-------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n701 -------------- 001 - "man9" - Re: Milton Bradley Cards 005 - CUBSandOs@aol.com - Re: Milton Bradley Cards 006 - BADSCNAME@aol.com - Web Page name...? 007 - cedwards@tcia.net (Christ - Field guide etc. 008 - "Jody Hewitt" - Re: Milton Bradley Cards 011 - Calvin Woo - 1998 Joes in store? 013 - WyvernDrag@aol.com - Re: 1998 Joes in store? 014 - BADSCNAME@aol.com - Re: 1998 Joes in store? 015 - "Jonathan Krenz" - Re: 1998 Joes in store? 027 - le_saint1@hotmail.com - Joe Heaven ? 028 - "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: Mattel Cards Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:06:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Mattel or Milton Bradley? Considering that Mattel was the rival of hasbro and >MB is a subsidiary of Hasbro. I think we definitly nee more info on these >cards.....(these are not the 86 comic images..which suck...these are high >quality Cartoon and figure art cards) Mattel and Hasbro have worked together before. (Warning: citing MOTU info!) Hasbro, Mattel's long-time rival, at one time produced licenced "Masters of The Universe" story tapes. Shipwreck --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.2 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: Re: Milton Bradley Cards Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:07:41 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/98 5:01:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, GIJoe@aol.com writes: > Mattel or Milton Bradley? Considering that Mattel was the rival of hasbro > and > MB is a subsidiary of Hasbro. I think we definitly nee more info on these > cards.....(these are not the 86 comic images..which suck...these are high > quality Cartoon and figure art cards) Sorry, Milton Bradley is what I meant... Now could someone please tell me about the Milton Bradley cards... Matt --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.3 --------------- From: Rod Pellegrini Subject: Re: Re:Weekend Finds Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:13:16 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >> From: "Richard Alarcon" >> Subject: Re: Weekend Finds >> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 07:54:17 PDT >>> ps: anyone else find any goodies ? ( go ahead and gloat, it helps keep >>> us motivated to keep looking )... >> Here in asia (Philippines), there are a LOT of MOC old stocks stores >> are trying to get rid of, like: >> >> Listen N Fun Tripwire for $2.50 >> Mega-Monsters $2.50 >> All 1994 figures for $1.50 >> Shark 900 + Helicopter $25 >> and most 1994 stuff at buy-1-take-1 deals. >> >> anyone coming over ? >> let me know. ;) Du-uuude!!!! I can't friggin' buh-lieve muh eyes!!!! That is just plain awesome!!!! Every joe collector's dream come true! well, mostly anyway... You could increase your collection just by trading MOC stuff with people around the world! And you could make a lot by trading/selling those Listen and fun Tripwires! think about it, if you weren't joking... Or people just might start moving to Phillipines just for that ;) Rockhammer KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // "ROCK CHALK JAYHAWKS" KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU ////////////////////////////////////////// KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Rod A. Pellegrini KKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Jayhawks rule!!!!! KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // rodpelle@falcon.cc.ukans.edu KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // Live long and prosper KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // May the force be with you --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.4 --------------- From: Eugene Subject: Re: Milton Bradley Cards Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:36:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" In-Reply-To: <199810072216.PAA04080@lists1.best.com> At 6:07 PM -0400 10/7/98, CUBSandOs@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 10/7/98 5:01:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, GIJoe@aol.com >writes: > >> Mattel or Milton Bradley? Considering that Mattel was the rival of hasbro >> and >> MB is a subsidiary of Hasbro. I think we definitly nee more info on these >> cards.....(these are not the 86 comic images..which suck...these are high >> quality Cartoon and figure art cards) >Sorry, Milton Bradley is what I meant... Now could someone please tell me >about the Milton Bradley cards... 192 cards in the set, released in 1986 by Milton Bradley (I believe this was before MB was purchased by Hasbro). There were 8 cards and one sticker to every pack. There're pics of two cards at- There're pics of a carded pack of the cards at- Concur with John - the MB cards are very high quality cards - and very expensive and hard to find. I'd almost venture to say that getting a complete set of 192 cards is more difficult than getting a complete set of 500+ action figures. -Eugene ------------------------------------------------------------ eugenE | YO JOE! |--------------------------------------- eson(*)yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! ------------------------------------------------------------ "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" ------------------------------------------------------------ "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.5 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: Re: Milton Bradley Cards Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 20:12:09 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/98 8:09:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eson@yojoe.com writes: > Concur with John - the MB cards are very high quality cards - and very > expensive and hard to find. I'd almost venture to say that getting a > complete set of 192 cards is more difficult than getting a complete set of > 500+ action figures. > > > -Eugene WOW!... What do singles go for? I was gonna go after this set, but dont know how hard that will be now Matt --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.6 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Web Page name...? Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:37:15 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What do you guys think the perfect name would be for a dedicated vehicle database...MARS is already taken. Intelligence Files? ummm...how 'bout GIJOE: Rank&File? Chunky Monkey? ThanX! --Ben&Jerry --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.7 --------------- From: cedwards@tcia.net (Christopher Edwards) Subject: Field guide etc. Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 22:16:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit West End went bellyup? I thought they were churning out faux-Star Wars continuity to beat the band. Shows how closely I watch the role-playing game world. Okay, the D6 thing has me a little boggled right now, but I'll work it out. Now, in Lady Jaye's Order of Battle listing, it says-"qualified expert...reflex crossbow." Scarlett's listing mentions a Power Crossbow. A lot of Joes are qualified with weapons they don't come with though (How many people thought Recondo's rifle was a Swedish K? I used to). And since Jaye's weapon looks nothing like a crossbow, power javelin suits me fine. And has anybody else noticed that none of the female figures came with a conventional firearm? The Baroness comes closest, but even she gets stuck with a laser rifle. I say, when they bring the Joes back to stay, start passing the gals some M-16's, okay? Squinting at tiny machine guns has made me punchy. High John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.8 --------------- From: "Jody Hewitt" Subject: RE: Web Page name...? Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:04:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <199810080139.SAA27799@lists1.best.com> > What do you guys think the perfect name would be for a dedicated vehicle > database...MARS is already taken. Intelligence Files? ummm...how 'bout > GIJOE: Rank&File? Chunky Monkey? > > ThanX! > --Ben&Jerry I've already begun/finished working on a dedicated vehicle database. If I can be of any help/service, please drop me a line or have a look at the work I have already completed. Visit http://www.extensiveenterprises.com/crimsonguard/research/ To see what has been done, if you haven't already. Later. Jody Hewitt Curator/Webmaster ExtensiveEnterprises.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.9 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Web Page name...? Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:56:43 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << I've already begun/finished working on a dedicated vehicle database. If I can be of any help/service, please drop me a line or have a look at the work I have already completed. Visit http://www.extensiveenterprises.com/crimsonguard/research/ To see what has been done, if you haven't already. Later. Jody Hewitt Curator/Webmaster ExtensiveEnterprises.com >> I have been by your site before, and it kicks it with the best of 'em. The database is shaping up quite nicely. If i ever get a scanner, i'll take pictures of Joes in compromising positions and apply for membership with the Crimson Guard. My database will have specs like Armaments, Special Equipment, Power Plant, Max Speed, Range, ect. The specs from the 1991 card set. I haven't seen any of that info on the net yet. I'm always tryin' for something new. Hasta La Pinche' --Jennifer Love Hewitt http://members.aol.com/BADSCNAME/Odyssey/main.html --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.10 --------------- From: Eugene Subject: Re: Milton Bradley Cards Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:05:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810080013.RAA05185@lists1.best.com> At 5:12 PM -0700 10/7/98, CUBSandOs@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 10/7/98 8:09:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eson@yojoe.com >writes: > >> Concur with John - the MB cards are very high quality cards - and very >> expensive and hard to find. I'd almost venture to say that getting a >> complete set of 192 cards is more difficult than getting a complete set of >> 500+ action figures. > >WOW!... What do singles go for? I was gonna go after this set, but dont know >how hard that will be now >Matt I've never seen singles for sale. But one guy I know who got a complete set (took him several years) told me that the average price he's seen for most singles are about $1 each. Of course, that was at Joe shows and the like. I've only seen them for sale on Ebay - either in bunches or carded packs. Me, I've only got 184 more to go to complete my set. :) -Eugene ------------------------------------------------------------ eugenE | YO JOE! |--------------------------------------- eson@yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! ------------------------------------------------------------ "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" ------------------------------------------------------------ "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.11 --------------- From: Calvin Woo Subject: Re: Milton Bradley Cards Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:34:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810080505.WAA01119@lists1.best.com> I think they came out in 1986 and they were based on the Weather Dominator 5-parter (Can't remember the exact name of that series) The set included box and card art of figures from 1982-1985 with the exception of Roadblock who was in his 1986 uniform. The backs had the same info as the filecards for the figures and the vehicles just had info on them. The cartoon cards were scenes from the 5-part series. The back gave a bit of a description of the scene. I believe a Series II was supposed to be released in late 1986 because, the set never finished the show. It showed scenes of the first half of the Weather Dominator (up to part 3) The rest was probably supposed to be released in late 1986 or early 1987 with the card art for the 1986 and/or 1987 figures. I believe these cards didn't sell well enough for the second series to be produced, or else something happened to the company. I wish I had the set but I still need about 20 cards. I have a lot of doubles stashed away somewhere. If I find them, I'll let you guys know and maybe we could help each other finish the sets. The interesting thing I noted was that the cards were not totally randomly distributed. If you see two packs that had the same card on the top, those two packs will come with the identical cards. I accidentally bought two packs that had Lady Jaye on the front and they were both identical. I gave up completing the set cause it got to the point where I would get one card out of 5 packs that I needed. That might be why so many people still don't have complete sets. Calvin On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Eugene wrote: > At 5:12 PM -0700 10/7/98, CUBSandOs@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 10/7/98 8:09:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eson@yojoe.com > >writes: > > > >> Concur with John - the MB cards are very high quality cards - and very > >> expensive and hard to find. I'd almost venture to say that getting a > >> complete set of 192 cards is more difficult than getting a complete set of > >> 500+ action figures. > > > >WOW!... What do singles go for? I was gonna go after this set, but dont know > >how hard that will be now > >Matt > > I've never seen singles for sale. But one guy I know who got a complete > set (took him several years) told me that the average price he's seen for > most singles are about $1 each. Of course, that was at Joe shows and the > like. I've only seen them for sale on Ebay - either in bunches or carded > packs. > > Me, I've only got 184 more to go to complete my set. :) > > > -Eugene > ------------------------------------------------------------ > eugenE | YO JOE! > |--------------------------------------- > eson@yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! > ------------------------------------------------------------ > "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not > believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift > from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they > got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." > - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you > ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.12 --------------- From: Eugene Subject: 1998 Joes in store? Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:54:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <199810080505.WAA01119@lists1.best.com> In-Reply-To: <199810080535.WAA21505@lists1.best.com> Surprised that no one else has jumped on this, but in the usenet newsgroup , Mike Mar (aka Zartan on the newsgroup) has reported buying the new 1998 Joes figures at a Toys R Us store in Toronto, Canada. So start checking your TRUs. -Eugene ------------------------------------------------------------ eugenE | YO JOE! |--------------------------------------- eson@yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! ------------------------------------------------------------ "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" ------------------------------------------------------------ "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.13 --------------- From: WyvernDrag@aol.com Subject: Re: 1998 Joes in store? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 02:24:24 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I read the post, and the very next morning, I went to my local Toys R Us, the one I used to work at, but they haven't gottne them in yet. A friend of mine works there, and he said that they get their shipments in on Tuesdays and Fridays, so I'll check back then. C-V --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.14 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: 1998 Joes in store? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 04:07:57 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, joy. It usually takes six months to a year for everything to trickle down here anyway. Bakersfield sucks. --Buck Owens --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.15 --------------- From: "Jonathan Krenz" Subject: 98 Joes Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 04:47:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT They're out in Canada? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Uh, I guess I should actually check if they are in Canada......I live 45 minutes from Toronto. Hey, no offense to America, but dang, I hated waiting 4 extra months for last years Joes! So please excuse my excitement.... (Hope it's not a rumour) Jonathan Krenz k010264@niagarac.on.ca www.geocities.com/area51/rampart/5608 www.geocities.com/area51/rampart/5608/sega.html --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.16 --------------- From: "DeVoe, Gary (DEVOEGW)" Subject: RE: Web Page name...? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:09:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ben and/or Jerry: Howzabout "The Chaplain's Motor Pool" --? -Gary -----Original Message----- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com [SMTP:BADSCNAME@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 9:37 PM To: gijoe@lists.best.com Subject: Web Page name...? What do you guys think the perfect name would be for a dedicated vehicle database...MARS is already taken. Intelligence Files? ummm...how 'bout GIJOE: Rank&File? Chunky Monkey? ThanX! --Ben&Jerry --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.17 --------------- From: "Jody Hewitt" Subject: RE: Web Page name...? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:38:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <199810080357.UAA18380@lists1.best.com> > I have been by your site before, and it kicks it with the best of > 'em. The > database is shaping up quite nicely. If i ever get a scanner, i'll take > pictures of Joes in compromising positions and apply for > membership with the > Crimson Guard. My database will have specs like Armaments, > Special Equipment, > Power Plant, Max Speed, Range, ect. The specs from the 1991 card set. I > haven't seen any of that info on the net yet. I'm always tryin' > for something > new. Actually, this does sound like a great idea. The statistics would probably fit in nicely with the people who are planning the D6 style RPG. Good luck. Later. Jody Hewitt Curator/Webmaster ExtensiveEnterprises.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.18 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: 98 joes in Canada? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:26:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A friend of mine that I've traded with in Canada lives close to Toronto. I told him the rumor of the 98 joes being in the TRU store in Toronto,he said he would call them today to find out if it's true! So I should have this info for you tonight or in the morning. Is anybody as excited as I? Keep your fingers crossed,people! Tim (who's keeping HIS fingers crossed) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.19 --------------- From: Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com Subject: Tactical Battle Platform Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:34:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I can confirm that this came with a 4 pack of dark gray guns. been awhile since i've looked at them but what's already been posted seems to mesh with my memory. I remember always having problems with the gun rack staying in the slot it belonged in... slight size issue difference i think. speaking of the platform, what did everyone think about it? i know i loved it as a kid, but it seems like no one wants one these days - i've seen them selling ultra-cheap. it was a manageable size, you could dock a sharc or other watercraft next to it, pop a skyhawk on the heli-pad... had plenty of locations to place the guys... all in all, probably my favorite playset after the bivouac/watchtower combination. (keep in mind, i didn't have the terror drome, or defiant, or... :) hated the flagg, though. granted, it was huge, but i was plenty content to use the table or floor to launch my jets and put that $100 toward more figures... -Kj, to quote from 'Clerks': "Oooooh! NAvy Seals!" --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.20 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: RE: Web Page name...? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 07:40:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---"DeVoe, Gary (DEVOEGW)" wrote: > > Ben and/or Jerry: > > Howzabout "The Chaplain's Motor Pool" --? That would be "Chaplains' Assistants Motor Pool". Good idea, though. Also, does anyone have a page called "Fort Wadsworth"? James McFadden _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.21 --------------- From: "Corey Cockerham" Subject: Re: Tactical Battle Platform Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:23:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Default Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Tactical Battle Platform was definitely one of my favorites, even though I never had many vehicles or playsets, mostly the figures. I did have the Defiant (which was awesome), but I loved to dock my Devil Fish next to my Platform (since I live near the Louisiana coast, it kind of resembles the oil rigs we have). They do go for cheap these days; as a matter of fact I am bidding on the Platform at eBay right now, and for several days I had the "high bid" of $5 (no one else had even bid on it), and now it is still only $14 or so. Corey Cockerham corey@cajun.net ---------- > From: Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com > To: gijoe@lists.best.com > Subject: Tactical Battle Platform > Date: Thursday, October 08, 1998 9:34 AM > > I can confirm that this came with a 4 pack of dark gray guns. been awhile > since i've looked at them but what's already been posted seems to mesh with > my memory. I remember always having problems with the gun rack staying in > the slot it belonged in... slight size issue difference i think. > > speaking of the platform, what did everyone think about it? i know i loved > it as a kid, but it seems like no one wants one these days - i've seen them > selling ultra-cheap. it was a manageable size, you could dock a sharc or > other watercraft next to it, pop a skyhawk on the heli-pad... had plenty of > locations to place the guys... all in all, probably my favorite playset > after the bivouac/watchtower combination. > > (keep in mind, i didn't have the terror drome, or defiant, or... :) > > hated the flagg, though. granted, it was huge, but i was plenty content to > use the table or floor to launch my jets and put that $100 toward more > figures... > > -Kj, to quote from 'Clerks': "Oooooh! NAvy Seals!" > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.22 --------------- From: Rod Pellegrini Subject: Re: taking apart Joes Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:21:18 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >> From: SNARF5181@aol.com >> Subject: Re: taking apart Joes >> >> In a message dated 10/6/98 8:48:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> GIJoe@aol.com >> writes: >> >> << The head is a larger >> swivel joint, so it will not fit into a socket like on jink without >> some major modification. >> >> >> is this the same as the 97's? >> because the stars and stripes heads are very annoying >> (when i tried to change them with my other figures i was pissed--lets >> just say these 98 figures better be of higher quality than the stars >> and stripes BS) Whoa, whoa, whoa! Now slow down! You may be too young to remember, but the necks of the Stars and Stripes set are the way they originally were. Granted, the paint and plastic quality of pretty much all 97 joes sucked, but if you're reffering to the shape of the head socket (disc instead of ball) you should know that those are considered "classic" by most collectors. Some people might get offended at that BS comment :) And no, the neck in the ninja force figures (and Mortal Kombat figures) wasn't exactly like the old joes', but it was very similar. I'd wager you wouldn't have much trouble fitting ninja force heads in old bodies. Rockhammer KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // "ROCK CHALK JAYHAWKS" KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU ////////////////////////////////////////// KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Rod A. Pellegrini KKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Jayhawks rule!!!!! KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // rodpelle@falcon.cc.ukans.edu KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // Live long and prosper KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // May the force be with you --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.23 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: Web Page name...? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:35:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 From: DeVoe, Gary (DEVOEGW) Date: Thursday, October 08, 1998 6:24 AM > Howzabout "The Chaplain's Motor Pool" --? Shouldn't that be "The Chaplains Assistants' Motor Pool"? Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNhzbsMSNrCBK3ASDEQKaKACgn4FG+lqVSd0D+PtD0IR4sNn4RSQAnAvT nNg4Jpcsru3ZbSR19cobFUCs =T5T9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.24 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: Milton Bradley Cards Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:53:48 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had some of these cards in 86 and problems abound then and now... 1) Card Stock - poor quality, very thin, which caused easy damage 2) Price Point - these were a little high in 86 over $1/pack ($1.79 I think) 3) Distribution - I only saw em at K-Marts in Mississippi 4) Pictures - MANY of the cartoon shots are out of focus, poorly cropped, bad photo, poor color, etc...The package art cards are excellant though I only managed to keep six of these.... I prefer the nicely done yet WAY overproduced 1991 Impel cards..... the 87 Comic Images are ok, and the 30th Ann. set is nice..the worst set might just be the "live action" cards in the comics, and figures.... Steeler - wishing he had another card besides the IMPEL version --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.25 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: Web Page name...? Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 09:04:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810081311.GAA00954@lists1.best.com> DeVoe, Gary (DEVOEGW) wrote: > > Ben and/or Jerry: > > Howzabout "The Chaplain's Motor Pool" --? > > -Gary Housing such vehicles as the Tactical Battle Bible, the Kosher Cobra Killer and the Priest-Bot? -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.26 --------------- From: Ed Dam Subject: Re: 1998 Joes in store? Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 12:16:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810080505.WAA01119@lists1.best.com> <199810080555.WAA03596@lists1.best.com> I live near Toronto......I will go to Toys R Us this afternoon and check it out...will report back later, keep your fingers crossed!!!! Eugene wrote: > Surprised that no one else has jumped on this, but in the usenet newsgroup > , Mike Mar (aka Zartan on the newsgroup) has > reported buying the new 1998 Joes figures at a Toys R Us store in Toronto, > Canada. > > So start checking your TRUs. > > -Eugene > ------------------------------------------------------------ > eugenE | YO JOE! > |--------------------------------------- > eson@yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! > ------------------------------------------------------------ > "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not > believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift > from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they > got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." > - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you > ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard > ------------------------------------------------------------ -- http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/tripcock/45/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/minstrel.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/titanic.html "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house" Ed Dam damed@iaw.on.ca --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.27 --------------- From: le_saint1@hotmail.com Subject: Joe Heaven ? Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:16:56 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought I'd share this lil idea :) >Hi again, > Bummer on that shipping dilema. > Might allmost be worth it if a bunch of guys got together and had a big box >sent over ( FedEx would not be so cost prohibitive on larger items vs. many >smaller ones ). HMMMMMMmmmmmmmm.............. > Ah,well ..... ( picture Al here , along with the rest of the list, I imagine - >drooling all over.... ).. I *DO * know some Navy guys but not sure of any going >to the Phillipines or anything. > Do buy up as many of those as you can, maybe some day you can reap the profits >on em or something ( hate to see them get 'lost' ). WHOA ! I'm not that rich....waaaaay too many :c( > AL / rocketeer >ps: food for thought ( if you'd be interested ) is to get some list members >together and place a big ' order' with ya ( for a ' finder fee' of course >..8-)... interested ? , or would the shipping be too much hassle ? HEY...now there's a Thought :) Actually, I got a LOT of responses about this. Some are even willing to put up a Collective Effort to Ship in a Big Box Full of Joes to the continental US. WHat do you guys & gals think ? would most of the list chip in and ship a big box over ? A lot of items means the shipping cost would be spread out, right ? If you guys got any working ideas (I'm fresh out) let me know if I can help out. heheheh...shipping is a headache *pops an aspirin* :P btw, the MOC stuff available here also includes : most of the Eco-Warriors, D.E.F., Shadow Warrior Ninja Force, & Star Brigade, some STreet Fighters, MIB Vehicles (eco-striker, cobra invader, starfighter, cobra scorpion, Razor Blade, Manta Ray, Shark 9000) basically '94 releases ;) and a few weird stuff (I plan to submit scans of these to yojoe.com): Joe Walkie Talkies (early 80's GI Joe logo), locally-printed activity books, stick-ons, unique mixed&matched figures sold in stores (i.e. Blocker upper body& Firefly Version1 torso & legs, Blizzard version1in Flak Viper bubble&card) the store staff must be experimenting...heheheh.... Who knows what else they got stashed in their warehouse. (I intend to find out in a few weeks) I hope you're not sick of my postings by now, though I rarely post. Take care all ;D richard --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.28 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: 98 joes in Canada? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:29:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well,my friend checked and... The rumors were... scroll down TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY ARE AVAILABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Special thanks to Paul Timmermans from Canada (he's no relation,I met him on the net) for this scoop!! We are all happy,right?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tim (WHOOHOO,WHOOHOO) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.29 --------------- From: Calvin Woo Subject: Re: 1998 Joes in store? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:30:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810081627.JAA00109@lists1.best.com> I just checked Toys R Us in Vancouver, BC and they don't have 1998 Joes yet. They only have the Rage and Slugger. They also had some 12 inch Han Solo with Tauntaun for those Star Wars collectors. Calvin On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Ed Dam wrote: > I live near Toronto......I will go to Toys R Us this afternoon and check it > out...will report back later, keep your fingers crossed!!!! > > Eugene wrote: > > > Surprised that no one else has jumped on this, but in the usenet newsgroup > > , Mike Mar (aka Zartan on the newsgroup) has > > reported buying the new 1998 Joes figures at a Toys R Us store in Toronto, > > Canada. > > > > So start checking your TRUs. > > > > -Eugene > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > eugenE | YO JOE! > > |--------------------------------------- > > eson@yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not > > believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift > > from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they > > got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." > > - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you > > ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -- > http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/tripcock/45/ > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/ > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/minstrel.html > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/titanic.html > > > > "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house" > > Ed Dam damed@iaw.on.ca > > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n701.30 --------------- From: "Jody Hewitt" Subject: Something new Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:22:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings ladies and gents! I thought I'd try something new out with my figures, and as a result, I've assembled a short story. Please drop by and have a look at http://www.extensiveenterprises.com/crimsonguard and check out "Abduction." Later. Jody Hewitt Curator/Webmaster ExtensiveEnterprises.com --------------- END gijoe.v001.n701 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n702 -------------- 001 - SNARF5181@aol.com - Re: taking apart Joes 002 - GIJoe@aol.com - Re: Web Page name...? 003 - CUBSandOs@aol.com - I need European Tiger Force (someone help me!) 004 - GIJoe@aol.com - Re: Field guide etc. 005 - Ed Dam - Re: 98 joes in Canada? 006 - Matt_Krajewski@progressiv - cards and what-not 007 - "Jody Hewitt" - Re: 98 joes in Canada? 012 - mike-gijoe@juno.com (mich - BurkLaura@aol.com: Turtles 013 - John A Woods - RE: 98 joes in Canada? 023 - GIJoe@aol.com - Re: cards and what-not 024 - BADSCNAME@aol.com - Re: cards and what-not 025 - BADSCNAME@aol.com - 1998 Joes 026 - SNARF5181@aol.com - Re: 98 joes in Canada? 027 - rktmoose@ix.netcom.com - soap on a rope 028 - BespinRunt@aol.com - All The Joes Fit To Print 029 - "Jody Hewitt" > well im sorry then i had a thunder figure (never took him apart) but that was the oldest i had i had a lot from series 3 and on but you can understand where im coming from--i was hoping that i could at least use these figures for parts since i wasn't too happy with them but i couldn't switch there heads w/ my other figs and i had no clue that this was the way the old joes were --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.2 --------------- From: GIJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: Web Page name...? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:54:39 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/8/98 12:28:01 Eastern Daylight Time, crazyguy@cnnw.net writes: << Housing such vehicles as the Tactical Battle Bible, the Kosher Cobra Killer and the Priest-Bot? >> With Missal Launchers and Holy-Wafer mines that really launch.... John "Lame last name" Missal. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.3 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: I need European Tiger Force (someone help me!) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:47:06 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am sorry for posting this to the list, but I am in need of the European Tiger Force figures, and since I noticed a lot fo the people on the list are from Europe, could someone spare some? I need all but Outback and Hit N Run Let me know Thanks for your time Matt --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.4 --------------- From: GIJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: Field guide etc. Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:38:44 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Part of giving female joes, non-firearms weapons goes with the part about women weren't in combat in the 80's. Scarlett, Lady Jaye, Baroness, and Jinx are all intelligence/support specialists. Cover Girl was the only combatant female being Armor (which in that time was unheard of. Hasbro took a risk with that). Now that in the 90's we are seeing more front line women its seems more OK to us, and since we grew up with Scarlett and Lady Jaye being "combatants" we are accustomed to it, but normally, it was bad form for Women to have that kind of equipment. Hasbro has definitly paved the way for women in combat providing role model characters, but its totally new to battle fronts. John M. In a message dated 10/7/98 23:23:19 Eastern Daylight Time, cedwards@tcia.net writes: << And has anybody else noticed that none of the female figures came with a conventional firearm? The Baroness comes closest, but even she gets stuck with a laser rifle. I say, when they bring the Joes back to stay, start passing the gals some M-16's, okay? Squinting at tiny machine guns has made me punchy. High John >> --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.5 --------------- From: Ed Dam Subject: Re: 98 joes in Canada? Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 16:25:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810081831.LAA14610@lists1.best.com> Contrary to what you see below, I live in the Toronto area, and went to 3 different Toys R Us stores this aft, and I called 2 others....all with the same response....NO new joes yet.. All say that they get new shipments Friday, and they may be in there..... There are a lot of Toys R Us stores in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area), but I find it hard to believe that the joes would be at one and not the others....... Anyway, I will check again on the weekend and let you know Keep hoping Ed Timmer Auto wrote: > Well,my friend checked and... > The rumors were... > scroll down > > TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > THEY ARE AVAILABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Special thanks to Paul Timmermans from Canada > (he's no relation,I met him on the net) for this scoop!! > > We are all happy,right?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Tim (WHOOHOO,WHOOHOO) -- http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/tripcock/45/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/minstrel.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/titanic.html "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house" Ed Dam damed@iaw.on.ca --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.6 --------------- From: Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com Subject: cards and what-not Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:41:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Steeler had some card comments, my comments will be the (kj) ones... 1) Card Stock - poor quality, very thin, which caused easy damage (kj) yeah, a bit thin, but shiny! 2) Price Point - these were a little high in 86 over $1/pack ($1.79 I think) (kj) initially i think this was the case, but distinctly remember some places clearancing them out, hills/gold circle comes to mind... 3) Distribution - I only saw em at K-Marts in Mississippi (kj) had better luck, i remember them being at the big toy stores (children's palace, kiddie city, et al), as well as the smaller k-mart/gold circle/zayre... (wonder if these were regional or national stores?) 4) Pictures - MANY of the cartoon shots are out of focus, poorly cropped, bad photo, poor color, etc...The package art cards are excellant though (kj) yep yep yep. the reverse negative shots were a bonus for me, though. (kj) I really didn't buy any of these whatsoever, and i can't remember my rational... though i do have the complete set of transformer cards, minus 2. they came out at the same time, had scenes from the first years' eps, along with the 'box art' characters, same as the joe set. i was into drawing transformers at the time, which i believe was my biggest draw to those instead. my biggest gripe was the mixture of cards. along with some friends, there were some cards that all of us had 5+ of, and others that absolutely none of us had. (kj) richard mentioned the Joe Walkie Talkies... I had these as a kid! loved them. didn't work too great, though... (kj) i would consider throwing in on a "big ol' box of joes"... keep us posted. (kj) - quite thankful the indians didn't sign knoblauch... :) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.7 --------------- From: "Jody Hewitt" Subject: RE: 98 joes in Canada? