // Corey Stinson || stinson@anet-stl.com \\ \\ Systems Programmer || corey@masterclock.com // // Real-Time Applications & Embedded Systems || \\ \\ GUI Application Development || // // World Wide Web & CGI Development || \\ \\ C/C++/Visual C++ (MFC)/Assembler || // // DOS/Windows 3.x '95 NT/Netware/Un*x || \\ \\ ------------------------------------------++----------------------------// // No Love Stronger / No Pain Greater / No Hate Deeper / The Church Within \\ \\____- The Obsessed ______________________________________________________// --------------- END gijoe.v001.n735 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n736 -------------- 001 - Corey & Angela Stinson - Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic 011 - BespinRunt@aol.com - Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic 012 - Matt_Krajewski@progressiv - SW2000 013 - Eric Leavitt Subject: Re: you people are all pessimists! Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 08:27:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811020435.UAA22595@lists1.best.com> At 08:38 PM 11/1/98 -0800, you wrote: > ><is a persistent fear that his current 3 3/4" articulated format will >die/go away in favor of some other cleverly crafted nonsense designed >to yield >more profit while degrading concept and quality>> > >I just thought I should point out here than some people don't see less >articulation as a cost-cutting measure. Some collectors actually >prefer it. I've heard Star Wars toy collectors say that they prefer >the more visually-accurate Star Wars figures over the obvious >bolt/screw/seam kind of design the Joes have. That's the whole "statue" vs."toy" argument which I won't delve into. I buy POTF2 figures as well, but I consider them to be more statues than toys. GI Joe, on the other hand, I will always consider to be a true toy designed from the beginning to be played with still look nice on display too. -- _________________________________________________________________________ // Corey Stinson || stinson@anet-stl.com \\ \\ Systems Programmer || corey@masterclock.com // // Real-Time Applications & Embedded Systems || \\ \\ GUI Application Development || // // World Wide Web & CGI Development || \\ \\ C/C++/Visual C++ (MFC)/Assembler || // // DOS/Windows 3.x '95 NT/Netware/Un*x || \\ \\ ------------------------------------------++----------------------------// // No Love Stronger / No Pain Greater / No Hate Deeper / The Church Within \\ \\____- The Obsessed ______________________________________________________// --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.2 --------------- From: Corey & Angela Stinson Subject: Re: you people are all pessimists! Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 08:33:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811021215.EAA27574@lists1.best.com> At 07:14 AM 11/2/98 EST, you wrote: > >Well, that goes without saying, but GIJoe A RealAmerican Hero has only been >around for less than half the GIJoe life. >We haven't seen one year since 1994 where there wasn't GIJoe product, and we >wont see another until the 12" guys become unprofitable, which doesnt seem to >be any time in the near future. But the time for 3 3/4" Joes seems to be >over. If the waters were tested, ad were warm, at high tide.. why would >Hasbro wait till low tide (like two years from now, when enthusiasm from kids >over the 1998 figures has already subsided) to put out more? >Simple answer, cuz they're not going to put out any more period. >Its sad... actually, pretty depressing... but it is truth. Hasbro could still turn the 3 3/4" Joes into a collector-based line if they wanted to. I mean, honestly, are kids driving the sales of the 12" figures? I seriously doubt it. I think a higher-priced collector-quality 3 3/4" GI Joe would do well. If not now, certainly in a few more years once the full core group of kids who played with GI Joe 3 3/4" in the 80s get into the work force and have the money to invest in a collection. I think they could do it and make a profit... but would it be enough profit? -- _________________________________________________________________________ // Corey Stinson || stinson@anet-stl.com \\ \\ Systems Programmer || corey@masterclock.com // // Real-Time Applications & Embedded Systems || \\ \\ GUI Application Development || // // World Wide Web & CGI Development || \\ \\ C/C++/Visual C++ (MFC)/Assembler || // // DOS/Windows 3.x '95 NT/Netware/Un*x || \\ \\ ------------------------------------------++----------------------------// // No Love Stronger / No Pain Greater / No Hate Deeper / The Church Within \\ \\____- The Obsessed ______________________________________________________// --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.3 --------------- From: Corey & Angela Stinson Subject: Re: you people are all pessimists! Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 08:37:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811021403.GAA09149@lists1.best.com> At 03:00 PM 11/2/98 +0100, you wrote: > >So there won't be any new joes in '99...That's not a big disaster. >The 98 line is being brought out at the end of '98,so it is a part of >the '99 toys being offered at TRU.After all,it's November and they >still haven't appeared in the USA. > It's also too early to say for certain that there won't be any new product in 1999. Even though the H.Q. was cancelled, for example, part of that cancellation rumor (now confirmed unforunately) indicated that the H.Q. may yet appear in 1999. I think a lot of this will rest on how well the '98 assortment does - and I think it will do much better. This time around, I don't think you will see overproduced duds like the Stars n' Stripes set, the Slugger, and the Rage. -- _________________________________________________________________________ // Corey Stinson || stinson@anet-stl.com \\ \\ Systems Programmer || corey@masterclock.com // // Real-Time Applications & Embedded Systems || \\ \\ GUI Application Development || // // World Wide Web & CGI Development || \\ \\ C/C++/Visual C++ (MFC)/Assembler || // // DOS/Windows 3.x '95 NT/Netware/Un*x || \\ \\ ------------------------------------------++----------------------------// // No Love Stronger / No Pain Greater / No Hate Deeper / The Church Within \\ \\____- The Obsessed ______________________________________________________// --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.4 --------------- From: GITrekker@aol.com Subject: Re: You people are all pessimists Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:45:49 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <> Let's see, the first 12" line lasted from 1964 to 1976. Then there was Super Joe which no one really wants to talk about that got axed in 1978. No Joe for four years. Then the 3 3/4" line ran from 1982-1994 and got axed. Then we got two disgraces to plastic called Sgt. Savage and GIJoe Extreme, while the 12" Classic Collection started up. Then the 3 3/4" finally got going in 1997, but it was garbage. This year's is somewhat better, but it's also the end of the line. That's not pessimism -- I don't like it any better than you -- it's just plain, simple fact. I have spoken with Hasbro execs who have flatly told me there will be no 3 3/4" product beyond 1998. And I have reason to be concerned about the future of the Classic Collection, as well. (No, I cannot elaborate). And meaning no insult here, but all the flowery sentimentality in the world isn't going to change that, much as I might wish otherwise. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.5 --------------- From: Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com Subject: TFs and 80s Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:49:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline a variety of comments and questions from a variety of posters. >though, how long would it be before they reasserted control and hurt >the comic with a "re-tooling" like what they're planning with their >Beast Wars Cartoon? what re-tooling is planned? i thought the last handful of eps from the last season was great... >Entirely possible, but few things occur in a vaccuum. All things are >fundamentally interconnected, or so says Dirk Gently. been much too long since i've read that book... :) >I suggest everyone order two copies at least... plus pick up the Transformers titles.. transformer titles? >>sorry guys , but 2000 IS NOT ( and never will be ) the start of the new >>Millenium - it is the LAST year of the 20th century. FINALLY finding people who agree with me... >>You can name at least half of the members of the elite "Brat Pack." >> Rob Lowe, Judd Nelson, Ally Sheedy, Demi Moore, Emelio Estevez... Anthony Michael Hall and Molly Ringwald were others... >>You thought Molly Ringwald was REALLY cool. (Was there an 80's movie >>she WASN'T in?) >> PRETTY IN PINK, SIXTEEN CANDLES, SAY ANYTHING, THE BREAKFAST CLUB... nah, she wasn't in Say Anything. Ione Skye (sp?) was the lead. (BIG John Cusack fan...) >>You had WonderWoman or Superman underoos. Loved underoos, being the comic nut I was/am. The early ones were best, when they looked like the hero's (superman, batman, robin, aquaman, spiderman, captain america, etc) costume. the later ones with just pictures of the heroes on them were terrible. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.6 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:58:34 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here it is, on four-color review: 4-Color Review http://4colorreview.simplenet.com/ Its all there.. every word 100% truth... and the first Bench Press Joe art as well. Enjoy all Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.7 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: RE: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:15:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Fine, but how does one subscrivbe or make sure it's always at our newsstand? The Website seems Spartan. > ---------- > From: BespinRunt@aol.com[SMTP:BespinRunt@aol.com] > Reply To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 9:58 AM > To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Subject: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic > > Here it is, on four-color review: > 4-Color Review > http://4colorreview.simplenet.com/ > > Its all there.. every word 100% truth... > and the first Bench Press Joe art as well. > Enjoy all > > Straight-Edge > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.8 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Tranformers and a POSTER OFFER!!! Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:38:12 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 11:14:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com writes: << >I suggest everyone order two copies at least... plus pick up the Transformers titles.. >> >>transformer titles? >> Yes, in addition to the two GIJoe titles: "A Real American Hero" and "Strike Force" coming from Bench Press Studios, there will be two Transformers titles: "Beast Wars" and "Showcase" Also, Joes and Janes! LISTEN UP!!! Contained in the pages of and upcoming issue of "Warrior's Way" ,Bench Press' first series, will be a coupon redeemable for one GIJOE POSTER featuring the art seen on 4-Color Review for only $1.00 for postage and handling! I suggest everyone pick up this series, and keep your eyes open for it! This is just the beginning of what seems to be the brightest star in the GIJoe heavens these days!!! Thanks should go to Benny Powell, Editor-in-Chief of Bench Press Studios, for giving us what I promise you all will be a slew of kick ass comics! Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.9 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: okay, okay, okay.... Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 10:41:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Okay, so you guys all made your point yes, I'm being "flowery", but I still think there is hope for Joes. the thing is, if HASBRO knew there was a market for Joes, then they would continue then line simple as that. so what do we do about it? we as consumers have to show HASBRO that there IS a market for Joe. so, we buy what we can afford. besides, I find it hard to believe that with two new comics on their way, that Hasbro will not continue the line. you know, its entirely possible that the folks at hasbro are saying that there won't be any more joes just so that if new joes come out, the market will be ripe. people will be excited saying "Hey look, new Joes! I thought there wouldn't be anymore"... Just a few thoughts from your friendly neighborhood, optimistic Bullet ^^ "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hooper --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.10 --------------- From: Eugene Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:41:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <199811021559.HAA27216@lists1.best.com> At 10:58 AM -0500 11/2/98, BespinRunt@aol.com wrote: >Here it is, on four-color review: > 4-Color Review >http://4colorreview.simplenet.com/ > >Its all there.. every word 100% truth... >and the first Bench Press Joe art as well. >Enjoy all > >Straight-Edge Very cool. Two new G.I.Joe titles. There is a God. :) I love the choices of characters on the art - Hawk, Snake-Eyes, and Lady Jaye. And Ron Lim? He's one of my favorites and I've always found his art to be very under-rated. I'm interested in seeing if he can do a military book, as his forté has been slicker-looking superhero stuff (unless I'm forgetting some of his other work). Thanks for the scoop, Straight-Edge. ------------------------------------------------------------ eugenE | YO JOE! |--------------------------------------- eson(*)yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! ------------------------------------------------------------ "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" ------------------------------------------------------------ "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.11 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:43:23 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 11:36:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, ELeavitt@alliedbenefit.com writes: << Fine, but how does one subscribe or make sure it's always at our newsstand? >> Well, I dunno about newstands, but if theres a comic book store near you, as them for a "Previews" order form, and guidebook. Its an incredibly thick book that lists every comic book that you can order for the month. Usually, comics are solicited two months ahead of time, so sometime in February (Before the 15th of the month your order must go in). If your comic book store owners arent complete a**holes, they'll mark down your titles, and order them for you month after month... most will even put them on the side for you, so you can pick up all your titles at once. I dont think Bench Press is set up for subscriptions, they are a fairly new, and fairly small company right now. But if you love Joe, I know you'll all make that extra effort to get as many and whatever titles from Bench Press that you desire. sXe --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.12 --------------- From: Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com Subject: SW2000 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:51:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline more misc ramblings... >Yeah, I remember first seeing Star Wars figures when I was a kid and >I thought "Cool,they're just like GIJOE!",then I took a closer look and >realised they couldn't move like joes. >As a kid I have often cursed the manufacturer of STW for this! >This was also the reason that I've NEVER bought STW figures. was the opposite for me, actually. I'd been collecting Star Wars for a few years prior to joes, and stumbled across them while filling out my Star Wars collection. (actually remember getting an AT AT Commander and R2-D2 with Sensorscope when I bought my first joe, Short Fuse) The main reason I switched from SW to joe was twofold: swivel arm battle grip and a decline in SW quality. After Jedi hype died down it seemed to me (as a 9/10 yr old) that the quality dropped. As much as I liked the initial joe figures, they suffered constant broken thumbs/fingers.. but with the intro of swivel-arms and a boost in quality, joes shot up my chart. in a couple years time they went from an even choice in my mind to no contest. Though I still liked the Star Wars characters, how could I rationalize buying one of those when that $2.69 could be spent on a joe instead? >PS did anybody ever think that we'd still be buying joes in stores in >2000?? When I was first buying joes (1986) 2000 seemed a lifetime away.. True... and BF2000 were supposed to be the joes of the future! >Few years? I don't think Star Wars will EVER die out now! Enough buzz was >created a couple years ago to spawn a new toyline even without a movie. Star >Wars will be the Disney for the new millennium. God would live in fear if >there was a merger.... I believe there are a couple of things that fueled the POTF2 mania. 1) When first released, they were shredded by fans and critics who thought the likenesses were terribly done or too buff, while chastising kenner's failure to add poseability after all these years. they sat on the shelves for months, until word started slipping out on the short packs and variants. These rarer figures propelled the toyline forward, until... 2) The trilogy re-releases. These provided a sufficient boost to flood the market with new product, while enlarging the buyer's group to include kids as well as collectors. Yet even this hype would eventually die down... and is now being replaced by 3) Prequel hype. Prequel 'preview' toys are already filtering into the marketplace (picked up an STAP for my cousin this weekend), and by collecting proofs you can send away for the samuel jackson figure. (Pulp Fiction customs?) I imagine you'll see a similar chain of ups and downs through the next 6 years... but forever? Nah. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.13 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: RE: Tranformers and a POSTER OFFER!!! Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:58:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain But again....how does one subscribe? > ---------- > From: BespinRunt@aol.com[SMTP:BespinRunt@aol.com] > Reply To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 10:38 AM > To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Subject: Re: Tranformers and a POSTER OFFER!!! > > In a message dated 11/2/98 11:14:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, > Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com writes: > > << >I suggest everyone order two copies at least... plus pick up the > Transformers titles.. >> > >>transformer titles? >> > > Yes, in addition to the two GIJoe titles: > "A Real American Hero" and "Strike Force" > > coming from Bench Press Studios, there will be two Transformers titles: > "Beast Wars" and "Showcase" > > Also, Joes and Janes! LISTEN UP!!! > Contained in the pages of and upcoming issue of "Warrior's Way" ,Bench > Press' > first series, will be a coupon redeemable for one GIJOE POSTER featuring > the > art seen on 4-Color > Review > for only $1.00 for postage and handling! > > I suggest everyone pick up this series, and keep your eyes open for it! > This is just the beginning of what seems to be the brightest star in the > GIJoe > heavens these days!!! > > Thanks should go to Benny Powell, Editor-in-Chief of Bench Press Studios, > for > giving us what I promise you all will be a slew of kick ass comics! > > Straight-Edge > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.14 --------------- From: Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com Subject: more ramblings Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:01:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline >Its strange that at 24 to 48 pages that they don't make just one book, or >make the two books focus on RAH and 12" joe seperatly. I'm assuming these >books will cover the 90s collector figures beyond the HOF figures. No, these are the books that were released some time back. They are 2 books rather than 1 because the first covers i think '82-91, and the 2nd is '91-94, plus street fighter, con figs, and 12" HOFers. The first was created while the line was still active, and the 2nd ties up the latter years. I think. There is a book that focuses on 12" joe exclusively, though since I don't collect I'm unsure of what it is. Believe I saw John's Toys selling it (which, by the way, sells the DiSimone's guides for $11 or $12 themselves...) >My cousins son once tried t go down into the sewers to find the ninja turtles. >that's a pretty scarey thought, you know did he find them? --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.15 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:11:57 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 12:08:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, eson@yojoe.com writes: << I love the choices of characters on the art - Hawk, Snake-Eyes, and Lady Jaye.