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:48:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <199810082102.OAA05879@lists1.best.com> I just returned from the Toys'R'Us on Lawrence East in Toronto, and they do have the Joes. I picked up all four sets. They have quite an ample stock. I brought the items home, and I scanned in some images. I've sent them to Eugene at YOJOE.COM and hopefully he'll post them for all to see. Anyway, I can confirm that the rumours are true. Later. > Contrary to what you see below, I live in the Toronto area, and went to > 3 different Toys R Us stores this aft, and I called 2 others....all with > the same response....NO new joes yet.. All say that they get new > shipments Friday, and they may be in there..... > There are a lot of Toys R Us stores in the GTA (Greater Toronto > Area), but I find it hard to believe that the joes would be at one and > not the others....... > > Anyway, I will check again on the weekend and let you know > > Keep hoping > > > Ed > > > Timmer Auto wrote: > > > Well,my friend checked and... > > The rumors were... > > scroll down > > > > TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > THEY ARE AVAILABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > Special thanks to Paul Timmermans from Canada > > (he's no relation,I met him on the net) for this scoop!! > > > > We are all happy,right?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > Tim (WHOOHOO,WHOOHOO) > > > > -- > http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/tripcock/45/ > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/ > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/minstrel.html > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/titanic.html > > > > "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house" > > Ed Dam damed@iaw.on.ca > > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.8 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: 98 joes in Canada? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:59:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well,Paul called a toy store and they said they had the new joes. He would be going down there himself and get them.(possibly today,for sure this weekend) I will keep you posted as soon as I hear something. Perhaps it is possible some stores get deliveries on other days? I'm just telling you what Paul told me. I admit that my message was very enthousiastic, but I still think that the new joes ARE out there. Perhaps a way to be sure would be if Thomas Wheeler could check with Hasbro to see if any shipments have gone out. Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.9 --------------- From: "Gary W. DeVoe" Subject: Re: cards and what-not Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:21:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:41 PM 10/8/98 -0400, you wrote: >(kj) richard mentioned the Joe Walkie Talkies... I had these as a kid! >loved them. >didn't work too great, though... --------------> I still have my G.I.Joe travel toothbrush... -Triage --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.10 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: 98 joes in Canada? Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 00:16:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit THANK YOU,Jody... I'll put you on my Christmas card list... Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.11 --------------- From: Ed Dam Subject: Re: 98 joes in Canada? Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:07:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810082149.OAA10735@lists1.best.com> Funny you should mention the Lawrence East Toys R Us....I called them, and was told that they were not there.... Ah well, goes to show you that the people on the phones at TRU don't always know what they are talking about....... I STAND CORRECTED!!!! (and am very happy about it) WooHoo For Canada! Ed Jody Hewitt wrote: > I just returned from the Toys'R'Us on Lawrence East in Toronto, and they do > have the Joes. I picked up all four sets. They have quite an ample stock. > > I brought the items home, and I scanned in some images. I've sent them to > Eugene at YOJOE.COM and hopefully he'll post them for all to see. > > Anyway, I can confirm that the rumours are true. > > Later. > > > Contrary to what you see below, I live in the Toronto area, and went to > > 3 different Toys R Us stores this aft, and I called 2 others....all with > > the same response....NO new joes yet.. All say that they get new > > shipments Friday, and they may be in there..... > > There are a lot of Toys R Us stores in the GTA (Greater Toronto > > Area), but I find it hard to believe that the joes would be at one and > > not the others....... > > > > Anyway, I will check again on the weekend and let you know > > > > Keep hoping > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > Timmer Auto wrote: > > > > > Well,my friend checked and... > > > The rumors were... > > > scroll down > > > > > > TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > THEY ARE AVAILABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > Special thanks to Paul Timmermans from Canada > > > (he's no relation,I met him on the net) for this scoop!! > > > > > > We are all happy,right?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > Tim (WHOOHOO,WHOOHOO) > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/tripcock/45/ > > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/ > > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/minstrel.html > > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html > > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/titanic.html > > > > > > > > "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house" > > > > Ed Dam damed@iaw.on.ca > > > > > > -- http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/tripcock/45/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/minstrel.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/titanic.html "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house" Ed Dam damed@iaw.on.ca --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.12 --------------- From: mike-gijoe@juno.com (michael l poulson) Subject: BurkLaura@aol.com: Turtles Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:28:16 -0600 --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: BurkLaura@aol.com To: mike-gijoe@juno.com Subject: Turtles Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:04:26 EDT Message-ID: Please send me the picture of the turtles. Thanks Laura --------- End forwarded message ---------- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.13 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: RE: Re: Weekend Finds Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:23:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > but the Fact is: > There _IS_ a HUGE stock of Joes left in the Philippines. > > Undeniable. > > it's like the Joes have never left since 1994. I wish I'd known this a year ago when I had a friend living over there. But if all there is is 1994 stuff. Is their anything good from that year? I'm totally out of it past 1988. Also are they packaged in U.S. packaging or do you they have some neato Philopino designs? Are there any Chinese or Japanese carded stuff? -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.14 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Milton Bradley Cards Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:23:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:07 PM 10/7/98 EDT, you wrote: >Sorry, Milton Bradley is what I meant... Now could someone please tell me >about the Milton Bradley cards... Well I have a 16 cards from those days, they are very nice, using packaging pictures and stills from the toon. No they are not for sale :) I wouldn't mind working on the rest of this set, cheaper than the toys. I'd guess they'd sell for 10 to 25 cents each. I imagine they would be tough to get, but 80s GI Joe is not that big in the collector market and most people want either the toys or the comics. I'd reccomend asking your local card stores, people do come in trying to sell such "junk" and if they might know someone who has them. Also try a card show, then try the internet and mail order dealers. There must be a lot of these cards collecting dust somewhere. BTW the copywrite on my cards says 1986 Hasbro. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.15 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Questions for Larry Hama Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:23:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Its possible that these questions have been asked before but I might as well ask anyways and hope our celebrity member will answer. 1. Out of the all the characters that made it into the regular comic series what specific characters or teams did you not like or just plain hated to use, but were forced to use because of Hasbro demands, lack of characters (particularly in the early issues) or some other reason? 2. Out of those characters you were forced to include against your wishes, were there any that you ended up liking over time? 3. I've read that you would never know how an issue ended until you finished writing it. But I was wondering if the return of the orginal Cobra Commander was a planned event or if it just sort of happened? After he was first "killed" it was said many times in the letters page that he was truly dead and buried, and it sounded like a permanent thing. So I'm wondering if writing his return was an easy thing for you to do? 4. How much time would go between writing a script and its publishing? Thanks for any answers! -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.16 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Tactical Battle Platform Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:23:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:34 AM 10/8/98 -0400, you wrote: >speaking of the platform, what did everyone think about it? i know i loved >it as a kid, but it seems like no one wants one these days - i've seen them >selling ultra-cheap. it was a manageable size, you could dock a sharc or >other watercraft next to it, pop a skyhawk on the heli-pad... had plenty of >locations to place the guys... all in all, probably my favorite playset >after the bivouac/watchtower combination. Its pretty nice but it does not have the look of a true military base. As a kid I would alternate using the hovercraft as a base or a ship, the platform just sat there looking like an oil platform. >hated the flagg, though. granted, it was huge, but i was plenty content to >use the table or floor to launch my jets and put that $100 toward more >figures... I was never into the jets, sure I wanted them, but when it came to buy I'd pick a land vecihle or one of the various bunkers. The problem with aircraft is that you can't pile the guys on them and then send them speeding arcoss the kitchen floor to crash. The Flagg nice as it is, is really a dust collector. Too big to move around and most of those big toys loose their appeal after the first month. Also few parents are willing to buy such monsters. An example of 80s excess. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.17 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: May i pick your nose...? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:23:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:53 PM 10/6/98 -0700, you wrote: > > 1) The Annual Wizard Price Guide has a section for Joe comics you can >pick one up at most hobby or comic shops. (Reminder: THIS IS THE ANNUAL >GUIDE, not the monthly one.) Just to note, though, most Joe comics can be If GI Joe is all you collect, then go to your local library, many large public libraries carry the Overstreet priceguide. Or you could just read the guide in yout local store. >bought for under $3 except 1-4 which are in the $10-$20 range. Of course, Well I contest this, in the past month I bought a mint #1 for $5, #2 for $5(but that was a reprint I unintionally bought) and #3 for $1.50 (that was a 50% off sale) and those are in Canadian dollars where $1 USD equals about $1.50 CD. >this is depending on who you buy from, but anything higher than $4 for >common issues is really not a good buy, most of the time you can pick up Joe >comics in .50 cent boxes at conventions and flea markets. In fact the >Heroes Convention had a guy selling 100 comics for 15 dollars and he had >about five runs of G.I. Joe 50-74 I picked up a set along with some others. Personally I'll pay as much as $3 for a near mint issue from the first 30 issues, $2.50 for 31-49 and $2 to cover price for 50-155. Of course you can often find gi joe in the 50 cent bins but those aren't always mint or near mint. It should be noted that 135 to 138 (I think!) came bagged with trading cards. If those don't come with the card then I would pay about half of cover price. Of course its a piece of cake to find these issues still sealed in bag. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.18 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: 94 joes (was weekend finds) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 00:51:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit They did have some good stuff, I loved the 94 Duke figure! Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.19 --------------- From: "Clayton Pearce" Subject: Re: 98 joes in Canada? Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 17:56:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I called them, and was > told that they were not there.... > Ah well, goes to show you that the people on the phones at TRU don't always > know what they are talking about....... I just called my TRU and asked if they had the new Joes, their reply was, "I don't know, let me check, they would be in the action figure section right?" Shows how much the people on the phones know. My suggestion, go check for your self. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.20 --------------- From: jerdlngr@juno.com (Jean E Riedlinger) Subject: Re: Field guide etc. Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:06:00 -0400 References: <199810082102.OAA05760@lists1.best.com> Women aren't allowed in combat now - at least not officially (they're excluded from certain MOSs - like infantry, combat engineering and basically anything that might lead to combat). I think that in the Gulf War, they were technically there in support positions but could defend themselves -- so they actually did see combat there. And they are given M-16s in basic training just like the men. What's even more remarkable than CG being in Armor (an MOS from which women aren't excluded anyway) is that they had a woman (let alone 4) in a special forces unit. Anyway, I agree - give the new female figures an M-16. -Jean -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I used to be with it, but then they changed what 'it' was. Now what I'm with isn't 'it' and what IS 'it' is weird and scary to me." -Grandpa Simpson ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.21 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: GI JOE Turtles Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:47:04 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 10/08/98 16:28:16 you wrote: > >--------- Begin forwarded message ---------- >From: BurkLaura@aol.com >To: mike-gijoe@juno.com >Subject: Turtles >Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:04:26 EDT >Message-ID: > >Please send me the picture of the turtles. > >Thanks >Laura > >--------- End forwarded message ---------- > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > OK, I think I missed something here. I mean , I've heard of / seen the Troll Turtles, Star Trek Turtles , even Apollo 13 Turtles but.... JOE Turtles ?!?!?! - rocketeer - ps: now you customizers get to work on these - I'd like to see em. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.22 --------------- From: Eugene Subject: RE: 98 joes in Canada? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:06:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <199810082102.OAA05879@lists1.best.com> In-Reply-To: <199810082149.OAA10735@lists1.best.com> At 5:48 PM -0400 10/8/98, Jody Hewitt wrote: >I brought the items home, and I scanned in some images. I've sent them to >Eugene at YOJOE.COM and hopefully he'll post them for all to see. Done. The pics are up at . Big thanks to Jody for scanning them in and getting me the images so quickly. I can't believe you only bought one Viper pack. :) Trust me, there's going to be a San Diego shortage of those Viper packs when I'm done. :) ******* OFF-TOPIC WEB-AUTHORING RANT: I finished the page 90 minutes ago. Checked it out on my Mac in Netscape. Page looked perfect. Just to make sure Windows users were getting the same experience, I launched Netscape on my PC and the page looked HORRIBLE. The frames were all out of whack and the page looked like it was designed by Alicia Masters. So I check Internet Explorer for the PC, and the page looks perfect. Grumble. So I make some changes and the layout is fine in Win Netscape. Just to play it safe, I launch Internet Explorer on my Mac and the close-up images are TOO DARK. Sure enough, I check my Netscape on my PC - the close-ups are too dark. So I spend more time editing. 90 minutes later, it's finished. It's a pretty sick world when my Mac Netscape behaves like my Win IE, and my Mac IE behaves like my Win Netscape. God knows I'm afraid to see what the page looks like under WebTV.... -Eugene ------------------------------------------------------------ eugenE | YO JOE! |--------------------------------------- eson(*)yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! ------------------------------------------------------------ "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" ------------------------------------------------------------ "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.23 --------------- From: GIJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: cards and what-not Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:05:57 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/8/98 18:44:17 Eastern Daylight Time, devoegw@UCMAIL.UC.EDU writes: << --------------> I still have my G.I.Joe travel toothbrush... -Triage >> Ummm....you may want to get a new one to replace it. I don;t think a 10 year old tooth brush is getting your teeth that clean....Now, My "Law" Soap on a Rope has lasted forever..... John M --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.24 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: cards and what-not Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:14:29 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << --------------> I still have my G.I.Joe travel toothbrush... -Triage >> eeew. I hope your not still using it! --Tooth Grinch --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.25 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: 1998 Joes Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:28:01 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well? Come on now guys! Don't hold us in suspense like this. Are the figures any good? Or do they fall apart when you break the seal and air comes into contact with them? --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.26 --------------- From: SNARF5181@aol.com Subject: Re: 98 joes in Canada? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:19:23 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/8/98 8:17:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eson@yojoe.com writes: << Done. The pics are up at . Big thanks to Jody for scanning them in and getting me the images so quickly. I can't believe you only bought one Viper pack. :) Trust me, there's going to be a San Diego shortage of those Viper packs when I'm done. :) >> the snow serpent link wasn't working for me ill try it again, but i thought you'd want to know --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.27 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: soap on a rope Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:32:20 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK, now what's this about ' Law' soap on a rope ?? Seems I am missing something for my collection....... - rocketeer - --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.28 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: All The Joes Fit To Print Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:55:11 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey all, I was just compiling a list over at Zartan's Domain of all the GIJoe members. I've got 177, and I figured I'd turn it over to you guys to check it. Lemme know if I've left anyone out, or not listed correct status... 1982 1) Breaker (deceased) 2) Clutch 3) Flash 4) Gen. Flagg II (deceased) 5) Grand Slam 6) Grunt 7) Hawk 8) Rock 'N Roll 9) Scarlett 10) Short-Fuze 11) Shooter 12) Snake-Eyes & Timber 13) Stalker 14) Steeler 15) Zap 1983 16) Ace 17) Airborne 18) Cover Girl 19) Doc (deceased) 20) Duke 21) Gung-Ho 22) Snow-Job 23) Steel Brigade Trooper 24) Torpedo 25) Tripwire 26) Wild Bill 1984 27) Blowtorch 28) Cutter 29) Deep-Six 30) General Austin (retired) 31) Mutt & Junkyard 32) Recondo 33) Ripcord 34) Roadblock 35) Sparks (retired) 36) Spirit & Freedom 37) Starduster 38) Thunder (deceased) 39) Toll Booth 1985 40) Airtight 41) Alpine 42) Barbeque 43) Bazooka 44) Crankcase (deceased) 45) Dusty & Sandstorm 46) Flint 47) Footloose 48) Frostbite 49) General Hollingsworth 50) Heavy Metal (deceased) 51) Keel Haul 52) Lady Jaye 53) Shipwreck & Polly 54) Quick Kick (deceased) 1986 55) Beachhead 56) Claymore 57) Cross Country 58) Dial-Tone 59) Iceberg 60) Leatherneck 61) Lifeline 62) Lift Ticket 63) Low-Light 64) Mainframe 65) Sci-Fi 66) Sgt. Slaughter 67) Slip Stream 68) Wet-Suit 1987 69) Avalanche (deceased) 70) Back Stop 71) Big Lob 72) Blaster (deceased) 73) Blocker (deceased) 74) Chuckles 75) Crazylegs (deceased) 76) Dodger 77) Fast Draw 78) Fridge 79) Hard Top 80) Jinx 81) Knockdown (deceased) 82) Law & Order 83) Lt. Falcon 84) Maverick (deceased) 85) Mercer 86) Outback 87) Payload 88) Psyche-Out 89) Red Dog 90) Rumbler 91) Sneak Peak (deceased) 92) Steamroller 93) Super Trooper 94) Taurus 95) Tunnel Rat 1988 96) Armadillo 97) Blizzard 98) Budo 99) Charbroil 100) Hardball 101) Hit & Run 102) Lightfoot 103) Mangler (deceased) 104) Muskrat 105) Repeater 106) Shockwave 107) Skidmark 108) Skystriker 109) Spearhead & Max 110) Storm Shadow 111) Wild Card 112) Windmill 1989 113) Backblast 114) Countdown 115) Dee-Jay (deceased) 116) Dogfight 117) Downtown 118) Hot Seat 119) Long Range 120) Recoil 121) Scoop 122) Windchill 1990 123) Airborne II 124) Airwave 125) Alititude 126) Ambush 127) Bullhorn 128) Capt. Grid Iron 129) Cold Front 130) Cool Breeze (deceased) 131) Drop Zone 132) Freefall 133) Major Alitiude 134) Major Storm 135) Pathfinder 136) Rampart 137) Rapid Fire 138) Salvo 139) Skydive 140) Static Line 141) Stretcher 142) Sub-Zero 143) Topside 144) Updraft 1991 145) Big Ben 146) Clean Sweep 147) Cloudburst 148) Dojo 149) Heavy Duty 150) Nunchuk 151) Ozone 152) Sky Mate 153) Tracker 154) T'jbang 1992 155) Barricade 156) Bullet-Proof 157) General Flagg III 1993 158) Blast-Off 159) Colonel Courage 160) Long Arm 161) Mace 162) Mirage 163) Robo-JOE 164) Snow Storm 165) T'Gin-Zu 1994 166) Effects 167) Gears 168) G.I.Joe Colton 169) Ice Cream Soldier 170) Space Shot 1995 171) D-Day 172) Dynamite 173) Grill 174) Headbanger 175) Mouse 176) Sgt. Savage 177) Tank 1998 178) Thunderwing Peas, Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.29 --------------- From: "Jody Hewitt" Subject: RE: 1998 Joes Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 22:21:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <199810090029.RAA28030@lists1.best.com> Actually, they seem to be of excellent quality. I didn't open any of the 1997 stuff because, well I didn't hear enough good about them to buy much of it. However, I think the quality on these is great. The only figure that I felt may break under some stress would be the female Oktober Guard. Her fore-arm (sp) seemed rather thin. Other than that the quality seems great. I did have one concern though. The Navy Seal pack came with only one weapon and one set of flippers. However, as we all know, it's a three pack. I guess there will be alot of sharing going on. ;-) Could make for difficult swimming. Personally, I am extremely happy. > Well? Come on now guys! Don't hold us in suspense like this. Are the > figures any good? Or do they fall apart when you break the seal > and air comes into contact with them? --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n702.30 --------------- From: WyvernDrag@aol.com Subject: Re: 1998 Joes Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 22:34:03 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit so far, the only thing I don't like about the 98 figs is the fact that the filecards don't have pics on them. why did they do that? C-V --------------- END gijoe.v001.n702 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n703 -------------- 001 - BADSCNAME@aol.com - Re: 1998 Joes 002 - "Robert Culpepper" - 98 Joes 020 - SNARF5181@aol.com - Re: 1998 Joes 021 - JSMosby61@aol.com - Re: Friday Chat! 022 - Steve Wagnon > So i guess Washinton has cut back on the Joe's defense budget? Only one man at a time in the water, please! --Wet Dress --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.2 --------------- From: "Robert Culpepper" Subject: Friday Chat! Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:45:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Friday's Here!!! That means it's chat night! We'll be chatting away at #Gijoe at irc.dal.net Friday night. Special thanks to AirAaron for registering the channel. The chat 'officially' begins at 9pm EST, but people often show up earlier. Use your favorite IRC software to join us, or use the Java gateway at http://www.dal.net/chatnew . The topic's bound to be the 1998s! (I'm going to try and find some to review before the chat). Last week: Last week's chat was pretty tame. Without Rockhammer and Zzarana, the party didn't go anywhere. Come on guys! We didn't even crash a vehicle!! Robert Culpepper Code Name: EagleEye --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.3 --------------- From: Calvin Woo Subject: RE: 1998 Joes Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 22:32:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810090223.TAA08635@lists1.best.com> Apparently, Volga IS Daina. Her filename says that shes Daina. The Navy Seal pack looks awesome except for the fact they only have one set of flippers. Good thing I didn't sell my extra set of 1986 Wetsuit flippers. Thanks much to Jody for sending the pictures to Eugene and thanks to Eugene for putting the pics up so fast. Can't wait till they arrive in Vancouver. Also, can't wait till you get all the pictures up on Extensive Enterprises. Calvin On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Jody Hewitt wrote: > Actually, they seem to be of excellent quality. I didn't open any of the > 1997 stuff because, well I didn't hear enough good about them to buy much of > it. However, I think the quality on these is great. The only figure that I > felt may break under some stress would be the female Oktober Guard. Her > fore-arm (sp) seemed rather thin. Other than that the quality seems great. > > I did have one concern though. The Navy Seal pack came with only one weapon > and one set of flippers. However, as we all know, it's a three pack. I > guess there will be alot of sharing going on. ;-) Could make for difficult > swimming. > > Personally, I am extremely happy. > > > Well? Come on now guys! Don't hold us in suspense like this. Are the > > figures any good? Or do they fall apart when you break the seal > > and air comes into contact with them? > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.4 --------------- From: GIJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: soap on a rope Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 02:26:10 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's exactly what it is. Its a Soap on a Rope, that has Law on it, and says in big letters on the box GIJOE. So its genuine.....I'll try to get a scan of it when I get the darn thing running again..... John M. In a message dated 10/8/98 21:45:41 Eastern Daylight Time, rktmoose@ix.netcom.com writes: << OK, now what's this about ' Law' soap on a rope ?? Seems I am missing something for my collection....... - rocketeer - >> --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.5 --------------- From: GIJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: 1998 Joes Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 02:29:47 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/8/98 23:19:33 Eastern Daylight Time, BADSCNAME@aol.com writes: << So i guess Washinton has cut back on the Joe's defense budget? Only one man at a time in the water, please! >> Great, what ever happened to the buddy system? John M. (raiding collection to find extra eel flippers as we speak...) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.6 --------------- From: GIJoe@aol.com Subject: Volga vs Daina Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 02:35:02 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know if anyone has noticed this on the scan of the file card or not, or if Thomas ever brought it up in his ramblings about stuff, but the Volga character's file name is Daina. And here I was, thinking we had been snubbed by Hasbro once again..... Much props to Thomas and who ever else pulled that one from the fire. John M. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.7 --------------- From: DrHarmoney@aol.com Subject: Action Hour Updated!! Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:09:50 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The newest episode of the Action Hours...ArmyMen Antics is up. Please have a look. Take Care -Ray --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.8 --------------- From: DrHarmoney@aol.com Subject: OOPS Action Hour URL Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:11:35 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The newest episode of the Action Hour is up at... www.geocities.com/Area51/Stargate/5819 Take care -Ray --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.9 --------------- From: "Jonathan Krenz" Subject: 98 Joes Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 06:09:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT heeheeheeheehee akdsauoasuhausuiha.cfsssssskc....kasjdddsads woohoohoohoohooooooooooo daui894499PPPPPP BDFUOUUHhhuuuuuuuu hhhhh888888nnnnnnnnnnnnn the 98 Joes are in..... u8901234u nnnnnnnnnnnn744444444440000[nnnnnnnnnnn;'''''''''''''' I'm gonna get 'em............ njyie84444444ynvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv but HANG IT ALL! I"M BROKE! AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHSHIZIT! Hmmm....Mastercard only requires a 13 dollar minimum payment this month......hmmmmm....... Jonathan Krenz k010264@niagarac.on.ca www.geocities.com/area51/rampart/5608 www.geocities.com/area51/rampart/5608/sega.html --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.10 --------------- From: "Jonathan Krenz" Subject: 98 Joes Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 06:15:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Uh, I guess I've been writing some strange comments here. Let me clarify... You know that weird feeling you get in your crotch when going over a large bump in the road, like railroad tracks (I don't know if this happens to females - I think it might be a male thing)? Well, that's how I feel about getting new Joes. So sometimes I can't speak or type properly. Right now it's 10:15 AM, I have two more classes, then I'm going to TRU here in St. Catharines, Ontario. And I only have 15 bucks! I don't get paid until Monday.....well, if they're in, at least I can touch 'em.... Jonathan Krenz k010264@niagarac.on.ca www.geocities.com/area51/rampart/5608 www.geocities.com/area51/rampart/5608/sega.html --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.11 --------------- From: Corey & Angela Stinson Subject: Re: 98 Joes Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 09:33:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810091417.HAA02085@lists1.best.com> At 06:15 AM 10/9/98 -0400, you wrote: >.....well, if they're in, at least I can touch 'em.... > >Jonathan Krenz >k010264@niagarac.on.ca And hide 'em in the kiddie toy aisle to return and get a later day, muahaha. :) -- _________________________________________________________________________ // Corey Stinson || stinson@anet-stl.com \\ \\ Systems Programmer || corey@masterclock.com // // Real-Time Applications & Embedded Systems || \\ \\ GUI Application Development || // // World Wide Web & CGI Development || \\ \\ C/C++/Visual C++ (MFC)/Assembler || // // DOS/Windows 3.x '95 NT/Netware/Un*x || \\ \\ ------------------------------------------++----------------------------// // No Love Stronger / No Pain Greater / No Hate Deeper / The Church Within \\ \\____- The Obsessed ______________________________________________________// --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.12 --------------- From: Scott Guthrie Subject: Re: 98 Joes Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 11:00:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Be smart.... put them on layaway :) At 09:33 AM 10/9/98 -0500, you wrote: >At 06:15 AM 10/9/98 -0400, you wrote: >>.....well, if they're in, at least I can touch 'em.... >> >>Jonathan Krenz >>k010264@niagarac.on.ca > > And hide 'em in the kiddie toy aisle to return and get a later day, >muahaha. :) > > >-- > _________________________________________________________________________ >// Corey Stinson || stinson@anet-stl.com \\ >\\ Systems Programmer || corey@masterclock.com // >// Real-Time Applications & Embedded Systems || \\ >\\ GUI Application Development || // >// World Wide Web & CGI Development || \\ >\\ C/C++/Visual C++ (MFC)/Assembler || // >// DOS/Windows 3.x '95 NT/Netware/Un*x || \\ >\\ ------------------------------------------++----------------------------// >// No Love Stronger / No Pain Greater / No Hate Deeper / The Church Within \\ >\\____- The Obsessed ______________________________________________________// > > Scott Guthrie Electronic Technician Department of Physical Security 419-372-6953 sguthri@bgnet.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/offices/physplant/sec/ps-main.htm --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.13 --------------- From: "Jonathan Krenz" Subject: 98 Joes Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:21:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Well, since the Joes are in Canada first (wuhuhahaha!!!) I don't need to trade Joes (though I'll still do that if anyone is interested). So I'll sell Joes too. Here's my list: Values are taken from a 1993 American price list and are completely negotiable. All markings are Canadian. Key - M mint (flawless) NM near mint (smallest wear) VG very good (slight wear) G good ("played with") LJ loose joint(s) SPW some paint wear (sometimes just a bit) BC broken crotch BT broken thumb LE loose elastic NO not original colour This key is fairly accurate although possibly confusing. I believe a figure can have paint wear, yet still be in excellent overall condition. Hence some figures are NM and also have SPW. Mint does mean mint, however. 1982 Short-Fuze $12 VG BT(L) SPW w/helmet, pack, mortar(NO) Breaker $13 VG BT(L) SPW w/helmet, pack, mic Rock & Roll $14 VG SPW w/helmet, gun 1983 Ace $10 NM w/helmet Airborne $8 NM w/helmet(NO), gun, pack Zap $10 VG BC w/helmet(NO), pack(NO), bazooka Tripwire $10 NM complete no wire on detector Torpedo $9 NM SPW complete Skystriker $15 VG w/3 missiles, one access panel, seats(2), chutes(2), one rudder(R)(or tailfin thing - whatever it's called), fuel tank glued on 1984 Copperhead $12 M more common one (I think) Duke $10 VG BC LE w/helmet, pack, gun, binoc Cutter $11 NM Scrap-Iron $4 G JL BT(R) PW w/launcher(NO)+missiles(NO) SkyHawk $8 M complete Whirlwind $6 NM one access panel 1985 Tollbooth $8 VG SPW JL Snow Serpent $10 NM SPW w/shoes(2), rocket+bipod, pack, AK Lamprey $10 M w/gun Barbecue $5 VG SPW LJ Snowcat $10 NM w/one ski missile, rack has broken mounts 4 missiles, no wiper 1986 Mainframe $5 NM w/console, hose, pack(NO) Sgt. Slaughter $5 NM SPW the one with the black shirt TerrorDrome $55 NM one gun panel has broken pin (can still rest in closed position) and missing "open" stand ie doesn't look good open w/gas bays, chairs, guns, jail door, Firebat NM w/4 of 6 missiles HAVOC $9 VG no rocket sled, one front gun broken, access panel Cross Country $8 NM Mindbender $7 VG SPW w/cape, gun, probe, hose, pack The Fridge $4 VG SPW JL Roadblock $5 NM w/85 Bazooka waist and legs, gun Lifeline $11 NM complete Hawk $8 VG w/helmet, gun Motor-Viper $8 M STUN $10 NM one access panel broken 1987 Gung-Ho $5 NM SPW w/sword(NO) Ice Viper $10 M w/helmet, sai(2) Psyche-Out $5 NM w/antennae Sea Slug $6 NM Raptor $6 NM SPW w/wings, falcon Chuckles $4 NM Mercer $4 NM SPW w/gun Techno-Viper $3 VG SPW Red Dog $4 NM WOLF $10 NM complete 1988 Roadpig $5 NM Ferret (figure) $8 M TF Dusty $5 NM TF Duke $4 NM BC TF Bazooka $6 NM w/helmet, pack (possibly not original) TF Roadblock $5 NM 1989 Backblast $3 NM broken missile-arm thing Alley Viper $4 NM w/visor, shield Python Conquest $18 M complete 1990 Sonic Viper $5 NM Sonic Lamprey $5 NM 1991 Big Ben $8 NM LE 1992 Heli-Viper $4 M w/gun 1993 Starfighter $4 M complete Sci-Fi $4 M complete Wild Bill $4 NM w/hat, gun, pack, knife CG Commander $3 M SB Roadblock $3 M NF Night Creeper$4 M BE w/sword Backblast $3 M Eel $4 M w/trident, flippers(2) Keel-Haul $3 M Frostbite $4 M w/mask, shotgun Nitro-Viper $10 M 1994 Sgt. Savage $4 M w/gun, helmet, bazooka, missile D-Day $4 M w/gun, helmet, bazooka, missile Field Marshall Blitzkrieg $8 M complete w/base Grizzly SS-1 $8 M complete 12" Combat Camo Duke $10 M complete 12" Combat Camo Roadblock $10 M complete 12" HOF R&R $15 M (tan shirt) complete Comix for trade All are in pretty good shape. Not mint, but okay. Damage is noted. G.I. Joe 7 worn cover 10 13 14 25 28 worn cover, big rip on inside (no pages missing) 30 34 worn and ripped cover 37 38 39 43 worn cover 44 48 50 51 95 97 105 109 YB 3 Need: 108, 151, 153, 155 Extreme Who cares? Transformers 30 Jonathan Krenz k010264@niagarac.on.ca www.geocities.com/area51/rampart/5608 www.geocities.com/area51/rampart/5608/sega.html --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.14 --------------- From: le_saint1@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 23:22:34 +0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I wish I'd known this a year ago when I had a friend living over there. But >if all there is is 1994 stuff. Is their anything good from that year? I'm >totally out of it past 1988. >Also are they packaged in U.S. packaging or do you they have some neato >Philopino designs? Are there any Chinese or Japanese carded stuff? >-John nope. no local designs, just the lil colouring book or the Pencil they throw in if you buy any Joe. Back then, there were a LOT of Japanese Joes. same volume ratio as the American versions. I bought a LOT of Japanese Joes bec they were cheaper. I still got all the catalogues in Japanese and plan to scan it and submit it. oh, and there are Canadian Wind up packs too. got most of them before they ran out a few months ago. cool. The Big Box of Joes Homecoming. heheheh darn, any more shipping ideas ? 1 cool way is via diplomatic pouches, just like what Scarlett did in Switzerland. hahahah oh gawd, a 10 year old toothbrush ??? *shudders at what could be growing on it after all these years* kidding :D Take care all Richard (still got the Sgt Slaughter Birthday candle) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.15 --------------- From: Zzarana@aol.com Subject: Re: Friday Chat! Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:41:22 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This week will be good EEJ Don't worry! Since I missed last week's, due to my broken computer, I have all this pent up emotion I need to get out! So just you wait, we will be crashing something together. :) I will see everyone there. Jenna --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.16 --------------- From: "DeVoe, Gary (DEVOEGW)" Subject: RE: Friday Chat! Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:16:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: Zzarana@aol.com [SMTP:Zzarana@aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 1998 12:41 PM To: gijoe@lists.best.com Subject: Re: Friday Chat! This week will be good EEJ Don't worry! Since I missed last week's, due to my broken computer, I have all this pent up emotion I need to get out! So just you wait, we will be crashing something together. -------------------------> Why do I have a feeling that my services will be required in a major way...I'll go stock up on lollipops now (good thing all the Halloween candy is stockpiled in the stores). -Triage --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.17 --------------- From: Zzarana@aol.com Subject: Re: Friday Chat! Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:40:20 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/9/98 1:38:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DEVOEGW@UCMAIL.UC.EDU writes: << -------------------------> Why do I have a feeling that my services will be required in a major way...I'll go stock up on lollipops now (good thing all the Halloween candy is stockpiled in the stores). -Triage >> What kind of services are you offering??? And can I have a lollipop?? ~Zz --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.18 --------------- From: Calvin Woo Subject: 1998 Joes Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:21:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810091741.KAA12464@lists1.best.com> I got my 98 Joes today in Vancouver BC. Yesterday they didn't even have it yet and this morning at 10:30, I managed to get some. I only managed to get one Cobra Infantry pack but I'm lucky I actually managed to get one because I got the last one! The Polar Assault was the one I couldn't get cause it was sold out. The lady beside me got the last one. She got one complete set. There were a lot of Navy Seal and Oktober Guards though. I'm gonna check out another Toys R Us later and hopefully get more Cobra Infantry and the Polar team. This is awesome though! Calvin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.19 --------------- From: Ed Dam Subject: 98 Joes Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 14:43:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, here is the skinny for us Canadians in the Southern Ontario region: As of Friday, October 09, 1998 The Upper Hamilton and St. Catharines Toys R Us stores Do NOT have the 98's :( The Mississauga TRU (by the QEW) DOES have them The Lawrence East and West Mall Toys R Us stores both HAVE them Other various TRU stores in the GTA I don't know one way or the other. Ah well, they are not everywhere, but at least they are here :) Ed -- http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/tripcock/45/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/minstrel.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/titanic.html "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house" Ed Dam damed@iaw.on.ca --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.20 --------------- From: SNARF5181@aol.com Subject: Re: 1998 Joes Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:35:54 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit so around when should they appear in the states (i actually look at a delay as a good thing since it gives me time to get a job and some cash so i can get a lot of infantry packs) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.21 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: Friday Chat! Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:46:26 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alright, here we go again...how the heck do I get to the chat...I need clear directions as I don't understand the previous ones Steeler (who wish he was Breaker or Mainframe about now) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.22 --------------- From: Steve Wagnon Subject: Adventures in Bizarro Toyland Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 15:39:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Everyone, I have a little tale to tell you all about a strange thing that happened today. Let me give you a little history first. About three weeks ago, Conor Malone (list mom) and I took one of our daily lunchtime "missions" and visited a collectibles/toy/comic store that we had never before visited. While I was looking around, mainly trying to see if I could locate any GI Joe stuff, I happened to look up and see a Cobra Terrordrome, in box no-less! I swear I even saw the sun light come through the ceiling to reveal the box in all its glory! Well . . . not really. Now, I have two things that are my "GI Joe Holy Grails", the Terrordrome and the USS Flagg. So seeing this Terrordrome, in box, was quite exciting. The problem was, while the box was in good shape, it had been opened, but it had been sealed back up to contain all the parts. The store was charging $250, which is a little steep. And that was my intial thinking: too much. I was laid up for a few days after that recovering from surgery, so I was able to think about it some more. I came to the conclusion that since I did want the item AND it was one of my holy grails, I was willing to pay for it, but only if it hadn't been put together AND if all parts were present. Ideal situation would have been still bagged. Sure I would have opened it and put it together (I don't keep stuff packaged) but I figured if I were paying that much, then I should at least have the fun of putting it together myself! So we went back today with the intention of having them open it, and if everything looked alright then I would buy it. Conditions of not buying it would have been, already put together, missing pieces, broken pieces, etc. But as long as it was apart or better yet, bagged, I would buy it. Not too much to ask. Geez, I actually would have even bought it if it had been put together, but then ONLY if all pieces were present. When I asked the guy about it, he brought it down. I could hear big plastic pieces rattling around and shifting when he moved it, so that was a good sign. But Conor and I were unprepared for what happened next. He opened the box and the first thing that registered was "That doesn't look round", then I noticed a piece that had a "99" on it and a very Naval look to it. Conor pulled one of the pieces out and then it sunk in. This box didn't contain what it should and what the store thought they were selling. We discovered that while the box was a Terrordrome box, it contained parts from the USS Flagg in it!!! Now that could have been an alright thing, even though I was prepared to purchase a Terrordrome, I could have made due with a Flagg! heheheh But with my luck, not only did this box not contain my Terrordrome but it contained a very incomplete Flagg. I am just glad that I looked at it before buying. Evidently the owners of the store were either trying to pull a scam, or more likely, they bought it as is and the person they bought it from scammed them. Because I don't think they had ever opened it and examined what they bought, they seemed as surprised as we did. Just thought some of you might find that interesting and can laugh at my double mocking and bad luck!! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Wagnon Yahoo! Inc. http://www.yahoo.com 3400 Central Expressway http://my.yahoo.com Suite 201 wagnon@yahoo-inc.com Santa Clara, CA 95051 -------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.23 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Friday Chat! Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:44:28 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Steeler (who wish he was Breaker or Mainframe about now) >> ...but not Dial-Tone. His voice actually sounds just like that old hold-your- nose-to-talk-like-an-operator gag. What a dork. His comm-pack thingy is cool, though. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.24 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Joe Heaven ? Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:02:18 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="" On 10/09/98 01:16:56 you wrote: > >I thought I'd share this lil idea :) >>Hi again, >> Bummer on that shipping dilema. >> Might allmost be worth it if a bunch of guys got together and had a big box >>sent over ( FedEx would not be so cost prohibitive on larger items vs. many >>smaller ones ). > >HMMMMMMmmmmmmmm.............. >> Ah,well ..... ( picture Al here , along with the rest of the list, I imagine - >>drooling all over.... ).. I *DO * know some Navy guys but not sure of any going >>to the Phillipines or anything. >> Do buy up as many of those as you can, maybe some day you can reap the profits >>on em or something ( hate to see them get 'lost' ). > >WHOA ! I'm not that rich....waaaaay too many :c( > >> AL / rocketeer > >>ps: food for thought ( if you'd be interested ) is to get some list members >>together and place a big ' order' with ya ( for a ' finder fee' of course >>..8-)... interested ? , or would the shipping be too much hassle ? > >HEY...now there's a Thought :) >Actually, I got a LOT of responses about this. >Some are even willing to put up a Collective Effort to Ship in a Big Box Full of Joes to the continental US. >WHat do you guys & gals think ? >would most of the list chip in and ship a big box over ? >A lot of items means the shipping cost would be spread out, right ? >If you guys got any working ideas (I'm fresh out) let me know if I can help out. >heheheh...shipping is a headache *pops an aspirin* :P > >btw, the MOC stuff available here also includes : >most of the Eco-Warriors, D.E.F., Shadow Warrior Ninja Force, & Star Brigade, some STreet Fighters, >MIB Vehicles (eco-striker, cobra invader, starfighter, cobra scorpion, Razor Blade, Manta Ray, Shark 9000) >basically '94 releases ;) > >and a few weird stuff (I plan to submit scans of these to yojoe.com): >Joe Walkie Talkies (early 80's GI Joe logo), locally-printed activity books, stick-ons, >unique mixed&matched figures sold in stores >(i.e. Blocker upper body& Firefly Version1 torso & legs, Blizzard version1in Flak Viper bubble&card) >the store staff must be experimenting...heheheh.... > >Who knows what else they got stashed in their warehouse. (I intend to find out in a few weeks) > >I hope you're not sick of my postings by now, though I rarely post. > >Take care all >;D > >richard > > Ok Joes. As you will notice, I was the one to propose this ... Anyone willing to head it up ?? If no interest, I would be willing to do so but am very busy with other things, etc. ( you know the drill ) so .... Let's liberate these Joes guys !!!! - rocketeer - --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.25 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Joe Heaven ? Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 19:56:24 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Let's liberate these Joes guys !!!! >> I think you have my support. I wouldn't mind having a Starfighter or two. Could someone tell me exactly what the idea is? --Somewhat Confused --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.26 --------------- From: Dawn Greider Subject: Re: Joe Heaven ? Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 21:01:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810092357.QAA20249@lists1.best.com> BADSCNAME@aol.com wrote: > > << Let's liberate these Joes guys !!!! >> > > I think you have my support. I wouldn't mind having a Starfighter or two. > Could someone tell me exactly what the idea is? > --Somewhat Confused Ditto here, what's the plan? I really want some Eco-Warriors in my collection and anything else basically. -Hurricane --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n703.27 --------------- From: WyvernDrag@aol.com Subject: Re: Joe Heaven ? Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:48:32 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll take one of each figure available. That's my way of saying I'm in! C-V --------------- END gijoe.v001.n703 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n704 -------------- 001 - Pawsha@aol.com - Re: 1998 Joes 002 - GITrekker@aol.com - Re: Volga vs. Daina 003 - Pawsha@aol.com - Volga/Daina's Filecard 004 - WyvernDrag@aol.com - Re: Volga vs. Daina 005 - BADSCNAME@aol.com - Re: Volga vs. Daina 006 - Ed Dam - Re: Joe Heaven ? 007 - EVILFACE74@aol.com - Re: Joe Heaven ? 008 - BADSCNAME@aol.com - Re: Joe Heaven ? 009 - klacoste@bigfoot.com (Kev - [Q] Stockpiling vipers... 010 - DrHarmoney@aol.com - The Action Hour 011 - "Timmer Auto" - Re: Let's liberate these Joes 027 - CUBSandOs@aol.com - Re: Let's liberate these Joes 028 - Ed Dam - KickAss 029 - JSMosby61@aol.com - Re: My day at a Toy Show 030 - JSMosby61@aol.com - Re: Let's liberate these Joes G.I. Joe 3 3/4" Mailing List Digest --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.1 --------------- From: Pawsha@aol.com Subject: Re: 1998 Joes Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 23:38:43 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-09 14:48:20 EDT, you write: > I got my 98 Joes today in Vancouver BC. Yesterday they didn't even have > it yet and this morning at 10:30, I managed to get some. I only managed > to get one Cobra Infantry pack but I'm lucky I actually managed to get one > because I got the last one! The Polar Assault was the one I couldn't get > cause it was sold out. The lady beside me got the last one. She got one > complete set. There were a lot of Navy Seal and Oktober Guards though. > I'm gonna check out another Toys R Us later and hopefully get more Cobra > Infantry and the Polar team. This is awesome though! Well, that's wierd. Canada gets the Real American Hero, yet America doesn't ;) I know, I know, America includes Canada too, but you know what I mean. I guess I'll check my TRU. Josh Scott --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.2 --------------- From: GITrekker@aol.com Subject: Re: Volga vs. Daina Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 23:55:06 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <> First of all -- you're welcome. Seriously, though, I can't take ALL the credit. Here's what happened, the whole story. I was asked in November to send photos of the customized Oktober Guard figures I had turned out, and which had appeared at the San Jose Convention, to Hasbro. I included Lt. Gorky, Schrage, Stormavik, and Daina, all characters which had been established in the comic. I also told them which I thought would be the easiest to make from existing parts. They had an Oktober Guard three-pack in mind, but only two existing figures, of course. In late December, the 30th to be precise, I received a prototype Daina via Airborne Express. It was a Lady Jaye body with a newly sculpted head! I was impressed. I called Hasbro to see how long I had to paint it. They wanted ti back by the 2nd. I told them I could probably send it ON the 2nd, but I'd need time. They said that was okay. December 31st, I cleaned out the local hobby shop of the paints I needed, and spent New Year's Eve painting Daina. Finished her on January 1st, photographed the hack out of her, wrapped her in bubble wrap, put her in a box, wrapped the box in bubble wrap, and stuffed the whole works in an Express Mail envelope. They were very pleased with the result. Then I was asked to prepare the file cards for the Oktober Guard team (I also handled the Cobra Infantry Set, the Navy Sea Team, and Vypra, whom I also named). Then we hit a glitch. The name "Daina" could NOT be used for the character's "toy" name. Somebody else -- Saban if you can believe it -- had snapped it up for reasons unknown (a Russian Power Ranger, maybe!?). So I had to think of a name for a Russian female sniper that had never been known as anything except Daina. After agonizing over this one for the better part of a day, going through a dictionary, a couple of military reference books, and a Berlitz book on Russian, I finally turned to geographic references. Volga is one of the largest rivers in the USSR as it once was. The name sounded both Russian and female to my ears, and it passed legal inspection at Hasbro. Fortunately, those legal restraints WEREN'T as tight on FILE names, so we WERE able to slip "Daina" in THERE and get away with it, since it didn't have to be trademarked. However, they did modify the character's appearance. As I painted her, she had blonde hair and somewhat different camouflage pattern. Why this was done, I don't know. I can't imagine Saban trademarked a blonde Russian sniper. Personally, I think it's a bit of a shame, since there was never a blonde female anywhere in the G.I.Joe figure line, unless you want to count Sonya Blade from Mortal Kombat. But I can live with it. And there, dear readers, is the story of how Volga came to be in the Oktober Guard three-pack! --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.3 --------------- From: Pawsha@aol.com Subject: Volga/Daina's Filecard Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 23:58:11 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I looked at it, and it was kinda cool to actually see that she finally was a figure and had a filecard. Since we all know it's Daina ;) Also, did anyone notice they spelled Czechoslovakia wrong? They put in "i" where the "L" is. Josh --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.4 --------------- From: WyvernDrag@aol.com Subject: Re: Volga vs. Daina Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:10:14 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you have idea why Hasbro decided not to have pictures on the filecards? Was it because they didn't want to create an original piece of artwork for Volga, Vypra, and Thunderwing? C-V --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.5 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Volga vs. Daina Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:40:34 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Do you have idea why Hasbro decided not to have pictures on the filecards? Was it because they didn't want to create an original piece of artwork for Volga, Vypra, and Thunderwing? C-V >> I would say so. It all comes down to the almighty $$$$. --Flat Broke --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.6 --------------- From: Ed Dam Subject: Re: Joe Heaven ? Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:40:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810092357.QAA20249@lists1.best.com> <199810100107.SAA11071@lists1.best.com> I would definitly contribute to liberating these Joes!! LET'S DO IT! Ed Dawn Greider wrote: > BADSCNAME@aol.com wrote: > > > > << Let's liberate these Joes guys !!!! >> > > > > I think you have my support. I wouldn't mind having a Starfighter or two. > > Could someone tell me exactly what the idea is? > > --Somewhat Confused > > Ditto here, what's the plan? I really want some Eco-Warriors in my > collection and anything else basically. > -Hurricane -- http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/tripcock/45/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/minstrel.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/titanic.html "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house" Ed Dam damed@iaw.on.ca --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.7 --------------- From: EVILFACE74@aol.com Subject: Re: Joe Heaven ? Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 01:13:17 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need one of the eco-strikers so count me in. EVILFACE --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.8 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Joe Heaven ? Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 02:14:15 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << I need one of the eco-strikers so count me in. EVILFACE >> Eco-striker? ::gag:: I've seen cat barf prettier than that POS! I loaded the '92 catalog on YOJOE.com. Great goodooly goose fart! I saw that Cobra Earthquake...now i'll have nightmares all night D= Hummm...EVILFACE. Are you sayin' you're the evil twin brother of that guy from A-Team? --EVILNADS --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.9 --------------- From: klacoste@bigfoot.com (Kevin LaCoste) Subject: [Q] Stockpiling vipers... Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:39:48 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Done. The pics are up at . >Big thanks to Jody for scanning them in and getting me the images so >quickly. > >I can't believe you only bought one Viper pack. :) Trust me, there's >going to be a San Diego shortage of those Viper packs when I'm done. :) > Is anyone else out there considering picking up multiple packs of the polar group? Besides collecting an army of vipers, an army of snow serpents and night creepers would be pretty cool too. Of course then you end up with an abundance of Fireflys. I'm also wondering, is this years release a TRU exclusive again? Has anyone seen any vehicles in stores yet? Do they have TRU in Japan? Time to start making some arrangments for the 98 joes... Kevin LaCoste klacoste@bigfoot.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.10 --------------- From: DrHarmoney@aol.com Subject: The Action Hour Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 04:21:37 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The Action Hour a fresh look at Action Figures and GiJoe. Please have a look and tell me what you think. Guaranteed at least a giggle. Take a look at… www.geocities.com/Area51/Stargate/5819 Take Care -Ray --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.11 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: [Q] Stockpiling vipers... Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 12:56:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Although I will be getting as many Vipers as possible (I'm already negotiating with a few Canadian friends) I will probably only get one polar pack. Reasons : I NEVER liked Snow Serpent v2. The original was far better. Plus,you gotta admit,if they'd used different color schemes,this pack could (and should) be named the assasin pack or the ninja pack (I know Firefly isn't technically a ninja,but he looks the part,especially now he's white,he resembles Storm Shadow even more then his original version.). Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.12 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: [Q] Stockpiling vipers... Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 07:46:44 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-10 02:49:35 EDT, you write: << Is anyone else out there considering picking up multiple packs of the polar group? Besides collecting an army of vipers, an army of snow serpents and night creepers would be pretty cool too. Of course then you end up with an abundance of Fireflys. >> Yup, but it leaves you plenty of practice for making a custom Tigerforce Sabretooth, without the cost of vintage Firefly's! --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.13 --------------- From: le_saint1@hotmail.com Subject: RE: Let's liberate these Joes Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:46:52 +0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > << Let's liberate these Joes guys !!!! >> > I think you have my support. I wouldn't mind having a Starfighter or two. > Could someone tell me exactly what the idea is? > --Somewhat Confused > Ditto here, what's the plan? I really want some Eco-Warriors in my >collection and anything else basically. >-Hurricane Possible solutions: Plan A : The expensive Plan, get all the stuff on a fedex 10kg box and ship 'em to a distribution point somewhere in the US. Bad Side: fedex costs $90 *OUCH* Good Side: It'll be there in 2 days. the 90 bucks would probably split between all the items in the box. Plan B : The Long Route Plan, fedex the stuff in a 10kg or 25kg box to the nearest country with a dependable postal system (e.g. Australia, or nearer ) and send it thru normal shipping Bad Side: finding a kind trustworthy soul to receive it and re-ship it. still a little expensive bec of fedex. Good Side: cheaper (I think) due to the shorter distance. OR Find someone travelling to such a country and ask the poor kind trustworthy soul to ship it from there. Bad Side: Finding that poor kind trustworthy soul :) Good Side: no more fedex....CHEAPER (duuuh...) heheheh other plans include: someone coming over, diplomatic pouches, air force C-130's, cia connections, etc. any more ideas ? :( >I'll take one of each figure available. That's my way of saying I'm in! >C-V WOW....that's a lot. I've asked the store supervisor if I could buy direct from their warehouse and I'm just waiting for their reply. *can hardly wait* oh and, they also got a lot of mib 30th anniv. 3 3/4" Soldier, MArine, Sailor, Pilot in individual boxes 3 moc lunartix aliens (moe, larry & curly..hahah), 12" anniv soldier & sailor, 12" Flint. eco warriors= flint & cesspool available. .. barbecue, toxo-& sludge-vipers, toxo-zombie, ozone have run out but I'm waiting for their stocks to be replenished. They usually get re-stocked. which is why I hope to buy direct from their warehouse ;) Good Luck, Richard ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ " we had thought COBRA had us in the stinking dungeon for good-- So we didn't know what was going on when we heard that chopper comin' in and all the heavy hardware going off like like the 4th of July. Then somebody kicked down the door to our cell and when the smoke cleared, there was Flint with that lop-sided grin sayin' ` C'mon boys, we're going home...'." -(from Flint's filecard) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.14 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: Joe Heaven ? Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 08:51:10 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Someone remind me what is available again.....that would influence my decision and financial interest Steeler (checking wallet and trying to remember when payday is) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.15 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: Re: Let's liberate these Joes Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 08:59:04 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/10/98 8:55:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, le_saint1@hotmail.com writes: > > << Let's liberate these Joes guys !!!! >> > > > I think you have my support. I wouldn't mind having a Starfighter or two. > > Could someone tell me exactly what the idea is? > > --Somewhat Confused > > > Ditto here, what's the plan? I really want some Eco-Warriors in my > >collection and anything else basically. > >-Hurricane > > Possible solutions: > Plan A : The expensive Plan, get all the stuff on a fedex 10kg box and ship ' > em to a distribution point > somewhere in the US. > Bad Side: fedex costs $90 *OUCH* Good Side: It'll be there > in 2 days. > the 90 bucks would probably split between all the items in the > box. > > Plan B : The Long Route Plan, fedex the stuff in a 10kg or 25kg box to the > nearest country with a > dependable postal system (e.g. Australia, or nearer ) and send > it thru normal shipping > Bad Side: finding a kind trustworthy soul to receive it and re- > ship it. still a little expensive bec of fedex. > Good Side: cheaper (I think) due to the shorter distance. > > OR Find someone travelling to such a country and ask the poor kind > trustworthy soul to ship it from there. > Bad Side: Finding that poor kind trustworthy soul :) > Good Side: no more fedex....CHEAPER (duuuh...) heheheh > > other plans include: someone coming over, diplomatic pouches, air force C- > 130's, cia connections, etc. > > any more ideas ? > :( > > >I'll take one of each figure available. That's my way of saying I'm in! > >C-V > > WOW....that's a lot. > I've asked the store supervisor if I could buy direct from their warehouse > and I'm just waiting for their reply. > *can hardly wait* > > oh and, they also got a lot of mib 30th anniv. 3 3/4" Soldier, MArine, > Sailor, Pilot in individual boxes > 3 moc lunartix aliens (moe, larry & curly..hahah), 12" anniv soldier & > sailor, 12" Flint. > eco warriors= flint & cesspool available. > .. barbecue, toxo-& sludge-vipers, toxo-zombie, ozone have run out but I'm > waiting for their stocks > to be replenished. They usually get re-stocked. > which is why I hope to buy direct from their warehouse ;) > > Good Luck, > Richard > Add me to the list... I dont really need to much stuff, but once we get a list mof what is available I am sure Ill need a few things.... Richard, what about the Listen and Fun Tripwire? no luck? Matt --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.16 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: Let's liberate these Joes Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 03:34:07 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810101249.FAA23813@lists1.best.com> \ > Plan B : The Long Route Plan, fedex the stuff in a 10kg or 25kg box to the nearest country with a > dependable postal system (e.g. Australia, or nearer ) and send it thru normal shipping > Bad Side: finding a kind trustworthy soul to receive it and re-ship it. still a little expensive bec of fedex. \ I live in Malaysia, which is far closer than Australia, I'll be willing to handle it next month as I'm short of cash this month to handle postage. I've traded with Tim, Ed Dam and Corey Stinson on the list and am working a trade with rocketeer. I can reship via registered airmail (to ensure you get the items) The postage rate will vary but I will give the exact amount plus the exact cost of packaging, no handling charges. Let me know if you guys want me to handle this but I can only do so next month. Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.17 --------------- From: Scott Guthrie Subject: Re: Let's liberate these Joes Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 09:31:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810101301.GAA26902@lists1.best.com> I missed the original message, but sounds like something I could get in on. Tech Mage >> WOW....that's a lot. >> I've asked the store supervisor if I could buy direct from their warehouse >> and I'm just waiting for their reply. >> *can hardly wait* >> >> oh and, they also got a lot of mib 30th anniv. 3 3/4" Soldier, MArine, >> Sailor, Pilot in individual boxes >> 3 moc lunartix aliens (moe, larry & curly..hahah), 12" anniv soldier & >> sailor, 12" Flint. >> eco warriors= flint & cesspool available. >> .. barbecue, toxo-& sludge-vipers, toxo-zombie, ozone have run out but I'm >> waiting for their stocks >> to be replenished. They usually get re-stocked. >> which is why I hope to buy direct from their warehouse ;) >> >> Good Luck, >> Richard --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.18 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: Let's liberate these Joes Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 03:53:31 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810101249.FAA23813@lists1.best.com> <199810101325.GAA02879@lists1.best.com> Hi everyone, I've actually got a better idea, next month I can spare about $100 U.S to send to Richard and he can use this to buy the joes first then Richard ships them to me and I will take payment for the items plus postage cost according to individual orders. I'm suggesting this in case anyone is afraid I'll disappear once the stuff is sent to me. I will post stuff to one person at a time so that you all don't have to worry about me disspearing with money sent to me. As soon as a person recives his items, he posts on the list and the next person will deal with me (we have to work a roster out) My postage is pretty reliable if I send by registered mail. Let me know what you all think. Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.19 --------------- From: Dawn Greider Subject: G.I.J.L.F. (GI Joe Liberation Front) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 11:24:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tell me how much it'll cost me to get an Eco-Force Flint and any singular Eco-Force vehicle and I'm in. -Hurricane (freedom fighter) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.20 --------------- From: Calvin Woo Subject: Re: Let's liberate these Joes Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 09:31:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810101345.GAA07945@lists1.best.com> I'm in depending on what's available. And Dzirhan, that's a good idea. I could trust you since you've dealt with Corey and some others. Let us know what's gonna be happening. Thanks Calvin On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Dzirhan Mahadzir wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I've actually got a better idea, next month I can spare about $100 U.S > to send to Richard and he can use this to buy the joes first then > Richard ships them to me and I will take payment for the items plus > postage cost according to individual orders. I'm suggesting this in case > anyone is afraid I'll disappear once the stuff is sent to me. I will > post stuff to one person at a time so that you all don't have to worry > about me disspearing with money sent to me. As soon as a person recives > his items, he posts on the list and the next person will deal with me > (we have to work a roster out) My postage is pretty reliable if I send > by registered mail. Let me know what you all think. > > Dzirhan > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.21 --------------- From: GIJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: G.I.J.L.F. (GI Joe Liberation Front) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 12:38:23 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I like this idea as well. The mention of the Eco-Striker and Listen'N Fun Tripwire has me in. JOhn M. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.22 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: G.I.J.L.F. (GI Joe Liberation Front) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 19:04:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If we're gonna go with the plan to send the stuff to Malaysia first ( to Dzirhan)I'm definately in! If there's any DEF stuff available,I'd like those (especially Headhunters) And some 94 stuff. Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.23 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: My day at a Toy Show Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 13:21:20 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Went to a toy show in Tampa today, rather small at about 20 - 30 dealers... Maybe one Beanie Table ( what a relief ).... Anyway, their was a rather low amount of Wrestling figures and Joes ( what I search for )... Anyway, out of the three tables wiht Joes I found one with a huge box of figs for $3, here is what I got Viper ( best condition I have ever seen a viper in ) TF Skystriker ( noticed later had a broken crotch, ugh, anyone have an extra?) Eels ( in great condition, whats again my lack of really taking a look at the figures, had a broken airhose connector on his face, anyone have an Eels head? ) Lift Ticket Slaughter's Marauders Slaughter Now the Good stuff: night Force Falcon Straight Arm Rock n Roll Straight Arm Short Fuse Straight Arm Hawk Also, went to a friends table, noticed he had the CAT tank I have been wanting from him for sale, it was marked $5 but he sold it to me for $30!!! its perfect with little gun and it does work... Also found one wrestling figure table and picked up an Remco AWA Hawk of LOD for $5... Overall spent $60, but felt my money was spent well... anyone else have luck today? Matt - a happy Joe collector --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.24 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: Re: G.I.J.L.F. (GI Joe Liberation Front) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 13:07:32 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/10/98 12:54:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, GIJoe@aol.com writes: > I like this idea as well. The mention of the Eco-Striker and Listen'N Fun > Tripwire has me in. > > JOhn M. > Question, what will happen with the higher demand stuff... I am very interested in a Listen and Fun Tripwire, mostly becuase I do not collect much post 88 and love the Listen and Fun figure... What happens if there are only 5 of these? Matt --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.25 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Let's liberate these Joes Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 14:07:38 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/10/98 6:52:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, anasira@pc.jaring.my writes: << Hi everyone, I've actually got a better idea, next month I can spare about $100 U.S to send to Richard and he can use this to buy the joes first then Richard ships them to me and I will take payment for the items plus postage cost according to individual orders. I'm suggesting this in case anyone is afraid I'll disappear once the stuff is sent to me. I will post stuff to one person at a time so that you all don't have to worry about me disspearing with money sent to me. As soon as a person recives his items, he posts on the list and the next person will deal with me (we have to work a roster out) My postage is pretty reliable if I send by registered mail. Let me know what you all think. Dzirhan >> Well this sounds goods to me. But before this gets any farther, i think we supporters need a nice detailed LIST of what is available. Prices (in American, Canadian, ect.) would be helpful. I'm not griping, just stating guidlines =) If those extrimely rare mutated monster guys from like '93 (or so) are cheap, we can make a killing in the collector's market! --Wishful Thinking --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.26 --------------- From: Ed Dam Subject: Re: Let's liberate these Joes Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 14:23:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810101249.FAA23813@lists1.best.com> <199810101325.GAA02879@lists1.best.com> <199810101345.GAA07945@lists1.best.com> I like Dzirhan's idea, I think it would be the best and cheapest route for us all. Not to worry, for those in doubt, I will personally vouch for him, he is a good guy that can be trusted. Ed Dzirhan Mahadzir wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I've actually got a better idea, next month I can spare about $100 U.S > to send to Richard and he can use this to buy the joes first then > Richard ships them to me and I will take payment for the items plus > postage cost according to individual orders. I'm suggesting this in case > anyone is afraid I'll disappear once the stuff is sent to me. I will > post stuff to one person at a time so that you all don't have to worry > about me disspearing with money sent to me. As soon as a person recives > his items, he posts on the list and the next person will deal with me > (we have to work a roster out) My postage is pretty reliable if I send > by registered mail. Let me know what you all think. > > Dzirhan -- http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/tripcock/45/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/minstrel.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/titanic.html "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house" Ed Dam damed@iaw.on.ca --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.27 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: Re: Let's liberate these Joes Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 14:57:23 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/10/98 2:36:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BADSCNAME@aol.com writes: > Well this sounds goods to me. But before this gets any farther, i think we > supporters need a nice detailed LIST of what is available. Prices (in > American, Canadian, ect.) would be helpful. I'm not griping, just stating > guidlines =) Yes, this is needed, so we can give a list of what to buy... If those extrimely rare mutated monster guys from like '93 (or > so) are cheap, we can make a killing in the collector's market! who? what? > > --Wishful Thinking --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.28 --------------- From: Ed Dam Subject: KickAss Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 14:49:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I got them!! Well, 3 of the 4 packs, anyway, all 3 TRU I went to were sold out of the Polar Force pack. You want to talk improvement over the 97's?? I would have to say that the only way to make them better now is to have single carded new figures! I LOVE the Cobra Infantry pack, luckily I got the last one at the store, and I tell you, I am going to get at least 2 or 3 more of these because I want a whole ARMY of these figures!!! The paint detail is superb, and yes, they have painted the shoulder rivets again, and so far as I can tell, the plastic quality has been MUCH improved. The Navy Assault Unit I was never TOO excited about to begin with, but I must admit, these figures are pretty cool. the only complaint I have with this pack is that there is only 1 set of flippers for 3 figures :( The Oktober guard 3-pack is another cool one. As much as Volga is cool, I would have to say my favorite is Col. Brekhov, because the shade of grey used looks so cool on him. As soon as I can get the scans up on the web, you can see 4 yourselves ... YOJOE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ed -- http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/tripcock/45/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/minstrel.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/titanic.html "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house" Ed Dam damed@iaw.on.ca --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.29 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: My day at a Toy Show Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:05:01 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To say that I'm envious is an understatement --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n704.30 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: Let's liberate these Joes Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:10:15 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From the partial list I've seen, I would be interested in the 3 3/4 30th Anniversary Sailor and pilot, any of the 30th 12", the 12" Flint, the Tripwire, and depending on what else is out there...... Steeler --------------- END gijoe.v001.n704 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n705 -------------- 001 - WyvernDrag@aol.com - Re: Let's liberate these Joes 002 - EVILFACE74@aol.com - Re: Joe Heaven ? 003 - Rod Pellegrini - 98 joes 015 - Calvin Woo > Eco-striker? ::gag:: I've seen cat barf prettier than that POS! I loaded the '92 catalog on YOJOE.com. Great goodooly goose fart! I saw that Cobra Earthquake...now i'll have nightmares all night D= Hummm...EVILFACE. Are you sayin' you're the evil twin brother of that guy from A-Team? --EVILNADS >> Is there a problem with me wanting another Eco-Striker??? I use them to customize. Your entitled to your opinion, but don't jump on someone for wanting something you don't. I hope you do end up with nightmares.....evil ones. EVILFACE "If your on my path....you better look dead" --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.3 --------------- From: Rod Pellegrini Subject: Firefly Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 14:32:21 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Tim, Firefly WAS a ninja (check the later issues of the comic). He was the Faceless master in the Arashikage clan, although he was truly a spy of the Koga clan, a rival clan of the Arashikage. He had inflitrated the Arashikage to kill Snake Eyes under contract from Cobra Commander. Only when CC got tired of waiting did he send in Zartan to do the job. Since he was really a Koga Clan member, Firefly's skills aren't as good as any of the Arashikage masters (like SS and SE). His training wasn't as good. Rockhammer (ninja fan extraordinaire) KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // "ROCK CHALK JAYHAWKS" KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU ////////////////////////////////////////// KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Rod A. Pellegrini KKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Jayhawks rule!!!!! KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // rodpelle@falcon.cc.ukans.edu KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // Live long and prosper KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // May the force be with you --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.4 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: Re: Let's liberate these Joes Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:42:46 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/10/98 3:26:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JSMosby61@aol.com writes: > 12" Flint was this released in the US? what is this fig? Matt --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.5 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Joe Heaven ? Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:48:52 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Is there a problem with me wanting another Eco-Striker??? I use them to customize. Your entitled to your opinion, but don't jump on someone for wanting something you don't. I hope you do end up with nightmares.....evil ones. EVILFACE "If your on my path....you better look dead" >> oh geez, i'm sorry! I wasn't trying to make fun of ya or nothing. I just wanted to state my opinion about those strikers, with a fair comedic flair. I applaud your customization attempts and wish you the best of luck and hope ya have a good time working on them! I wasn't trying to jump on you! Again, i'm sorry. --Idiotic Fool --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.6 --------------- From: Rod Pellegrini Subject: Re: Joe Heaven! Let's liberate those joes! Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 14:49:24 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810101911.MAA17609@lists1.best.com> On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 gijoe-errors@lists.best.com wrote: > From: Ed Dam > > I would definitly contribute to liberating these Joes!! LET'S DO IT! > > Ed > So will I!!!!!!! Count me in folks, I'm interested in almost everything mentioned thus far (especially the Listen n'fun Tripwire and others) > Subject: RE: Let's liberate these Joes > Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:46:52 +0800 (PST) > > > Ditto here, what's the plan? I really want some Eco-Warriors in my > >collection and anything else basically. > >-Hurricane I'm with Hurricane here. I could use some eco-warriors (Flint and BBQ come to mind). > Possible solutions: > Plan A : The expensive Plan, get all the stuff on a fedex 10kg box and ship 'em to a distribution point > somewhere in the US. > Bad Side: fedex costs $90 *OUCH* Good Side: It'll be there in 2 days. > the 90 bucks would probably split between all the items in the box. > Question: Is it 90 bucks flat rate? i.e. as much as you can fit in the box? If so, how big is the box? This may turn out to be cheaper than regular mail if the amount of stuff is as large as I think it'll be. > Plan B : The Long Route Plan, fedex the stuff in a 10kg or 25kg box to the nearest country with a > dependable postal system (e.g. Australia, or nearer ) and send it thru normal shipping > Bad Side: finding a kind trustworthy soul to receive it and re-ship it. still a little expensive bec of fedex. > Good Side: cheaper (I think) due to the shorter distance. > > OR Find someone travelling to such a country and ask the poor kind trustworthy soul to ship it from there. > Bad Side: Finding that poor kind trustworthy soul :) > Good Side: no more fedex....CHEAPER (duuuh...) heheheh This could work too. > WOW....that's a lot. > I've asked the store supervisor if I could buy direct from their warehouse and I'm just waiting for their reply. > *can hardly wait* I hear that! It would be soooooo cool if we could buy the whole warehouse! Joe collectors unite!!!!! We could set up a distribution network and all... maybe I'm just dreaming... > oh and, they also got a lot of mib 30th anniv. 3 3/4" Soldier, MArine, Sailor, Pilot in individual boxes > 3 moc lunartix aliens (moe, larry & curly..hahah), 12" anniv soldier & sailor, 12" Flint. > eco warriors= flint & cesspool available. I'm in for the aliens!!!!! Leave the aliens to me!!!!!!! Please???! > .. barbecue, toxo-& sludge-vipers, toxo-zombie, ozone have run out but I'm waiting for their stocks > to be replenished. They usually get re-stocked. > which is why I hope to buy direct from their warehouse ;) > > Good Luck, > Richard > Thanks, Richard! We all appreciate it and are terribly excited about it! Rockhammer KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // "ROCK CHALK JAYHAWKS" KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU ////////////////////////////////////////// KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Rod A. Pellegrini KKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Jayhawks rule!!!!! KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // rodpelle@falcon.cc.ukans.edu KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // Live long and prosper KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // May the force be with you --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.7 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: [Q] Stockpiling vipers... Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 12:52:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:56 PM 10/10/98 +0200, you wrote: >Although I will be getting as many Vipers I hope you hoarders are going to leave some for those of us who would only like one! I'd hate to have to do that POTF2 store hopping busniess with Gi Joe >(I know Firefly isn't technically a ninja,but he >looks the part,especially now he's white,he >resembles Storm Shadow even more then his >original version.) Actually towards the end of the comic book's run it turns out that Firefly is a ninja master with a relationship to Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes. I won't spoil anymore. Find out what happens next in Marvel comics! -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.8 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Let's liberate these Joes Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:53:05 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << If those extrimely rare mutated monster guys from like '93 (or > so) are cheap, we can make a killing in the collector's market! who? what? >> You know, those Mega Monters. Two of them just sold on eBay for over $200. I thought someone mentioned them as a part of are liberation front. I could be wrong. Um, little help here, anyone...? --Idiotic Fool --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.9 --------------- From: WyvernDrag@aol.com Subject: Re: Let's liberate these Joes Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:04:58 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Those weren't Mega Monsters that were on eBay. Those were Manimals- Warwolf and Zigzag, to be exact. I think the "mutated monsters" that he was referring to were the Lunartix Aliens. C-V --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.10 --------------- From: GIJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Let's liberate these... Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:04:05 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 12" Flint is more appropriatly called Falcon. This is where Flint is listed as Green Beret and the uniform is that of super sonic fighter Falcon. He was part of the last series of Hall of Fame figures with Rock N Roll and Major Bludd. John M. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.11 --------------- From: GIJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Let's liberate these... Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:05:48 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mega Monsters or Manimals? Mega Monsters are only $5 carded each for the Monstro VIper and Bio Viper. The manimals are the ones that are selling for huge amounts on ebay.... Manimals were never released to the market, that's why they are so expensive. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.12 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: Let's liberate these Joes Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:07:16 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HOF Figure --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.13 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Let's liberate these Joes Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:26:48 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-10 16:23:00 EDT, you write: << Those weren't Mega Monsters that were on eBay. Those were Manimals- Warwolf and Zigzag, to be exact. I think the "mutated monsters" that he was referring to were the Lunartix Aliens. >> Too right! Mega Monsters were 5" enemies for the Mega-Marines, The Lunartix (which I have, and they look 100 times better than the mega- Monsters, but much more so worse than the Manimals-- I paid 10 bucks each, mint carded in 1995, dunno how much they go for now) The manimals were cnacelled, hence the price tag. Damn, I'd really like to grab some more of those Lunartix... Straight-Edge.. muddy minded thinking about all the Joes up for grabs, and all the empty space in his wallet... I WANT ME SOME JOES!! :_( --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.14 --------------- From: Ed Dam Subject: 98 joes Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:19:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I got my new joes scanned in...carded, loose as a 3-shot, and singly. I tried to do it so that you can see as much detail as possible on the figures. Check it out at http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html 98 Joes ROCK!!!!! Ed -- http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/tripcock/45/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/minstrel.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/titanic.html "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house" Ed Dam damed@iaw.on.ca --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.15 --------------- From: Calvin Woo Subject: Re: KickAss Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 14:02:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810101903.MAA14340@lists1.best.com> That was the exact same situation with me. Maybe the Cobras were short packed. They were sold out of the polar force when I went and I got the last Viper pack. Calvin On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Ed Dam wrote: > I got them!! Well, 3 of the 4 packs, anyway, all 3 TRU I went to were > sold out of the Polar Force pack. > You want to talk improvement over the 97's?? I would have to say that > the only way to make them better now is to have single carded new > figures! I LOVE the Cobra Infantry pack, luckily I got the last one at > the store, and I tell you, I am going to get at least 2 or 3 more of > these because I want a whole ARMY of these figures!!! The paint detail > is superb, and yes, they have painted the shoulder rivets again, and so > far as I can tell, the plastic quality has been MUCH improved. > The Navy Assault Unit I was never TOO excited about to begin with, > but I must admit, these figures are pretty cool. the only complaint I > have with this pack is that there is only 1 set of flippers for 3 > figures :( > The Oktober guard 3-pack is another cool one. As much as Volga is > cool, I would have to say my favorite is Col. Brekhov, because the shade > of grey used looks so cool on him. > As soon as I can get the scans up on the web, you can see 4 > yourselves ... > > YOJOE!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Ed > > -- > http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/tripcock/45/ > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/ > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/minstrel.html > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/titanic.html > > > > "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house" > > Ed Dam damed@iaw.on.ca > > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.16 --------------- From: SNARF5181@aol.com Subject: Re: [Q] Stockpiling vipers... Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 17:09:49 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/10/98 7:07:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sky15010@skynet.be writes: << Although I will be getting as many Vipers as possible (I'm already negotiating with a few Canadian friends) I will probably only get one polar pack. Reasons : I NEVER liked Snow Serpent v2. The original was far better. Plus,you gotta admit,if they'd used different color schemes,this pack could (and should) be named the assasin pack or the ninja pack (I know Firefly isn't technically a ninja,but he looks the part,especially now he's white,he resembles Storm Shadow even more then his original version.). Tim >> well i have the green version of firefly from 1992? and regardless of whether or not neon green is a realistic color for a military fig, I've always liked that version so the 98 one will simply be a viper ---Snarf --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.17 --------------- From: Dawn Greider Subject: Star Wars 2-packs Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 18:50:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, This is a little off-topic but I know there are a few SW collector's on the list. I can get the Rebo Band 2-packs for retail price for anybody who wants one (or two, or three...). If you pay for the figure (about $12.75 with tax) and the shipping ($3 US, $4 Canada, $? foreign) I'll get you either Sy Snootles/Joh Yowza or Barquin D'an/Droopy McCool 2-packs. Contact me privately if you are interested. -Hurricane (helping you help yourself) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.18 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: Firefly Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 01:44:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I didn't know that,I knew that firefly WAS sent to kill Snake-eyes,but I didn't know he was a ninja. Anyway,all the more reason the Polar Pack SHOULD have been the ninja pack Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.19 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Night Force Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 19:53:55 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Could someone tell me which vehicles were repainted for the Night Force? The vehicles were renamed, so i can't tell what's what in Toyfare's price list. Night Blaster= Night Boomer= Night Raider= Night Ray= Night Scrambler= Night Shade= Night Storm= Night Striker=Sky Striker(of course) ThanX! --Night Droppings --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.20 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: Re: Night Force Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:06:56 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Someone please correct me if I am wrong, these are off the top of my head In a message dated 10/10/98 8:01:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BADSCNAME@aol.com writes: > Night Blaster= Maggot > Night Boomer= Skystriker > Night Raider= Triple T > Night Ray= Hydrofoil > Night Scrambler= APC > Night Shade= Sharc > Night Storm= Persuader > Night Striker= I believe this is the Hovercraft Matt --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.21 --------------- From: GIJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: Night Force Answers Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:10:25 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First off, the Night Striker is the WHALE, the NIght Boomer is the Skystriker. In a message dated 10/10/98, 20:01:35 PM, gijoe@lists.best.com writes: < Subject: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 09:23:53 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810101859.LAA12452@lists1.best.com> Hi everyone, Just to add on to my earlier postings, the $100 I will send to Richard does not include the Fedex costs which I will send also. This will be worked into individual payments and divided according to the number of people involved in this. The other thing is $100 might not go far in obtaining the Joes so I suggest that to maximise things and to make sure that everyone gets a chance of getting what they want, we start with getting figures only first in November and vehicles later in December, if anyone wants, I can hold the figs for posting with vehicles later if you want to save on postage. If Richard can come up with a list of whatever figures is available there and the prices for each item, then we all have an idea of what available. At the start of November I will post to the list calling for orders to be posted on the list and it will be dealt with on a first come first served basis and to make things fair for everyone the maximum total for each order will be $15 (if you have more the excess will go to December's arrangements), that way at least 7 people can get their items. Those who don't get their chance in November will be put immediately on the December list. My purchases will be seperate from the $100 advance I'm putting up. I post the list of required items to Richard and send the money and he sends them to me and as earlier proposed I sort out the individual orders for postage. I will have to warn everyone that in terms of payment to me there will be extra charges but only for the packaging, the fedex postage and any bank fees for banking in postal or money orders sent to me, I will not be making any profit off this. I will probably be able to do this for as long as everyone on the list wants it to go. What do you all think and Richard, is this arrangement o.k with you? Thanks for the vote of confidence Ed. I hope that we can all get this thing going in November. Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.24 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: Re: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:28:08 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/10/98 9:25:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, anasira@pc.jaring.my writes: > > Hi everyone, > > Just to add on to my earlier postings, the $100 I will send to Richard > does not include the Fedex costs which I will send also. This will be > worked into individual payments and divided according to the number of > people involved in this. The other thing is $100 might not go far in > obtaining the Joes so I suggest that to maximise things and to make sure > that everyone gets a chance of getting what they want, we start with > getting figures only first in November and vehicles later in December, > if anyone wants, I can hold the figs for posting with vehicles later if > you want to save on postage. If Richard can come up with a list of > whatever figures is available there and the prices for each item, then > we all have an idea of what available. At the start of November I will > post to the list calling for orders to be posted on the list and it will > be dealt with on a first come first served basis and to make things fair > for everyone the maximum total for each order will be $15 (if you have > more the excess will go to December's arrangements), that way at least > 7 people can get their items. Those who don't get their chance in > November will be put immediately on the December list. My purchases will > be seperate from the $100 advance I'm putting up. I post the list of > required items to Richard and send the money and he sends them to me and > as earlier proposed I sort out the individual orders for postage. I will > have to warn everyone that in terms of payment to me there will be extra > charges but only for the packaging, the fedex postage and any bank fees > for banking in postal or money orders sent to me, I will not be making > any profit off this. I will probably be able to do this for as long as > everyone on the list wants it to go. What do you all think and Richard, > is this arrangement o.k with you? Thanks for the vote of confidence Ed. > I hope that we can all get this thing going in November. > > Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.25 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: Re: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:33:29 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry this was sent twice, disregard the last one it was just a copy... Anyway, trying not to speculate on the figures and costs, but $100 wont last long when you are talking at least 10 people want stuff... If figures are $3 each, that would be about 30 figs maximum, and I see many people who want one of each.... I would feel that once we find out exactly what richard can get, could someone else fork out an advance on their figures if they are buying a lot ( one of each ), that would make it where more people would have a chance at getting those one or two figs they want... Thanks to Richard and Dzirhan in advance for the effort they are putting into this Matt - trying not to count his chickens....errr.... Listen and Fun Tripwires.... before they hatch.. > > Hi everyone, > > Just to add on to my earlier postings, the $100 I will send to Richard > does not include the Fedex costs which I will send also. This will be > worked into individual payments and divided according to the number of > people involved in this. The other thing is $100 might not go far in > obtaining the Joes so I suggest that to maximise things and to make sure > that everyone gets a chance of getting what they want, we start with > getting figures only first in November and vehicles later in December, > if anyone wants, I can hold the figs for posting with vehicles later if > you want to save on postage. If Richard can come up with a list of > whatever figures is available there and the prices for each item, then > we all have an idea of what available. At the start of November I will > post to the list calling for orders to be posted on the list and it will > be dealt with on a first come first served basis and to make things fair > for everyone the maximum total for each order will be $15 (if you have > more the excess will go to December's arrangements), that way at least > 7 people can get their items. Those who don't get their chance in > November will be put immediately on the December list. My purchases will > be seperate from the $100 advance I'm putting up. I post the list of > required items to Richard and send the money and he sends them to me and > as earlier proposed I sort out the individual orders for postage. I will > have to warn everyone that in terms of payment to me there will be extra > charges but only for the packaging, the fedex postage and any bank fees > for banking in postal or money orders sent to me, I will not be making > any profit off this. I will probably be able to do this for as long as > everyone on the list wants it to go. What do you all think and Richard, > is this arrangement o.k with you? Thanks for the vote of confidence Ed. > I hope that we can all get this thing going in November. > > Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.26 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:37:15 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Works for me! I'll try to be with the first to order. This is a good deal, guys. Keep it going. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.27 --------------- From: WyvernDrag@aol.com Subject: Re: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:37:09 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't really care what process you guys use, just tell me how much I have to pay in order to get one of each 3 3/4 inch figure(excluding the 30th anniversary figures), and no vehicles. If I remember correctly, they are substantially cheaper, or, at least some of them were. C-V --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.28 --------------- From: Dawn Greider Subject: Re: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:51:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810101859.LAA12452@lists1.best.com> <199810110117.SAA28011@lists1.best.com> Dzirhan Mahadzir wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Just to add on to my earlier postings, the $100 I will send to Richard > does not include the Fedex costs which I will send also. This will be > worked into individual payments and divided according to the number of > people involved in this. The other thing is $100 might not go far in > obtaining the Joes so I suggest that to maximise things and to make sure > that everyone gets a chance of getting what they want, we start with > getting figures only first in November and vehicles later in December, > if anyone wants, I can hold the figs for posting with vehicles later if > you want to save on postage. If Richard can come up with a list of > whatever figures is available there and the prices for each item, then > we all have an idea of what available. At the start of November I will > post to the list calling for orders to be posted on the list and it will > be dealt with on a first come first served basis and to make things fair > for everyone the maximum total for each order will be $15 (if you have > more the excess will go to December's arrangements), that way at least > 7 people can get their items. Those who don't get their chance in > November will be put immediately on the December list. My purchases will > be seperate from the $100 advance I'm putting up. I post the list of > required items to Richard and send the money and he sends them to me and > as earlier proposed I sort out the individual orders for postage. I will > have to warn everyone that in terms of payment to me there will be extra > charges but only for the packaging, the fedex postage and any bank fees > for banking in postal or money orders sent to me, I will not be making > any profit off this. I will probably be able to do this for as long as > everyone on the list wants it to go. What do you all think and Richard, > is this arrangement o.k with you? Thanks for the vote of confidence Ed. > I hope that we can all get this thing going in November. > > Dzirhan I'd be willing to pay in advance for my figs. I want an Eco-Force Flint and any single Lunartix Empire alien. -Hurricane (no wry comment this time) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.29 --------------- From: GIJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 22:07:37 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have no problem fronting my money for the items I would like (honestly only 2 or 3), so does this plan take that into account or is it just the $100 fronting offered? John M. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n705.30 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: Re: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 22:43:53 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/10/98 10:20:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, GIJoe@aol.com writes: > I have no problem fronting my money for the items I would like (honestly only > 2 or 3), so does this plan take that into account or is it just the $100 > fronting offered? > > John M. I would also have no problem paying up front... as long as I know what I am paying for Ill pay for everything I am buying Matt --------------- END gijoe.v001.n705 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n706 -------------- 001 - WyvernDrag@aol.com - Re: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION 002 - Ed Dam - Re: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION 003 - Dzirhan Mahadzir - Re: The Price List 007 - BADSCNAME@aol.com - Shark 9000 008 - Dzirhan Mahadzir - Re: The Price List 024 - JSMosby61@aol.com - Re: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION 025 - GIJoe@aol.com - Re: Re: Shark 9000 026 - Rod Pellegrini Subject: Re: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 23:11:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810101859.LAA12452@lists1.best.com> <199810110117.SAA28011@lists1.best.com> Works for me!! As soon as some kind of list as to what exactly is available is put together, we can get this ball rolling! Ed Dzirhan Mahadzir wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Just to add on to my earlier postings, the $100 I will send to Richard > does not include the Fedex costs which I will send also. This will be > worked into individual payments and divided according to the number of > people involved in this. The other thing is $100 might not go far in > obtaining the Joes so I suggest that to maximise things and to make sure > that everyone gets a chance of getting what they want, we start with > getting figures only first in November and vehicles later in December, > if anyone wants, I can hold the figs for posting with vehicles later if > you want to save on postage. If Richard can come up with a list of > whatever figures is available there and the prices for each item, then > we all have an idea of what available. At the start of November I will > post to the list calling for orders to be posted on the list and it will > be dealt with on a first come first served basis and to make things fair > for everyone the maximum total for each order will be $15 (if you have > more the excess will go to December's arrangements), that way at least > 7 people can get their items. Those who don't get their chance in > November will be put immediately on the December list. My purchases will > be seperate from the $100 advance I'm putting up. I post the list of > required items to Richard and send the money and he sends them to me and > as earlier proposed I sort out the individual orders for postage. I will > have to warn everyone that in terms of payment to me there will be extra > charges but only for the packaging, the fedex postage and any bank fees > for banking in postal or money orders sent to me, I will not be making > any profit off this. I will probably be able to do this for as long as > everyone on the list wants it to go. What do you all think and Richard, > is this arrangement o.k with you? Thanks for the vote of confidence Ed. > I hope that we can all get this thing going in November. > > Dzirhan -- http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/tripcock/45/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/minstrel.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/titanic.html "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house" Ed Dam damed@iaw.on.ca --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.3 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:38:24 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810110209.TAA16523@lists1.best.com> GIJoe@aol.com wrote: > > I have no problem fronting my money for the items I would like (honestly only > 2 or 3), so does this plan take that into account or is it just the $100 > fronting offered? > > John M. Actually fronting the money is no problem, but as I did mention earlier this is just to assure those who might be afraid I disappear with their cash or items, but let's wait for Richard to respond first before we go further, I just like to remind everyone that I can only start this next month as I don't have enough cash on me this month, that will also give everyone time to collect their cash :). Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.4 --------------- From: le_saint1@hotmail.com Subject: The Price List Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:42:38 +0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, bear with me here... it's like this, all the figures are stapled together randomly in groups of 3's (i.e. 3-packs). star brigade, battle corps, DEF, EcoWarriors & Shadow Warriors are stapled together in 3's 3 3/4" 30th anniv. boxed are taped in pairs. each 3 pack or 30th anniv pair costs US$5 - US$6 depending on the exchange rate (very volatile). The snag is that if I want to get a Certain figure in a 3 pack, I have to buy the whole 3 pack. no single figure sales :( ***for example, If I wanted to get Predacon, and he came stapled with Duke & Effects, I'll have to buy all 3. It'll raise the total cost UNLESS someone also wanted the other 2 figures that came with Predacon. Same goes for the 30th anniv. If I wanted the Pilot only, I'll have to buy the Soldier that came taped to it. As you can see, Pricing is tricky with the figures. :( UNLESS, of course, you'd be willing to buy the other figures that came with it. (kinda like a surprise in every box deal) The Vehicles are straight forward. The small ones are US$ 12.50 each (Cobra Scorpion, invader, Ninja cycle, & rat) Medium sized ones are US$ 17.50 each (manta Ray, eco-striker, starfighter, razor-blade) Large vehicles comes with random smaller vehicles for US$ 25 Shark 9000 with a FREE razor blade (the helicopter, not the blade) 12" Flint/Falcon is US$ 17.50 12" Soldier is US$ 17.50 (I think, more or less) all are moc/mib. cards & boxes may have slight damage due to staple holes, creasing or scotch tape damage. (thank God not bullet holes!) Bubbles may have damage (splat!) but I will try to ensure to get the best ones ;) OK then... These I can guarantee are available: effects, duke, Carcass, lobotomaxx (forgot who the rest are) eco warriors: flint, cesspool ALL shadow warrior Ninjas DEF cutter, headman, headhunter, bullet proof Mega Monsters Bio- & Monstro- Vipers ALL VEHICLES mentioned above Street Fighter Chun Li, & the guy in Red (Ryu is it ?) These I have seen but availability is not sure or sure ONLY when I can buy direct from their warehouse (keep your fingers crossed): ALL the '94 battle corps, Eco-Warriors, DEF, US$7 Battle Copters, US$5 Wind up Canadian battle packs, some '93 leftover figures (BATS V2), US$7 Air Commandos, 12" Sailor, 12" Basic training Grunt&Heavy Duty, 12" Storm Shadow, 12" Rock&Roll. There is the possibility that they have others but the only way I can find out is _IF_ they allow me to buy from their warehouse. And a fair amount of digging. Literally. Did I tell you the time I was nearly knee deep in stapled moc 3pack joes so I could buy barbecue & toxo-viper ? heheheh... This shop I'm referring to has been around since the 1970's and God knows what else they got hidden away in their warehouse. >>>The Holy Grail of GI Joe: Listen N Fun Tripwire I'm terribly sorry but I couldn't find any left. I plan to bring the one I bought and show it to them to aid in identifying it in their old stocks. I should classify this one as weird bec the remains of its card is Listen N Fun Cliffjumper but with the GI Joe Tape and comes with 4 gray mines. definitely LNF Tripwire since it is identical to the pic in yojoe.com in form & colour. >>Question, what will happen with the higher demand stuff What happens if there are only 5 of these? I think it's better if we solve this lil problem when it arise. Having a terrible time finding more of LNF Tripwire :( >>Leave the aliens to me!!!!!!! Please???! spend this coming Christmas season in the Phils. and I promise you that you could swim in Lunartix Aliens ..heheheheh.... :D Lastly, Welcome aboard, Mr. Dzirhan. it's better fedex or dhl the box to him then he uses reg'd mail. I did that in my last trade. Oh yeah. I've only done one trade, if you need to know my record, it's with Mr. Blake Pearson. and, no, I don't intend to run off with anything. It's only money ;) When things get moving & Mr. Dzirhan confirms the order to liberate, I'll send him my real email and my contact #. _AND_ I will try to post a pic of the STOCKS to prove that they exist. *droooooool* sigh...it'll be years before the '98 joes arrive here :P the store will import from Hasbro Only if their existing stocks are gone. help meeeee... hahahahah....to give you an estimate of how large their stock is, imagine a pile of boxes 15ft. x 5ft. x 4ft. it was a rough guess given to me by the store supervisor. or so he says... Good Luck ALL (we need it) Richard --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.5 --------------- From: WyvernDrag@aol.com Subject: Re: The Price List Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 04:16:32 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/11/98 3:55:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, le_saint1@hotmail.com writes: > ***for example, If I wanted to get Predacon, and he came stapled with Duke & > Effects, I'll have to buy all 3. It'll > raise the total cost UNLESS someone also wanted the other 2 figures that > came with Predacon. It's like I said. I want one of each small figure, but no 30th anniversary figures, and no listen & fun Tripwire. In a nutshell, this is what I want: Star Brigade Figures 2 figures(Duke, Effects) Eco-Warriors Figures 9 figures Lunartix Empire Figures 3 figures Battle Corps Figures ?? figures(probably about 25 or so) DEF Figures 6 figures Shadow Ninja Figures 6 figures Leftover '93 Figures about 5 figures Mega Monsters Figures 2 figures Air Commando Figures 6 figures Total: 63 figures approx $2-$3 each $126-$189 Is this right? Please don't start this at least until the beginning of November. I forget who said it, but if we wait a little, we all can save our money, and we can get everything we want, that they have, that is :). Okay, I'm leaving for Arizona for the morning, so I'm goin' to sleep. Don't start this without me(I must be very annoying by now, but I REALLY WANT THESE FIGURES!!!!!!) C-V --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.6 --------------- From: Eugene Subject: Re: The Price List Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 01:57:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810110745.AAA19630@lists1.best.com> First off, major props to Rocketeer and Richard and Dzirhan for organizing this. At 12:42 AM -0700 10/11/98, le_saint1@hotmail.com wrote: >These I have seen but availability is not sure or sure ONLY when I can buy >direct from their warehouse (keep >your fingers crossed): >ALL the '94 battle corps, Eco-Warriors, DEF, US$7 Battle Copters, US$5 >Wind up Canadian battle packs, some >'93 leftover figures (BATS V2), US$7 Air Commandos, 12" Sailor, 12" Basic >training Grunt&Heavy Duty, 12" >Storm Shadow, 12" Rock&Roll. Question for you about the DEF figures you saw. Were they the U.S. releases? Were any of them the 1993 DEF carded figures that were only available in Australia? Have you seen DEF carded versions of Law, Mace, Muskrat, Long Arm, Gristle, or Headhunter Stormtrooper? -Eugene ------------------------------------------------------------ eugenE | YO JOE! |--------------------------------------- eson@yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! ------------------------------------------------------------ "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" ------------------------------------------------------------ "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.7 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Shark 9000 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 05:09:03 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, what's the Shark 9000 and why can't i find a pic of it at YOJOE.com? 'Cuz i'm blind? --Magoo --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.8 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: Shark 9000 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:49:08 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810110911.CAA13959@lists1.best.com> BADSCNAME@aol.com wrote: > > OK, what's the Shark 9000 and why can't i find a pic of it at YOJOE.com? > 'Cuz i'm blind? > --Magoo Shark 9000 is a boat for the DEF, check the 93 or 94 catalog, I think they have it in there Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.9 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: The Price List Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:02:41 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810110745.AAA19630@lists1.best.com> Hi everyone, I guess that's pretty settled then and we get started in November, I'll contact Richard then. In the meantime, Richard can update us if any other joe figs or vehicles turn up and if any other things come up. By the way Eugene, my figures of Mace, Long Arm and Gristle all have the DEF cards, I've still got the intact cards. I bought them all here in Malaysia just last year in a TRU here. I discovered them purely by luck when I was on vacation in another town. Before anyone asks, there aren't any joes around here because I bought up everything that remained here in Malaysia, some stuff might turn up I hope, when TRU clears its toy stocks here, I suspect they may have some Joes lying about as occaisionally some of the stuff they put in the discount bins are six years old. If anyone is interested I do have Ninja Force and a few Battle Corps figures for trade. The only stuff still on the shelves here are the Streefighter Karate Choppers. I'm trying to find some free time to check out some other towns and Singapore if there are any Joes left around. Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.10 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: JOE Liberation Army .. JLA Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:01:03 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Joes, First , thanks to Eugene for the 'recognition' but all I really did was be the first guy to instigate this..8-) A few comments - 1) I think the deal with sending em to Dzirhan and then here is good ( he seems reputable, of course I am still awaiting my ' goodies'..8-). And thanks, Dzirhan for the offer to do this for the Joes. 2) However, I would have to say ( and partly due to prior discussiond with Dzirhan before this was ever started ) that it would be best to MASS SHIP the Joes to the US anyways, to a contact person here . I would be willing to do that , unless someone wants to step forward. He ( Dzirhan ) had told me earlier, on my stuff he is searching for for me, that ONE large box would be significantly cheaper than several smaller ones. Then , once the stuff is here - I ( or whoever ) can reship priority mail for real cheap. 3) also - if this were done ( enmass shipping to here ) then the ' 3 pack' figures could be worried about at that piont ( ie: do send all the figures - then fill list orders form those - and any ' extras' post to the list for any takers. 4) one thing I do NOT want to see is any ' scalpers' getting into this - I think this find needs to be shared and benefitted by all. I realize some will want more than others ( diue to not having as many now or whatever ), but we should all try to work this out and hopefully everyone will get items they want / like. Personally, I think I have everything mentioned, allthought the LNFun Tripwire would be nice as mine is not 100% mint, complete. I would LOVE to have the three aliens so I can open up a set ( yes, mine will stay MOC forever , sorry ) SO , we have a few weeks to get this all set ( recon, planning, infiltation )...YO JOE !!! WELL ???? - rocketeer - Http://www,netcom.com/~rktmoose/smlist.html --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.11 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: 1993 DEF Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:06:34 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Eugene mentioned the DEF carded 1993 LAW, etc figures. I think I may have posted to the list on this before, but according to the Lee's ?94 convention magazine ( and ? elsewhere ) - I had seen a note about 24 sets ( or some such ) or these that WERE test relesed in the US on DEF cards, then switched to BCorp cards. The rest were sent to Austrlia. Question is - is there a difference between the 24 US issed sets and the Austrlian ones ? I have three of these on the DEF cards ( Long Arm, LAW, Mace ) that I bought at the 1995 convention from James DiSimone ( don't get started Weasel...). Just curious if these ARE the US ones, as he obviously had inside connections to get a set.... Al / rocketeer note to Eugene: will get you some scans of these, too, if I ever get the scanner working...8-( --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.12 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: The Price List Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:19:37 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 10/11/98 15:42:38 you wrote: > >Hi all, > >bear with me here... >it's like this, all the figures are stapled together randomly in groups >of 3's (i.e. 3-packs). >star brigade, battle corps, DEF, EcoWarriors & Shadow Warriors are stapled together in 3's >3 3/4" 30th anniv. boxed are taped in pairs. > >each 3 pack or 30th anniv pair costs US$5 - US$6 depending on the exchange rate (very volatile). > >The snag is that if I want to get a Certain figure in a 3 pack, I have to buy the whole 3 pack. no single figure >sales :( > >***for example, If I wanted to get Predacon, and he came stapled with Duke & Effects, I'll have to buy all 3. It'll >raise the total cost UNLESS someone also wanted the other 2 figures that came with Predacon. >Same goes for the 30th anniv. If I wanted the Pilot only, I'll have to buy the Soldier that came taped to it. As >you can see, Pricing is tricky with the figures. :( >UNLESS, of course, you'd be willing to buy the other figures that came with it. >(kinda like a surprise in every box deal) > >The Vehicles are straight forward. >The small ones are US$ 12.50 each >(Cobra Scorpion, invader, Ninja cycle, & rat) > >Medium sized ones are US$ 17.50 each >(manta Ray, eco-striker, starfighter, razor-blade) > >Large vehicles comes with random smaller vehicles for US$ 25 >Shark 9000 with a FREE razor blade (the helicopter, not the blade) > >12" Flint/Falcon is US$ 17.50 >12" Soldier is US$ 17.50 (I think, more or less) > >all are moc/mib. cards & boxes may have slight damage due to staple holes, creasing or scotch tape damage. >(thank God not bullet holes!) Bubbles may have damage (splat!) but I will try to ensure to get the best ones ;) > >OK then... >These I can guarantee are available: >effects, duke, Carcass, lobotomaxx (forgot who the rest are) >eco warriors: flint, cesspool >ALL shadow warrior Ninjas >DEF cutter, headman, headhunter, bullet proof >Mega Monsters Bio- & Monstro- Vipers >ALL VEHICLES mentioned above >Street Fighter Chun Li, & the guy in Red (Ryu is it ?) > >These I have seen but availability is not sure or sure ONLY when I can buy direct from their warehouse (keep >your fingers crossed): >ALL the '94 battle corps, Eco-Warriors, DEF, US$7 Battle Copters, US$5 Wind up Canadian battle packs, some >'93 leftover figures (BATS V2), US$7 Air Commandos, 12" Sailor, 12" Basic training Grunt&Heavy Duty, 12" >Storm Shadow, 12" Rock&Roll. > >There is the possibility that they have others but the only way I can find out is _IF_ they allow me to buy from >their warehouse. And a fair amount of digging. Literally. Did I tell you the time I was nearly knee deep in >stapled moc 3pack joes so I could buy barbecue & toxo-viper ? heheheh... > >This shop I'm referring to has been around since the 1970's and God knows what else they got hidden away in >their warehouse. > >>>>The Holy Grail of GI Joe: Listen N Fun Tripwire >I'm terribly sorry but I couldn't find any left. I plan to bring the one I bought and show it to them to aid in >identifying it in their old stocks. I should classify this one as weird bec the remains of its card is Listen N Fun >Cliffjumper but with the GI Joe Tape and comes with 4 gray mines. definitely LNF Tripwire since it is identical >to the pic in yojoe.com in form & colour. > >>>Question, what will happen with the higher demand stuff What happens if there are only 5 of these? > >I think it's better if we solve this lil problem when it arise. Having a terrible time finding more of LNF Tripwire :( > >>>Leave the aliens to me!!!!!!! Please???! >spend this coming Christmas season in the Phils. and I promise you that you could swim in Lunartix Aliens >..heheheheh.... :D > >Lastly, Welcome aboard, Mr. Dzirhan. it's better fedex or dhl the box to him then he uses reg'd mail. I did that >in my last trade. Oh yeah. I've only done one trade, if you need to know my record, it's with Mr. Blake Pearson. >and, no, I don't intend to run off with anything. It's only money ;) >When things get moving & Mr. Dzirhan confirms the order to liberate, I'll send him my real email and my >contact #. >_AND_ I will try to post a pic of the STOCKS to prove that they exist. >*droooooool* > >sigh...it'll be years before the '98 joes arrive here :P >the store will import from Hasbro Only if their existing stocks are gone. help meeeee... hahahahah....to give >you an estimate of how large their stock is, imagine a pile of boxes 15ft. x 5ft. x 4ft. >it was a rough guess given to me by the store supervisor. or so he says... > >Good Luck ALL >(we need it) > >Richard > > Truth be told here, the vehicle prices do not look so good. The HOF seem allright if someone is inclined to want those. The figures ....!!!!!... however.. At 6.00 for a 3-pack ( 2.00 each figure ), definately DO count me in for a heap ( armies, customs, etc....8-)... JLA forces unite !!! - rocketeer - ** Everything in life, I learned from reading my Cocoa Puffs boxes ** Http://www.netcom.com/~rktmoose/smlist.html --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.13 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: Re: JOE Liberation Army .. JLA Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 09:25:51 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > 4) one thing I do NOT want to see is any ' scalpers' getting into this - I > think this find needs to be shared and benefitted by all. > I realize some will want more than others ( diue to not having as many > now or whatever ), but we should all try to work this out and hopefully > everyone will get items they want / like. > > Personally, I think I have everything mentioned, allthought the LNFun > Tripwire would be nice as mine is not 100% mint, complete. > I would LOVE to have the three aliens so I can open up a set ( yes, mine > will stay MOC forever , sorry ) I do not have everything on the list, just am not a huge 90s fan, so their are only a few figures I "like"... The three alieans would be cool, and the DEF carded's that were not released in the states would also be... But for $5 for three figures, any are worth it... > SO , we have a few weeks to get this all set ( recon, planning, infiltation > )...YO JOE !!! > > WELL ???? GO FOR IT!!! Im all set Matt --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.14 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: JOE Liberation Army .. JLA Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:39:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First off,Dhirhan and I have had several deals,and he is a very good trader. Second,I don't think there are any scalpers on this list (although I admit I have ordered several Viper Packs from Canada) Rocketeer does have a good point about shipping all joes to one person in the USA. It would be cheaper. Off course,it would also be a good idea for Dhirzan to hold a few back,to ship directly to us overseas guys on the list. just my 2 cents Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.15 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:45:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ya know,between this joe find in the Phillipines and the new 98 joes out in Canada,Christmas is coming early! YO JOE Tim (who's putting DOWN the coffeemug and trying to relax...) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.16 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: JOE Liberation Army .. JLA Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:25:36 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810111301.GAA11604@lists1.best.com> rktmoose@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > Joes, > > First , thanks to Eugene for the 'recognition' but all I really did was be the first guy to instigate this..8-) > > A few comments - > > 1) I think the deal with sending em to Dzirhan and then here is good ( he seems reputable, of course I am still awaiting my ' goodies'..8-). > > And thanks, Dzirhan for the offer to do this for the Joes. > > 2) However, I would have to say ( and partly due to prior discussiond with Dzirhan before this was ever started ) that it would be best to MASS SHIP the Joes to the US anyways, to a contact person here . > I would be willing to do that , unless someone wants to step forward. > > He ( Dzirhan ) had told me earlier, on my stuff he is searching for for me, that ONE large box would be significantly cheaper than several smaller ones. > Thanks Al for your comments and praise for me. It is cheaper for me to ship one or several big boxes by priority mail. The other thing to sort out is how payment is todone. As mentioned earlier I am putting out $100 as an advance so I have to get that money plus reimbursement for the postage from phillipines and from Malaysia to the States. The other thing is that if I'm going to send payment to Richard I may have to send it in his currency or check with a bank as to whether I can send in U.S dollars. Whatever it is there will be charges by the bank or post office for these things not to mention if anyone sends payment to me there's a surcharge by the banks here to cash them in but I'm going to check sometime this month if I can open a US $ account to handle all this as Citibank is present here so you might be able to just transfer funds to me and I can also transfer to Richard but even this will involve bank charges, so I'ed like to warn everyone in advance. I've also got no problems making arrangements for non-U.S residents as Tim proposed, it would be simpler for me just to post direct to them rather then have it go to the U.S and reposted making double the postage charge. We have about three weeks to work this out so all inputs and a general agreement as to how it's going to be done is welcomed (or required) :) Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.17 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: JOE Liberation Army .. JLA Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:21:47 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Man, this is just another reason why the internet kick ass!!! If anyone needs me, i'll be reading all the JLA messeges and waiting to read one that says were to send the $$$. Perhaps someone should send the digest version of the list to Hasbro so they'll see how much interest there still is for the lil' Joes. Maybe say: "See how rabid and greedy we are about your toys?" Then we all send a petition to make more figures =D --Silly Idea Man --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.18 --------------- From: SNARF5181@aol.com Subject: Re: The Price List Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:22:51 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/11/98 4:23:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, WyvernDrag@aol.com writes: << Battle Corps Figures ?? figures (probably about 25 or so) DEF Figures 6 figures Shadow Ninja Figures 6 figures Leftover '93 Figures about 5 figures >> these are the figures id be interested in id also be interested in some vehicles im looking through yojoe.com to see which ones they are so ill get back to you ---Snarf --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.19 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: 1993 DEF Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:35:41 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810111307.GAA12826@lists1.best.com> I can say that the DEF cards didn't appear in Australia alone, I bought my Mace, Long Arm and Gristle on DEF cards here in Malaysia last year when I found them in TRU's discount section, I still have the cards as I removed the figures carefully out of the blisters (Before anyone asks, those were the only ones there though I might have to check that TRU again someday but it's 400 KM away from where I live - was there on vacation at that time). I suspect that DEF card figure generally were released in the Asia-Pacific Region. Maybe more might turn up here someday somewhere here and I'll let everyone know if it does. Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.20 --------------- From: Dawn Greider Subject: Re: The Price List Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:48:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810110745.AAA19630@lists1.best.com> le_saint1@hotmail.com wrote: > > Hi all, > > bear with me here... > it's like this, all the figures are stapled together randomly in groups > of 3's (i.e. 3-packs). > star brigade, battle corps, DEF, EcoWarriors & Shadow Warriors are stapled together in 3's > 3 3/4" 30th anniv. boxed are taped in pairs. > > each 3 pack or 30th anniv pair costs US$5 - US$6 depending on the exchange rate (very volatile). > > The snag is that if I want to get a Certain figure in a 3 pack, I have to buy the whole 3 pack. no single figure > sales :( > > ***for example, If I wanted to get Predacon, and he came stapled with Duke & Effects, I'll have to buy all 3. It'll > raise the total cost UNLESS someone also wanted the other 2 figures that came with Predacon. > Same goes for the 30th anniv. If I wanted the Pilot only, I'll have to buy the Soldier that came taped to it. As > you can see, Pricing is tricky with the figures. :( > UNLESS, of course, you'd be willing to buy the other figures that came with it. > (kinda like a surprise in every box deal) > > The Vehicles are straight forward. > The small ones are US$ 12.50 each > (Cobra Scorpion, invader, Ninja cycle, & rat) > > Medium sized ones are US$ 17.50 each > (manta Ray, eco-striker, starfighter, razor-blade) > > Large vehicles comes with random smaller vehicles for US$ 25 > Shark 9000 with a FREE razor blade (the helicopter, not the blade) > > 12" Flint/Falcon is US$ 17.50 > 12" Soldier is US$ 17.50 (I think, more or less) > > all are moc/mib. cards & boxes may have slight damage due to staple holes, creasing or scotch tape damage. > (thank God not bullet holes!) Bubbles may have damage (splat!) but I will try to ensure to get the best ones ;) > > OK then... > These I can guarantee are available: > effects, duke, Carcass, lobotomaxx (forgot who the rest are) > eco warriors: flint, cesspool > ALL shadow warrior Ninjas > DEF cutter, headman, headhunter, bullet proof > Mega Monsters Bio- & Monstro- Vipers > ALL VEHICLES mentioned above > Street Fighter Chun Li, & the guy in Red (Ryu is it ?) > > These I have seen but availability is not sure or sure ONLY when I can buy direct from their warehouse (keep > your fingers crossed): > ALL the '94 battle corps, Eco-Warriors, DEF, US$7 Battle Copters, US$5 Wind up Canadian battle packs, some > '93 leftover figures (BATS V2), US$7 Air Commandos, 12" Sailor, 12" Basic training Grunt&Heavy Duty, 12" > Storm Shadow, 12" Rock&Roll. > > There is the possibility that they have others but the only way I can find out is _IF_ they allow me to buy from > their warehouse. And a fair amount of digging. Literally. Did I tell you the time I was nearly knee deep in > stapled moc 3pack joes so I could buy barbecue & toxo-viper ? heheheh... > > This shop I'm referring to has been around since the 1970's and God knows what else they got hidden away in > their warehouse. > > >>>The Holy Grail of GI Joe: Listen N Fun Tripwire > I'm terribly sorry but I couldn't find any left. I plan to bring the one I bought and show it to them to aid in > identifying it in their old stocks. I should classify this one as weird bec the remains of its card is Listen N Fun > Cliffjumper but with the GI Joe Tape and comes with 4 gray mines. definitely LNF Tripwire since it is identical > to the pic in yojoe.com in form & colour. > > >>Question, what will happen with the higher demand stuff What happens if there are only 5 of these? > > I think it's better if we solve this lil problem when it arise. Having a terrible time finding more of LNF Tripwire :( > > >>Leave the aliens to me!!!!!!! Please???! > spend this coming Christmas season in the Phils. and I promise you that you could swim in Lunartix Aliens > ..heheheheh.... :D > > Lastly, Welcome aboard, Mr. Dzirhan. it's better fedex or dhl the box to him then he uses reg'd mail. I did that > in my last trade. Oh yeah. I've only done one trade, if you need to know my record, it's with Mr. Blake Pearson. > and, no, I don't intend to run off with anything. It's only money ;) > When things get moving & Mr. Dzirhan confirms the order to liberate, I'll send him my real email and my > contact #. > _AND_ I will try to post a pic of the STOCKS to prove that they exist. > *droooooool* > > sigh...it'll be years before the '98 joes arrive here :P > the store will import from Hasbro Only if their existing stocks are gone. help meeeee... hahahahah....to give > you an estimate of how large their stock is, imagine a pile of boxes 15ft. x 5ft. x 4ft. > it was a rough guess given to me by the store supervisor. or so he says... > > Good Luck ALL > (we need it) > > Richard SWEET! Now that I know this I'll take a "3-pack" of Eco Warriors and a Battle Copter. -Hurricane --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.21 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Joe Liberation Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:07:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been quiet up until now, but now I need to know something. Dzirhan has been talking about seven people each getting $15 dollars worth of Joes. Well, what if I want $80 worth of Joes? Do I send the money to him, plus an amount for shipping? -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.22 --------------- From: Calvin Woo Subject: Re: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 09:23:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810110315.UAA09520@lists1.best.com> I want one of each figure with the 30th anniversary, but I need to know the price. Also, what vehicles are there? It would be good if we could get an exact list of what's available and everyone just send orders of what they want. Thanks Calvin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.23 --------------- From: Ed Dam Subject: Re: The Price List Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:10:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810110745.AAA19630@lists1.best.com> Wow. I definitly want 1994 Duke 1994 Effects One of each of the aliens Def Bullet Proof Def Headhunter Def Cutter Monstro Viper >From the list of the "Definitly Available" >From the Warehouse if you get access I want: And, if there are some, 1 of each of the Air Commandos you can find. And if you can get more of the 94 Battle Corps, I want Lifeline, Viper, Metal Head, and Dial Tone Also, if there does end up being Australia carded DEF figures, I want 1 of each of them as well. I might want some 93 carded leftovers, but I would have to wait and see what there is. YOJOE!!!! A HEFTY thanks to Richard and Dzirhan for setting this up for us. I can;t wait to get this under way. Is anyone keeping track of what everyone wants, and what it would cost?? Just Curious Ed le_saint1@hotmail.com wrote: > Hi all, > > bear with me here... > it's like this, all the figures are stapled together randomly in groups > of 3's (i.e. 3-packs). > star brigade, battle corps, DEF, EcoWarriors & Shadow Warriors are stapled together in 3's > 3 3/4" 30th anniv. boxed are taped in pairs. > > each 3 pack or 30th anniv pair costs US$5 - US$6 depending on the exchange rate (very volatile). > > The snag is that if I want to get a Certain figure in a 3 pack, I have to buy the whole 3 pack. no single figure > sales :( > > ***for example, If I wanted to get Predacon, and he came stapled with Duke & Effects, I'll have to buy all 3. It'll > raise the total cost UNLESS someone also wanted the other 2 figures that came with Predacon. > Same goes for the 30th anniv. If I wanted the Pilot only, I'll have to buy the Soldier that came taped to it. As > you can see, Pricing is tricky with the figures. :( > UNLESS, of course, you'd be willing to buy the other figures that came with it. > (kinda like a surprise in every box deal) > > The Vehicles are straight forward. > The small ones are US$ 12.50 each > (Cobra Scorpion, invader, Ninja cycle, & rat) > > Medium sized ones are US$ 17.50 each > (manta Ray, eco-striker, starfighter, razor-blade) > > Large vehicles comes with random smaller vehicles for US$ 25 > Shark 9000 with a FREE razor blade (the helicopter, not the blade) > > 12" Flint/Falcon is US$ 17.50 > 12" Soldier is US$ 17.50 (I think, more or less) > > all are moc/mib. cards & boxes may have slight damage due to staple holes, creasing or scotch tape damage. > (thank God not bullet holes!) Bubbles may have damage (splat!) but I will try to ensure to get the best ones ;) > > OK then... > These I can guarantee are available: > effects, duke, Carcass, lobotomaxx (forgot who the rest are) > eco warriors: flint, cesspool > ALL shadow warrior Ninjas > DEF cutter, headman, headhunter, bullet proof > Mega Monsters Bio- & Monstro- Vipers > ALL VEHICLES mentioned above > Street Fighter Chun Li, & the guy in Red (Ryu is it ?) > > These I have seen but availability is not sure or sure ONLY when I can buy direct from their warehouse (keep > your fingers crossed): > ALL the '94 battle corps, Eco-Warriors, DEF, US$7 Battle Copters, US$5 Wind up Canadian battle packs, some > '93 leftover figures (BATS V2), US$7 Air Commandos, 12" Sailor, 12" Basic training Grunt&Heavy Duty, 12" > Storm Shadow, 12" Rock&Roll. > > There is the possibility that they have others but the only way I can find out is _IF_ they allow me to buy from > their warehouse. And a fair amount of digging. Literally. Did I tell you the time I was nearly knee deep in > stapled moc 3pack joes so I could buy barbecue & toxo-viper ? heheheh... > > This shop I'm referring to has been around since the 1970's and God knows what else they got hidden away in > their warehouse. > > >>>The Holy Grail of GI Joe: Listen N Fun Tripwire > I'm terribly sorry but I couldn't find any left. I plan to bring the one I bought and show it to them to aid in > identifying it in their old stocks. I should classify this one as weird bec the remains of its card is Listen N Fun > Cliffjumper but with the GI Joe Tape and comes with 4 gray mines. definitely LNF Tripwire since it is identical > to the pic in yojoe.com in form & colour. > > >>Question, what will happen with the higher demand stuff What happens if there are only 5 of these? > > I think it's better if we solve this lil problem when it arise. Having a terrible time finding more of LNF Tripwire :( > > >>Leave the aliens to me!!!!!!! Please???! > spend this coming Christmas season in the Phils. and I promise you that you could swim in Lunartix Aliens > ..heheheheh.... :D > > Lastly, Welcome aboard, Mr. Dzirhan. it's better fedex or dhl the box to him then he uses reg'd mail. I did that > in my last trade. Oh yeah. I've only done one trade, if you need to know my record, it's with Mr. Blake Pearson. > and, no, I don't intend to run off with anything. It's only money ;) > When things get moving & Mr. Dzirhan confirms the order to liberate, I'll send him my real email and my > contact #. > _AND_ I will try to post a pic of the STOCKS to prove that they exist. > *droooooool* > > sigh...it'll be years before the '98 joes arrive here :P > the store will import from Hasbro Only if their existing stocks are gone. help meeeee... hahahahah....to give > you an estimate of how large their stock is, imagine a pile of boxes 15ft. x 5ft. x 4ft. > it was a rough guess given to me by the store supervisor. or so he says... > > Good Luck ALL > (we need it) > > Richard -- http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/tripcock/45/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/minstrel.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/titanic.html "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house" Ed Dam damed@iaw.on.ca --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.24 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:33:30 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/11/98 4:37:47 PM !!!First Boot!!!, calvinw@vcn.bc.ca writes: << I want one of each figure with the 30th anniversary, but I need to know the price. Also, what vehicles are there? It would be good if we could get an exact list of what's available and everyone just send orders of what they want. >> I concur --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.25 --------------- From: GIJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Shark 9000 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:03:37 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Technically the Shark 9000 is a Battle Corps vehicle. It shows DEF on the emblems on the vehicle on the box, but the decals and the logo on the box are actually Battle Corps. They cancelled the DEF and merged it with Battle Corps. I have heard rumors that this vehicle and Mace, Long Arm, Headhunter Storm Trooper, Law, and Gristle were released on DEF cards rather than Battle Corps cards in Australia unlike here in the US. Those would be a cool thing to have. I have a loose complete Shark 9000 w/ Cutter for sale if anyone is interested. It will be less than gettting from the Phillipenes..... John M. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.26 --------------- From: Rod Pellegrini Subject: Joe liberation front Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:18:24 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Richard, I was wondering if you saw my previous post asking about the Fed-ex rate. Basically, I wonder if it is $90 bucks flat for a particular sized box or if it depends on the weight. You see, I think that considering all the people interested it would be best if you just shipped everything at once to the states and we had someone here redistribute. This would diminish the possibilities of the joes getting lost on the way back home. Moreover, it would save Dziran a hassle (shipping everything individually all over). Also, I know people are working on this already, but you might wanna check on it too: find out if there is a shipping company (freight by boat) that might take an individual (you) up in shipping one big, huge box to the states. This should be a lot cheaper and also save Dziran the work. Besides, we'd get everything at once, and then we'd just have to redistribute within the states. Once you find out if we can just buy the whole stock from this warehouse/store that should also reduce costs exponentially! they are bound to give you a discount for such a large purchase. All we need to know is how much the whole warehouse stock is worth, how much the shipping would cost to the U.S. and then we can figure out domesting shipping on our own. Once we know the first two, we can work on raising the money. I think this would work best. Let us all know what you think, Rockhammer KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // "ROCK CHALK JAYHAWKS" KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU ////////////////////////////////////////// KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Rod A. Pellegrini KKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Jayhawks rule!!!!! KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // rodpelle@falcon.cc.ukans.edu KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // Live long and prosper KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // May the force be with you --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n706.27 --------------- From: "Sam Fain" Subject: Re: Joe Liberation Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:35:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Very good point here, 'cause I'm the same way. I'd really like quite a few of the things mentioned and I could probably spend $100 on things I'd like alone! So what will be done about things like this? BTW I haven't said much on this subject but major thanks goes to everyone who put this all together! Sam "Shade" Fain -----Original Message----- From: Rottweiler To: gijoe@lists.best.com Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 8:17 AM Subject: Joe Liberation >I've been quiet up until now, but now I need to know something. Dzirhan >has been talking about seven people each getting $15 dollars worth of >Joes. Well, what if I want $80 worth of Joes? Do I send the money to >him, plus an amount for shipping? > >-- >Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen > >"We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in >tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin > --------------- END gijoe.v001.n706 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n707 -------------- 001 - DrHarmoney@aol.com - Joe Liberation 002 - "Peter W. Owens" - Re: Get Joes: READ EVERYONE G.I. Joe 3 3/4" Mailing List Digest --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.1 --------------- From: DrHarmoney@aol.com Subject: Joe Liberation Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:17:14 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This Joe liberation thing sounds groovy. I want to play. :) Actually, what I really want is a 12 inch Flint. So I'll interested in hearing the price when it's available. Thanks Take Care -Ray --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.2 --------------- From: "Peter W. Owens" Subject: Re: JOE Liberation Army .. JLA Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 02:22:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810120410.VAA25763@lists1.best.com> Count me in on the fun, too...what do I have to do? I'm not too particular on which ones I get... "They tell me that an officer's job is to impel others to take the risks-so that the officer survives to take the blame in the event of a total catastrophe. With all due respect, sir...if that's what an officer does, I don't want any part of it." Duke, G.I. Joe filecard, Statement on declining commission --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.3 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: Joe liberation front Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:30:19 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810120019.RAA10930@lists1.best.com> Rod Pellegrini wrote: > > Richard, > I was wondering if you saw my previous post asking about the > Fed-ex rate. Basically, I wonder if it is $90 bucks flat for a particular > sized box or if it depends on the weight. You see, I think that > considering all the people interested it would be best if you just shipped > everything at once to the states and we had someone here redistribute. > This would diminish the possibilities of the joes getting lost on the way > back home. Moreover, it would save Dziran a hassle (shipping everything > individually all over). > Also, I know people are working on this already, but you might wanna check > on it too: find out if there is a shipping company (freight by boat) that > might take an individual (you) up in shipping one big, huge box to the > states. This should be a lot cheaper and also save Dziran the work. I have to concur that Rod does have a viable proposal but I have to say that a boat shipment would take at least 3 months as I have shipped and had stuff shipped to me by boat from the states and I'm about a week's sailing from the phillipines so I supect it's the same. I don't mind taking care of the non-u.s orders if it turns out that it's just cheaper to post to the states for u.s and canadian residents ordering the joes. I've actually worked out a new mechanism for how to work this deal out but I'll keep it first until Richard can reply to us as too many ideas mooted out will confuse the situation. I do think at the moment that any further ideas from all on the list should also be put on hold as I think we've already given Richard a lot to look into. Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.4 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: Joe Liberation Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:33:08 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810120137.SAA18025@lists1.best.com> Sam Fain wrote: > > Very good point here, 'cause I'm the same way. I'd really like quite a few > of the things mentioned and I could probably spend $100 on things I'd like > alone! So what will be done about things like this? BTW I haven't said > much on this subject but major thanks goes to everyone who put this all > together! > Sam "Shade" Fain I 've got a new mechanism worked out to incorporate this but I'll wait until Richard responds to Rod's posting Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.5 --------------- From: Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com Subject: Re: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:48:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Just how many figures would comfortably fit in a "10 kg" box? Wouldn't it make more sense to fill a box rather than arbitrarily cut it off at $100? If it's a matter of needing the cash up front, that's not a problem... -Kj, struggling with his metric conversion --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.6 --------------- From: le_saint1@hotmail.com Subject: warehouse access granted Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 22:53:53 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Briefing: Just got back from negotiating and lost my wallet on the way home. bummer. it's been a long & terrible day for me so let me put it straight in a list: >>>$90 fedex shipping fee <-- flat rate. forgot the box dimension but it'srather small. (3 shoe boxes put together). I'll ask DHL. >>>Time Frame <-- let's keep this open. I know some of you are a lil short on cash and we still have to plan this carefully or end up in one big snafu, so we give it a month. chill.... 8-) >DEF <-- US releases. the early DEF. the later DEF are carded with Battle Corps. >>>4) one thing I do NOT want to see is any ' scalpers' getting into this - I think this find needs to be shared and benefitted by all. ***YOU SAID IT.*** I'd hate to rave but I'm doing this with no personal profit. If that happens, then it would have been wiser for me to add something substantial to the price. Given that I have to go through the trouble of doing the recon, negotiating (losing my wallet along the way) , digging & sorting, .....while someone's making a profit from this would really be unfair to me. I should be spending my time & effort in finding a job like I should be doing now. This should be a collective effort to be "shared and benefitted by all." 'nuff said. >>Perhaps someone should send the digest version of the list to Hasbro so they'll see how much interest there still is for the lil' Joes. Maybe say: "See how rabid and greedy we are about your toys?" Then we all send a petition to make more figures =D --Silly Idea Man .......COOL....hehehehehehe.....and ask 'em to send some of the '98 in the Phils...... ;) >>shipping company <-- like what I said, the shipping isn't reliable. bluntly put, they're notorious for stealing items. (I hate saying that) I'll keep trying ;) UPDATE: I, now, have warehouse access. =) The warehouse office is awaiting my call for an appointment. One lil concern for me is that the place is hard to get to. :( so, here I am, trying to get over my financial tragedies and building up courage to actually go there. MASS QUANTITIES (or ..I think we bit off more than we can chew...) everyone, the number of figures in stock is STAGGERING ! I really doubt if we can get an exact list. *imagines digging all day & night* Supervisor says it would take me days to list down what figures are available and extreme Manual Labour. Most of the them are stapled in 3 packs while some are unattached. The Figure Plan: I will print out a yearly Check List of Joes from 1988-94 and check the ones I saw and how many are left. Any rare/weird figures will be bought immediately and posted. We settle who-gets-who later. Let's worry 'bout shipping the first batch for now ;) I'm walking on eggs here bec I don't know how long these guys will tolerate me going through their stuff. Pray that they will tolerate us :( and, YES, they will throw something for free with such a huge order. My guess is that they _might_ throw in some medium sized vehicles. PRAY HARD. VEHICLES, however, are running out. The vehicles I listed are the only ones they got, though, there maybe loose ones available (I bought a loose maggot from them 3 months ago). What I do hope to see are the loose vehicles used as displays. Some of their old displays are from 1988-1991. Hopefully a BUGG or a Rolling Thunder.... are the vehicles expensive ? someone please send me how much they are supposed to be worth to help me negotiate a better wholesale price. remember, they're NRFB-MIB... ThankS ! oh, and thanks to Mr. Eugene. I hope I could submit scans soon. Good Luck All, Richard --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.7 --------------- From: Scott Guthrie Subject: Re: warehouse access granted Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:37:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A INSANE idea Maybe try to get a total # of figs and such and see if they'll give you a total price. Then we could talk of contributions, one person handeling it (let him have some figs/vehicles for his work, Richard deserves some). I have done some dealing in my Transformer collections (Still looking for those extreme Action Masters) Maybe I'm crazy, but I think that's the most fun thing to be. Tech Mage > Scott Guthrie Electronic Technician Department of Physical Security 419-372-6953 sguthri@bgnet.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/offices/physplant/sec/ps-main.htm --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.8 --------------- From: Calvin Woo Subject: Re: warehouse access granted Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:16:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810121500.IAA13409@lists1.best.com> >From this posting, it seems that they might have some 1988 Joes, as you said that you'll make a list form 1988 to 1994. If that were the case that would be awesome. If all the figures are from certain years, maybe then, we could each send to you (not the list so it doesn't get cluttered) our want list and how many of each. If you have a list of what we want, you could look for those when you go through the pile. Calvin On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 le_saint1@hotmail.com wrote: > Briefing: Just got back from negotiating and lost my wallet on the way home. bummer. it's been a long & > terrible day for me so let me put it straight in a list: > >>>$90 fedex shipping fee > <-- flat rate. forgot the box dimension but it'srather small. (3 shoe boxes put together). I'll ask DHL. > >>>Time Frame > <-- let's keep this open. I know some of you are a lil short on cash and we still have to plan this carefully or > end up in one big snafu, so we give it a month. chill.... 