>> Funny thing is, 4CR originally put DUKE up as the name... they didnt even know it was HAWK!! Benny was all over their asses about that! Funny $#!+ Anyway, I'll keep everyone updated as best I can. Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.16 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: RE: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:16:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain True....but since I cannot always make it to a comic book shop, I don't want to get screwed....besides, advanced orders always make a book sell better. > ---------- > From: BespinRunt@aol.com[SMTP:BespinRunt@aol.com] > Reply To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 10:43 AM > To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic > > In a message dated 11/2/98 11:36:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, > ELeavitt@alliedbenefit.com writes: > > << Fine, but how does one subscribe or make sure it's always at our > newsstand? > >> > > Well, I dunno about newstands, but if theres a comic book store near you, > as > them for a "Previews" order form, and guidebook. Its an incredibly thick > book > that lists every comic book that you can order for the month. Usually, > comics > are solicited two months ahead of time, so sometime in February (Before > the > 15th of the month your order must go in). If your comic book store owners > arent complete a**holes, they'll mark down your titles, and order them for > you > month after month... most will even put them on the side for you, so you > can > pick up all your titles at once. > > I dont think Bench Press is set up for subscriptions, they are a fairly > new, > and fairly small company right now. But if you love Joe, I know you'll > all > make that extra effort to get as many and whatever titles from Bench Press > that you desire. > > sXe > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.17 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:29:22 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 12:25:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, ELeavitt@alliedbenefit.com writes: << True....but since I cannot always make it to a comic book shop, I don't want to get screwed....besides, advanced orders always make a book sell better. >> Well, like I said, usually the comic book shop will order it for you on a monthly basis, so if you can only make it out to the shop every month or two, it'll be reserved and waiting... otherwise you could try a company like Mile High Comics, who have a program for new comic buyers... www.milehighcomics.com you can try there sometime in February or so... but besides that, comic shops are the best, and easiest way to go about getting these books. sXe --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.18 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: more ramblings Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:38:58 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 12:30:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com writes: << No, these are the books that were released some time back. They are 2 books rather than 1 because the first covers i think '82-91, and the 2nd is '91-94, plus street fighter, con figs, and 12" HOFers. The first was created while the line was still active, and the 2nd ties up the latter years. I think. There is a book that focuses on 12" joe exclusively, though since I don't collect I'm unsure of what it is. Believe I saw John's Toys selling it (which, by the way, sells the DiSimone's guides for $11 or $12 themselves...)>> Well, I said this few days ago, but what the hell Vol I came out like in 1993, or so.. it covers the 3 3/4" figures from 1982-1992 (The last figures in the book are DEF and Eco-Warriors II, plus the first wave of HOF's Vol II included a bunch of lame-ass reissues of old Joes with other figures' weapons (most that dont realte in any way shape or form to the figure) that were sold at conventions, all of the 1993 and 94 3 3/4" figures, Street Fighter figures (only those that had the GIJoe moniker on the cards), and HOF figures from 1993-1994, plus 7 custom exclusive 12" figures. There was a larger book featuring all of the Joes from 1964-1976. Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.19 --------------- From: TimElf@aol.com Subject: New to list Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:49:18 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, gang! New to the list here, but just re-discovering my GI Joe love, spurred by news of the new comic. Some info: I have most, if not all of the 3 3/4" toys from 1982-1988, plus a few random figures from then on. I have most of the regular comic book series (missing less than 20 issues), the entire run of Special Missions, Order of Battle, some of the digests, etc. I am incredibly excited about the new series. Larry Hama is awesome. Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.20 --------------- From: Grendel346@aol.com Subject: Re: On storylines Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:31:31 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 7:33:40 AM !!!First Boot!!!, woods01@islandnet.com writes: << I suppose you're right. So instead of giving story ideas what do you guys want to see in a new comic? I have a few holes in my marvel collection but I don't believe there was a comic dealing with the origin of the the GI Joe team in 1982. I'd like to see a story on what happened before #1, perhaps a #0 comic? Anyone have any characters they'd like to see an origin for? >> Issues #25 and #26, "The Origin of Snake-Eyes, parts 1 and 2" had some of the genesis of the joe team included within. An expansion on that story would be really cool. Grendel --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.21 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:39:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I noticed something on the artwork no one else seemed to notice: Snake-Eyes is in his 1985 costume. I'm guessing that means the Joes will be in their "favorite" costumes. The 1985 is the last Snake-Eyes uniform that was any good in my opinion... One more thing, people. Was that the actual cover? It says Joe Jusko is doing the cover, and that doesn't look like his artwork. Either way, I'm getting pretty damn excited! Later. JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.22 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: New to list Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:48:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: TimElf@aol.com Aan: gijoe@lists.best.com Datum: maandag 2 november 1998 19:13 Onderwerp: New to list >Hi, gang! > >New to the list here, but just re-discovering my GI Joe love, spurred by news >of the new comic. > >Some info: I have most, if not all of the 3 3/4" toys from 1982-1988, plus a >few random figures from then on. I have most of the regular comic book series >(missing less than 20 issues), the entire run of Special Missions, Order of >Battle, some of the digests, etc. > >I am incredibly excited about the new series. Larry Hama is awesome. > >Tim > OK, hello Tim and welcome to the list. Since this is the second Tim on the list (that I'm aware of),I'm changing my name to "Timmer" what is what everybody calls me overhere anyway. BTW the "Timmer Auto" email name isn't that personal,it's the name of the store my father owns and I work for. We use email to keep in touch with suppliers and so on. We sell car parts,anything from fuzzy dice to mufflers. Timmer (formerly known as Tim) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.23 --------------- From: TimElf@aol.com Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:05:52 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 1:03:58 PM Central Standard Time, jmmcfadd@yahoo.com writes: > I noticed something on the artwork no one else seemed to notice: > Snake-Eyes is in his 1985 costume. I'm guessing that means the Joes > will be in their "favorite" costumes. The 1985 is the last Snake-Eyes > uniform that was any good in my opinion... Who knows? Snakes changed costumes so often in the later years that it got pretty silly. Even the letters page commented on his fashion sense. :) > One more thing, people. Was that the actual cover? It says Joe Jusko > is doing the cover, and that doesn't look like his artwork. That's definitely not Jusko. That's probably just a promo art piece whipped up by Ron Lim to promote the series. It might show up as a poster at the comic shop sometime... Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.24 --------------- From: Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com Subject: (Fwd) initial Computations: feasible ? Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:28:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline from Richard: >I just wanted to let you know something. I finally found the warehouse >address and it's 4 hours away from my place. I don't have a problem going >there but carting away 100 figures and a few vehicles might be a lil too >optimistic and I don't have a car. I'll have to backpack my way there, >package it and still bring the box to my nearest fedex, 2 hours away. (I >live in the outlying province) With this in mind, I would think it would be appropriate for Richard to turn some sort of profit on this situation. He's put in a great deal of effort and legwork (literally, it sounds) and I think it's something we should consider when finalizing costs and totals... bueller? -Kj- didn't see any joes for halloween, but did see a 'toy story' soldier, complete with connected feet and 100% green! --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.25 --------------- From: Hyperion Subject: Re: Cobra De Aco filecard/Foreign Filecards Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 05:58:37 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199811021425.GAA17075@lists1.best.com> > All of the filecards from Brazil are going to be in Portuguese(sp?) > if that helps. > > -- Well, on to the next question: Anyone here speak Portuguese? --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.26 --------------- From: "mrsmiley!" Subject: RE: TFs and 80s Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:18:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >>though, how long would it be before they reasserted control and hurt >>the comic with a "re-tooling" like what they're planning with their >>Beast Wars Cartoon? > > what re-tooling is planned? i thought the last handful of eps > from the last season was great... Check out the Transformers newsgroups to see why everybody's pissed-- Beast Wars is being turned into Beast Wars Generation 2 and the storyline is being dumbed down to get some of that Power Rangers money. Mr. Smiley! .... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.27 --------------- From: Zzarana@aol.com Subject: Re: New to list Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:49:04 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Welcome Tim, I hope you like it here, just jump right in a conversation if you have anything to say. ~Zz --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.28 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: New Comic Books Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:52:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain All right everyone... List anyways that I can get the new comic books if a comic book store is inconvenient and Benchpress does not have a subscription service... Particularly, are there any reliable mail order companies that won't gouge... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.29 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: Zarana Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:18:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain WHO HAS SOMETHING TO SAY? I do...when is the new book going to arrive and how will I get them? --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n736.30 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: RE: New Comic Books Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:21:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I said this... > ---------- > From: Eric Leavitt[SMTP:ELeavitt@alliedbenefit.com] > Reply To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 2:52 PM > To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Subject: New Comic Books > > All right everyone... > > List anyways that I can get the new comic books if a comic book store is > inconvenient and Benchpress does not have a subscription service... > > Particularly, are there any reliable mail order companies that won't > gouge... > > I just want to comment on my own grammar. My grammar was poor. --------------- END gijoe.v001.n736 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n737 -------------- 001 - Eric Leavitt Subject: Grammar Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:22:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain The latest edition of the Oxford dictionary says it is now permissible to dangle participles. What will English teachers do? --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.2 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:27:00 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 2:03:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, jmmcfadd@yahoo.com writes: << One more thing, people. Was that the actual cover? It says Joe Jusko is doing the cover, and that doesn't look like his artwork. >> no, thats the art for the poster, by Ron Lim. The Issue Cover will be *fully* painted!!! BTB, this comic book has complete autonomy, and this is from the Editor-in- Chief, on subject matter, characters, and uniforms. I'm guessing if Hasbro ever puts out another GIJoe toyline, these books will be used to push them, bt for now, they're on their own. Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.3 --------------- From: TimElf@aol.com Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:50:15 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 3:47:57 PM Central Standard Time, BespinRunt@aol.com writes: > BTB, this comic book has complete autonomy, and this is from the Editor-in- > Chief, on subject matter, characters, and uniforms. I'm guessing if Hasbro > ever puts out another GIJoe toyline, these books will be used to push them, > bt > for now, they're on their own. THIS excites me. Because the stories where Larry was just writing good stories and not having to introduce new characters and vehicles were the absolute best. Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.4 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:16:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow! I'm pretty excited that we are getting TWO new series. Yeah, I know someone mentioned it before, but now we have actual confirmation. Now, a question for Mr. Hama: If you're out there, Larry, could you let us know what the second comic book is? G.I. Joe: Strike Force is the title, but I'm guessing it's similar to the Special Missions series. Yes? No? Maybe? JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.5 --------------- From: "man9" Subject: G.I. Joe and Bench Press Comics Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:41:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I went ahead and explored their site a little (www.benchcomics.com), taking a quick glance at the Q&A, etc. NO news on either G.I. Joe or Transformers, yet. But from what I read it looks like they rarely update their site anyway. First, it seems that the *only* way to get the comics for now (and, it seems to imply, for a while to come) is through your local comic shop (because of both distributor agreements and manpower required to do that). Just request them from your comic shop. Second, I noticed that right now they have a plan where you can mail in any BP comic and get it signed. Meaning that if they still have that going by April (which I imagine they will), you can get your G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero #1 and G.I. Joe: Strike Force #1 signed by the artists and writers, including, I assume, Larry Hama. Hell, you can probably get every issue signed until they quit doing it. All you have to do is include a self-addressed stamped mailing enveloped. I imagine they'll also sign the poster if you include the proper mailing packing and postage. Third ... I must say, from what I see I don't like Hellcat Web Design. At ALL... (check out the Convention Section ... ugh!) Shipwreck --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.6 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:16:48 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 5:33:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, jmmcfadd@yahoo.com writes: << Yeah, I know someone mentioned it before, but now we have actual confirmation. >> Hey! The name's Straight-Edge. I hope you dont forget it, because if I can help it, I'll be trying my best to bring you the most up-to-date and accurate info on these books. My girlfriend, and myself, are good friends of Benny Powell. I have known about the comics, and Hama getting the job of penning them, since June. I was asked to keep it all secret, and still managed to get word of Bench Press out to the public. I'm not asking for worship, or even friendship, just an acknowledgement that I was the one that brought you all this info (the "two comic deal", the poster offer -- which NO ONE else has mentioned before me, as I just learned of the details today--- and I was the one feeding Rod Hannah all the info that prompted him to interview Hama about the new book) .. all from Bench Press themselves. I just want a little respect. Just know my name. I'll shut up now. Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.7 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: G.I. Joe and Bench Press Comics Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:26:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:41 PM 11/2/98 -0600, you wrote: > Second, I noticed that right now they have a plan where you can mail in >any BP comic and get it signed. Meaning that if they still have that going >by April (which I imagine they will), you can get your G.I. Joe: A Real >American Hero #1 and G.I. Joe: Strike Force #1 signed by the artists and >writers, including, I assume, Larry Hama. Hell, you can probably get every >issue signed until they quit doing it. All you have to do is include a >self-addressed stamped mailing enveloped. I imagine they'll also sign the >poster if you include the proper mailing packing and postage. That's a pretty cool offer, a good way to give a little extra to the fans. I hope they're still doing it in April when GI Joe debuts. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.8 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:32:24 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, now I feel a little stupid, cuz I just checked out the update on Yo Joe.com, and they clearly posted my name, thanking me for the info. :-) Thanks guys. All I wanted was a little recognition. :-) sXe --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.9 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:43:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811022319.PAA27596@lists1.best.com> At 06:16 PM 02/11/98 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 11/2/98 5:33:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, >jmmcfadd@yahoo.com writes: > ><< Yeah, I > know someone mentioned it before, but now we have actual confirmation. >> >Hey! The name's Straight-Edge. I hope you dont forget it, because if I can >help it, I'll be trying my best to bring you the most up-to-date and accurate >info on these books. My girlfriend, and myself, are good friends of Benny >Powell. I have known about the comics, and Hama getting the job of penning >them, since June. I was asked to keep it all secret, and still managed to get >word of Bench Press out to the public. I'm not asking for worship, or even >friendship, just an acknowledgement that I was the one that brought you all >this info (the "two comic deal", the poster offer -- which NO ONE else has >mentioned before me, as I just learned of the details today--- and I was the >one feeding Rod Hannah all the info that prompted him to interview Hama about >the new book) .. all from Bench Press themselves. >I just want a little respect. Just know my name. > >I'll shut up now. >Straight-Edge > Of course we respect ya man! who wouldn't respact the man who brought us the info? *big hug for Straight Edge* *giggle* I do that lot... just ask EEJ... thanks man Bullet "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hooper --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.10 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: a burning question... Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 18:01:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Okay, One thing has been bothering me since I started looking up joe on the internet six months ago. Hawk is often referred to by fans of Duke as a Duke look a like. okay, if we look at the tooys: Hawk available '83, Duke: '84 if we look at the comic :Hawk was in issue #1... Duke didn't show up until #22... (we won't look at the toon cuz as we all know, they were idiots and gave Hawk dark hair... he looks much better as a blonde...) As a die hard Hawk fan (him and shipwreck... and Zartan... three best looking men in the whole series), I am finding it difficult to see Hawk as a Duke lookalike when he came out BEFORE Duke. wouldn't that make Duke the HAWK lookalike? just had to ask May Hawk lead the joes forever. Bullet "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hooper --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.11 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:01:27 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 7:00:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, forrister@sk.sympatico.ca writes: << Of course we respect ya man! who wouldn't respact the man who brought us the info? *big hug for Straight Edge* >> WooHooHooHoo!! Forget respect! That hug made it all worthwhile! ;-) Peas, sXe --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.12 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: a burning question... Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:28:40 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 7:16:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, forrister@sk.sympatico.ca writes: << Okay, One thing has been bothering me since I started looking up joe on the internet six months ago. Hawk is often referred to by fans of Duke as a Duke look a like. okay, if we look at the tooys: Hawk available '83, Duke: '84 if we look at the comic :Hawk was in issue #1... Duke didn't show up until #22... (we won't look at the toon cuz as we all know, they were idiots and gave Hawk dark hair... he looks much better as a blonde...)>> I think he dyes it brown later in the comic cuz he's going gray, but Hawk is always best known as the blonde-haired battle-leadin' butt-kickin' General of GIJoe!!! << As a die hard Hawk fan (him and shipwreck... and Zartan... three best looking men in the whole series), I am finding it difficult to see Hawk as a Duke lookalike when he came out BEFORE Duke. wouldn't that make Duke the HAWK lookalike? just had to ask May Hawk lead the joes forever. >> Funny thing is, Hawk looks next to nothing like Duke. -Hawk has a flat-top. Duke has a crew cut. -Hawk has an OD Green Uniform, and later a Bomber Jacket. Duke had a tan shirt. -Hawk kicked ass and took names. Duke cried cuz he got his ass kicked, and his name took. Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.13 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:54:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---BespinRunt@aol.com wrote: >Hey! The name's Straight-Edge. I hope you dont >forget it, because if I can help it, I'll be trying my >best to bring you the most up-to-date and accurate >info on these books. You've got my respect. I just forgot who it was... And soon, I'll put a mini-comics page up on my site, with the summaries you so kindly wrote! Later. JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.14 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:13:35 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 8:12:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, jmmcfadd@yahoo.com writes: << You've got my respect. I just forgot who it was... And soon, I'll put a mini-comics page up on my site, with the summaries you so kindly wrote! >> Cool! ::Loking at my watch:: Is my fifteen minutes of fame up yet? ;-) sXe --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.15 --------------- From: ralarcon@skyinet.net Subject: Joe Comics Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:18:43 +0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,WOW Love the cover ;)))))) It's better than I expected it to be.I just hope it won't be like the last few issues of the original line.I hated it because the artwork is not that Realistic (e.g. The guns look like it came from ???) Bring Back the REAL-LOOKING GUNS :))))))))))heheheh~ just my 2 cents.. ..plus 1.50 handling and 48 bucks fedex... Good Luck, Richard *buries back to work* > >With this in mind, I would think it would be appropriate for Richard to >turn some sort of profit on this situation. He's put in a great deal of effort and >legwork (literally, it sounds) and I think it's something we should >consider when finalizing costs and totals... > It's not really profit, it's just so I won't end up footing the bill :) I also considered the weakening US$, in case it drops again ;( --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.16 --------------- From: EVILFACE74@aol.com Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:51:18 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Here it is, on four-color review: 4-Color Review http://4colorreview.simplenet.com/ Its all there.. every word 100% truth... and the first Bench Press Joe art as well. Enjoy all Straight-Edge >> Finally, a GI Joe comic with good art AND coloring. EVILFACE http://members.tripod.com/EVILFACE/Home.htm --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.17 --------------- From: "Danielle N. Barese" Subject: Re: Grammar Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:12:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:22 PM 11/2/98 -0600, you wrote: >The latest edition of the Oxford dictionary says it is now permissible to >dangle participles. What will English teachers do? I don't know about those other English teachers out there, but for one, I only correct grammar for money, and for another, I'm sure I've dangled a few myself now and again. Just out of curiousity, what does Webster have to say about all this? Dani --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.18 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: SW2000 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:26:22 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << I imagine you'll see a similar chain of ups and downs through the next 6 years... but forever? Nah. >> Humm six might be an underestimation. 6 years per movie perhaps. For you kids who haven't heard there will be a grand total of 9 Star Wars movies. 3 trilogies. If the mainia for the next 2 trilogies follow the pattern of the original...I imagine you'll see a similar chain of ups and downs through the next fifty (50!!!) years...and that's pretty much forever as far as a toyline is concerned. Damn is it great to be a dork! --Goofbacca --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.19 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:38:55 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << The 1985 is the last Snake-Eyes uniform that was any good in my opinion... >> I still like the spike-nuckled-butterfly-knifes-magically-adheared-to-the- chest Snake-Eyes. I'm not complaining! Ron Lim pencils on HELL of an '85!!! I still have quite a few of Ron's Silver Surfer issues. He draws the definitive SS artist in my book. SS just wasn't ever the same for me after Ron left. Hey, judging by that cover on 4-Color Ron looks to be THE definitive Snake-Eyes artist. This book's gonna ROCK!!! --The Tick "SPOON!" --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.20 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: (Fwd) initial Computations: feasible ? Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:47:27 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I completely agree. Richard is showing dedication above and beyond the call of duty. Maybe someone should whip up some sort of medal for him also? If he gets modest we can just shove it all down his throut ;D --Captian Dingleberry PMS: Monthly SMS: Physical Training (squats) Current Assignment: JLF --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.21 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Grammar Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:51:44 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My participles have dangled all my life...i never saw any reason to make them stop dangling in the first place. --Snotty Lil' Pervert --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.22 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:56:01 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << have known about the comics, and Hama getting the job of penning them, since June. I was asked to keep it all secret, >> WHY YOU LIL' SNOT!!! ;D --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.23 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: a burning question... Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:01:17 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << (we won't look at the toon cuz as we all know, they were idiots and gave Hawk dark hair... he looks much better as a blonde...) As a die hard Hawk fan (him and shipwreck... and Zartan... three best looking men in the whole series)>> Oh, god i hope your a girl! <> Oh, good :) (And i'm this hyper WITHOUT the Cherry Pepsi tonite!) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.24 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: a burning question... Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:03:17 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << -Hawk kicked ass and took names. Duke cried cuz he got his ass kicked, and his name took. >> Yes...he did didn't he...guess we know why he's not in command... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.25 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:06:13 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Cool! ::Loking at my watch:: Is my fifteen minutes of fame up yet? ;-) sXe >> Aw, we all know you're the best. Now chill before your head swells so big is bursts like a wad of Tropical Tango ;D --seXy --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.26 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Grammar Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:09:23 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Just out of curiousity, what does Webster have to say about all this? Dani >> Webster??? Why the hell you bringin' that lil' midget mutant into this? --Sugar Rush --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.27 --------------- From: Zzarana@aol.com Subject: Re: a burning question... Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:14:08 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 11:12:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, BADSCNAME@aol.com writes: << Oh, god i hope your a girl! >> she is and so am I! Woo hoo Zartan! Grrrrrr...... Jenna --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.28 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: a burning question... Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 22:31:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811030403.UAA26532@lists1.best.com> At 11:01 PM 02/11/98 EST, you wrote: ><< (we won't look at the toon cuz as we all know, they were idiots and gave > Hawk dark hair... he looks much better as a blonde...) > As a die hard Hawk fan (him and shipwreck... and Zartan... three best > looking men in the whole series)>> > >Oh, god i hope your a girl! NO! I'm a woman... > > < "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... > There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman > > "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral > Grace Hooper >> > >Oh, good :) >(And i'm this hyper WITHOUT the Cherry Pepsi tonite!) > "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hooper --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.29 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: a burning question... Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:33:17 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 8:29:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, Zzarana@aol.com writes: << Jenna >> Cute name...and no, i'm not a girl. --Pinky --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n737.30 --------------- From: Zzarana@aol.com Subject: Re: a burning question... Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:48:13 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 11:46:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, BADSCNAME@aol.com writes: << Cute name...and no, i'm not a girl. --Pinky >> I didn't think so, but it is good to know. and thanks, I like it too. ~Zz Jenna --------------- END gijoe.v001.n737 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n738 -------------- 001 - "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: 80's children Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:31:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 From: BespinRunt@aol.com Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 3:06 PM >>> I'm not turning it into a racial argument, I'm just >>> saying that if a show has just one female character, >>> they usually have just one black character too. It's >>> called tokenism. > But do you agree that this show could not possibly > have produced that kind of tolkenism? It's amazing how we go from racism accusations to comparing Smurfs to Hobbits...let's just drop the whole thing, shall we? Yeah, I know it's probably over by now...but I had to say that... Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNj5c/sSNrCBK3ASDEQKqwQCdHcjitu+8hWeVGFnYZQd5bjIR/hYAoPkl wQKxmpKtiHhu1bqSlL+F7upF =hXOu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.2 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: A burning... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:00:32 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey! I fell like a cheerful round of female bashing tonight! Remember we're just gonna trade witty banter so don't take it personal and get a brusied ego (and yes, girls do have egos!). Winner is the writer of the most eloquent insult. In a perfect world, we'd find some way of relating this to GIJoe. I shall begin the festivities by quoting Phillip Marlowe: A woman will lie about anything, just to stay in practice. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.3 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: the numbers of joe comics sold Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:46:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I was wondering if anyone knows what the circulation of the comic was back in the day, or if there is a website that lists year by year what the top selling comics were of the past 20 years. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.4 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:46:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:43 PM 11/2/98 -0600, you wrote: >Of course we respect ya man! >who wouldn't respact the man who brought us the info? >*big hug for Straight Edge* > >*giggle* I do that lot... just ask EEJ... > >thanks man >Bullet Yeah, but will you respect Staright Edge in the morning? -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.5 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: SW2000 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:46:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:26 PM 11/2/98 EST, you wrote: ><< I imagine you'll see a similar chain of ups and downs through the next > 6 years... but forever? Nah. >> > >Humm six might be an underestimation. 6 years per movie perhaps. For you >kids who haven't heard there will be a grand total of 9 Star Wars movies. 3 >trilogies. If the mainia for the next 2 trilogies follow the pattern of the >original...I imagine you'll see a similar chain of ups and downs through the >next fifty (50!!!) years...and that's pretty much forever as far as a toyline >is concerned. Damn is it great to be a dork! >--Goofbacca Well when Star Wars was first out 20 years ago, George Lucas said there were 12 movies in the series. Later after ROTJ had come out he said 9 movies. Then when the big THX video re-release came out in his interview with Leonard Maltin and in the new introduction to the trilogy novelizations he said there would be 6. If he has changed his mind again and its back to 9, remember it took 16 years for him to do new movies, if that repeats for a 3rd trilogy, Lucas would be in his 70s by then and possibly be dead! Then his kids would license out the franchise and milk it into oblivion, so guess dead or alive as long there is a buck to be made SW will be here. See-Geek-P-O --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.6 --------------- From: Zzarana@aol.com Subject: Re: A burning... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:03:42 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A man will screw anything, just to stay in practice! ~Zz --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.7 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: a burning question... Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:40:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:03 PM 11/2/98 EST, you wrote: ><< -Hawk kicked ass and took names. > Duke cried cuz he got his ass kicked, and his name took. >> > >Yes...he did didn't he...guess we know why he's not in command... When did that happen? --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.8 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: the numbers of joe comics sold Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:24:28 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199811030547.VAA21821@lists1.best.com> John A Woods wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone knows what the circulation of the comic was back > in the day, or if there is a website that lists year by year what the top > selling comics were of the past 20 years. > > -John If I remembered correctly, every comic was required to have a statement of how many issues it printed, sold , circulated, distributed etc. for the year, I think this was in compliance with some U.S govt regulation and this statement was printed in the comic itself. My joe comics are stashed away in a box so I'm kinda lazy to look up the actual figures until the weekend but anyone with the comics can find these figures, it's usually printed on the letters page. Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.9 --------------- From: Richard Mustakos Subject: Re: Cobra De Aco filecard/Foreign Filecards Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 06:00:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199811022121.NAA28788@lists1.best.com> My wife is from Brazil. If Some one can scan me a copy, or if anyone will type it in, I'll get her to translate it. ... > All of the filecards from Brazil are going to be in Portuguese(sp?) > if that helps. > > -- Well, on to the next question: Anyone here speak Portuguese? --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.10 --------------- From: "Robert Culpepper" Subject: Cartoon RPG Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:07:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tonight, the Cartoon RPG group will be springing into action on the IRC. The group deploys to irc.dal.net on channel #Joe_RPG at 8pm EST. For more information and details on the cartoon RPG, go to the home page at http://members.xoom.com/shipshape1/joe_rpg . Tonight, some of the Joes are going on vacation... but will they make it there without a firefight? Robert Culpepper Code Name: Eagle Eye IRC RPG: GeneralHawk --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.11 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: The Confirmation: GIJoe: The Comic Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:39:55 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/98 11:06:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, BADSCNAME@aol.com writes: << < have known about the comics, and Hama getting the job of penning them, since June. I was asked to keep it all secret, >> WHY YOU LIL' SNOT!!! ;D >> hey hey! Ha I told you all back then, possible doubts about Bench Press Studios might have gotten back to Hasbro, and threatened the contracts. But what little info I did leak was expanded by my good friend Rod, and gave you guys the few tidbits that kept excitement about the book alive until the announcement.. I really did the best I could. :-) Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.12 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: A burning... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:48:08 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/3/98 1:10:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, Zzarana@aol.com writes: << A man will screw anything, just to stay in practice! >> amen --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.13 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: SW2000 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:47:49 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/3/98 1:02:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, woods01@islandnet.com writes: << Well when Star Wars was first out 20 years ago, George Lucas said there were 12 movies in the series. Later after ROTJ had come out he said 9 movies. Then when the big THX video re-release came out in his interview with Leonard Maltin and in the new introduction to the trilogy novelizations he said there would be 6. If he has changed his mind again and its back to 9, remember it took 16 years for him to do new movies, if that repeats for a 3rd trilogy, Lucas would be in his 70s by then and possibly be dead! >> Actually, the most official comment from Lucas about another trilogy has been "We'll see how this one goes first." What does this mean? That right now all he has planned are three more movies, Episodes I, 2, and 3. period. *IF* theymake enough money, I think he'll go back an make up another storyline, then try to pass it off as something he had planned for a long time. Lets face it, with the Expanded universe in novels, comics, and video games, the post-"Jedi" lives of the main charcters have drifted further from Lucas' vision than anyone could possibly expect. Hell, Luke is supposedly married! If Lucas wants to make a Trilogy set after these novels, he'll have to take all of this into account, r risk the complete alienation of his fanbase, and the downfall of his monetary empire. For now, the prequels are our only problem, cuz Lucas will not just jump into another trilogy wihout some serious thinking first Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.14 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: a burning question... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:20:35 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/3/98 12:37:19 AM !!!First Boot!!!, BespinRunt@aol.com writes: << Hawk has a flat-top. Duke has a crew cut. -Hawk has an OD Green Uniform, and later a Bomber Jacket. Duke had a tan shirt. -Hawk kicked ass and took names. Duke cried cuz he got his ass kicked, and his name took. Straight-Edge >> ROTFL --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.15 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: A burning... Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:44:48 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199811030605.WAA05573@lists1.best.com> Zzarana@aol.com wrote: > > A man will screw anything, just to stay in practice! > > ~Zz Practice makes perfect! :) Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.16 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: A burning... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:49:27 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ouch, ouch, ouch - Zzaranz wins that one ouch, ouch, ouch --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.17 --------------- From: TimElf@aol.com Subject: Re: the numbers of joe comics sold Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:02:04 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/3/98 12:00:17 AM Central Standard Time, woods01@islandnet.com writes: > I was wondering if anyone knows what the circulation of the comic was back > in the day, or if there is a website that lists year by year what the top > selling comics were of the past 20 years. Once a year, in the comics, there was a publishers' statement, that would show what the sales were. If someone's really interested, I could dig out my old comics and look for the last time that appeared. Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.18 --------------- From: ralarcon@skyinet.net Subject: Joe Comic Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:35:40 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In-Reply-To: <199811022121.NAA28788@lists1.best.com> Hi, WOW Love the cover ;)))))) It's better than I expected it to be.I just hope it won't be like the last few issues of the original line.I hated it because the artwork is not that Realistic (e.g. The guns look like it came from ???) Bring Back the REAL-LOOKING GUNS :)))))))))) heheheh~ just my 2 cents.. ...plus 1.50 handling and 48 bucks fedex... Good Luck, Richard *buries back to work* > >With this in mind, I would think it would be appropriate for Richard to >turn some sort of profit on this situation. He's put in a great deal of effort and >legwork (literally, it sounds) and I think it's something we should >consider when finalizing costs and totals... > It's not really profit, it's just so I won't end up footing the bill :) I also considered the weakening US$, in case it drops again ;( --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.19 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: oh, a challenge... Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 08:33:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811030526.VAA21753@lists1.best.com> At 12:00 AM 03/11/98 EST, you wrote: >Hey! I fell like a cheerful round of female bashing tonight! Remember we're >just gonna trade witty banter so don't take it personal and get a brusied ego >(and yes, girls do have egos!). Winner is the writer of the most eloquent >insult. In a perfect world, we'd find some way of relating this to GIJoe. I >shall begin the festivities by quoting Phillip Marlowe: > >A woman will lie about anything, just to stay in practice. > > *sigh* Must men turn EVERYTHING into a battle of half wits? Well, if you so insist: A man went to a brain surgen to see about a brain transplant. The surgen and him talked and finally they came to the subject of price. "Well sir, price really depends on whether you wan a male or female brain. The male brian would be $10,000. The female brain is on $1000." "Why is the female brain so inexpenisve?" he man asked. "Because the female brain has been used." okay, so I'm having serious problems being eleoquent. its really funny if you switch the man for Duke, the surgen for Doc and the brains as Clutch and Scarlett ^^ Bullet "I shall be an autocrat; that's my trade. And the good Lord will forgive me; that's His." - Catherin the Great --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.20 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: oh, a challenge... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:46:19 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << okay, so I'm having serious problems being eleoquent. its really funny if you switch the man for Duke, the surgen for Doc and the brains as Clutch and Scarlett >> Duh? --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.21 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: oh, a challenge... Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 06:56:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199811031433.GAA14551@lists1.best.com> forrister@sk.sympatico.ca wrote: > > *sigh* Must men turn EVERYTHING into a battle of half wits? We have to make the playing field level for women by using only half our brains. > Well, if you so insist: > > A man went to a brain surgen to see about a brain transplant. Why didn't he go to a surgeon? > The surgen and him talked and finally they came to the subject of price. Yes, they talked about Vincent Price. > "Well sir, price really depends on whether you wan a male or female brain. What about a male or female Pinky? > The male brian would be $10,000. The female Brian would be a transvestite. Thank you, I'll be here all week. > The female brain is on $1000." Y'know, they really shouldn't be keeping it on a small pile of 100 dollar bills. > "Why is the female brain so inexpenisve?" he man asked. Because a quality product costs more. > "Because the female brain has been used." ...to manipulate men. > > okay, so I'm having serious problems being eleoquent. Really? I hadn't noticed? > its really funny if you switch the man for Duke, the surgen for Doc and the > brains as Clutch and Scarlett ^^ Ah, no it isn't. > > Bullet > "I shall be an autocrat; that's my trade. And the good Lord will forgive > me; that's His." - Catherin the Great -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.22 --------------- From: ralarcon@skyinet.net Subject: *choke* :O Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:23:40 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In-Reply-To: <199811030449.UAA08044@lists1.best.com> *ack* *cough* *choke* *kack* *gag* *Choke* (..reminds me of the time Snake-Eyes Stuffed a GI Joe Comic down a mugger's throat in one of the Joe Yearbooks...) *buries back to negotiating* Richard --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.23 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: oh, a challenge... Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 09:15:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811031449.GAA20635@lists1.best.com> At 09:46 AM 03/11/98 EST, you wrote: ><< okay, so I'm having serious problems being eleoquent. > its really funny if you switch the man for Duke, the surgen for Doc and the > brains as Clutch and Scarlett >> > >Duh? > a typical man's response, ne? *giggle* "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hooper --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.24 --------------- From: Corey & Angela Stinson Subject: Re: oh, a challenge... Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 09:17:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <199811031433.GAA14551@lists1.best.com> In-Reply-To: <199811031457.GAA23854@lists1.best.com> The list is straying far, _far_ off topic again... :( -- _________________________________________________________________________ // Corey Stinson || stinson@anet-stl.com \\ \\ Systems Programmer || corey@masterclock.com // // Real-Time Applications & Embedded Systems || \\ \\ GUI Application Development || // // World Wide Web & CGI Development || \\ \\ C/C++/Visual C++ (MFC)/Assembler || // // DOS/Windows 3.x '95 NT/Netware/Un*x || \\ \\ ------------------------------------------++----------------------------// // No Love Stronger / No Pain Greater / No Hate Deeper / The Church Within \\ \\____- The Obsessed ______________________________________________________// --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.25 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Re: oh, a challenge... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:20:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>Winner is the writer of the most eloquent insult. Okay. Jack Nicholson in "As Good As It Gets". He's an author and when a woman asks how he writes female characters so well: "I think of a man and then I take away reason and accountability." JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.26 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: FYI Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:30:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain We need to get this back on track... Keep the personal jokes to personal e-mail...it reminds me of my train ride home from work last night...this couple were very loud and explicit about their private encounter for that evening...they were loud and obnoxious. Poor taste. Well... Lara Hama said the other new book is going to be seperate individual stories something like "Special Missions". --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.27 --------------- From: TimElf@aol.com Subject: Looking for... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:58:18 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, everyone. I'm looking for a few things and hope someone on this list can help me out. First, I'd like to boost my Cobra army so when I eventually set up that huge diorama in my garage, Cobra doesn't look dinky... So I need some more grunt troops - Alley-vipers, Frag-vipers, HEAT-vipers, plain vanilla Vipers (though I'll get some of those with the new 3-packs), or even some old Cobra soldiers or officers (or other vipers I've forgotten - just no space, sea or arctic stuff). I'm also missing some parts: Jinx - parts, other than backpack (someone robbed the figure at the store) Scarlett (v.1) - crotch (I'll be very surprised if anyone has this, but thought I'd ask...) Gung-Ho (v.1) - black grenade launcher Comics: I need #150 and #155 I'll be willing to pay reasonable cash for any of this. For trade, all I currently have is a used video - The Revenge of Cobra (1984) and G.I. Joe Special Missions #2 (awesome issue - revealed Clutch is Jewish, includes the Israeli Mossad team-up, Firefly, etc.). I'm pretty sure I have a spare original helmeted Cobra Commander, but I need to look, so if anyone wants one of those and has something I need, let me know. (If this is the wrong place to post this, let me know that, too!) Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.28 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: oh, a challenge... Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:45:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <199811031433.GAA14551@lists1.best.com> In-Reply-To: <199811031457.GAA23854@lists1.best.com> >Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen > >"We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in >tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin > that's a very interesting quote coming from someone who just quelched every line of my joke I refuse to comment on the rest of your email, as it is below my intelligence and maturity level Bullet "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hooper --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.29 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: FYI Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:46:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811031631.IAA06755@lists1.best.com> At 10:30 AM 03/11/98 -0600, you wrote: >We need to get this back on track... > >Keep the personal jokes to personal e-mail...it reminds me of my train ride >home from work last night...this couple were very loud and explicit about >their private encounter for that evening...they were loud and obnoxious. >Poor taste. > >Well... > >Lara Hama said the other new book is going to be seperate individual stories >something like "Special Missions". > oo, cool! sorry for straying off topic I'll be a good girl from now on promise ^^ "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hooper --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n738.30 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: Freedom Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:20:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Freedom carries immense personal responsibility. Without it, responsible people, society is left with anarchy. - Eric Leavitt 1998 --------------- END gijoe.v001.n738 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n739 -------------- 001 - John A Woods - Re: dessert scorpion 012 - Veritech1A@webtv.net (Rod - Re: Curiousity 013 - SNARF5181@aol.com - Re: Curiousity 014 - SNARF5181@aol.com - Re: I need some comics... 015 - SNARF5181@aol.com - Re: SW2000 016 - rktmoose@ix.netcom.com - Re: Curiousity 017 - forrister@sk.sympatico.ca - Re: Curiousity 018 - BespinRunt@aol.com - Re: SW2000 019 - BespinRunt@aol.com - Re: dessert scorpion 020 - Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: the numbers of joe comics sold Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:27:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:24 PM 11/3/98 +0700, you wrote: >If I remembered correctly, every comic was required to have a statement >of how many issues it printed, sold , circulated, distributed etc. for >the year, I think this was in compliance with some U.S govt regulation >and this statement was printed in the comic itself. My joe comics are >stashed away in a box so I'm kinda lazy to look up the actual figures >until the weekend but anyone with the comics can find these figures, >it's usually printed on the letters page. Yeah I've read that a few times and that is what got me interested in the number of sales, but I think I'd rather know what its sales were in comparison to other books of the time. Are there top 20 lists of comic sales anywhere? -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.2 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: I need some comics... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:41:56 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok here 's what I got off your want list: GI JOE - 146 GI JOE Special Missions - 8,9,10 GI JOE European Missions - 8 I am in most need of # 91 I'm sure we can figure something out --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.3 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: Curiousity Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:04:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Okay...I'm curious...who remembers ... 1. Their first Joe comic... 2. Their first Joe figure... 3. Their first Joy vehicle or playset... I want to see what it was and when it was gotten and perhaps how old you were at the time. This could be interesting. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.4 --------------- From: "DeVoe, Gary (DEVOEGW)" Subject: RE: Curiousity Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:28:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: Eric Leavitt [SMTP:ELeavitt@alliedbenefit.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 2:05 PM To: gijoe@lists.best.com Subject: Curiousity Okay...I'm curious...who remembers ... 1. Their first Joe comic... 2. Their first Joe figure... 3. Their first Joy vehicle or playset... ------------> First "Joy?"...Now THERE's a Freudian slip - but a very understandable one...! -Triage --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.5 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: Curiousity Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:02:32 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/3/98 7:49:52 PM !!!First Boot!!!, ELeavitt@alliedbenefit.com writes: 1. Their first Joe comic... # 3 - "The Trojan Gambit" big robot in the Pit 2. Their first Joe figure...Snake Eyes - Straight Arm 3. Their first Joy vehicle or playset... MOBAT w/ Steeler Yippeeeeeeee! Tanks for the memories - no that was issue # 5 Steeler (Still trying to find a MOBAT that works) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.6 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Curiousity Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:00:21 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/3/98 2:49:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, ELeavitt@alliedbenefit.com writes: << 1. Their first Joe comic... 2. Their first Joe figure... 3. Their first Joy vehicle or playset... >> Well as a kid, I guess my first Joe figure and vehicle was Steeler w/ Mobat, 1982: but I was only three, so it must have been bought later on.. plus I had *two* Steelers, and both were straight armed! weird, cuz I have absolutely no memory, or remnants of either Mobat. My first comic was #34. I got it in a 10 books for a buck pack in the late 80's. Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.7 --------------- From: Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com Subject: dessert scorpion Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:02:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline TimElf is looking for a few things, one of them being: plain vanilla Vipers ...I didn't realize that the ice cream soldier came in a variety of flavors! :) Vanilla, too... nummy yummy. speaking of yummy, anyone happen to know off hand where the adam hughes scarlett pinup is hiding? came across it some time back and can't find it for the life of me now. one of the yearbooks, mayhaps? -Kj, fearful of neapolitan vipers --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.8 --------------- From: TimElf@aol.com Subject: Re: Curiousity Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:59:31 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/3/98 1:49:52 PM Central Standard Time, ELeavitt@alliedbenefit.com writes: > Okay...I'm curious...who remembers ... > > 1. Their first Joe comic... First read would be #11 (I think) where Gung-Ho, Snow Job & Doc were introduced. My first purchased issue was the famous #26. Ahhh, memories... > 2. Their first Joe figure... That would be either Flash or Snake-Eyes. I'm not sure which one I opened first. I got several GI Joe items for that birthday (I think I was 10) and those were the two figures. For a few days, I had to use Snake-Eyes as a bad guy since I hadn't gotten any Cobras yet... > 3. Their first Joy vehicle or playset... Either the FLAK cannon or the HAL. Next was the RAM! Yea! Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.9 --------------- From: "mrsmiley!" Subject: RE: New Comic Books Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 12:22:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >I just want to comment on my own grammar. My grammar was poor. We'll take up a collection. How is your grandpa set?.. Bad puns a specialty, Mr. Smiley! .... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.10 --------------- From: "Davis, Kyle x01276h3" Subject: RE: Curiosity Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:39:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain > ---------- > From: Eric Leavitt[SMTP:ELeavitt@alliedbenefit.com] > > Okay...I'm curious...who remembers ... > Oh, this is an easy one... > 1. Their first Joe comic... > "Cold Snap" ...don't remember the issue number (67?), but it's got Lady Jaye decking Flint on the cover and deals with the return of Stalker, Quick Kick, and Snow Job. I think I was 8 at the time. I really didn't know what was going on, but I still thought it was cool. Looking back, I really admire the torment that Outback was going through. Classic issue. My dad had sent me to the local news agency to get a paper, and he'd given me a little extra change for a candy bar... Well, I came home with a Joe comic instead! Heck, back then (in the good old days...), comics were only $0.65!! Man...wish they were that now... > 2. Their first Joe figure... > Barbecue. A friend gave it to me because he already had it when his mom gave it to him. > 3. Their first Joy vehicle or playset... > The bomb disposal...same reason as above. Again...I was 8. Can't remember, but I think that I got the comic after the toy... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.11 --------------- From: Eugene Subject: Re: dessert scorpion Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:51:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" In-Reply-To: <199811032008.MAA24508@lists1.best.com> At 3:02 PM -0500 11/3/98, Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com wrote: >speaking of yummy, anyone happen to know off hand where the >adam hughes scarlett pinup is hiding? came across it some >time back and can't find it for the life of me now. one >of the yearbooks, mayhaps? It was from the character profiles they did in the back of the G.I.Joe comics. I want to guess that it was somewhere from G.I.Joe #120-140 somewhere. The Hughes Scarlett pinup and the Perez Baroness pinup were QUITE cool. >-Kj, fearful of neapolitan vipers Ah! Look-out! They've got TOPPINGS! :) -Eugene ------------------------------------------------------------ eugenE | YO JOE! |--------------------------------------- eson(*)yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! ------------------------------------------------------------ "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" ------------------------------------------------------------ "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.12 --------------- From: Veritech1A@webtv.net (Rod Stuberg) Subject: Re: Curiousity Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:20:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Here are my answers: First comic: #51. Age:11 Year: 1989 First figure: 82 Flash. Age:5 Year: 1982 First Vehicle: VAMP Jeep. Age:6 Year: 1983 Budo --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.13 --------------- From: SNARF5181@aol.com Subject: Re: Curiousity Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:33:27 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/3/98 2:49:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, ELeavitt@alliedbenefit.com writes: << 1. Their first Joe comic ... easy--# 109 w/ saw-viper on the cover (I never had too many issues and started late, I probably only have 30 or so. my mom didn't think comics were good and thought that I shouldn't read them so I only had 8 by the time I was in sixth grade, but I showed her, now I have a collection of around 1200) 2. Their first Joe figure ... thunder, I believe 3. Their first Joy vehicle or playset ... the slugger>> --Snarf --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.14 --------------- From: SNARF5181@aol.com Subject: Re: I need some comics... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:54:52 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/1/98 10:26:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, dani@sonic.net writes: << Thought this would be the best venue to bring this up... I need 8 issues of Joe to complete my collection (not including SM or EM)... I would be willing to purchase them at a fair price or I would really like to trade... I have quite a few extras. Anyhoo, here's what I need: 90, 96, 103, 119, 120, 128, 134, 146. Here's my list of extras: 12, 53, 56, 59, 60, 80, 91, 93, 97, 105. 106, 115, 131, 138. I'd like to get the above issues first because they will complete the main series, but I also need the following: SPECIAL MISSIONS: 8-11; 13-27 & EUROPEAN MISSIONS: 2-10; 13 (yeah, I know that's a pretty wide range). I'd also be interested in any issues of ACTION FORCE... I don't have any of those and I was perusing the covers on yojoe and they looked really neat-o. If anyone is interested or can lend a hand, I'd love to be able to read 1-155 in their entirety before I ravenously jump into the new era in April. Thanks, Dani >> this is what i have : 128, 134 and what i need: 105, 106, 115, (whichever two of the three) --Snarf5181@aol.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.15 --------------- From: SNARF5181@aol.com Subject: Re: SW2000 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:57:11 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/3/98 6:59:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, BespinRunt@aol.com writes: << Hell, Luke is supposedly married! >> really? since when --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.16 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Curiousity Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:01:02 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Okay...I'm curious...who remembers ... > >1. Their first Joe comic... definately the one where Outback returns by himself after the others are captured ( not sure of the issue # ). and I got it about 1995 or so when I strted buying the comics to go with my toys. >2. Their first Joe figure... 1992 Barricade - I still have him carded and I bought him in 1993.( when I was 25 ). >3. Their first Joy vehicle or playset... didn't have one - the first I got was a collection I purchased and included a mint Terror Dome, Rattler, Night Raven, AWE Striker, WHALE, Thundermachine, various others. - rocketeer - --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.17 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: Curiousity Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 16:24:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811031905.LAA06552@lists1.best.com> At 01:04 PM 03/11/98 -0600, you wrote: >Okay...I'm curious...who remembers ... > >1. Their first Joe comic... Let's see... issue #28 I believe, and I won't reveal how old i was. A woman never tells her age >2. Their first Joe figure... Scarlett. First and ONLY figure... until this year. >3. Their first Joy vehicle or playset... never had any. it sucks being a girl > >I want to see what it was and when it was gotten and perhaps how old you >were at the time. This could be interesting. > "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hooper --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.18 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: SW2000 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:26:45 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/3/98 5:16:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, SNARF5181@aol.com writes: << really? since when >> The latest Star Wars book, Visions of the Future, saw Luke and Mara Jade finally admit their love for one another, and the book closes with Leia preparing for the wedding. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.19 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: dessert scorpion Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:28:54 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/3/98 3:46:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com writes: << speaking of yummy, anyone happen to know off hand where the adam hughes scarlett pinup is hiding? came across it some time back and can't find it for the life of me now. one of the yearbooks, mayhaps?>> If Adam Hughes' Scarlett pin-up was in the "Order of Battle follow-up" section of the later Joe books, the Dossiers, then its Issue #110. Straight-Edge, who has Scarlett's kick ass salute pic on his desktop... that gal is a knock-out! -Kj, fearful of neapolitan vipers >> --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.20 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: the numbers of joe comics sold Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 06:45:48 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199811031829.KAA12467@lists1.best.com> Comic shop news(a newsletter available at comic shops) normally has a top 20 comics list though you might find it difficult to find copies for that period as I doubt anyone would keep them. Also Comic Values monthly also had a top 20 comic list for the month. As far as I know and recall, G.I Joe was never in the top 20. Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.21 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: Curiousity Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:49:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First comic : GIJOE comics were only partly released and translated in Belgium,the first issue I got was with the story where The joes have to bomb an airfield and some ex joe/ordinary soldier helps them and gets tortured by the enemy.This guy ends up taking out the enemies SAM's in a suicide crash,also killing the ennemies commander. Anybody know what I'm talking about? First Joe : Footloose v1 First vehicle : Stinger Jeep AWESOME First playset : Battle platform Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.22 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: Curiousity Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:54:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Aan: gijoe@lists.best.com Datum: dinsdag 3 november 1998 23:51 Onderwerp: Re: Curiousity >At 01:04 PM 03/11/98 -0600, you wrote: >>Okay...I'm curious...who remembers ... I forgot !!!! I was 9 years old when I was introduced to joes by seeing a joe catalog in a local toy store. A few days after that I got Footloose.(since he looked the most like an actual soldier.) Never looked back.... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.23 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: TRU clearence Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:29:42 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TRU has finally marked down the Stars and strips and the vehicles and get this just put out more 97 three packs/deluxe weapon sets....sheeeshhh Steeler - wondering if this is the push before the 98's --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.24 --------------- From: Marco Soeima Subject: Re: Digest gijoe.v001.n736 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:40:27 +0000 (WET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199811022121.NAA28788@lists1.best.com> From: Hyperion Subject: Re: Cobra De Aco filecard/Foreign Filecards Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 05:58:37 +1000 > > All of the filecards from Brazil are going to be in Portuguese(sp?) > > if that helps. > > > > -- > > Well, on to the next question: Anyone here speak Portuguese? Yep. I do. If you'd like some help translating the file cards (or any other material in Portuguese) I'd be more than happy to help you -- or anyone else -- out. -- ----------------< Marco Soeima >---------------- University of Lisbon - Faculty of Science Computer Science Department - Computer Science -----------< msoeima@mail.telepac.pt >---------- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.25 --------------- From: Marco Soeima Subject: Re: Digest gijoe.v001.n736 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:40:36 +0000 (WET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199811022121.NAA28788@lists1.best.com> From: Eric Leavitt Subject: New Comic Books Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:52:42 -0600 > All right everyone... > > List anyways that I can get the new comic books if a comic book store is > inconvenient and Benchpress does not have a subscription service... > > Particularly, are there any reliable mail order companies that won't > gouge... I believe this has already been mentioned (by Straight-Edge, if memory serves me correct), but why not give Mile High Comics a try? About 2/3 years ago I was having trouble finding comics here in Lisbon so I decided to subscribe to Mile High's N.I.C.E. comic service. I didn't get my comics directly from Marvel because, for some reason, they charge an extra $12 a title for their foreign costumers. Anyway, to make a long story short, I found them to have a VERY GOOD service. All comics were shipped in a hard cardboard box (each comic was wrapped in plastic) and with each order they included a free back issue price guide, computerised invoice, discount cupons (usually for back issues), etc. The only reason I stopped buying them from Mile High was because: a) I collected Spider-Man comics, and around that time the clone saga was really kicking into gear; b) I eventually found (quite by accident) 2 comic shops in my area. So, if you can't make it to your local comic place, I suggest giving the guys at Mile High a try. Hope this helps. -- ----------------< Marco Soeima >---------------- University of Lisbon - Faculty of Science Computer Science Department - Computer Science -----------< msoeima@mail.telepac.pt >---------- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.26 --------------- From: Calvin Woo Subject: Re: TRU clearence Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:13:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199811032331.PAA00380@lists1.best.com> What did they mark it down to? Calvin On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 JSMosby61@aol.com wrote: > TRU has finally marked down the Stars and strips and the vehicles and get this > just put out more 97 three packs/deluxe weapon sets....sheeeshhh > > > Steeler - wondering if this is the push before the 98's > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.27 --------------- From: GIJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: TRU clearence Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:39:08 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found Stars and Stripes for $20 and Rages for $15. Nothing else was marked down. No A-10's are on the shelves anymore in my area. Around Memorial Day (end of May for those of you who don't know the US holidays) I found S&S on clearance for $21 and A-10s for $16.70 adn bought 3 a-10's. THat was the last time I saw the planes, and it was only at the one TRU in Vienna, VA. I never saw an a-10 again anywhere nor did I see any other sets for clearance prices until the rage this week. Are Commando sets still around, I can only find Cobra and Artic sets. All three of the small vehicles are still around too but they are still $10. JOhn M. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.28 --------------- From: TimElf@aol.com Subject: Re: the numbers of joe comics sold Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:39:12 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/3/98 5:09:09 PM, anasira@pc.jaring.my writes: >Comic shop news(a newsletter available at comic shops) normally has a >top 20 comics list though you might find it difficult to find copies for >that period as I doubt anyone would keep them. Also Comic Values monthly >also had a top 20 comic list for the month. As far as I know and recall, >G.I Joe was never in the top 20. I'm not sure about that. G.I. Joe was "the hottest comic book of the 80's" for a while in all the advertisements. Back issues, especially #2, were hard to find (I saw #2 for $40 once!!!). I think it might have made it into the top 20 for a while. Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.29 --------------- From: TimElf@aol.com Subject: Re: Curiousity Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:36:02 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/3/98 5:24:26 PM, sky15010@skynet.be writes: >First comic : > >GIJOE comics were only partly released and translated >in Belgium,the first issue I got was with the story where >The joes have to bomb an airfield and some ex joe/ordinary >soldier helps them and gets tortured by the enemy.This guy >ends up taking out the enemies SAM's in a suicide crash,also >killing the ennemies commander. >Anybody know what I'm talking about? That's one of the Special Missions issues, early on, around #3-6, I would guess off the top of my head. Stalker, Crank-case, Leatherneck and Slip- stream are undercover in some Middle-eastern country. The story follows sort of the Reagan bombing the Libyans idea, but with Colonel Sharif instead of Khadafi (and the country is never named, I don't think). Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n739.30 --------------- From: Adam Casey Subject: Underacheivers Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:44:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not everyone is born to a family where money abounds. But then again, some people are. People like the Kennedys. They have money waiting for them. But what about the little guy? In my U.S. History class, my teacher, Mr. Joyner, is bent on destroying all our self-esteem. He professes that no one can overcome meager beginnings to become something great. I intend to prove him wrong. Enclosed is a list of people who have overcome the odds to become something big. If you have anyone to add, please e-mail me the names. Right now, I'm only looking for famous people, but will soon request personal success stories. Stevie Nicks - house maid/waitress Bill Gates - computer nerd George Washington Carver - poor Princess Diana - teacher John Travolta - poor Babe Ruth - orphan Michael Jackson - runt of litter/poor Ghostface Killa - poor Adolf Hitler - struggling art student Father Abraham - clerk in the town of Ur King David - shepard Hulk Hogan - fat kid Jewel - prostitute Thomas Edison - poor Frank Thomas - poor Bo Jackson - poor Fiona Apple - depressed at age 12 Jesse Camp - low life Snoop Doggy Dogg - poor Gloria Estafan - Cuban refugee Shania Twain - single parent home w/ depressed mom Moses - Hebrew Tom Petty - gravedigger Notorius B.I.G. - poor Tupac Shakur - poor --------------- END gijoe.v001.n739 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n740 -------------- 001 - BADSCNAME@aol.com - Re: SW2000 002 - "Julius Cooper" - Re: Curiousity 017 - BADSCNAME@aol.com - Is it a challenge you want? Well... 018 - BADSCNAME@aol.com - Re: Curiousity 019 - JSMosby61@aol.com - Re: oh, a challenge... 020 - klacoste@bigfoot.com (Kev - Joe Comics = Top 20? 021 - Your Mother - Re: Commando Set 024 - Eugene - Re: oh, a challenge... 025 - WyvernDrag@aol.com - G.I.Joe Art Book 026 - Dzirhan Mahadzir > COOL!!! I'd always thought they'd be good for each other. Mara was obsessed with killing Luke, now she's obsessed with him in another way. Sheesh. A woman's mind is cleaner than a man's. She changes it more often. --Goofbacca --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.2 --------------- From: "Julius Cooper" Subject: Re: Curiousity Date: 03 Nov 98 18:30:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_ORCL_68315031_0r0" --=_ORCL_68315031_0r0 content-type:multipart/alternative; boundary="=_ORCL_68315031_0r1" --=_ORCL_68315031_0r1 Content-Type:text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit >Okay...I'm curious...who remembers ... I do, I do! >1. Their first Joe comic... An oversize reprint of G.I. Joe #1. >2. Their first Joe figure... Steeler (straight-arm) >3. Their first Joy vehicle or playset... The MOBAT >I want to see what it was and when it was gotten and perhaps how old you >were at the time. This could be interesting. I was 11 at the time; it was Christmas, and my aunt had gotten everyone --her son, me and my brothers, and another male cousin--okay, all the boys! G.I. Joe that year (1982). Talk about Heaven! Between the five of us, we had EVERYTHING from the first year! Yo JOE!!!! Peace, --Weasel ..delighting in the fact that Steeler is green with envy over my MOBAT... *smirk* ORACLEb Corporation Julius Cooper Indianapolis Staff Consultant Phone/Voicemail: 317.228.4027 Pager: 888.266.2461 Disclaimer: The opinions contained herein do not necessarily reflect those of Oracle Corporation. --=_ORCL_68315031_0r1 Content-Type:application/x-compressed-rtf Content-Transfer-Encoding:base64 aAQAAHMHAABMWkZ1A/+aWv8ACgEPAhUCpAPkBesCgwBQEwNUAgBjaArAc2V07jIGAAbDAoMy A8YHEwKD5jMERhGXMSAIVQeyAoNmNBQ/FU9mNQPFAgBwhHJxEiJzdGVtAoO2NgRHFW43EScZ Q0cKwNJhBGBuZAKDOATWGSWoTWF0CHBhBdBUBgAhBQRDYXBpAZBsc90Cgzkb+xGfAoB9CoAI z+UJ2TsjYjI1GKAjzwmrHyTRAoAKgQ2xC2BuZzEMMDMUIAsDbGkxOB8N8AUQKKILVRZhczE3 gCA+T2theS4qcGBJJ20gYwhxCGBz4Spxd2hvICNwB4AG0A8EkAQgKnEKhUkgZG8aLCzzIQqF CoU+MS6gIFRoZWkFwGYvAGEZsCBKb2Uq0ANwaUpjLGhBA6BvdiwhaT56L7AjcBlAC4AFQG9m bxzAKpAusC+SIy6gLb0yVy6wLs8vMGcIcGUsaFPpGcBlbBWxKBmwHPA1MEhodC0KwG0pLb0z 6TP/eSAxAGgwADZgMOB/BcALURmgEgAsaC7RBdBP2EJBVC29LQB3AHAFQL50K6AR8C+wK4Ae sCAf4Hc9AQQgAHBkPcEJ8D4WZ25vAkA+8T6ScASQEcBw3wQgK5AH4AbwPrB5CGAuJq53BJAv sD3xdDuBdAdx9ziDBAAvwXVBESwQPhACMPdCARmwC4BnLIYLRhpBKeJbPPIEIDEXgEJJOz4W Q25oBRAZsADAcy1APpJteTmQYXUx0RHAPrA/lWWTMQFBQG5lCoUtLS7gvQXAcwIgLUAHgEiW YgNg/0JxEeBIhABwTHNI0AdAL7K3KzALgEsAbypBSIFsAyB/QnIG4BmgLaYyN0JwPfF5AmUK wSgxOTgyKVs4ggdAaz6ABuB1BUBI01EQMQBuITQAQhIAQfD/PvFCci8wMQAx8iswLUBB8AMK hUliRVZFUllU8EhJTkcvIANhU5UvUgtRAlLxWSugSk9FIRdX4S28CoVQURBjZSztSpdXURAR 8GwKhSpwDbD/KIA3AUSBQ/FTlADQQlI98V82JkNBCcM9AB/gaEoAbj52OZAw8kjSO7MsaCpz MS/wcmsqRM0b4XMzBRLwYwBBYiBPUkH4Q0xFC0UnpQLRIIEp4JMaQGICdXBGgVwnJuA/YRpk FWJAYQ9iEwhQcnDfBbAesCsQC5BFSTIdoGIBfwMwAZFplQtVHaJh0xIgSu1DkGkrMBrRb0BB RTprBbdgr2kWYjFJHTAHMG4fwP8G8ENBb/NpqWmycCJt/hLw+2JANiBhDdAa0QCAQ5ABkL8C MGh/F4BEzynSayNQK5BxSnAvVm8wABnQC3BsSjo0ADMp8C4yaTAuGDQwMhvgcLlQYWebBJB3 gTh5sHfgNjZ34Og0NjEKhUQEADnwC3D/B4B5cjtybAALgGhBQ1ICML8LcQmAQLBCAVwBLSAg TUG3fbAFkAeQcwrAAxB5CobfcLgjcCeQBZBCUm8R8DHy7k8c8DnyZ8kuRT0tvCKRAgCEIA== --=_ORCL_68315031_0r1 Content-Type:text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit >Okay...I'm curious...who remembers ...
I do, I do!
 
>1. Their first Joe comic...
An oversize reprint of G.I. Joe #1.
 
>2.  Their first Joe figure...
Steeler (straight-arm)
 
>3.  Their first Joy vehicle or playset...
The MOBAT
 
>I want to see what it was and when it was gotten and perhaps how old you
>were at the time.  This could be interesting.
I was 11 at the time; it was Christmas, and my aunt had gotten everyone
--her son, me and my brothers, and another male cousin--okay, all the boys!
G.I. Joe that year (1982).  Talk about Heaven!  Between the five of us, we
had EVERYTHING from the first year!  Yo JOE!!!!
 
 
Peace,
--Weasel
..delighting in the fact that Steeler is green with envy over my MOBAT...
*smirk*
ORACLEb Corporation  Julius Cooper
Indianapolis             Staff Consultant
Phone/Voicemail:   317.228.4027    Pager:  888.266.2461
Disclaimer:  The opinions contained herein do not necessarily
reflect those of Oracle Corporation.
 

--=_ORCL_68315031_0r1-- --=_ORCL_68315031_0r0 content-type:message/rfc822 Date: 03 Nov 98 11:04:34 From:Eric Leavitt To:gijoe@lists.best.com Subject:Curiousity Reply-to:UNX09.US.ORACLE.COM:gijoe@lists.best.com Return-Path: Received:from mailsun2.us.oracle.com by usmail05 with SMTP (SMI-8.6/37.9) id LAA00919; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:26:42 -0800 Received:from inet16.us.oracle.com by mailsun2.us.oracle.com with ESMTP (SMI-8.6/37.8) id LAA13085; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:26:38 -0800 Received:from lists1.best.com (root@lists1.best.com [206.86.8.15]) by inet16.us.oracle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17948 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:26:57 -0800 (PST) Received:(from daemon@localhost) by lists1.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.ls) id LAA06552; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:05:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id:<199811031905.LAA06552@lists1.best.com> BestServHost:lists.best.com Sender:gijoe-errors@lists.best.com Errors-To:gijoe-errors@lists.best.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type:text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Okay...I'm curious...who remembers ... 1. Their first Joe comic... 2. Their first Joe figure... 3. Their first Joy vehicle or playset... I want to see what it was and when it was gotten and perhaps how old you were at the time. This could be interesting. --=_ORCL_68315031_0r0-- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.3 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: the numbers of joe comics sold Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:38:44 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit $40 really? I just got #2 for $4. Of course it's only in 'Good' condition. << I'm not sure about that. G.I. Joe was "the hottest comic book of the 80's" for a while in all the advertisements. Back issues, especially #2, were hard to find (I saw #2 for $40 once!!!). I think it might have made it into the top 20 for a while. Tim >> --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.4 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Underacheivers Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:41:56 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Fiona Apple - depressed at age 12 >> hummmm....details??? --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.5 --------------- From: ralarcon@skyinet.net Subject: Marked Down Joes ??? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:08:19 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In-Reply-To: <199811040147.RAA03041@lists1.best.com> Marked down Joes ??? Coool... *Drool* *whimper* I guess I won't see those 'round here ;( Anyone wanna trade a few 94's for 97's/98's ? hahahah~ I better get the shipping fixed first. Richard *buries back to you-know-what and sick of 94's* --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.6 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Re: Underacheivers Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:52:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---Adam Casey wrote: > > In my U.S. History class, my teacher, Mr. Joyner, is bent on > destroying all our self-esteem. He professes that no one can > overcome meager beginnings to become something great. > > I intend to prove him wrong. Enclosed is a list of people who > have overcome the odds to become something big. If you have > anyone to add, please e-mail me the names. Right now, I'm only > looking for famous people, but will soon request personal success > > stories. Abraham Lincoln - poor - Arguably the greatest president ever. Oprah Winfrey - poor, abused child Stephen Hawking - stuck in a wheelchair, can't even speak - one of the most brilliant people alive That's all I have for now. By the way, this man calls himself a history teacher? How ignorant of him! JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.7 --------------- From: "Danielle N. Barese" Subject: Re: oh, a challenge... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:58:07 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:17 AM 11/3/98 -0600, you wrote: > > The list is straying far, _far_ off topic again... :( > If you don't like it, don't read it... trash it before you even start... that's what I do if it's a topic that doesn't interest me... that's why there's a subject line... frankly, I think a bit of humor is refreshing, regardless of how off topic it is. dani --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.8 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: TRU clearence Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:04:58 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Commandos in Louisiana --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.9 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: Curiousity Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:08:30 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/4/98 2:46:58 AM !!!First Boot!!!, JUCOOPER@us.oracle.com writes: << --Weasel ..delighting in the fact that Steeler is green with envy over my MOBAT... >> And your point????? --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.10 --------------- From: "Derek R. Anderson" Subject: Commando Set Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 22:21:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811040147.RAA03041@lists1.best.com> >I found Stars and Stripes for $20 and Rages for $15. Nothing else was marked >down. No A-10's are on the shelves anymore in my area. Around Memorial Day >(end of May for those of you who don't know the US holidays) I found S&S on >clearance for $21 and A-10s for $16.70 adn bought 3 a-10's. THat was the last >time I saw the planes, and it was only at the one TRU in Vienna, VA. I never >saw an a-10 again anywhere nor did I see any other sets for clearance prices >until the rage this week. Are Commando sets still around, I can only find >Cobra and Artic sets. All three of the small vehicles are still around too >but they are still $10. > >JOhn M. My TRU has not yet marked down anything, I have been waiting to get the vehicle sets for the figures (anyone want some figureless vehicles?) :) The only set I can not find is the Commando Set. Seems like it was bought up early on. Anyone have an extra to sell please let me know... Derek... Derek R. Anderson Active Imagination Art Studios http://www.netxp.com/aias AOL IM: aiasderek (904) 788-2586 FAX: (904) 788-5414 --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.11 --------------- From: "Danielle N. Barese" Subject: Re: I need some comics... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:24:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I may have a deal going with someone for 134... but maybe we can work out a trade for 128. In fact, maybe we can work out a trade for the other two as well... got any figs you'd be willing to part with or something like that? If my deal falls through on 134, I'll let you know. dani At 04:54 PM 11/3/98 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 11/1/98 10:26:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, dani@sonic.net >writes: > ><< Thought this would be the best venue to bring this up... > > I need 8 issues of Joe to complete my collection (not including SM or EM)... > I would be willing to purchase them at a fair price or I would really like > to trade... I have quite a few extras. Anyhoo, here's what I need: 90, 96, > 103, 119, 120, 128, 134, 146. > Here's my list of extras: 12, 53, 56, 59, 60, 80, 91, 93, 97, 105. 106, > 115, 131, 138. > I'd like to get the above issues first because they will complete the main > series, but I also need the following: SPECIAL MISSIONS: 8-11; 13-27 & > EUROPEAN MISSIONS: 2-10; 13 (yeah, I know that's a pretty wide range). I'd > also be interested in any issues of ACTION FORCE... I don't have any of > those and I was perusing the covers on yojoe and they looked really neat-o. > > If anyone is interested or can lend a hand, I'd love to be able to read > 1-155 in their entirety before I ravenously jump into the new era in April. > > Thanks, > > Dani > >> >this is what i have : 128, 134 >and what i need: 105, 106, 115, (whichever two of the three) > > --Snarf5181@aol.com > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.12 --------------- From: "Danielle N. Barese" Subject: Re: Commando Set Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:29:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I saw a commando set hanging on the peg at our TRU the other day... if it's still there when I go back, I'll snatch it for you... I doubt it's still there, but who knows. dani At 10:21 PM 11/3/98 -0500, you wrote: > >>I found Stars and Stripes for $20 and Rages for $15. Nothing else was marked >>down. No A-10's are on the shelves anymore in my area. Around Memorial Day >>(end of May for those of you who don't know the US holidays) I found S&S on >>clearance for $21 and A-10s for $16.70 adn bought 3 a-10's. THat was the >last >>time I saw the planes, and it was only at the one TRU in Vienna, VA. I never >>saw an a-10 again anywhere nor did I see any other sets for clearance prices >>until the rage this week. Are Commando sets still around, I can only find >>Cobra and Artic sets. All three of the small vehicles are still around too >>but they are still $10. >> >>JOhn M. > >My TRU has not yet marked down anything, I have been waiting to get the >vehicle sets for the figures (anyone want some figureless vehicles?) :) > >The only set I can not find is the Commando Set. Seems like it was bought >up early on. Anyone have an extra to sell please let me know... > >Derek... >Derek R. Anderson >Active Imagination Art Studios >http://www.netxp.com/aias > >AOL IM: aiasderek >(904) 788-2586 >FAX: (904) 788-5414 > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.13 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Commando Set Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:35:27 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/3/98 10:30:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, deroan@mindspring.com writes: << My TRU has not yet marked down anything, I have been waiting to get the vehicle sets for the figures (anyone want some figureless vehicles?) :) >> Lemme know if that trend continues with the 98 Rattler 4WD. I want four extras of them, but the Vypra figures will just be worthless to me. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.14 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: '98s... Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 21:42:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" man I love living in Canada. My friend just picked up the 98' Seals three pack for me. Well, I think they are definitely better than the '97s, but I'm still not so happy first of all, Shipwreck. He's my fav (why Lynx picked up this set), but he doesn't look like himself. no hat... the accessories suck too... I just don't get it at all. anyways, just thought I'd say that little bit. that and I think Lynx expanded my Joe comic collection twofold... I'm thrilled anyways, that's all Bullet "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hooper --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.15 --------------- From: jerdlngr@juno.com (Jean E Riedlinger) Subject: Re: Curiousity Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:54:08 -0500 References: <199811031905.LAA06552@lists1.best.com> On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:04:34 -0600 Eric Leavitt writes: >Okay...I'm curious...who remembers ... > >1. Their first Joe comic... It was #11. I was 9 or 10. It was given to me by the son of one of my mom's friends. Scarlett was the reason I kept reading -- a woman had a major role! And there weren't really that many sexist comments - just occasionally from Clutch. >2. Their first Joe figure... I only had 2 - Scarlett and Lady Jaye. At some point, a friend and I realized that they could be taken apart, so we pulled Scarlett apart and threw the pieces around. The butt part landed behind a big bookcase that my mom & stepfather removed a couple of years ago, but I don't think the butt was ever found. I don't know what happened to Lady Jaye. >3. Their first Joy vehicle or playset... Never had one. >I want to see what it was and when it was gotten and perhaps how old >you >were at the time. This could be interesting. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I used to be with it, then they changed what 'it' was. Now what I'm with isn't 'it,' and what IS 'it' is weird and scary to me." -Grandpa Simpson ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.16 --------------- From: johne Subject: Re: Curiousity Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:04:16 -0700 (MST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199811031905.LAA06552@lists1.best.com> > Okay...I'm curious...who remembers ... > > 1. Their first Joe comic... Special Missions #2 > 2. Their first Joe figure... Ripcord '84?? > 3. Their first Joy vehicle or playset... Killer Whale for Christmas '84?? SharpShot --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.17 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Is it a challenge you want? Well... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:01:33 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << If you don't like it, don't read it... trash it before you even start... that's what I do if it's a topic that doesn't interest me... that's why there's a subject line... frankly, I think a bit of humor is refreshing, regardless of how off topic it is. dani >> Thank youse fer sayin' that. I agree. But...if we get too carried away we might get booted from the list. Respond my email if ya want, or use the list...all the same to me. Just think of the other listmembers, though =) In response to those who supported the statement 'A man will screw anything, just to stay in practice' here is my rebuttal: Yes, some of us guys do, and it's the women drive us to it. I have yet to know a female who is as innocent as she acts and who does not enjoy rasing hell with internal conflicts. Men are often targets of mind games which stur up so much emotion that they're forced into such blind acts to make the hurt go away. ::sniffle sniffle:: --Psyche-Out (Thinkin' 'bout a psychology major) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.18 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Curiousity Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:23:24 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << At some point, a friend and I realized that they could be taken apart, so we pulled Scarlett apart and threw the pieces around. >> My, aren't we easily entertained? ;D --The ghost Scarlett's Butt --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.19 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: oh, a challenge... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:29:57 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/4/98 3:17:11 AM !!!First Boot!!!, dani@sonic.net writes: << If you don't like it, don't read it... trash it before you even start... that's what I do if it's a topic that doesn't interest me... that's why there's a subject line... frankly, I think a bit of humor is refreshing, regardless of how off topic it is. I 2nd the motion! Steeler - trying not to take life or JOES too serious --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.20 --------------- From: klacoste@bigfoot.com (Kevin LaCoste) Subject: Joe Comics = Top 20? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:47:56 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>Comic shop news(a newsletter available at comic shops) normally has a >>top 20 comics list though you might find it difficult to find copies for >>that period as I doubt anyone would keep them. Also Comic Values monthly >>also had a top 20 comic list for the month. As far as I know and recall, >>G.I Joe was never in the top 20. > >I'm not sure about that. G.I. Joe was "the hottest comic book of the 80's" for >a while in all the advertisements. Back issues, especially #2, were hard to >find (I saw #2 for $40 once!!!). I think it might have made it into the top >20 for a while. > >Tim > I used to work in a comic shop in my teens. Part-time while in grades 8-11. I was pretty chock full of comic info at the time and I can't recall GI Joe ever reaching the top 20 of any listing I ever saw. The truth of it was, most dealers I ever talked to just carried enough issues to fill orders. I worked a lot of conventions and the situation was the same everywhere as far as I could tell. It was a good comic with a loyal fan base but it didn't get much respect outside of that. PS: I stopped my collection around issue 60 or 70 when I got out of comics. I'm really looking forward to the new series! Kevin LaCoste klacoste@bigfoot.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.21 --------------- From: Your Mother Subject: Figureless Vehicles? Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 02:16:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199811040319.TAA11828@lists1.best.com> > My TRU has not yet marked down anything, I have been waiting to get the > vehicle sets for the figures (anyone want some figureless vehicles?) > :) Hiya, I'd really like a '97 Cobra Flight Pod if you have an extra. Please lmk if you do. Thanks. Colin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.22 --------------- From: Calvin Woo Subject: Re: the numbers of joe comics sold Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:19:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199811040239.SAA12500@lists1.best.com> $40 was when G.I.Joe was in its prime. I remember seeing those prices for G.I.Joe #2 before, but it's about $4-$5 now. Calvin On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 BADSCNAME@aol.com wrote: > $40 really? I just got #2 for $4. Of course it's only in 'Good' condition. > > << I'm not sure about that. G.I. Joe was "the hottest comic book of the 80's" > for > a while in all the advertisements. Back issues, especially #2, were hard to > find (I saw #2 for $40 once!!!). I think it might have made it into the top > 20 for a while. > > Tim >> > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.23 --------------- From: Eugene Subject: Re: Commando Set Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:47:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <199811040147.RAA03041@lists1.best.com> In-Reply-To: <199811040319.TAA11828@lists1.best.com> At 7:21 PM -0800 11/3/98, Derek R. Anderson wrote: >>I found Stars and Stripes for $20 and Rages for $15. Nothing else was marked >>down. No A-10's are on the shelves anymore in my area. Around Memorial Day >>(end of May for those of you who don't know the US holidays) I found S&S on >>clearance for $21 and A-10s for $16.70 adn bought 3 a-10's. THat was the >last >>time I saw the planes, and it was only at the one TRU in Vienna, VA. I never >>saw an a-10 again anywhere nor did I see any other sets for clearance prices >>until the rage this week. Are Commando sets still around, I can only find >>Cobra and Artic sets. All three of the small vehicles are still around too >>but they are still $10. It's weird. I hit the local TRU and found the same markdowns - S&S for $20 and Rages for $15. Nothing else was marked down. However, there were also a slough of Commando sets - the first I've seen in several months. Looks like someone else's theory is on - that they're clearing out their stock/space to make room for the 98s. Another strange sight - a bunch of the S&S sets had been cut into and the Snake Eyes was stolen out of them. -Eugene ------------------------------------------------------------ eugenE | YO JOE! |--------------------------------------- eson@yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! ------------------------------------------------------------ "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" ------------------------------------------------------------ "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.24 --------------- From: Eugene Subject: Re: oh, a challenge... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:51:53 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811040259.SAA26597@lists1.best.com> >> The list is straying far, _far_ off topic again... :( >> >If you don't like it, don't read it... trash it before you even start... True, but let's be considerate of those who signed up for the list to talk G.I.Joe. Things are always going to go off-topic in newsgroups or mailing lists. It's not a problem as long as everyone's aware that there's a point where it should go to private e-mail. If a thread deteriorates into a discussion about what the children of Pippi Longstocking and Incredible Hulk would like, I'm outta here. :) Oh - and I realize that by posting this, I'm continuing the thread off-topic. So don't bother pointing that out. :) -Sideshow Eugene ------------------------------------------------------------ eugenE | YO JOE! |--------------------------------------- eson@yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! ------------------------------------------------------------ "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" ------------------------------------------------------------ "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.25 --------------- From: WyvernDrag@aol.com Subject: G.I.Joe Art Book Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 03:23:46 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wouldn't it be great if a G.I.Joe Art Book was made, featuring different characters drawn by many great comic book(and non comic book) artists? Who would everyone pick to draw? Here are my pics: Joe Madureira Joe Jusko Adam Kubert Andy Kubert Mark Bagley Boris Vallejo Carlos Pacheo Ron Lim Jim Lee Joe Quesada Dave Keown What do ya think? C-V --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.26 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: Joe Comics = Top 20? Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 19:17:17 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199811040547.VAA22180@lists1.best.com> Kevin LaCoste wrote: > > I used to work in a comic shop in my teens. Part-time while in grades 8-11. > I was pretty chock full of comic info at the time and I can't recall GI Joe > ever reaching the top 20 of any listing I ever saw. The truth of it was, > most dealers I ever talked to just carried enough issues to fill orders. I > worked a lot of conventions and the situation was the same everywhere as > far as I could tell. It was a good comic with a loyal fan base but it > didn't get much respect outside of that. > I agree with Kevin on this, although Joe did have a loyal following and interest in the comic peaked in the mid 80's mainly due to the cartoon show, let's not forget that that same time period was the height of the comic craze. The top 20 comics were based on number of issues sold and with comic collecting being seen as an investment opportunity, people would but several of the same issue but this wasn't the case for the joe comic, prices for early issue of joe comics may have been high at that time but this was only because of the effect of the cartoon show which lead to new joe fans trying to get hold of what they missed. The cartoon show, in my opinion was really what sparked a wide interest in Joe but even then this wasn't enough to propel joe into the top 20 comics as only joe fans would buy it and the comic wasn't seen as an ' investment comic ' unlike other titles. Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.27 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Commando Set Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 06:39:40 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/4/98 2:48:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, eson@yojoe.com writes: << Another strange sight - a bunch of the S&S sets had been cut into and the Snake Eyes was stolen out of them. >> weird... the one by me, a few of the S&S Snake-Eyes' are broken. Thats right. not ruber band broken... the chest pieces snap open, with the part of the front chestpiece that the screw screws into still attached to the back... completely worthless figures.... Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.28 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Favorite version of Cobra Commander Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 20:26:07 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yo Joes, Time to start a joe-related debate, what is your favorite version of Rag-Face aka Cobra Commander. Mine is the Battle Corps version, that one really makes him look like the infamous head of a terrorist organization. Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.29 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: oh, a challenge... Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 07:59:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199811040259.SAA26597@lists1.best.com> > I think it was Corey who wrote: > > > > The list is straying far, _far_ off topic again... :( > > > If you don't like it, don't read it... trash it before you even start... > that's what I do if it's a topic that doesn't interest me... that's why > there's a subject line... frankly, I think a bit of humor is refreshing, > regardless of how off topic it is. > > dani Kind of a ruthless reply Dani... But, I agree with her here.... as long as these ' off topic' sessions don't go on and on ( liek some have ) I , for one, find them amusing and a nice change of pace. It also allows us to 'see into' / get to know our fellow list members in ways other than we normally would. Just my ( no longer useful ) 2 flag points.... ( which I have a bunch of saved ..8-(.... - rocketeer - --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n740.30 --------------- From: Louis Colli Subject: Re: Curiousity Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:05:28 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199811031905.LAA06552@lists1.best.com> On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Eric Leavitt wrote: > Okay...I'm curious...who remembers ... > > 1. Their first Joe comic... Issue #54. Cobra invades the PIT > 2. Their first Joe figure... I got four at once, Christmas 1985, age 7 - Lady Jaye, Roadblock, and Tomax and Xamot. > 3. Their first Joy vehicle or playset... My birthday, January 1986, age 8 - Mauler Tank w/ Heavy Metal Louis \\|// (o o) ____oOO__( )__OOo____ _______/ Louis Colli \_______ | colli@pegasus.montclair.edu | |http://www.csam.montclair.edu/~colli/| |______ Oooo. _______| \_____.ooo0____( )___/ ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) --------------- END gijoe.v001.n740 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n741 -------------- 001 - rktmoose@ix.netcom.com - Favorite version of Cobra Commander] 002 - Eric Leavitt Yo Joes, > >Time to start a joe-related debate, what is your favorite version of >Rag-Face aka Cobra Commander. Mine is the Battle Corps version, that one >really makes him look like the infamous head of a terrorist >organization. > >Dzirhan > Well, for me , I woul ddefinately have to say the original faceshield Commander. That just seems to be the ' definative' CC. - rocketeer - --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.2 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: RE: Underacheivers Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:39:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Good idea, but I'm not sure Jewel was a prostitute...I thought she was a secretary and a waitress. > ---------- > From: Adam Casey[SMTP:adamcas@ipass.net] > Reply To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 7:44 PM > To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Subject: Underacheivers > > Not everyone is born to a family where money abounds. But then > again, some people are. People like the Kennedys. They have > money waiting for them. But what about the little guy? > > In my U.S. History class, my teacher, Mr. Joyner, is bent on > destroying all our self-esteem. He professes that no one can > overcome meager beginnings to become something great. > > I intend to prove him wrong. Enclosed is a list of people who > have overcome the odds to become something big. If you have > anyone to add, please e-mail me the names. Right now, I'm only > looking for famous people, but will soon request personal success > > stories. > > Stevie Nicks - house maid/waitress > Bill Gates - computer nerd > George Washington Carver - poor > Princess Diana - teacher > John Travolta - poor > Babe Ruth - orphan > Michael Jackson - runt of litter/poor > Ghostface Killa - poor > Adolf Hitler - struggling art student > Father Abraham - clerk in the town of Ur > King David - shepard > Hulk Hogan - fat kid > Jewel - prostitute > Thomas Edison - poor > Frank Thomas - poor > Bo Jackson - poor > Fiona Apple - depressed at age 12 > Jesse Camp - low life > Snoop Doggy Dogg - poor > Gloria Estafan - Cuban refugee > Shania Twain - single parent home w/ depressed mom > Moses - Hebrew > Tom Petty - gravedigger > Notorius B.I.G. - poor > Tupac Shakur - poor > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.3 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: RE: Commando Set Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:41:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain My TRU has marked down the Jet, the Stars n' Stripes Set and the COBRA Rage. > ---------- > From: BespinRunt@aol.com[SMTP:BespinRunt@aol.com] > Reply To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 9:35 PM > To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Subject: Re: Commando Set > > In a message dated 11/3/98 10:30:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, > deroan@mindspring.com writes: > > << My TRU has not yet marked down anything, I have been waiting to get the > vehicle sets for the figures (anyone want some figureless vehicles?) :) > >> > Lemme know if that trend continues with the 98 Rattler 4WD. > I want four extras of them, but the Vypra figures will just be worthless > to > me. > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.4 --------------- From: TimElf@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorite version of Cobra Commander Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:45:29 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/4/98 6:29:36 AM Central Standard Time, anasira@pc.jaring.my writes: > Time to start a joe-related debate, what is your favorite version of > Rag-Face aka Cobra Commander. Mine is the Battle Corps version, that one > really makes him look like the infamous head of a terrorist > organization. Easy. The Hooded Cobra Commander (the original one). Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.5 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Bench Press Studios Press Release Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:56:45 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here it is, the official confirmation from the men themselves (no, as far as I know their talent doesn't incluse women yet): November 4, 1998 Press Release http://www.benchcomics.com/news.htm Once again, this is all realy cool news, esp for fans of both GIJoe and Transformers! Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.6 --------------- From: LadyZz@aol.com Subject: Re: oh, a challenge... OT Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:57:28 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe we could use a code or something in the subject so people who don't want it can just delete it in the beginning, Like -OT- Off Topic. That way if you don't want to read it just delete it. Zz --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.7 --------------- From: LadyZz@aol.com Subject: Re: G.I.Joe Art Book Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:02:46 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My favorite comic book artists are: Dimitrios Patelis Peter Scanlan Dave Devries Joe Q They all did Marvel ~Zz --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.8 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: RE: Curiousity Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:05:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I will reply to my own question... > Okay...I'm curious...who remembers ... > > 1. Their first Joe comic... > answer: Giant-Sized Issue Number 1 from a dime-store/pharmacy in 1982. > 2. Their first Joe figure... > answer: Duke soon followed by Scrap Iron and Rip-Chord in 1984. > 3. Their first Joy vehicle or playset... > answer: The Flak in 1982 while my brother received the HAL w/Grandslam. I was 9 at the time while my brother was 5 and my parents were trying to wean me off of toys other than LEGO. The didn't want to repeat Star Wars. Well, they failed...by Christmas 1984 I had the Skystriker and I was well on my way to Joe-toydom. Now, I am 25, I have almost every 3 3/4 item produced, excluding the StarBrigade and Mega Marines which I couldn't stand. I also have the the entire comic run. My questions is...could I have gone to college without student loans without this stuff? Well, I probably would have spent it on something else. It was the 1980's. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.9 --------------- From: LadyZz@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorite version of Cobra Commander Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:14:33 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/4/98 10:08:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, TimElf@aol.com writes: << Easy. The Hooded Cobra Commander (the original one). Tim Now there's a man after my own heart. I like the original CC. He was classy, ok Not classy but as simple and straightforward as CC could ever be. ~Zz --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.10 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: Joe Comics = Top 20? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:23:53 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not disagreeing in the least BUT it was popular enough to go 2 a month for awhile --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.11 --------------- From: Corey & Angela Stinson Subject: Re: off-topic discussion [was: oh, a challenge... ] Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:26:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811040259.SAA26597@lists1.best.com> At 06:58 PM 11/3/98 -0800, you wrote: >At 09:17 AM 11/3/98 -0600, you wrote: >> >> The list is straying far, _far_ off topic again... :( >> >If you don't like it, don't read it... trash it before you even start... >that's what I do if it's a topic that doesn't interest me... that's why >there's a subject line... frankly, I think a bit of humor is refreshing, >regardless of how off topic it is. > >dani What a lovely idiotic, knee-jerk response. Many people on this list don't properly edit the subject line to reflect the changing content of discussion threads anyway, so it is next to impossible to tell what is and is not off topic until one has already wasted the time to open and read half of the post. USENET has already been rendered effectively useless because of the garbage collection one has to do to read a post that is actually on-topic... so now that people like you have ruined that forum you'll over here to clutter this one as well. Genie, can I please wish these people back over to IRC's #hotsex? I've already seen several posts in support of this thread and off-topic discussion so I won't bother elaborating my point further as I'm apparently in the minority. It's times like this when I serious wonder why I donate any of my free time to all of this. -- _________________________________________________________________________ // Corey Stinson || stinson@anet-stl.com \\ \\ Systems Programmer || corey@masterclock.com // // Real-Time Applications & Embedded Systems || \\ \\ GUI Application Development || // // World Wide Web & CGI Development || \\ \\ C/C++/Visual C++ (MFC)/Assembler || // // DOS/Windows 3.x '95 NT/Netware/Un*x || \\ \\ ------------------------------------------++----------------------------// // No Love Stronger / No Pain Greater / No Hate Deeper / The Church Within \\ \\____- The Obsessed ______________________________________________________// --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.12 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorite version of Cobra Commander] Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:27:16 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Version 2 with "rag head" --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.13 --------------- From: LadyZz@aol.com Subject: New Promo Posters Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:27:37 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <> Bench Press Studios Looks like I may have to buy some comics that I don't read. Gotta luv posters. ~Zz --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.14 --------------- From: Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com Subject: comics Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:39:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I know there was the summer or two in the late '80s when Marvel took their more popular titles and placed them on a biweekly schedule... GI Joe was one of the chosen, so I'd assume it was fairly high on the lists at that time to warrant that. I remember #2 peaking around $65... For years I believed the Treasury Edition #1 was the only #1 created and didn't bother looking for the regular sized #1. Finally managed to pick the original #1 up last year... for $1. -Kj, depressed that he could buy the entire collection today for what #1 and 2 would've sold for then... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.15 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: oh, a challenge... OT Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:49:07 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree once again with the ladies Steeler - (wondering, off topic of course, why the ladies seem to be a voice of reason) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.16 --------------- From: Dan Carber Subject: Re: Joe Comics = Top 20? Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:45:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811041525.HAA22073@lists1.best.com> At 10:23 AM 11/4/98 -0500, you wrote: >Not disagreeing in the least BUT it was popular enough to go 2 a month for >awhile Wasn't this when Marvel was making two of every comic? I doubt popularity had little to do with that marketing scheme, or as I like to put it - another way to squeeze money out of the comic collectors market (which I am no longer part of) Gee....that sounded bitter! Wonder why? dan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.17 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: BenchPress Comics Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:58:54 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Let try this the easy way HELP!!!!!! I talked to my local comic shop yestersay....NEVER heard of these guys....I'm about to move to West Virginia and I don't even remember there being a comic shop in Charleston....they don't do subscriptions so I can't even find Warriors Way to get the posters OR the comic itself....What is a tank jockey to do???? Steeler --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.18 --------------- From: TimElf@aol.com Subject: Re: off-topic discussion [was: oh, a challenge... ] Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:03:03 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/4/98 9:56:50 AM Central Standard Time, stinson@anet- stl.com writes: > I've already seen several posts in support of this thread and off-topic > discussion so I won't bother elaborating my point further as I'm apparently > in the minority. It's times like this when I serious wonder why I donate > any of my free time to all of this. You may be in the minority, but I'll jump in and agree with you. I joined this list earlier this week to discuss a rediscovered favorite of my younger days - G.I. Joe. If I wanted a "why men/women are better than women/men" discussion, I'd have joined a different group. Humor is great and I get a lot of that via e-mail, too, but I share it with my personal friends/family mailing list, not the various discussion lists I'm subscribed to. Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.19 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: off-topic discussion [was: oh, a challenge... ] Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:03:58 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/4/98 3:56:50 PM !!!First Boot!!!, stinson@anet-stl.com writes: << What a lovely idiotic, knee-jerk response. >> If you are going to flame do it privately and if you can't do that just keep it to yourself. It's one thing to disagree, it's another to start calling names....we're mostly adults here, let's act like it. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.20 --------------- From: TimElf@aol.com Subject: Re: Joe Comics = Top 20? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:16:35 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/4/98 10:12:14 AM Central Standard Time, dcarber@stonehill.edu writes: > >Not disagreeing in the least BUT it was popular enough to go 2 a month for > >awhile > > Wasn't this when Marvel was making two of every comic? I doubt popularity > had little to do with that marketing scheme, or as I like to put it - > another way to squeeze money out of the comic collectors market (which I am > no longer part of) No, only the most popular comics went bi-monthly at that time. That summer, it was X-Men, Wolverine, and G.I. Joe. Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.21 --------------- From: cedwards@tcia.net (Christopher Edwards) Subject: curiosity Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:09:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This will all really date me, but- First Joe comic-#1 and #2-three Joe adventures and several profiles all at once. I was hooked. First Joe figure-Snake Eyes, Stalker and Rock and Roll, straight arms. (On a side note, when these first new Joes came out, People magazine ran a two-page feature on them, consisting mostly of a picture of a kid playing with a few figures. Might make an interesting find for somebody's archives.) First Joe vehicle/playset-The first accesory I got was the FLAK cannon, which was really not quite a vehicle or a playset. I think I got the RAM a week or two later. High John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.22 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: Corey and Angela Stinson's Reply to Content Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:31:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain They are correct in complaining about topic, message content and language. This should be related to G.I.Joe or similar action figure, cartoon, comic book topics. Everyone should be responsible about their language. If this site becomes corrupted, it will cease to have worth. This is a message board and not a chat room. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.23 --------------- From: Eric Leavitt Subject: RE: JSMosby61 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:39:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I believe Corey and Angela Stinson are some of the most improtant and respected Joe collectors today. Let's give them some repsect and agree that this newsgroup should stay clean and on topic. > ---------- > From: JSMosby61@aol.com[SMTP:JSMosby61@aol.com] > Reply To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 10:03 AM > To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Subject: Re: off-topic discussion [was: oh, a challenge... ] > > In a message dated 11/4/98 3:56:50 PM !!!First Boot!!!, > stinson@anet-stl.com > writes: > > << What a lovely idiotic, knee-jerk response. >> > > If you are going to flame do it privately and if you can't do that just > keep > it to yourself. > It's one thing to disagree, it's another to start calling names....we're > mostly adults here, let's act like it. > > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.24 --------------- From: LadyZz@aol.com Subject: Off topic Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:51:25 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe Just maybe, if everyone had a topic to discuss and felt like they could contribute fully we wouldn't have these off topic responses. But sometimes this list gets dull, and someone has to do something to bring it back up. Many times I thought of leaving the list because I found it boring, I mean how many times can you talk about what is better the cartoon or comic?? I always stuck around because I liked the off topic remarks, that always seemed to blossom back into Joe related topics. It started new debates and made new questions to ponder. What I never cared for were the personal attacks and the grumpiness. This list isn't gonna die from off topic remarks that only last a few days, it will die because we are bored and don't have anything to talk about. So let's try to find some new discussions and maybe just maybe the off topic remarks will be cut back. ~Zz --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.25 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: JSMosby61 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:56:06 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't have a problem with keeping the board on topic, HOWEVER I don't care who they are or how important their perception is or in reality is, it does not now or ever excuse them from calling someone an idiot. To say anything else is to have a double standard. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.26 --------------- From: Zzarana@aol.com Subject: Collectors Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:03:29 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << I believe Corey and Angela Stinson are some of the most improtant and respected Joe collectors today. Let's give them some repsect and agree that this newsgroup should stay clean and on topic. >> You know everyone gets the respect that a common person should deserve, but will only gain respect when they give it. It is easier to lose respect than gain it. I don't care if you are a collector, Big or Small, Important or not, if you don't show respect to others don't ask for any in return. We all love GiJoe and that is what matters not who has more toys sitting in boxes or not. Importance doesn't mean you get more respect. ~Zz --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.27 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: Underacheivers Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:06:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811040147.RAA03028@lists1.best.com> At 08:44 PM 03/11/98 -0500, you wrote: >Not everyone is born to a family where money abounds. But then >again, some people are. People like the Kennedys. They have >money waiting for them. But what about the little guy? > >In my U.S. History class, my teacher, Mr. Joyner, is bent on >destroying all our self-esteem. He professes that no one can >overcome meager beginnings to become something great. > >I intend to prove him wrong. Enclosed is a list of people who >have overcome the odds to become something big. If you have >anyone to add, please e-mail me the names. Right now, I'm only >looking for famous people, but will soon request personal success > >stories. > >Stevie Nicks - house maid/waitress >Bill Gates - computer nerd >George Washington Carver - poor >Princess Diana - teacher >John Travolta - poor >Babe Ruth - orphan >Michael Jackson - runt of litter/poor >Ghostface Killa - poor >Adolf Hitler - struggling art student >Father Abraham - clerk in the town of Ur >King David - shepard >Hulk Hogan - fat kid >Jewel - prostitute >Thomas Edison - poor >Frank Thomas - poor >Bo Jackson - poor >Fiona Apple - depressed at age 12 >Jesse Camp - low life >Snoop Doggy Dogg - poor >Gloria Estafan - Cuban refugee >Shania Twain - single parent home w/ depressed mom >Moses - Hebrew >Tom Petty - gravedigger >Notorius B.I.G. - poor >Tupac Shakur - poor > > Actually, I think I'd disagree with Moses: He was born a Hebrew, true enough, but the thing is that he was RAISED the Pirnce of Egypt. I think that kinda kills the "overcoming the odds" bit. He did nothing. in all actuality, he might be said to have done the opposite Went from being a Prince to being a shepard (and then leading the people out of Egypt... I'm sure most of us know the story... although I shouldn't make that judgement. in RLST 100 a kid asked how they got across the Red Sea: Is that not one of the best known parts of the story?) and now, that I'm well off topic... I'll go A former RLST (Religious Studies)/ Bible major, Bullet "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hooper --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.28 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: Bench Press Studios Press Release Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:08:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811041457.GAA10811@lists1.best.com> At 09:56 AM 04/11/98 EST, you wrote: >Here it is, the official confirmation from the men themselves (no, as far as I >know their talent doesn't incluse women yet): > > November 4, 1998 Press Release > >http://www.benchcomics.com/news.htm > >Once again, this is all realy cool news, esp for fans of both GIJoe and >Transformers! > >Straight-Edge > Thanks yet again Straight Edge! "If women can sleep their way to the top, how come they aren't there?... There must be an epidemic of insomnia out there." - Ellen Goodman "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral Grace Hooper --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.29 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Back On Topic! - New Thread! Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:10:24 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What are the top 10 pieces/parts to find in mint condition? I know the Beach Head crotch will be mentioned, but what else? Steeler (checking all his parts) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n741.30 --------------- From: forrister@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: New Promo Posters Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:12:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199811041529.HAA24247@lists1.best.com> At 10:27 AM 04/11/98 EST, you wrote: ><how to receive free promotional posters for G.I. JOE and the TRANSFORMERS.>> >Bench Press Studios > >Looks like I may have to buy some comics that I don't read. Gotta luv >posters. > >~Zz > I have a serious need of Joe posters.... definitely will be trying to find Warrior's Way. besides, I looked at the art... looks great waiting for a colour printer to facilitate my poster making needs, bullet "If women can sleep their way to