8-) > >DEF <-- US releases. the early DEF. the later DEF are carded with Battle Corps. > > >>>4) one thing I do NOT want to see is any ' scalpers' getting into this - I think this find needs to be shared > and benefitted by all. > ***YOU SAID IT.*** > I'd hate to rave but I'm doing this with no personal profit. If that happens, then it would have been wiser for me > to add something substantial to the price. Given that I have to go through the trouble of doing the recon, > negotiating (losing my wallet along the way) , digging & sorting, .....while someone's making a profit from this > would really be unfair to me. I should be spending my time & effort in finding a job like I should be doing now. > This should be a collective effort to be "shared and benefitted by all." > 'nuff said. > > >>Perhaps someone should send the digest version of the list to Hasbro so they'll see how much interest > there still is for the lil' Joes. Maybe say: "See how rabid and greedy we are about your toys?" Then we all > send a petition to make more figures =D --Silly Idea Man > > .......COOL....hehehehehehe.....and ask 'em to send some of the '98 in the Phils...... ;) > > >>shipping company > <-- like what I said, the shipping isn't reliable. bluntly put, they're notorious for stealing items. (I hate saying > that) I'll keep trying ;) > > UPDATE: > I, now, have warehouse access. =) > The warehouse office is awaiting my call for an appointment. One lil concern for me is that the place is hard to > get to. :( > so, here I am, trying to get over my financial tragedies and building up courage to actually go there. > > MASS QUANTITIES (or ..I think we bit off more than we can chew...) > everyone, the number of figures in stock is STAGGERING ! I really doubt if we can get an exact list. *imagines > digging all day & night* > Supervisor says it would take me days to list down what figures are available and extreme Manual Labour. > Most of the them are stapled in 3 packs while some are unattached. > The Figure Plan: > I will print out a yearly Check List of Joes from 1988-94 and check the ones I saw and how many are left. Any > rare/weird figures will be bought immediately and posted. We settle who-gets-who later. Let's worry 'bout > shipping the first batch for now ;) > > I'm walking on eggs here bec I don't know how long these guys will tolerate me going through their stuff. Pray > that they will tolerate us :( > > and, YES, they will throw something for free with such a huge order. My guess is that they _might_ throw in > some medium sized vehicles. PRAY HARD. > > VEHICLES, however, are running out. The vehicles I listed are the only ones they got, though, there maybe > loose ones available (I bought a loose maggot from them 3 months ago). What I do hope to see are the loose > vehicles used as displays. Some of their old displays are from 1988-1991. Hopefully a BUGG or a Rolling > Thunder.... > > are the vehicles expensive ? someone please send me how much they are supposed to be worth to help me > negotiate a better wholesale price. remember, they're NRFB-MIB... ThankS ! > > oh, and thanks to Mr. Eugene. I hope I could submit scans soon. > Good Luck All, > > Richard > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.9 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Lifeline filecard info? Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:12:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'd like to know as much of this info as possible, but would specifically like to know filename, branch of service (if possible), and rank (including grade). Please send all this info privately to abernay@psnw.com . Thanks... Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNiJGccSNrCBK3ASDEQIBRwCfap604YMhwroDQsf8fe7G2NuPTxEAn3OR qf9pf+rKYXpZGUKv/dNnjDa2 =BoL8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.10 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: The Price List Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:19:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - From the way Richard's describing things, I think Dzirhan's original suggestion is best: get as much as possible for $100 each month, and list what we get so we can pick from that selection. It'll get awfully confusing trying to do this ahead of time with unknown 3-paks, etc...I trust Dzirhan to be honest with us and help us all out. Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNiJII8SNrCBK3ASDEQK81ACfQMxlPwqkkufd3MaA52vgfquLHgYAn1Zr LgvIUd9lAkmHzMrAZg53sCnz =CiFz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.11 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: G.I.J.L.F. (GI Joe Liberation Front) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:03:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 From: Timmer Auto Date: Saturday, October 10, 1998 10:18 AM >If we're gonna go with the plan to send >the stuff to Malaysia first ( to Dzirhan)I'm definately in! Yes, with Dzirhan onboard, it seems to be a workable thing to do Plan B. I'm in for Dzirhan's way...just lemme know what's available... Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNiJEWsSNrCBK3ASDEQIxlQCgtNKv+8oCYxThPjpMOcbiK8y1vHYAoKSM tl+dItViVEZUiMxUJ3/p4aBB =PLS5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.12 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: Questions for Larry Hama Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:10:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 From: John A Woods Date: Thursday, October 08, 1998 3:49 PM >Its possible that these questions have been asked >before but I might as well ask anyways and hope our >celebrity member will answer. Conor: Most of John's questions seem to be the standard ones newbies to the List ask when they find out Mr. Hama is here. Maybe you should include his answers as a part of the List FAQ (BTW, *IS* there a List FAQ?). Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNiI4D8SNrCBK3ASDEQLV+ACgr9ODHb2KBegQ2cgGgdhhhE2/pEUAnjpy K0VtJ02LcOexUbFuhgLEAugk =iGF1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.13 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: JOE Liberation Army .. JLA Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:22:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 6:14 AM > 2) However, I would have to say ( and partly due to prior >discussiond with Dzirhan before this was ever started ) >that it would be best to MASS SHIP the Joes to the US >anyways, to a contact person here . > I would be willing to do that , unless someone wants to >step forward. This is a good idea, Rocketeer...I'll trust you or anyone else on this list... Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee Desperate to increase his meager collection -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNiJI0MSNrCBK3ASDEQLGpQCg3S5vwV1cJekde/pSUH88OHn61UMAoM57 sUlxhJcUfWyV381ZKYcYJmQe =ibl3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.14 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: Let's liberate these Joes Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:59:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 From: le_saint1@hotmail.com Date: Saturday, October 10, 1998 5:54 AM >Possible solutions: >Plan A : The expensive Plan, get all the stuff on a fedex >10kg box and ship 'em to a distribution point > somewhere in the US. > Bad Side: fedex costs $90 *OUCH* Depending on how many people are in, that's *NOTHING*...I think I've seen a good nine people (including myself, as of now) saying they want stuff...that's $10 apiece...and if we get more people involved, it becomes less. >Good Side: It'll be there in 2 days. > the 90 bucks would probably split between all the > items in the box. Items vs. People...hmmm.... >Plan B : The Long Route Plan, fedex the stuff in a 10kg >or 25kg box to the nearest country with a dependable >postal system (e.g. Australia, or nearer ) and send it >thru normal shipping >Bad Side: finding a kind trustworthy soul to receive it >and re-ship it. still a little expensive bec of fedex. >Good Side: cheaper (I think) due to the shorter distance. > OR Find someone travelling to such a country and >ask the poor kind trustworthy soul to ship it from there. >Bad Side: Finding that poor kind trustworthy soul :) >Good Side: no more fedex....CHEAPER (duuuh...) >heheheh Both plan Bs are too dependent on "ifs"...I say plan A is the way to go... Could someone send me a good list of what's available and for how much? Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNiJDjMSNrCBK3ASDEQLlmgCeJlXXKQlg5tX6PgXHOfNZwFEEmYsAnj3B DyiulKGfJpXUdKTeFkcc/izF =5w96 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.15 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:10:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sounds good, Dzirhan... Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee - -----Original Message----- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir To: gijoe@lists.best.com Date: Saturday, October 10, 1998 6:24 PM Subject: PLEASE READ: JOE LIBERATION >Hi everyone, > >Just to add on to my earlier postings, the $100 I will send to Richard >does not include the Fedex costs which I will send also. This will be >worked into individual payments and divided according to the number of >people involved in this. The other thing is $100 might not go far in >obtaining the Joes so I suggest that to maximise things and to make sure >that everyone gets a chance of getting what they want, we start with >getting figures only first in November and vehicles later in December, >if anyone wants, I can hold the figs for posting with vehicles later if >you want to save on postage. If Richard can come up with a list of >whatever figures is available there and the prices for each item, then >we all have an idea of what available. At the start of November I will >post to the list calling for orders to be posted on the list and it will >be dealt with on a first come first served basis and to make things fair >for everyone the maximum total for each order will be $15 (if you have >more the excess will go to December's arrangements), that way at least >7 people can get their items. Those who don't get their chance in >November will be put immediately on the December list. My purchases will >be seperate from the $100 advance I'm putting up. I post the list of >required items to Richard and send the money and he sends them to me and >as earlier proposed I sort out the individual orders for postage. I will >have to warn everyone that in terms of payment to me there will be extra >charges but only for the packaging, the fedex postage and any bank fees >for banking in postal or money orders sent to me, I will not be making >any profit off this. I will probably be able to do this for as long as >everyone on the list wants it to go. What do you all think and Richard, >is this arrangement o.k with you? Thanks for the vote of confidence Ed. >I hope that we can all get this thing going in November. > >Dzirhan > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNiJGAcSNrCBK3ASDEQI9pACbB18efu5BT06R0er1j23NEV0tf5kAoIfU rA391DksAMRkgpzwAPlbinPL =S16k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.16 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: Re: warehouse access granted Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:41:30 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/12/98 2:40:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, calvinw@vcn.bc.ca writes: > From this posting, it seems that they might have some 1988 Joes, as you > said that you'll make a list form 1988 to 1994. If that were the case that > would be awesome. If all the figures are from certain years, maybe then, > we could each send to you (not the list so it doesn't get cluttered) our > want list and how many of each. If you have a list of what we want, you > could look for those when you go through the pile. > > Calvin > I say we all wait for his final list before the speculating... then, when we all get it, e-mail personally saying what we want... I also need some 88 stuff Matt --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.17 --------------- From: Scott Guthrie Subject: Re: JOE Liberation Army .. JLA Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:10:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have helped out with a bookstore in town. I checked and they'll let me use them for a recieving station. With this much coming in, wonder what customs paperwork would be needed? I think with people wanting a bit of this and a bit of that, things could get real strange. My idea would be to list everything and have a lottery or some other way to determine who get's what first. Maybe some thing on the Friday chat (If I get a Friday eve free.. maybe a separate one on a different eve, email the list out before hand. I've been involved with some chaotic boxes of books so I can guess what this will be like, Just lighter things and more fun :) Tech Mage At 11:22 AM 10/12/98 -0700, you wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com >Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 6:14 AM > > >> 2) However, I would have to say ( and partly due to prior >>discussiond with Dzirhan before this was ever started ) >>that it would be best to MASS SHIP the Joes to the US >>anyways, to a contact person here . >> I would be willing to do that , unless someone wants to >>step forward. > >This is a good idea, Rocketeer...I'll trust you or anyone else on this >list... > > >Adam Bernay >CODE NAME: Maccabee > >Desperate to increase his meager collection >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use > >iQA/AwUBNiJI0MSNrCBK3ASDEQLGpQCg3S5vwV1cJekde/pSUH88OHn61UMAoM57 >sUlxhJcUfWyV381ZKYcYJmQe >=ibl3 >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Scott Guthrie Electronic Technician Department of Physical Security 419-372-6953 sguthri@bgnet.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/offices/physplant/sec/ps-main.htm --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.18 --------------- From: Calvin Woo Subject: Re: JOE Liberation Army .. JLA Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:59:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810121912.MAA04368@lists1.best.com> I think we should see what there is first. Perhaps everyone could get a max of 1 or 2 of each item and they could get more if there's leftovers. Calvin On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Scott Guthrie wrote: > I have helped out with a bookstore in town. I checked and they'll let me use > them for a recieving station. With this much coming in, wonder what customs > paperwork would be needed? > > I think with people wanting a bit of this and a bit of that, things could > get real strange. My idea would be to list everything and have a lottery or > some other way to determine who get's what first. Maybe some thing on the > Friday chat (If I get a Friday eve free.. maybe a separate one on a > different eve, email the list out before hand. I've been involved with some > chaotic boxes of books so I can guess what this will be like, Just lighter > things and more fun :) > > Tech Mage > > At 11:22 AM 10/12/98 -0700, you wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com > >Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 6:14 AM > > > > > >> 2) However, I would have to say ( and partly due to prior > >>discussiond with Dzirhan before this was ever started ) > >>that it would be best to MASS SHIP the Joes to the US > >>anyways, to a contact person here . > >> I would be willing to do that , unless someone wants to > >>step forward. > > > >This is a good idea, Rocketeer...I'll trust you or anyone else on this > >list... > > > > > >Adam Bernay > >CODE NAME: Maccabee > > > >Desperate to increase his meager collection > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use > > > >iQA/AwUBNiJI0MSNrCBK3ASDEQLGpQCg3S5vwV1cJekde/pSUH88OHn61UMAoM57 > >sUlxhJcUfWyV381ZKYcYJmQe > >=ibl3 > >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > Scott Guthrie > Electronic Technician > Department of Physical Security > > 419-372-6953 > sguthri@bgnet.bgsu.edu > http://www.bgsu.edu/offices/physplant/sec/ps-main.htm > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.19 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: JOE Liberation Army .. JLA Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:21:52 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-12 16:10:58 EDT, you write: << I think we should see what there is first. Perhaps everyone could get a max of 1 or 2 of each item and they could get more if there's leftovers. >> I think first we should find out who's definitely in this, compile a list of JLA Members, then list everything they want, and compare that to what can actually be delivered. Richard need not be burdened by all this, we can do it ourselves. Then we can send him The Roster, and lists, and he can tell us how much of it he can fill. I also think that we should limit it all to one per customer for the first run, or until everyone has satisfied their initial order, *then* distribute the extras to anyone who wants. This will make it a bit easier, because if five people can only afford certain amount of stuff, they'll be sated first, and wont bog down the next shipment. So by the time the last shipments go out, it'll only be to one or two people who want a lot of doubles! Straight-Edge, this is my way of saying I'm in, for $200 worth of figures, and hopefully a Sharc 9000 with Razorblade. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.20 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Operation: Get Joes Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:56:55 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm in at this point and time! I know we are waiting for a list at this point and as such I won't reiterate my wants I think this is a wonderful chance for all to add to their collection and as such we all gain from it..... Steeler (clearing room in the Pit for the new arrivals) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.21 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: JLA Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:00:54 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/12/98 1:56:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, BespinRunt@aol.com writes: << compile a list of JLA Members >> Well, let's see....there's Aquaman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Martian Manhunter....um...i'm for geting someone...oh yeah! Superman! --DC Nut --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.22 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: JLA Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:31:20 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-12 17:22:54 EDT, you write: << << compile a list of JLA Members >> Well, let's see....there's Aquaman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Martian Manhunter....um...i'm for geting someone...oh yeah! Superman! >> Haha.. HAHAHAHAHAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH....... NO! ;-) Staight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.23 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: JLA Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:35:02 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Well, let's see....there's Aquaman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Martian Manhunter....um...i'm for geting someone...oh yeah! Superman! --DC Nut >> Hell, i forgot Batman! --No Short-Term Memory --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.24 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: Operation: Get Joes Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:35:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810122058.NAA27649@lists1.best.com> JSMosby61@aol.com wrote: > > I'm in at this point and time! Me too. > > I know we are waiting for a list at this point and as such I won't reiterate > my wants I'm waiting until there's a list of everything available to compile a want list. Even at $2 a piece, I'm not going to buy everything I need from 88 to 94, so I'll wait for the list, then pick and choose what I want most. I'll probably be getting a total of 50 figures, so "one of everything I don't have" is probably out of the question. > > I think this is a wonderful chance for all to add to their collection and as > such we all gain from it..... Exactly. > > Steeler (clearing room in the Pit for the new arrivals) -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.25 --------------- From: "man9" Subject: Re: JLA Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:45:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ><< compile a list of JLA Members >> > >Well, let's see....there's Aquaman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, The Flash, >Martian Manhunter....um...i'm for geting someone...oh yeah! Superman! Ha ha, I couldn't help but think of that. :D Shipwreck --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.26 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: JLA Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:58:11 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-12 17:56:48 EDT, you write: << << << compile a list of JLA Members >> Well, let's see....there's Aquaman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Martian Manhunter....um...i'm for geting someone...oh yeah! Superman! >> Haha.. HAHAHAHAHAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH....... NO! ;-) >> Lets put aside Batman, and the Aqua-dud... can we make up a *real* list of Joe Liberation Army members? Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.27 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Get Joes: READ EVERYONE Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 06:48:51 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810122058.NAA27649@lists1.best.com> <199810122138.OAA27607@lists1.best.com> Judging from all the postings coming out and at the risk of sounding like a dictator, I suggest everyone cool it with all the suggestions and inputs because inadvantantly you're all putting a big burden on Richard who's already, from his messages, got a lot to do. I know everyone is eager to get their hands on the joes but relax, you'll all get your chance as I'm sure Richard (I know I am) is willing to do this as long as it takes until everyone gets what they want. At the moment, three people have volunteered to handle the distribution, Rocketeer, Scott and myself, I suggest that once Richard has got his end sorted out, the four of us get together via e-mail to hammer some posting/payment arrangement out and we'll put it to the list. From my point of view, the wants list in a single initial order are starting to get rather large, just remember, a large order is bound to attract the attention of the custom service, particularly in my country and I might have a hell of a time explaining about a shipment of a 100 joes as a gift. Again I have to point out the fact that we can carry out whatever arrangements for as long as Richard is willing to go down to the warehouse to get the joes for us. I really suggest that we give Richard some breathing space to sort out from his end, I'm already starting to get confused with all the messages relating to this and I don't have to do anything yet, so imagine what it's like for Richard, who's already lost his wallet in doing this favour for us. So please everyone hold your suggestions on this until Richard is good to go for us. Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.28 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Get Joes: READ EVERYONE Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:59:49 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit :-X Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.29 --------------- From: Zzarana@aol.com Subject: Am I alone??? Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:19:29 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am I the only one who is a little uneasy about this whole "great Find"??? Isn't it a little too convient to find a warehouse full of great toys that everybody wants?? I am not trying to put anyone down, or call anyone a thief but there is just something about it. I am not trying to tell anyone to do, if YOU want to pay and send your money go ahead, but just have it in the back of your mind. Zz --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n707.30 --------------- From: Ed Dam Subject: Re: Get Joes: READ EVERYONE Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:37:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810122058.NAA27649@lists1.best.com> <199810122138.OAA27607@lists1.best.com> <199810122242.PAA17448@lists1.best.com> I don't know how many Canadians on the list want to be a part of this, but I am willing to act like a "Canadian Distributor". I live within 45 min of the US (NY) border, and if there is someone who lives near Buffalo or the area I can drive there to pick up whatever Canadian orders there are, then ship them from within Canada (cheaper) Just a thought, that's all... Ed Dzirhan Mahadzir wrote: > Judging from all the postings coming out and at the risk of sounding > like a dictator, I suggest everyone cool it with all the suggestions and > inputs because inadvantantly you're all putting a big burden on Richard > who's already, from his messages, got a lot to do. I know everyone is > eager to get their hands on the joes but relax, you'll all get your > chance as I'm sure Richard (I know I am) is willing to do this as long > as it takes until everyone gets what they want. At the moment, three > people have volunteered to handle the distribution, Rocketeer, Scott and > myself, I suggest that once Richard has got his end sorted out, the four > of us get together via e-mail to hammer some posting/payment arrangement > out and we'll put it to the list. From my point of view, the wants list > in a single initial order are starting to get rather large, just > remember, a large order is bound to attract the attention of the custom > service, particularly in my country and I might have a hell of a time > explaining about a shipment of a 100 joes as a gift. Again I have to > point out the fact that we can carry out whatever arrangements for as > long as Richard is willing to go down to the warehouse to get the joes > for us. I really suggest that we give Richard some breathing space to > sort out from his end, I'm already starting to get confused with all the > messages relating to this and I don't have to do anything yet, so > imagine what it's like for Richard, who's already lost his wallet in > doing this favour for us. So please everyone hold your suggestions on > this until Richard is good to go for us. > > Dzirhan -- http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/tripcock/45/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/minstrel.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/titanic.html "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house" Ed Dam damed@iaw.on.ca --------------- END gijoe.v001.n707 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n708 -------------- 001 - Calvin Woo Subject: Re: Operation: Get Joes Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:02:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810122058.NAA27649@lists1.best.com> Same here Calvin On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 JSMosby61@aol.com wrote: > I'm in at this point and time! > > I know we are waiting for a list at this point and as such I won't reiterate > my wants > > I think this is a wonderful chance for all to add to their collection and as > such we all gain from it..... > > Steeler (clearing room in the Pit for the new arrivals) > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.2 --------------- From: SNARF5181@aol.com Subject: Re: Operation: Get Joes Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:24:26 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, I'm also definitely in I'm looking to get a lot of cheap figs, not really any vehicles but I'll wait for a list before I decide how much I'm willing to spend. Also, I am usually not around during the Friday chats so if were going to decide stuff then (I read someone mention discussing everything during a chat) is it possible to change the day for that chat? -----Snarf --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.3 --------------- From: SNARF5181@aol.com Subject: Re: JLA Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:26:03 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/12/98 5:22:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BADSCNAME@aol.com writes: << Well, let's see....there's Aquaman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Martian Manhunter....um...i'm for geting someone...oh yeah! Superman! --DC Nut >> Its okay, you can leave superman out. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.4 --------------- From: Calvin Woo Subject: Re: Get Joes: READ EVERYONE Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:35:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199810122350.QAA09190@lists1.best.com> Thanks for the offer Ed. I live on the west coast and this would really help me. I live in Vancouver, BC. Anyone else on list live around here? Calvin On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Ed Dam wrote: > I don't know how many Canadians on the list want to be a part of this, but > I am willing to act like a "Canadian Distributor". I live within 45 min of > the US (NY) border, and if there is someone who lives near Buffalo or the > area I can drive there to pick up whatever Canadian orders there are, then > ship them from within Canada (cheaper) > Just a thought, that's all... > > Ed > > Dzirhan Mahadzir wrote: > > > Judging from all the postings coming out and at the risk of sounding > > like a dictator, I suggest everyone cool it with all the suggestions and > > inputs because inadvantantly you're all putting a big burden on Richard > > who's already, from his messages, got a lot to do. I know everyone is > > eager to get their hands on the joes but relax, you'll all get your > > chance as I'm sure Richard (I know I am) is willing to do this as long > > as it takes until everyone gets what they want. At the moment, three > > people have volunteered to handle the distribution, Rocketeer, Scott and > > myself, I suggest that once Richard has got his end sorted out, the four > > of us get together via e-mail to hammer some posting/payment arrangement > > out and we'll put it to the list. From my point of view, the wants list > > in a single initial order are starting to get rather large, just > > remember, a large order is bound to attract the attention of the custom > > service, particularly in my country and I might have a hell of a time > > explaining about a shipment of a 100 joes as a gift. Again I have to > > point out the fact that we can carry out whatever arrangements for as > > long as Richard is willing to go down to the warehouse to get the joes > > for us. I really suggest that we give Richard some breathing space to > > sort out from his end, I'm already starting to get confused with all the > > messages relating to this and I don't have to do anything yet, so > > imagine what it's like for Richard, who's already lost his wallet in > > doing this favour for us. So please everyone hold your suggestions on > > this until Richard is good to go for us. > > > > Dzirhan > > > > -- > http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/tripcock/45/ > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/ > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/minstrel.html > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html > http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/titanic.html > > > > "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house" > > Ed Dam damed@iaw.on.ca > > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.5 --------------- From: Peboy@aol.com Subject: Re: Am I alone??? Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:13:56 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've got a bridge in new york to sell you --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.6 --------------- From: "Gary W. DeVoe" Subject: Joe RPG Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:20:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yo Joes: I want to apologize to the players (EEJ, Rod, Andy et al) for my tardiness and short visit last night at the RPG. My evening did not go the way I had planned it, and while I got everything accomplished, I didn't have much time to devote to the game. I am sorry. Can I still come over and play? -Triage/Doc----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.7 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Am I alone??? Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:26:37 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is why if/when i make an order outta this warehouse, i'll only spend about $20 or $30 bucks. I can handle losing that :) I really don't think you will insult someone by bringing this point up, since it's a very good point! --Wash&Wear --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.8 --------------- From: Pawsha@aol.com Subject: Re: Am I alone??? Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:35:36 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-12 21:13:07 EDT, you write: > Am I the only one who is a little uneasy about this whole "great Find"??? > Isn't it a little too convient to find a warehouse full of great toys that > everybody wants?? I am not trying to put anyone down, or call anyone a > thief > but there is just something about it. I am not trying to tell anyone to do, > if YOU want to pay and send your money go ahead, but just have it in the > back > of your mind. > Your not alone. I feel this is wierd. All the sudden the list is CLUTTERED with posts about this. I don't see what's great anyways, since it's just Eco- Warriors, and figures everyone complains and says they shouldn't have been made. And you can find Mint in card of these at almost any toy show. Like Zzarana, I'm not trying to insult anyone. Josh --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.9 --------------- From: Veritech1A@webtv.net (Rod Stuberg) Subject: Checking In Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:52:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Hello. I just thought I'd de-lurk. I'm Rod. I used to be on this list as Budo, and now reclaim that name (hopefully). I'll have to agree that the warehouse sounds fishy. A Cobra plot? (j/k) And what is this about an RPG? I'll join it! Budo --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.10 --------------- From: GITrekker@aol.com Subject: Re: Am I alone? Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:39:35 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Zarana posted: <> Not really. You'd be amazed at what turns up. Several years ago, Kenner discovered a load of original Star Wars figures. Sold 'em to a collector. Somewhat more recently, they came across a whole batch of G.I.Joe mail order figures and vehicles and dumped 'em on a discount store that was in the same general area as the warehouse. People were picking up vehicles for a buck. Stuff gets lost in warehouses all the time. This one isn't that surprising. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.11 --------------- From: "Sigi Goode (The Funk Phenomenon)" Subject: The Warehouse Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:03:41 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810130342.UAA06980@lists1.best.com> Hi all, All this talk reminds me of that bit in a film (don't remember which), which talks about this mythical warehouse somewhere in the US which contains crates and crates of Harley motorcycles that were going to be shipped to Europe for the War but never were. Just imagine if there was a warehouse on the outskirts of your town that was full to the brim with Joe stuff...the first few crates you open may just contain the newer items (perhaps a few BUGGS, Lunartix). The next day, you go back and open up some more crates towards the back of the warehouse - those ones are full of 85-88 characters, perhaps a Flagg, maybe a HAVOC or two. Finally you get right to the end...you've made your collection complete several times over, you've even found a few foreign-only figures. Sigh. Sigi ---------- http://sigi.home.ml.org Information Systems Lecturer Commerce Department Australian National University, Canberra, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.12 --------------- From: "Sam Fain" Subject: Dream Cast Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:42:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BDF64A.BB07B820" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BDF64A.BB07B820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay, I know we've been over possible casts and who we'd like to see = in certain roles, but this time it's different. If you could use ANY = actor or actress, young or old, dead or alive, past or present who would = they be. Here's my view on it:(BTW, again this is DREAM cast, no = budget, no nothing, anyone is fair game, anyone!) =20 General Hawk: Charlton Heston (Adam Bernay mentioned this a few = times and it just grew on me) I'd say a 1968 Heston would fit the part = well. Cobra Commander:Gary Oldman or John de Lancie Duke: Steve McQueen circa 1964 Destro: Sean Connery circa 1965 Flint: Douglas Fairbanks Sr. sans mustache circa 1915 or Harrison = Ford circa 1977 Baroness: Diana Rigg circa 1966 Lady Jaye: Ali McGraw circa 1974 Zartan: Lon Chaney Sr. hell you'd think the man was Zartan! circa = 1929 or Dwight Schultz(suggested by Adam, I think, and a good choice) Snake-Eyes: Michael Dudikoff still seems the choice here. Storm Shadow: Jet Li, he's young but would spend most of his time = under a mask, or Sonny Chiba circa 1971 Scarlett: Maureen O'Hara circa 1958 okay so she'd have to take = Martial Arts but again it's a dream! Or Claudia Christian Firefly: Still gotta go with Chow Yun-Fat =20 Cover Girl: Louise Jameson Leela from Doctor Who, the Tom Baker era = cira 1978, she'd have to drop her English accent and dye her hair a = shade lighter, but she'd be great. Doctor Mindbender: Vincent Price, circa 1960, a perfect mad = scientist! Jinx: Michelle Yeoh Major Bludd: Alec Guiness circa 1950 Falcon: Bruce Boxlietner circa 1984 Roadblock: James Earl Jones circa 1960 or the guy that plays Shaft, = I'll be damned if I can think of his name right now! Stalker: Louis Gossett Jr. or Morgan Freeman. =20 And these two for fun, not that I wouldn't want them in the film just = thought these would be a bit funnier than the rest: Quick-Kick: Bruce Lee, what you thought he was based on someone = else! Tunnel Rat: Larry Hama circa 1980 :-) okay let's see what everyone else has got, or just forget I posted it if = everyone's sick to death of movie chat :-) Sam "Shade" Fain =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BDF64A.BB07B820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Okay, I=20 know we've been over possible casts and who we'd like to see in certain = roles,=20 but this time it's different.  If you could use ANY actor or = actress, young=20 or old, dead or alive, past or present who would they be.  Here's = my view=20 on it:(BTW, again this is DREAM cast, no budget, no nothing, anyone is = fair=20 game, anyone!)
   =20
    General=20 Hawk: Charlton Heston (Adam Bernay mentioned this a few times and it = just grew=20 on me) I'd say a 1968 Heston would fit the part = well.
    Cobra=20 Commander:Gary Oldman or John de Lancie
    Duke:=20 Steve McQueen circa 1964
    Destro:=20 Sean Connery circa 1965
    Flint:=20 Douglas Fairbanks Sr. sans mustache circa 1915 or Harrison Ford circa=20 1977
    Baroness:=20 Diana Rigg circa 1966
    Lady=20 Jaye: Ali McGraw circa 1974
    = Zartan: Lon Chaney=20 Sr.  hell you'd think the man was Zartan! circa 1929 or Dwight=20 Schultz(suggested by Adam, I think, and a good = choice)
   =20 Snake-Eyes: Michael Dudikoff still seems the choice = here.
    Storm=20 Shadow: Jet Li, he's young but would spend most of his time under a = mask, or=20 Sonny Chiba circa 1971
    Scarlett:=20 Maureen O'Hara circa 1958 okay so she'd have to take Martial Arts but = again it's=20 a dream!  Or Claudia Christian
    Firefly:=20 Still gotta go with Chow Yun-Fat   
   Cover=20 Girl:  Louise Jameson Leela from Doctor Who, the Tom Baker era cira = 1978,=20 she'd have to drop her English accent and dye her hair a shade lighter, = but=20 she'd be great.
    Doctor = Mindbender: Vincent=20 Price, circa 1960, a perfect mad scientist!
    Jinx: Michelle=20 Yeoh
    Major Bludd: Alec = Guiness=20 circa 1950
    Falcon: Bruce = Boxlietner=20 circa 1984
    Roadblock: James = Earl Jones=20 circa 1960 or the guy that plays Shaft, I'll be damned if I can think of = his=20 name right now!
    Stalker: Louis = Gossett Jr. or=20 Morgan Freeman.
   
And these two = for fun, not=20 that I wouldn't want them in the film just thought these would be a bit = funnier=20 than the rest:
   =20 Quick-Kick: Bruce Lee, what you thought he was based on someone=20 else!
    Tunnel Rat: Larry = Hama circa=20 1980 :-)
okay let's see = what everyone=20 else has got, or just forget I posted it if everyone's sick to death of = movie=20 chat :-)
    Sam=20 "Shade" Fain
   =20
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BDF64A.BB07B820-- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.13 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Questions for Larry Hama Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:09:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:10 AM 10/12/98 -0700, you wrote: >Conor: > Most of John's questions seem to be the standard ones newbies to >the List ask when they find out Mr. Hama is here. Maybe you should >include his answers as a part of the List FAQ (BTW, *IS* there a List >FAQ?). Well I asked those questions because they had been touched on lightly in a few interviews and occasionally in the comic's letter page but I've never seen a defintative list of what Larry Hama would of kept out of the comic if he had a choice. I think the real question is: IS there are GI Joe comic FAQ? -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.14 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Am I alone? Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:09:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:39 PM 10/12/98 EDT, you wrote: >Not really. You'd be amazed at what turns up. Several years ago, Kenner >discovered a load of original Star Wars figures. Sold 'em to a collector. >Somewhat more recently, they came across a whole batch of G.I.Joe mail order >figures and vehicles and dumped 'em on a discount store that was in the same >general area as the warehouse. People were picking up vehicles for a buck. >Stuff gets lost in warehouses all the time. This one isn't that surprising. This past year their was a warehouse find of Return of the Jedi figures MOC, most were not in perfect shape but they did exist. Also places like the Philipines and other 3rd word countries are often the dumping grounds for failed toylines and fads of the U.S.A., like the last year of GI Joe. So its not too hard to believe such a find, now if these were mid 80s toys then I would wonder. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.15 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: warehouse access granted Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:09:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well Richard there is one thing you could do instead of sending these mass shipments and that is treat it as simple trade bait. Trade the things for the 98 figures or whatever someone will offer and don't worry about cataloging 100s of figures and explaining to customs what all these toys are for. From what you've described I only want the 30th anniversary figures, I'm in Canada so I can get the 98 lineup now or at least very soon. I've got references, you've got references. So let's make a deal? Doing a few little deals will be a lot easier for you to manage. I think most people here are only interested in getting tons of these things if they are cheap. If you take into account that these things are going to be shipped several times and there will almost definatly be customs charges, these figures might not endup being quite so cheap. Especially when you consider the hidden cost of YOUR TIME. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.16 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: warehouse access granted Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:27:08 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810130610.XAA14216@lists1.best.com> John A Woods wrote: > > Well Richard there is one thing you could do instead of sending these mass > shipments and that is treat it as simple trade bait. Trade the things for > the 98 figures or whatever someone will offer and don't worry about > cataloging 100s of figures and explaining to customs what all these toys are > for. From what you've described I only want the 30th anniversary figures, > I'm in Canada so I can get the 98 lineup now or at least very soon. I've got > references, you've got references. So let's make a deal? Doing a few little > deals will be a lot easier for you to manage. > > -John Sorry if I'm jumping in but Richard's earlier posting on this matter stated that his post service is not very reliable hence his reluctance to engage in trades. Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.17 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: Am I alone? Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:43:58 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810130342.UAA06980@lists1.best.com> GITrekker@aol.com wrote: > > Not really. You'd be amazed at what turns up. Several years ago, Kenner > discovered a load of original Star Wars figures. Sold 'em to a collector. > Somewhat more recently, they came across a whole batch of G.I.Joe mail order > figures and vehicles and dumped 'em on a discount store that was in the same > general area as the warehouse. People were picking up vehicles for a buck. > Stuff gets lost in warehouses all the time. This one isn't that surprising. I agree with Thomas, stuff turns up all the while in all sorts of places, I went to a TRU here sometime last year and came across a several Battle Corps figs on the shelves and I was at that same TRU a week earlier and they had not had them on the shelves. I wouldn't be suprised if somewhere here in Malaysia there is also a warehouse full of joes. Warehouses are like attics or storerooms for companies, stuff that the company can't sell is dumped in there and normally forgotten until the company decides to clear the warehouse. As for the list being cluttered up, it is a problem which is why I've mentioned in an earlier posting (and so has Richard) asking everyone to cool their jets on this, alternately for those not interested, you could always just delete postings with headings on the subject. The other thing is that I do think everyone here who is interested in the joes are aware of what they're getting into. No offence to anyone on my messages but this is starting to get out of hand and some of the postings here have overlooked earlier postings on the matter and are confusing the issues. Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.18 --------------- From: Joseph Smith Subject: Hi, Guys! Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 7:03:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit don”t know if any of you beautiful people remember me, but I was a pretty steady poster in Mississippi and I moved to Atlanta in November. I am the former Military Police Officer who served in Desert Storm. I have just now gotten back on the list since moving. And, boy, did I miss everyone! I took one look at the list and thought well, the first the first thing I thought was •who started up the live action movie thread again?"– but after that, I saw several familiar names, post subjects that I instantly recognized, and I knew, I was home. Sorry, didn”t mean to get emotional. I was almost this emotional when the Grand Slam bio was posted on the GI Joe comics page. Joey Smith Code name: Smitty Age: 26 Military Service: Army National Guard (resigned in November after eight years service) 1st Figure: Straight-Arm Flash, 1982 (long since gone, but I”ve reacquired one) Favorite Joe figure: Dusty 1 Favorite Cobra fig.: Firefly 1 Favorite comic Joe: Wild Bill Favorite comic Cobra: Baroness Most underused Joe: Hit-N-Run/Grand Slam Claim to fame: Oktober Guard customs on Yojoe.com Hey! Is Simona still around? Um, yo joe. Joey Smith (Smitty) ***************************************************** From: Joseph Smith Walk Thru the Bible Ministries Tel: 770-451-9300 (Local) 1-800-868-9300 (Inside US) Fax: 770-454-9313 E-mail Address: jsmith@walkthru.org Home Page: http://www.walkthru.org For more information via email send a blank email to: info@walkthru.org ***************************************************** --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.19 --------------- From: Joseph Smith Subject: warehouse access granted Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 7:33:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You know what I would really like? A PHOTOGRAPH of this warehouse posted on someone's site. I mean, who hasn't wanted to come upon a treasure of old forgotten Joes. I'm imagining wading up too my knees in hundreds of different MOC figures. Who *knows* the treasures that could lurk just beneath your knees? Joey "Smitty" Smith ***************************************************** From: Joseph Smith Walk Thru the Bible Ministries Tel: 770-451-9300 (Local) 1-800-868-9300 (Inside US) Fax: 770-454-9313 E-mail Address: jsmith@walkthru.org Home Page: http://www.walkthru.org For more information via email send a blank email to: info@walkthru.org ***************************************************** --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.20 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Am I alone??? Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 06:52:09 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 10/12/98 21:13:56 you wrote: > >I've got a bridge in new york to sell you > > How MUCH ?!?!?! ( I allways wanted my own bridge ) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.21 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: off topic help Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 06:58:47 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="" Yo Joes, This has nothing to do with Joes but I know some guys on here can help me out. 1) I am looking for info on the mcDonalds Beast Wars Transformers - anyone have a list, pics, etc. - or point me to a site ? I know there are TF fans on here so that's why I ask. 2) I recently bought a small horde ( ~ 8 ) of old cortoon tapes ( sealed ) including a few Joe tapes, Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors, a He Man, etc. There is one I do not recognize - it is a " Macron 1: dark Stars Revenge". Copywrite 1986 by SABAN. Anyone remember this ? Is it one of the ones that was ' mashed' into Robotech or what ? ( it is a ' giant robot' storyline- did not open / watch it yet. Just curious , anyone with info on these LMK. THANKS. Al / rocketeer Http://www.netcom.com/~rktmoose/smlist.html --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.22 --------------- From: Joseph Smith Subject: Obsessive Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 8:17:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm probably the most obsessive-compulsive member of the list, but I do have a question and I was wondering if it bothered anybody like it bothers me. What if, while they are making all the re-releases, they rerelease figures like Doc, Crankcase, Heavy Metal, Quick-Kick, etc? They are dead, as you recall. I know Breaker was killed off in the comics and released in the S&S assortment, but for some reason (probably due to the fact that it resembles Breaker not in the least) that doesn't really bother me. Will anybody here have a hard time buying, say, a three pack with Sneak-Peak, Doc, and Crazy Legs, knowing that in the comics they were all killed off? I mean, how would your other figures feel being displayed next to a bunch of dead guys? What, your figures don't talk to you? Joey "Smitty" Smith (Probably revealing too much about his anal nature) ***************************************************** From: Joseph Smith Walk Thru the Bible Ministries Tel: 770-451-9300 (Local) 1-800-868-9300 (Inside US) Fax: 770-454-9313 E-mail Address: jsmith@walkthru.org Home Page: http://www.walkthru.org For more information via email send a blank email to: info@walkthru.org ***************************************************** --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.23 --------------- From: "Daniel C. Carber" Subject: Re: Operation: Get Joes Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:56:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810130026.RAA02858@lists1.best.com> At 08:24 PM 10/12/98 -0400, you wrote: >Yeah, I'm also definitely in >I'm looking to get a lot of cheap figs, not really any vehicles but I'll wait >for a list before I decide how much I'm willing to spend. >Also, I am usually not around during the Friday chats so if were going to >decide stuff then (I read someone mention discussing everything during a chat) >is it possible to change the day for that chat? I would like to mention, that I would like to get in on the deal too. I won't go overboard on the orders though, that way everyone can get at least one of the figures they want. dan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Daniel C. Carber dcarber@stonehill.edu Lead Systems Administrator 508-565-1524 Department of Academic Technology Resources Stonehill College North Easton, MA 02357-4018 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.24 --------------- From: "Daniel C. Carber" Subject: Re: Am I alone??? Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:55:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810122322.QAA19375@lists1.best.com> At 07:19 PM 10/12/98 -0400, you wrote: >Am I the only one who is a little uneasy about this whole "great Find"??? >Isn't it a little too convient to find a warehouse full of great toys that >everybody wants?? I am not trying to put anyone down, or call anyone a thief >but there is just something about it. I am not trying to tell anyone to do, >if YOU want to pay and send your money go ahead, but just have it in the back >of your mind. No, I believe it. My wife & inlaws tell me how the Phillipines get all kinds of overstock on a lot of different things, especially toys. I guess people aren't too interested in them, and not only that there is a significant level of poverty too. Plus, up until a few years ago (i think it was 92, 93 or something) there was an American Air Force base over there, but it was destroyed by a volcano or storm or something. Anyway, if it were Canada i'd be leery, but even 3 years ago I went to a warehouse store in NJ and they had TONS of the Battleforce 2k and tiger force figures for sale, 4 for $10, and double carded battleforce 3 for $10. Note, this was only THREE MONTHS before I got back into collecting joes, and when I went back for them they were gone. Besides, if it were a con job, they would be taking orders and cash left & right. dan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Daniel C. Carber dcarber@stonehill.edu Lead Systems Administrator 508-565-1524 Department of Academic Technology Resources Stonehill College North Easton, MA 02357-4018 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.25 --------------- From: Corey & Angela Stinson Subject: Re: warehouse access granted Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:05:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <199810130610.XAA14216@lists1.best.com> In-Reply-To: <199810131022.DAA17667@lists1.best.com> At 06:27 PM 10/13/98 +0700, you wrote: >John A Woods wrote: >> >> Well Richard there is one thing you could do instead of sending these mass >> shipments and that is treat it as simple trade bait. Trade the things for >> the 98 figures or whatever someone will offer and don't worry about >> cataloging 100s of figures and explaining to customs what all these toys are >> for. From what you've described I only want the 30th anniversary figures, >> I'm in Canada so I can get the 98 lineup now or at least very soon. I've got >> references, you've got references. So let's make a deal? Doing a few little >> deals will be a lot easier for you to manage. >> >> -John > >Sorry if I'm jumping in but Richard's earlier posting on this matter >stated that his post service is not very reliable hence his reluctance >to engage in trades. > >Dzirhan I can confirm these problems with the postal service in the Phillips, as I have tried to send things there before and they never arrived. I have yet to have that problem anywhere else in the world *knock on wood* -- _________________________________________________________________________ // Corey Stinson || stinson@anet-stl.com \\ \\ Systems Programmer || corey@masterclock.com // // Real-Time Applications & Embedded Systems || \\ \\ GUI Application Development || // // World Wide Web & CGI Development || \\ \\ C/C++/Visual C++ (MFC)/Assembler || // // DOS/Windows 3.x '95 NT/Netware/Un*x || \\ \\ ------------------------------------------++----------------------------// // No Love Stronger / No Pain Greater / No Hate Deeper / The Church Within \\ \\____- The Obsessed ______________________________________________________// --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.26 --------------- From: le_saint1@hotmail.com Subject: total # Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:21:10 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi again. couldn't go to the warehouse yet bec of the weather, typhoon coming in. but I did talk to them. 1) Boat Shipment = The last time I did this, it took 6 Months or more to send something to Canada. And the shipment got looted too. Registered mail from Malaysia will take 'round 2-3 months. 2) >>>Maybe try to get a total # of figs and such and see if they'll give you a total price. --30,000 figures from 1993/1994. yup, read my email, THIRTY-THOUSAND Figures. --unknown number of Pre-1993 figures. estimated to number in the hundreds. (Pray that a lot of LNF Tripwires are included) ........oh, and they got transformers, too. (that's off-topic) 3) Figure Rationing/Quota = ONLY with rare ones ;) 4) Customs = forgot about this. Dzirhan is right. Try putting a limit per shipment per month to avoid the worse. I'm not sure how you all want it done. 1 guy at a time or a small number from everyone... 5) Thanks very much, Dzirhan. Let me try to get a working list of availability first and finalise an agreement with the store. They require that we must order a minimum net worth of US$150 to allow direct buying. YES, we will get freebies. I'm working on that. Let's not count our LNF Tripwires until it's carded ;) ..maybe the suggestions could be placed in a digest for later studying...heheheeh 6) >>>From: Zzarana@aol.com Subject: Am I alone??? I have not been victimised by any online deal (and I don't plan to start). I will reveal my trade referrence to any who ask (please respect his privacy) and I plan to post a picture of the stocks to prove that they exist, assuming they will allow this. It's wiser to wait and examine the pics I'll be posting and make your own judgement whether to join in. Convenient, but True. This little endeavour is very vulnerable to someone running off with everyone's money which is why I suggested that we take this very slow, to tie up loose ends, seeing that there is a LOT to LOSE. I further suggest that we do a "trial run". Test the waters. An advantage of fedex is that you can trace it online to verify the shipment was sent and where it is. ---------Good Luck All ---Richard so sorry if I'm taking up list "space" :( --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.27 --------------- From: Dzirhan Mahadzir Subject: Re: total # Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:49:21 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810131322.GAA29522@lists1.best.com> le_saint1@hotmail.com wrote: > Registered mail from Malaysia will take 'round 2-3 months. Only if you go by boat, priority mail which is recorded similar to registered mail takes less than a week and oddly the heavier the package gets, becomes more cheaper than registered airmail which takes 1-2 weeks to arrive, go figure! Incidentally my rough estimation for a priority mail shipment from here for a box (size of 3 A-10 boxes) is around $30 - $40 (based on my trades), but this is only a rough estimation, if you shipped by boat, it'll cost a measly $10 - $20. Dzirhan --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.28 --------------- From: Scott Guthrie Subject: Re: total # / Off topic Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:50:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" TRANSFORMERS???? Can you email me about this? I have some friends and maybe we can get something going also. If they'll sell direct, we could do some ordering for those. >........oh, and they got transformers, too. (that's off-topic) >5) Thanks very much, Dzirhan. Let me try to get a working list of availability first and finalise an agreement >with the store. They require that we must order a minimum net worth of US$150 to allow direct buying. YES, >we will get freebies. I'm working on that. Let's not count our LNF Tripwires until it's carded ;) >..maybe the suggestions could be placed in a digest for later studying...heheheeh >suggest that we do a "trial run". Test the waters. An advantage of fedex is that you can trace it online to verify >the shipment was sent and where it is. ---------Good Luck All ---Richard >so sorry if I'm taking up list "space" :( > Scott Guthrie Electronic Technician Department of Physical Security 419-372-6953 sguthri@bgnet.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/offices/physplant/sec/ps-main.htm --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.29 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Re: Hi, Guys! Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:09:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---Joseph Smith wrote: > > Sorry, didn”t mean to get emotional. I was almost this emotional when the Grand Slam bio was posted on the GI Joe comics page. > Favorite comic Joe: Wild Bill I'm glad you liked Grand Slam's bio! Seeing who your favorite character is, you'll be happy to know there's a Wild Bill bio on my site now, too! Sorry for that little ad... I probably should have sent that via personal e-mail. Oh well. James McFadden of JMM's G.I. Joe Comics Home Page at: http://www.gis.net/~mcfadden/jmm/gihome.html _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n708.30 --------------- From: Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com Subject: JLA/etc Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:07:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline DC Nut with No Short-Term Memory mentioned: >> Well, let's see....there's Aquaman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, The Flash, >> Martian Manhunter....um...i'm for geting someone...oh yeah! Superman! >> Hell, i forgot Batman! (kj) actually, they've increased the lineup quite a bit in the past year. It now also includes Steel, Zauriel, The Huntress, Plastic Man, Orion, and Big Barda... though they are certainly the 'second tier'... (kj) two shipping questions/comments. One, would it be of any benefit to ship the figures from the warehouse in the shipping boxes they're currently sitting in, then just sorting them stateside? Second, I'm only a couple hours away from BG ('97 grad) so could possibly swing over to assist Scott with logistics if necessary, whenever that rolls around. -Kj, just sent away for his BGSU credit card. --------------- END gijoe.v001.n708 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n709 -------------- 001 - BADSCNAME@aol.com - Re: total # 002 - Veritech1A@webtv.net (Rod - Re: Obsessive 003 - Veritech1A@webtv.net (Rod - Re: off topic help 004 - Rod Pellegrini > Well ya better make that _ON_topic before some of us collectors' heads explode! JLA: Special Missions, perhaps? Could be a good idear. --Cliffjumper --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.2 --------------- From: Veritech1A@webtv.net (Rod Stuberg) Subject: Re: Obsessive Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:29:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary=WebTV-Mail-1826753981-77 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit --WebTV-Mail-1826753981-77 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I'd buy Quick Kick and the rest if they were re-released. I have only read a few of the comics, and not the one that half the Joes are killed. The comics don't affect my buying power. Budo --WebTV-Mail-1826753981-77 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net [207.79.35.92]) by postoffice-221.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/po.gso.24Feb98) with ESMTP id FAA04882; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 05:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists1.best.com (lists1.best.com [206.86.8.15]) by mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id FAA28546; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 05:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists1.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.ls) id FAA00834; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 05:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810131208.FAA00834@lists1.best.com> From: Joseph Smith Subject: Obsessive Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 8:17:56 -0500 BestServHost: lists.best.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gijoe-errors@lists.best.com Errors-To: gijoe-errors@lists.best.com Reply-To: gijoe@lists.best.com To: gijoe@lists.best.com I'm probably the most obsessive-compulsive member of the list, but I do have a question and I was wondering if it bothered anybody like it bothers me. What if, while they are making all the re-releases, they rerelease figures like Doc, Crankcase, Heavy Metal, Quick-Kick, etc? They are dead, as you recall. I know Breaker was killed off in the comics and released in the S&S assortment, but for some reason (probably due to the fact that it resembles Breaker not in the least) that doesn't really bother me. Will anybody here have a hard time buying, say, a three pack with Sneak-Peak, Doc, and Crazy Legs, knowing that in the comics they were all killed off? I mean, how would your other figures feel being displayed next to a bunch of dead guys? What, your figures don't talk to you? Joey "Smitty" Smith (Probably revealing too much about his anal nature) ***************************************************** From: Joseph Smith Walk Thru the Bible Ministries Tel: 770-451-9300 (Local) 1-800-868-9300 (Inside US) Fax: 770-454-9313 E-mail Address: jsmith@walkthru.org Home Page: http://www.walkthru.org For more information via email send a blank email to: info@walkthru.org ***************************************************** --WebTV-Mail-1826753981-77-- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.3 --------------- From: Veritech1A@webtv.net (Rod Stuberg) Subject: Re: off topic help Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:44:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary=WebTV-Mail-2072434245-770 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit --WebTV-Mail-2072434245-770 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Macron 1 is NOT one of the series that is part of Robotech. (You are thinking of Macross.) Macron 1 is the worst kid anime I have seen. Don't ever compare the two (I love Robotech). Budo --WebTV-Mail-2072434245-770 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net [207.79.35.92]) by postoffice-221.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/po.gso.24Feb98) with ESMTP id FAA02964; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 05:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists1.best.com (lists1.best.com [206.86.8.15]) by mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id FAA18054; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 05:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists1.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.ls) id FAA27673; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 05:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810131200.FAA27673@lists1.best.com> From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: off topic help Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 06:58:47 -0500 (CDT) BestServHost: lists.best.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="" Sender: gijoe-errors@lists.best.com Errors-To: gijoe-errors@lists.best.com Reply-To: gijoe@lists.best.com To: gijoe@lists.best.com Yo Joes, This has nothing to do with Joes but I know some guys on here can help me out. 1) I am looking for info on the mcDonalds Beast Wars Transformers - anyone have a list, pics, etc. - or point me to a site ? I know there are TF fans on here so that's why I ask. 2) I recently bought a small horde ( ~ 8 ) of old cortoon tapes ( sealed ) including a few Joe tapes, Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors, a He Man, etc. There is one I do not recognize - it is a " Macron 1: dark Stars Revenge". Copywrite 1986 by SABAN. Anyone remember this ? Is it one of the ones that was ' mashed' into Robotech or what ? ( it is a ' giant robot' storyline- did not open / watch it yet. Just curious , anyone with info on these LMK. THANKS. Al / rocketeer Http://www.netcom.com/~rktmoose/smlist.html --WebTV-Mail-2072434245-770-- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.4 --------------- From: Rod Pellegrini Subject: Re: JLA Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:51:21 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: SNARF5181@aol.com Subject: Re: JLA Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:26:03 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<<< In a message dated 10/12/98 5:22:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BADSCNAME@aol.com writes: << Well, let's see....there's Aquaman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Martian Manhunter....um...i'm for geting someone...oh yeah! Superman! --DC Nut >> Its okay, you can leave superman out.>>> No he can't! It just wouldn't be the same without the Man of Steel! (I know this is waaaay of topic, but I had to defend Supes). Rockhammer KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // "ROCK CHALK JAYHAWKS" KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU ////////////////////////////////////////// KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Rod A. Pellegrini KKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Jayhawks rule!!!!! KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // rodpelle@falcon.cc.ukans.edu KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // Live long and prosper KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // May the force be with you --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.5 --------------- From: Rod Pellegrini Subject: Warehouse finds in 3rd world countries Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:09:29 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII John wrote: > This past year their was a warehouse find of Return of the Jedi figures > MOC, most were not in perfect shape but they did exist. Also places like > the Philipines and other 3rd word countries are often the dumping > grounds for failed toylines and fads of the U.S.A., like the last year > of GI Joe. So its not too hard to believe such a find, now if these were > mid 80s toys then I would wonder. > > -John I agree with most of this except the "3rd world countries being a dump for failed U.S. toylines" bit. I mean C'mon! Toys are just like any other product. If it does well somewhere, it will be tried to be sold somwhere else. This happens with popular toys A LOT. I lived in Chile for a long time (including the mid 80's) and let me tell you, G.I.JOE was selling like crazy over there too. Moreover, the toys being sold were the most popular part of the line (84 to 86) which proves that they weren't being dumped there because they couldn't be sold here. It was just another market. Get off your high horse (no offense meant) and learn some sociopolitics and economics. This didn't just happen in Chile, it happened in Peru, Costa Rica and a whole bunch of other "3rd world countries" as well. Rockhammer, still looking for home everywhere but home ;) KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // "ROCK CHALK JAYHAWKS" KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU ////////////////////////////////////////// KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Rod A. Pellegrini KKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Jayhawks rule!!!!! KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // rodpelle@falcon.cc.ukans.edu KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // Live long and prosper KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // May the force be with you --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.6 --------------- From: cedwards@tcia.net (Christopher Edwards) Subject: Field guide update mk. II Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:25:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, the whole warehouse thing has generated plenty of hubbub, hasn't it? Meanwhile, work continues apace (which is to say slowly) on the GI Joe weapons field guide. So far I've got a page of finished art each on rifles, SMGS, handguns, swords, machineguns, laser rifles, grenade launchers, and Dreadnok weapons. What I was wondering is, does anybody have a particular request that I include a certain weapon in the guide? Say something their RPG character would use? (Bear in mind that I'm sticking pretty much with weapons unique to the figures) Also-the Star Wars D6 weapon system I've seen seems to only factor damage, availability, and cost. Is this satisfactory for Joe RPing? Are things like accuracy and reload time covered by character attributes? And finally, the HEAT Viper's rocket launcher-the handle points up on that, right? High John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.7 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: warehouse access granted Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:39:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Aaahhhhhh, OK. I think I do remember that. If that's the case, do it slowly Richard, if there is as much as you say, there is no reason to worry that they will run out of things in the next few months. -John At 06:27 PM 10/13/98 +0700, you wrote: >Sorry if I'm jumping in but Richard's earlier posting on this matter >stated that his post service is not very reliable hence his reluctance >to engage in trades. > >Dzirhan > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.8 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Warehouse finds in 3rd world countries Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:51:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:09 AM 10/13/98 -0500, you wrote: >I agree with most of this except the "3rd world countries being a dump for >failed U.S. toylines" bit. I mean C'mon! Toys are just like any other >product. If it does well somewhere, it will be tried to be sold somwhere >else. This happens with popular toys A LOT. I lived in Chile for a long >time (including the mid 80's) and let me tell you, G.I.JOE was selling >like crazy over there too. Moreover, the toys being sold were the most >popular part of the line (84 to 86) which proves that they weren't being >dumped there because they couldn't be sold here. It was just another >market. Get off your high horse (no offense meant) and learn some >sociopolitics and economics. This didn't just happen in Chile, it happened I didn't mean to imply that these countries don't get new products but these countries do get all the left overs from the U.S. Also I think I should add that since many of these countries are the source for these toys, it wouldn't surprise me that when Gi Joe was cancelled that the factories left over stock would get sold at bargain prices to places like the Philipines which is just a short boat ride from where they were made in China. >in Peru, Costa Rica and a whole bunch of other "3rd world countries" as >well. I don't know what you mean by quoting 3rd world countries, but those places are the third world. There is a lot of poverty there, not to mention the instability of the governments, many are operating under democracy for the first time in decades. Wasn't Chile under a military dictatorship in the 80s? -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.9 --------------- From: "Davis, Kyle x01276h3" Subject: RE: Warehouse finds in 3rd world countries Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:44:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain > >in Peru, Costa Rica and a whole bunch of other "3rd world countries" as > >well. > > I don't know what you mean by quoting 3rd world countries, but those > places > are the third world. There is a lot of poverty there, not to mention the > instability of the governments, many are operating under democracy for the > first time in decades. Wasn't Chile under a military dictatorship in the > 80s? > > Third World simply means that they aren't aligned with the USA or Russia... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.10 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:08:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810130546.WAA26467@lists1.best.com> Sam Fain wrote: > > Okay, I know we've been over possible casts and who we'd like to > see in certain roles, but this time it's different. If you could use > ANY actor or actress, young or old, dead or alive, past or present who > would they be. Here's my view on it:(BTW, again this is DREAM cast, > no budget, no nothing, anyone is fair game, anyone!) > > General Hawk: Charlton Heston (Adam Bernay mentioned this a few > times and it just grew on me) I'd say a 1968 Heston would fit the part > well. Get your stinkin' paws offa me, you DAMN, DIRTY snakes! > Falcon: Bruce Boxlietner circa 1984 I suppose Jinx would be played by Melissa Gilbert... > Roadblock: James Earl Jones circa 1960 Duke, I am your father. > or the guy that plays > Shaft, I'll be damned if I can think of his name right now! Shut yo mouth! > Sam "Shade" Fain > -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.11 --------------- From: "Jonathan Krenz" Subject: 98Joes Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:19:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Regarding the 98 Joes, how much are they CDN$? Are they 12.99 per pack like last year? Jonathan Krenz k010264@niagarac.on.ca www.geocities.com/area51/rampart/5608 www.geocities.com/area51/rampart/5608/sega.html --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.12 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: Warehouse finds in 3rd world countries Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:25:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810131552.IAA04089@lists1.best.com> John A Woods wrote: > > At 10:09 AM 10/13/98 -0500, you wrote: > > >in Peru, Costa Rica and a whole bunch of other "3rd world countries" as > >well. > > I don't know what you mean by quoting 3rd world countries, but those places > are the third world. There is a lot of poverty there, not to mention the > instability of the governments, many are operating under democracy for the > first time in decades. Wasn't Chile under a military dictatorship in the 80s? Democracy does not equal stability. Quite the opposite in fact - democracy is the most chaotic form of government there is. Of course, you're probably talking about republics rather than democracies, but both are far less stable than monarchies. > > -John -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.13 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Obsessive Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:54:16 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-13 08:17:36 EDT, you write: << Will anybody here have a hard time buying, say, a three pack with Sneak- Peak, Doc, and Crazy Legs, knowing that in the comics they were all killed off? I mean, how would your other figures feel being displayed next to a bunch of dead guys? What, your figures don't talk to you? >> I woldn't display them right next to my figures, but rather off to the side, The Ghosts of those who fell watching over the Joes.) More sybolic, and touching than actually just shoving them up there ;-) Straight-Edge, who is not above an "Arlington 8-Pak" with headstones and roses. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.14 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Field guide update mk. II Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:04:00 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-13 11:45:10 EDT, you write: << And finally, the HEAT Viper's rocket launcher-the handle points up on that, right? >> Simply look at the name on the side of the launcher. It says "Fang"... If the Fang is right side up, then you're holding it the right way... I believe it is handle-up, but I'm not sure. Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.15 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: JLA Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:44:53 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 10/13/98 09:51:21 you wrote: > >From: SNARF5181@aol.com >Subject: Re: JLA >Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:26:03 EDT >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > ><<<< In a message dated 10/12/98 5:22:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >BADSCNAME@aol.com writes: > ><< Well, let's see....there's Aquaman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, The >Flash, > Martian Manhunter....um...i'm for geting someone...oh yeah! Superman! > > --DC Nut >> >Its okay, you can leave superman out.>>> > >No he can't! It just wouldn't be the same without the Man of Steel! > >(I know this is waaaay of topic, but I had to defend Supes). > > Rockhammer > Yeah - and you left out Batman too !!!! - rocketeer - who wonders why it took so long for this to come up ( as I did pick this acronym purposely, as opposed to Joe Liberation Front or something ) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.16 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Field guide update mk. II Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:56:18 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Are things like accuracy and reload time covered by character attributes? >> Accuracy is mostly handled by the skills, and some times if the weapon has a stock, or a scope or tri-pod it adds like +1D or so. Some of the bigger weapons like say the H.E.A.T. Viper's weapon might have a Fire Control of +1, or +1D. The small arms and artillery that load with a clip take 1 round to reload and counts an action. A round in SWRPG is 5 seconds. Larger belt-fed machine guns may take longer. Is that literate enough to read&understand? --Gaming Geek --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.17 --------------- From: "Gabriel Schnerch" Subject: 98 Joes in Manitoba (Canada) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:24:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Don't know if this has been mentioned yet (I get the digest version, and even that I don't get to check all that often), but I noticed the new Joes were available in some parts of Canada according to some members of the list, so I checked my local Toys R Us (in Winnipeg) and they had some in, but only about one of each 3-pack, and I didn't see any vehicles (other than some 97 releases still lying around). They were $12.99 (Canadian) each. I only picked up the Navy Assault Team 3-pack so far myself, as I really can't afford to spend too much money right now. Just thought I'd let you all know though that they have reached Winnipeg (Manitoba) as well. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.18 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: 3rd world countries Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:30:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Third world simply means they are not aligned with the USA or Russia" WHAT? Does that mean that Japan is a third World Country??? I think you may have a wrong picture about what a third world country is... It means a country that has high poverty rates and that is not technically as suffisticated as industrialized countries. Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.19 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: Obsessive Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:26:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well,as long as we're goin' on about the new joes, two things bother me 1-The October Guard team is still reffered to as working for the Soviet Union,does this mean that the new joes are in the time-period of the 70-80's? 2-The Vipers are called Cobra troopers,like the original 82- 83 versions,although they are CLEARLY vipers. In their filecards it says they are of a lower rank then Vipers. I can understand that Hasbro lost the molds to the original Cobra troopers and officers,but did they have to call the Vipers Cobra troopers? IMO they should have just called them Vipers and Viper (or Cobra) Officers. Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.20 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: Re: Obsessive Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:44:40 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/13/98 6:42:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sky15010@skynet.be writes: > 2-The Vipers are called Cobra troopers,like the original 82- > 83 versions,although they are CLEARLY vipers. > In their filecards it says they are of a lower rank then Vipers. > I can understand that Hasbro lost the molds to the original > Cobra troopers and officers,but did they have to call the Vipers > Cobra troopers? > IMO they should have just called them Vipers and Viper (or Cobra) > Officers. I always called and thought of the figures released in 82 as Cobra Soldiers... was this officially noted somewhere or did I just pick up the name and that thats what they were technically called... Then Cobra Troopers would work... I think if the called the Viper officer and Viper Troopers it would have been a good title in my opinion Matt --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.21 --------------- From: Deplitch Subject: Re: Operation: Get Joes Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:02:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810130026.RAA02858@lists1.best.com> SNARF5181@aol.com wrote: > > Yeah, I'm also definitely in > I'm looking to get a lot of cheap figs, not really any vehicles but I'll wait > for a list before I decide how much I'm willing to spend. > Also, I am usually not around during the Friday chats so if were going to > decide stuff then (I read someone mention discussing everything during a chat) > is it possible to change the day for that chat? > > -----Snarf I typically don't go to the chats. I'm sure others don't either who would like to be involved. I would suggest a better way. Maybe do it like a draft on the list. We get the inventory for the warehouse and everyone would make a top ten list or something and we would start with everyone's first pick settle any disputes and move on. Just a thought, Nick --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.22 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Obsessive Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:15:56 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-13 18:42:08 EDT, you write: << 1-The October Guard team is still reffered to as working for the Soviet Union,does this mean that the new joes are in the time-period of the 70-80's? These are memorial collections at best, Tim. I dont think reading into them too much is good ;) 2-The Vipers are called Cobra troopers,like the original 82- 83 versions,although they are CLEARLY vipers. In their filecards it says they are of a lower rank then Vipers. I can understand that Hasbro lost the molds to the original Cobra troopers and officers,but did they have to call the Vipers Cobra troopers? IMO they should have just called them Vipers and Viper (or Cobra) Officers. >> I actually think this works. Look at it, the original Cobra troop mold became the "Cobra", "Cobra Officer", and "Viper Pilot" with only slight differences (yes, I know that they had different molds, but if they were real-life soldiers, they'd all be wearing the same uniform.) So even tho its the 86 Viper Uniform, if you look at the new line as ambiguous in terms of timeframe (That the figures like Brehkov are "ghost figures" and Vypra and Thunderwing are new reruits, all released in the same year) then the 1998 Cobra force is divided in a similar way as the 1993 force... Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.23 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Ramblings from a Tank Jockey Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:39:40 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1) The October guard is significantly and historically Soviet...as such it needs to be a Soviet team. The name alone implies Soviet connection due to the Communist revolution in Oct 1917 0r so 2) I don't buy this - we lost the molds garbage from Hasbro some examples A) Snake Eyes 97 crotch is not his...yet the original is the same as the majority of the 82 squad why not use the same one they used for the other 97's? B) Flash 97 is a bad joke....James Desimonen in an issue of his Club Newsletter (#20 June 97) shows a Hasbro repaint of Flash 82 which is OBVIOUSLY new plastic C) Cobra Commander 97 is version 3....YET the same DeSimone newsletter has a version 1 repaint AGAIN new plastic... 3) Is it just me or have we got SO bogged down in the warehouse full of Joes that we talk about nothing else? Here's a couple of topics to stimulate some new input For those into the Comic Book....which is your favorite issue and why For the Cartoon folks.....which is your favorite episode and why Steeler- (looking for a MOBAT cause his mom got rid of his 10 years ago sniff, sniff) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.24 --------------- From: Dawn Greider Subject: warehouse, operation, JLA, blah, blah, blah Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:58:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tire of this chit-chat, I just want some Joes. Tell me when the deal goes down and how much it will cost me to get three random Eco-Force figures, i don't care which three. This talk makes my head hurt, me lie down now, sleep good. -Hurricane (SMASH!) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.25 --------------- From: "Sigi Goode (The Funk Phenomenon)" Subject: RE: Warehouse finds in 3rd world countries Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:20:04 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810131640.JAA28285@lists1.best.com> At 12:44 13/10/98 -0400, you wrote: >> >Third World simply means that they aren't aligned with the USA or Russia... Switzerland is my favorite third world country. Sigi ---------- http://sigi.home.ml.org Information Systems Lecturer Commerce Department Australian National University, Canberra, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.26 --------------- From: SNARF5181@aol.com Subject: Re: JLA Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:37:14 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/13/98 3:14:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rktmoose@ix.netcom.com writes: << - rocketeer - who wonders why it took so long for this to come up ( as I did pick this acronym purposely, as opposed to Joe Liberation Front or something ) >> I figured I would get things thrown at me if I brought it up. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.27 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: JLA Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:18:02 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 10/13/98 20:37:14 you wrote: > >In a message dated 10/13/98 3:14:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >rktmoose@ix.netcom.com writes: > ><< > - rocketeer - > > who wonders why it took so long for this to come up ( as I did pick this > acronym purposely, as opposed to Joe Liberation Front or something ) > >> >I figured I would get things thrown at me if I brought it up. > Yeah, but virtual bricks don't hurt * real * bad..... 8-( - rocketeer - --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.28 --------------- From: "Robert Culpepper" Subject: ANNOUNCING G.I. JOE RPG ON IRC Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:40:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There's a new game in town, and it's on the IRC... it's G.I. Joe as only the Internet could bring it to you. Introducing #Joe_RPG !! This RPG is the product of the hard work of Rod (Zartan's Domain). It is based on the cartoon up to the movie (the movie never happened - no Cobra La and that stuff). Members of the RPG choose Joe characters (no Cobras) to play throughout the game... only one character per member at the present time. The first RPG was held this past Monday and went very well (it was an experiment to see how it would work). The server for the RPG is now being rehoused. It was on dal.net, but because of major problems, it will be moving. We will keep you informed. Games are set for Monday nights at 6pm Central 7pm Eastern. For more information on #Joe_RPG, go to http://members.xoom.com/shipshape1/joe_rpg . Here are the characters we have so far... Hawk (that's me!) Duke (Rockhammer) Falcon (just_Andy) Doc (Triage) Flash Bullet (new female character) If you love Joe and the cartoon, this is a must! If you love IRC and chatting, you'll love it too. Check out the web site, and prepare for battle! Yo Joe!! For more information on #Joe_RPG, check out http://members.xoom.com/shipshape1/joe_rpg . Robert Culpepper Code Name: Eagle Eye RPG: GeneralHawk --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.29 --------------- From: Veritech1A@webtv.net (Rod Stuberg) Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Tank Jockey Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:59:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary=WebTV-Mail-554961067-215 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit --WebTV-Mail-554961067-215 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit My favorite cartoon episode? I don't know the name, but some of the Joes fall off a train and dream that Cobra rules the world. Well, actually, there's a tie. The other is the famous Shipwreck's story to childen episode. Oh, and the DIC one I like the most is the Ninja Force episode. Budo --WebTV-Mail-554961067-215 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net [207.79.35.91]) by postoffice-222.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/po.gso.24Feb98) with ESMTP id QAA09141; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists1.best.com (lists1.best.com [206.86.8.15]) by mailsorter-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id QAA16172; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists1.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.ls) id QAA13404; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810132342.QAA13404@lists1.best.com> From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Ramblings from a Tank Jockey Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:39:40 EDT BestServHost: lists.best.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gijoe-errors@lists.best.com Errors-To: gijoe-errors@lists.best.com Reply-To: gijoe@lists.best.com To: gijoe@lists.best.com 1) The October guard is significantly and historically Soviet...as such it needs to be a Soviet team. The name alone implies Soviet connection due to the Communist revolution in Oct 1917 0r so 2) I don't buy this - we lost the molds garbage from Hasbro some examples A) Snake Eyes 97 crotch is not his...yet the original is the same as the majority of the 82 squad why not use the same one they used for the other 97's? B) Flash 97 is a bad joke....James Desimonen in an issue of his Club Newsletter (#20 June 97) shows a Hasbro repaint of Flash 82 which is OBVIOUSLY new plastic C) Cobra Commander 97 is version 3....YET the same DeSimone newsletter has a version 1 repaint AGAIN new plastic... 3) Is it just me or have we got SO bogged down in the warehouse full of Joes that we talk about nothing else? Here's a couple of topics to stimulate some new input For those into the Comic Book....which is your favorite issue and why For the Cartoon folks.....which is your favorite episode and why Steeler- (looking for a MOBAT cause his mom got rid of his 10 years ago sniff, sniff) --WebTV-Mail-554961067-215-- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n709.30 --------------- From: "Sam Fain" Subject: Re: Field guide update mk. II Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:25:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I honestly think the system that should be used for GI Joe RPGing is Victory Games' James Bond game. It has TONS of info on weapons, vehicles, terrorism, all kinds of stats including accuracy, reload time, RPM, etc., etc. It can be ordered from Amazon and I'd be more than happy to get together with anyone to help out on the project(I own a copy and could easily provide examples and info, plus I've made a few characters for the game based on Joes) Let me know what anyone thinks. Sam "Shade" Fain -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Edwards To: gijoe@lists.best.com Date: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 8:42 AM Subject: Field guide update mk. II >Well, the whole warehouse thing has generated plenty of hubbub, hasn't >it? Meanwhile, work continues apace (which is to say slowly) on the GI >Joe weapons field guide. So far I've got a page of finished art each on >rifles, SMGS, handguns, swords, machineguns, laser rifles, grenade >launchers, and Dreadnok weapons. What I was wondering is, does anybody >have a particular request that I include a certain weapon in the guide? >Say something their RPG character would use? (Bear in mind that I'm >sticking pretty much with weapons unique to the figures) > Also-the Star Wars D6 weapon system I've seen seems to only factor >damage, availability, and cost. Is this satisfactory for Joe RPing? Are >things like accuracy and reload time covered by character attributes? > And finally, the HEAT Viper's rocket launcher-the handle points up >on that, right? > >High John > > > --------------- END gijoe.v001.n709 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n710 -------------- 001 - "Sam Fain" - Funny... 016 - "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:28:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Rottweiler To: gijoe@lists.best.com Date: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 10:40 AM Subject: Re: Dream Cast >Sam Fain wrote: >> >> Okay, I know we've been over possible casts and who we'd like to >> see in certain roles, but this time it's different. If you could use >> ANY actor or actress, young or old, dead or alive, past or present who >> would they be. Here's my view on it:(BTW, again this is DREAM cast, >> no budget, no nothing, anyone is fair game, anyone!) >> >> General Hawk: Charlton Heston (Adam Bernay mentioned this a few >> times and it just grew on me) I'd say a 1968 Heston would fit the part >> well. > >Get your stinkin' paws offa me, you DAMN, DIRTY snakes! > >> Falcon: Bruce Boxlietner circa 1984 > >I suppose Jinx would be played by Melissa Gilbert... > >> Roadblock: James Earl Jones circa 1960 > >Duke, I am your father. > You've obviously never seen The Great White Hope or photos of JEJ from that time period! >> or the guy that plays >> Shaft, I'll be damned if I can think of his name right now! > >Shut yo mouth! > >> Sam "Shade" Fain >> > >-- >Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen > >"We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in >tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.2 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: Operation: Get Joes Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:44:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Someone mentioned just getting all we can per shipment then divying it up later...I like this idea. I personally find it dubious to take orders, considering the situation. Maybe we should do it this way: make up a list of people willing to commit to buying X amount (say $20) in a single shipment, no matter what's there. Then when we get each shipment, those who have committed to buying X amount get first crack at what's there for a total of X amount. After all that's sold, if there's any left, it gets advertised on the list. If we go with that plan, I already say I'm in. Joe me, people! Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNiQQIcSNrCBK3ASDEQJwNACg47U9Aen2eoD8BBDxyga+Ai9BRHMAn1DI oJRxWcxeyToTQoPssRBwrj2/ =NLB0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.3 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: Am I alone??? Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:47:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 From: Zzarana@aol.com Date: Monday, October 12, 1998 4:35 PM >Am I the only one who is a little uneasy about this >whole "great Find"??? Isn't it a little too convient to >find a warehouse full of great toys that everybody >wants?? Actually no, considering the situation... >I am not trying to put anyone down, or call anyone >a thief but there is just something about it. I am not >trying to tell anyone to do, if YOU want to pay and >send your money go ahead, but just have it in the >back of your mind. I believe that's why Dzirhan made the offer of paying ahead of time and allowing us to pay him back, to reduce that fear. Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNiQQ0cSNrCBK3ASDEQLZdQCff+6pmoikdys5rx/fx0mKepgv+j4AnjpW NH55w1W/XgNdnbRRM0hAj6aj =OS62 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.4 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: New Chat Day (was: Re: Operation: Get Joes) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:54:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 From: SNARF5181@aol.com Date: Monday, October 12, 1998 5:33 PM >Also, I am usually not around during the Friday chats >so if were going to decide stuff then (I read someone >mention discussing everything during a chat) is it >possible to change the day for that chat? Speaking of that, I have been so busy tat I have forgotten completely that there has been organized (but not done yet) a new *THURSDAY* Night Chat at the #gijoe room on dal.net, with yours truly moderating. However...for the next two Thursday nights, I cannot be there, this Thursday because I will be in Pomona for the Babylon 5 convention "Voice of the Resistence" (beginning Friday morning) and the next Thursday I will be in Sacramento with my Debate Team for the Governor's Cup Tournament! So we may need a backup moderator for weeks when I will be at a tournament over the weekend (the con visit is an aberration). Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNiQSb8SNrCBK3ASDEQKaTwCglCXfaFJdbKk0deL7AykRpyoG6NMAoII8 f57sjn7OxKH9tkJU1gy1uYCN =fpfE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.5 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:00:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Could Sam (and anyone else doing this) please refrain from sending e-mails in rich text to the List or to me privately, at least the ones with background colors? My screen is really bad for this and it makes reading them time consuming, as I must forward the message to myself and convert it to plain text prior to hitting send. Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNiQTu8SNrCBK3ASDEQJtNACfVwDE9gmEQqLMyZQQ+dIZ3grOgGsAoLlZ KmCysIUFZkJTkSXeZotVz0NR =GcYK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.6 --------------- From: Pawsha@aol.com Subject: Re: ANNOUNCING G.I. JOE RPG ON IRC Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:15:23 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can I be SE?!?!?! Josh Scott Pawsha@aol.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.7 --------------- From: "Sam Fain" Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:18:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry about that, I didn't even know I was doing it until you mentioned it to me now. It should be fixed now, I hope, if not let me know. Thanks and sorry, Sam "Shade" Fain -----Original Message----- From: Adam Bernay To: gijoe@lists.best.com Date: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 8:18 PM Subject: Re: Dream Cast >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Could Sam (and anyone else doing this) please refrain from sending >e-mails in rich text to the List or to me privately, at least the ones >with background colors? My screen is really bad for this and it makes >reading them time consuming, as I must forward the message to myself >and convert it to plain text prior to hitting send. > > >Adam Bernay >CODE NAME: Maccabee >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use > >iQA/AwUBNiQTu8SNrCBK3ASDEQJtNACfVwDE9gmEQqLMyZQQ+dIZ3grOgGsAoLlZ >KmCysIUFZkJTkSXeZotVz0NR >=GcYK >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.8 --------------- From: cedwards@tcia.net (Christopher Edwards) Subject: Field guide feedback. Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:25:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks again for the info regarding weapons and RPG stats. I'm still plugging away with the artwork, it's not a quick process. I think the James Bond RPG stats idea is pretty good, myself...I have a copy of the Q manual from way back...(reccomended to anyone who's interested in exotic weapons, vehicles, etc.) I like the thoroughness of the system, but I don't want to burn a lot of folks who've said they use the Star Wars D6 system. But since I'll probably attatch stats to the weapons last thing, I have some time to decide. More input always welcome. High John (my fingers remain cramped) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.9 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Tank Jockey Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:26:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 From: Rod Stuberg Date: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 7:16 PM >My favorite cartoon episode? I don't know the name, >but some of the Joes fall off a train and dream that >Cobra rules the world. That wasn't a dream, Rod...they went into another dimension (which is explicitly stated in the ep...I know because it's my favorite as well)... Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNiQZ9cSNrCBK3ASDEQJ3/gCfc10DRt09gZN6V6kArNX8oAr9stQAnj0i +w1W5iNSYgG9EGUhkpIQ6yNh =QDqd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.10 --------------- From: Rod Pellegrini Subject: 3rd world... Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:27:57 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII John wrote: > I don't know what you mean by quoting 3rd world countries, but those > places > are the third world. There is a lot of poverty there, not to mention the > instability of the governments, many are operating under democracy for > the > first time in decades. Wasn't Chile under a military dictatorship in the > 80s? > Yes, and for most of the 70's too, but has nothing to do with the definition of third world... see below... And Kyle Added: > Third World simply means that they aren't aligned with the USA or > Russia... Exactly! which would make countries like Costa Rica, for instance, not third world. Costa Rica has always kept good relations with the U.S., and has never aligned itself with the former U.S.S.R. or Russia. (note I'm not confusing Costa Rica with Puerto Rico--aligned doesn't mean territory or state). And yet, Costa Rica is by no means a rich country. Quite the contrary, really. They don't even have an army! The only thing I meant by quoting 3rd world was that we don't even have a clear standard for what the 3rd world is. If economics were the basis for the definition, then countries like Chile wouldn't be third world either. Don't take me wrong--the country is far from rich, but it isn't poor either. Under an economic definition, Chile would be more of a country on development rather than third world. That's all I meant by putting 3rd world between quotes. If you want another example, take a look at Cuba. No one can argue that they didn't align themselves with the U.S.S.R., yet they were and are a poor country. Is Cuba a third world country? Depends on the definition you use. See my point? That's all I meant by that. Rockhammer, who's been around... KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // "ROCK CHALK JAYHAWKS" KKKKK KKKKK UUUUU UUUUU ////////////////////////////////////////// KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Rod A. Pellegrini KKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // Jayhawks rule!!!!! KKKKKKKKKK UUUUU UUUUU // rodpelle@falcon.cc.ukans.edu KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // Live long and prosper KKKKK KKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUU // May the force be with you --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.11 --------------- From: "Davis, Kyle x01276h3" Subject: RE: 3rd world... Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:52:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain > If you want another example, take a look at Cuba. No one can argue > that they didn't align themselves with the U.S.S.R., yet they were and are > a poor country. Is Cuba a third world country? Depends on the definition > you use. See my point? That's all I meant by that. > > If you look up Third World, the definition doesn't extend to > Communist nations...therefore Cuba wouldn't be 3rd world... > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.12 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Operation: Get Joes Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:14:18 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Maybe we should do it this way: make up a list of people willing to commit to buying X amount (say $20) in a single shipment, no matter what's there. Then when we get each shipment, those who have committed to buying X amount get first crack at what's there for a total of X amount. After all that's sold, if there's any left, it gets advertised on the list. >> And how about if there's money left over, if the $20 commetor doesn't spend all hi/her/it's money, then it gets credited over to the next shipment. --Broke Flat --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.13 --------------- From: "Ian & Melanie" Subject: RE: Obsessive Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:33:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <199810131208.FAA00834@lists1.best.com> You mean like Col. Brekhov? -----Original Message----- From: gijoe-errors@lists.best.com [mailto:gijoe-errors@lists.best.com]On Behalf Of Joseph Smith Sent: October 13, 1998 9:18 AM To: gijoe@lists.best.com Subject: Obsessive I'm probably the most obsessive-compulsive member of the list, but I do have a question and I was wondering if it bothered anybody like it bothers me. What if, while they are making all the re-releases, they rerelease figures like Doc, Crankcase, Heavy Metal, Quick-Kick, etc? They are dead, as you recall. I know Breaker was killed off in the comics and released in the S&S assortment, but for some reason (probably due to the fact that it resembles Breaker not in the least) that doesn't really bother me. Will anybody here have a hard time buying, say, a three pack with Sneak-Peak, Doc, and Crazy Legs, knowing that in the comics they were all killed off? I mean, how would your other figures feel being displayed next to a bunch of dead guys? What, your figures don't talk to you? Joey "Smitty" Smith (Probably revealing too much about his anal nature) ***************************************************** From: Joseph Smith Walk Thru the Bible Ministries Tel: 770-451-9300 (Local) 1-800-868-9300 (Inside US) Fax: 770-454-9313 E-mail Address: jsmith@walkthru.org Home Page: http://www.walkthru.org For more information via email send a blank email to: info@walkthru.org ***************************************************** --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.14 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: warehouse, operation, JLA, blah, blah, blah Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:39:43 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/14/98 12:22:12 AM !!!First Boot!!!, dgreider@net- link.net writes: << I tire of this chit-chat, I just want some Joes. Tell me when the deal goes down and how much it will cost me to get three random Eco-Force figures, i don't care which three. This talk makes my head hurt, me lie down now, sleep good. -Hurricane (SMASH!) >> LMAO - I am starting to agree w/ Hurricane - TOO MANY POSTS of which I am guilty of myself! --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.15 --------------- From: Ed Dam Subject: Funny... Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 01:47:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I happened to be across the US border yesterday, and dropped by a Toys R Us in NY state. I was quite impressed with how much 97 stuff they still had stocked. They still have EVERYTHING from the 97 line available. Here in Canada, you are lucky to find a leftover slugger or rage kicking around, let alone an A10 or Commando 3-pack. Hell, what surprised me the most was that they still had at least a dozen Stars and Stripes sets there. I know it wasn't the most popular part of the 97 series, but at the same time it wasn't the most available one either. Anyway I thought it was cool.......or maybe I just got the mind farts, I don't know..... Ed --(who is the proud owner of his 4th A10--every time I see one, I gotta buy it, that plane rules.) -- http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/tripcock/45/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/minstrel.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/gijoe.html http://www.iaw.on.ca/~damed/titanic.html "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house" Ed Dam damed@iaw.on.ca --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.16 --------------- From: "Adam Bernay" Subject: Re: Operation: Get Joes Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:02:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Date: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 9:35 PM >> Maybe we should do it this way: make up a list of >> people willing to commit to buying X amount (say >> $20) in a single shipment, no matter what's there. >> Then when we get each shipment, those who have >> committed to buying X amount get first crack at >> what's there for a total of X amount. After all that's >> sold, if there's any left, it gets advertised on the list. > >And how about if there's money left over, if the $20 >commetor doesn't spend all hi/her/it's money, then it >gets credited over to the next shipment. The whole point of them committing is that they take that X amount and pay that X amount, period. It defeats the purpose for people to weasel out of spending all of that X amount. Adam Bernay CODE NAME: Maccabee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNiQ+V8SNrCBK3ASDEQKIYQCg4hNODCc9IPsxfIsbwbdLEA8np/AAn0O4 e7cXpDE3TZoDviFXORl0Tfzm =7ZOg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.17 --------------- From: ralarcon@skyinet.net Subject: New Email Address Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:55:14 +0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all. This is Richard. Just changed email address bec Hotmail is terribly slow. I now have a nearly complete list of what's available and I'll be posting it soon, and the pictures, I hope.. I'm just waiting for the storm to pass to continue. And we will get a better deal with the vehicles. Good Luck all. -- Richard --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.18 --------------- From: Conor Malone Subject: Re: Questions for Larry Hama Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:59:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810121832.LAA10915@lists1.best.com> Adam Bernay wrote: > > Conor: > Most of John's questions seem to be the standard ones newbies to > the List ask when they find out Mr. Hama is here. Maybe you should > include his answers as a part of the List FAQ (BTW, *IS* there a List > FAQ?). > Yeah, this is something I should really put together. I'll get to work on it. Someone else asked about a comic FAQ, this is also a great idea. I've been meaning to put something like that together as well. Maybe after I take care of the list FAQ, then I will take a crack at it. Conor -- Conor Malone Desk 408-731-3317 Technical Yahoo! Pager 888-325-5117 http://www.yahoo.com/ Cell 408-219-5947 --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.19 --------------- From: Peboy@aol.com Subject: Re: Am I alone??? Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:53:56 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/13/98 7:59:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rktmoose@ix.netcom.com writes: << How MUCH ?!?!?! ( I allways wanted my own bridge ) >> $20.... I've got a whole warehouse full of them in Laos. :) Peboy --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.20 --------------- From: Adam Casey Subject: Re: ANNOUNCING G.I. JOE RPG ON IRC Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:15:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810140140.SAA24211@lists1.best.com> > If you love Joe and the cartoon, this is a must! If you love IRC and > chatting, you'll love it too. Check out the web site, and prepare for > battle! Question: Can I be Timber? --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n710.21 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Am I alone??? Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:58:26 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 10/14/98 14:53:56 you wrote: > >In a message dated 10/13/98 7:59:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >rktmoose@ix.netcom.com writes: > ><< > How MUCH ?!?!?! > > ( I allways wanted my own bridge ) >> > >$20.... I've got a whole warehouse full of them in Laos. :) > >Peboy > > Cool , can you deliver it ??? - rocketeer - --------------- END gijoe.v001.n710 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n711 -------------- 001 - Peboy@aol.com - Re: Am I alone??? 002 - ralarcon@skyinet.net - Figure Trial Run 003 - "Jonathan Krenz" Subject: 98 Joes Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 06:01:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT October 14th 1998 5:31 PM On my way to work, I decide to stop by TRU. Not expecting too much, because I called an hour earlier. "The new G.I. Joe toys have not arrived, sir." "Thank you. Bye." Doo-doo-doo. Hmm. TRU has changed their floor layout since last I visited. Where's the action figure aisle? Ah. Here it is... GOOD LORD! HALF THE AISLE IS FULL OF 98 JOE FIGURES! Ahhhhh! I have no money! Wait...I have my almost maxxed-out credit card with the broken magnetic strip. I can only afford two sets. I will choose Cobra Polar and Oktober Guard. I have the new Joes. They have arrived in the Niagara Region. Anyone living in New York state on the border of Ontario, make the 45 minute drive to St. Catharines and pick up these Joes (but leave some for me cos I haven't picked them all up yet!). Because, dang, the exchange rate is REALLY in your favour. The quality is not quite that of the originals, but it's so much better than last year that it doesn't matter. I think that I might actually prefer the plastic to the old because it's still the tiniest bit "springy" so I'll probably never have to worry about busted thumbs and crotches. Hey, where's Gorky's spring-loaded flourescent-missiled weapon? - kidding One packaging error which I'm sure has already been mentioned, but here goes - Lt. Gorky is the grey uniformed guy with the beard. Check his card. Brekhov is the guy with the cap. Check the comics (where he died - here we go with raising the dead again). Thanks to Thomas/David for making sure Daina remained; everything makes sense now. And DANG but Firefly's card is awesome! This has to be the best continuation of an old character I have ever seen! Also, the uniform makes total sense now. The packaging is IMHO the best I have ever seen for G.I. Joe. It seems sparse in the photos, but when I held them Joes in my hand, I was tempted not to open them. They really look awesome! The bubble doesn't stick out three feet like last year! Everybody comes with correct weapons (I think - my knowledge of post-86 Joes is very limited)! The filecards are absolutely amazing! Hopefully I will get my GST rebate today or tomorrow. Then I'll get the Naval and Cobra Infantry teams. My condolences to American fans. These Joes are excellent! Ichiban! I hope you don't have to wait 6 months like I did last year. I can hardly wait for the vehicles to be released. ALL the vehicles for this year are classics! I'm buying this year because G.I. Joe is back to its former glory (maybe even more so - purists may disagree) - the quality is there (almost) - the "coolness" is there - dang, but words just aren't enough. I had a midterm at 8 AM this morning in digital electronics. Guess what? I worked til 1:00 AM, got home, and played with my Joes for an hour. Ah...an hour of needed sleep is a small price to pay to bask in the holiness of the 98 Joes! Too much talking on my part... I want everyone to know that G.I. Joe in 98 is the greatest thing that could have happened for the fans. I am but a humble servant of G.I. Joe, so please judge for yourself. Hoping for a comic and/or cartoon in my lifetime... Jonathan Krenz k010264@niagarac.on.ca www.geocities.com/area51/rampart/5608 www.geocities.com/area51/rampart/5608/sega.html --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n711.4 --------------- From: "DeVoe, Gary (DEVOEGW)" Subject: RE: Ramblings from a Tank Jockey Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:59:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: JSMosby61@aol.com [SMTP:JSMosby61@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 7:40 PM To: gijoe@lists.best.com Subject: Ramblings from a Tank Jockey For those into the Comic Book....which is your favorite issue and why -----------------------> I'd have to say it is a close contest between issue #115 and SM#28... SM#28 highlights the shuttle Defiant, Mudfighter, Phantom X-19 Stealth, and the Cobra Condors and Conquests. It starts out with the shuttle embarking on a recon mission having to do with the visibility from orbit of a Joe secret stealth fighter airbase. Then the very same secret stealth base in Sierra Gordo is bombed by Condors. Ghostrider is the only one to get his aircraft away safely. Meanwhile, Conquests make a missile run on the FLAGG, and Dogfight in his Mudfighter is the only one available to fend off the Cobra jets. It all culminates with a dogfight that involves even the Defiant shuttle (with which Payload then proceeds to perform a carrier landing on the FLAGG). #115 chronicles events at the end of the Trucial Abysmian war. Ghostrider and Slipstream prepare to make a recon flight over Benzheen in the Phantom X-19. This event is subsequent to Ace and Dogfight's fiery arrival from the same area in their severely damaged Skystriker after something had "bit them in the tail". The X-19's recon photos show that Cobra has indeed built a Terrordrome in the area. Both of these issues highlight the USS FLAGG, Joe flyboys (and their rides) and depict some interesting ACM. -Triage --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n711.5 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: 98 Joes Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:14:00 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/15/98 2:27:01 PM !!!First Boot!!!, K010264@niagarac.on.ca writes: << I'm buying this year because G.I. Joe is back to its former glory (maybe even more so - purists may disagree) >> How can it be back to it's former glory w/o a comic, cartoon, or recognition from the buying public....Without the younger kids buying GI JOE there is no future --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n711.6 --------------- From: "Sam Fain" Subject: Re: 98 Joes Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:57:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ><< I'm buying this year because G.I. Joe is > back to its former glory (maybe even more so - purists may disagree) >> > >How can it be back to it's former glory w/o a comic, cartoon, or recognition >from the buying public....Without the younger kids buying GI JOE there is no >future Who says younger kids aren't buying G.I. Joe? I was in Toys R Us the other day and saw a four-year-old buying a couple three-packs with his mom, and on other occasions I've seen children buying the figures. Do you honestly think that if only the collecting public of G.I. Joe were buying the little guys that Hasbro/Kenner would be releasing another years assortment! I think you should go back and reevaluate that opinion. As for the fact of not having a cartoon and comic, this is very true. But maybe with the "new" (for lack of a better term) Joe releases these other forms of media may be on there way in the future, of course I wouldn't hold my breath! Sam "Shade" Fain --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n711.7 --------------- From: "Mike L. Walker" Subject: 1998 G.I. Joes Date: Thu, 15 Oct 98 17:32:54 EDT Hi all, Zap here. I am just wandering. When will the 1998 Joes be out in TRU in Ohio? I can hardley wait! Yo Joe!! Zap out. .-- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n711.8 --------------- From: "Mike L. Walker" Subject: 1998 G.I. Joes Date: Thu, 15 Oct 98 17:37:06 EDT Hi all, Zap here. I am just wandering. When will the 1998 Joes be out in TRU stores in Ohio? I can hardley wait! Yo Joe!! Zap out. .-- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n711.9 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: JLA Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:37:38 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK Joes, It would seem the gauntlet has been thrown - I am willing to take this on as the US man ( better than US-less man, I guess ). So I would say that requests can come to me ( privately I would think) and I will start up a first-come first serve list . I would agree with Dzirhan / Richard on the limiting to a few items each to start but if you send a larger list I hope I can track it and ' match up' the 3 packs to 3 end buyers, etc. I think one thing here is that, as I only want a couple myself , if there were say a leftover figure from needing to get them in those 3-packs that I can allways use troops ( or get them sent anyways and post to the list that I did get an ' extra' ) That would seem to alleviate the confusion and some work on Richards part. SO - trial run about to go, I guess. Al / rocketeer --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n711.10 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: 1998 G.I. Joes Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:14:08 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-15 18:12:57 EDT, you write: << I am just wandering. When will the 1998 Joes be out in TRU in Ohio? I can hardley wait! >> Ask hasbro ;) Seriously, if we knew, we would all be at TRU waiting... Don't look away like you dont know what I'm talking about! I am NOT insane.. Straight-Edge... well, maybe a little... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n711.11 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: 98 Joes Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:55:40 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My opinion stands as stated....how can this accurately be described as back to it's former glory? At the pinnacle of the RAH line, it was the hottest toy line on the market....where I live, there are TONS of Stars and Stripes, vehicles, and Artic 3 packs collecting dust at TRU....there are TRU's with EVERYTHING still readily available.....and the fact they are TRU exclusive does not bode well as I remember JOES in every store that carries toys (WalMart, K-Mart, etc) to say that it is back to it's former glory is incorrect (IMO). Could it return to that point? I don't know, the jury is still out but without a movie, cartoon, comic, video game, etc, the chance of the reurn as we remember it is truely diminished. And I do believe hasbro would produce a line strictly for collector's - can you say Classic Collection? These have been marketed STRICTLY for collectors. Steeler (wondering when the MOBAT might be re-released but not holding his breath) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n711.12 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: JLA update Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:25:12 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii YO JOES, Ok - I am starting to get some replies on this and am keeping notes. However, I would like to point out a possible misunderstanding ... RICHARD - maybe you can help clear this up ? ... I have gotten requests for such as " Eco Warrior 3 pak " I do not hink the paks are grouped that way , but much more random. If I can get, say a pak with two eco war ( plus a DEF ) and then another with one DEF, one Eco and a Battle Corp - then the Eco war ' wantee' will get three but no guarantees that there will be certain figures in each 3 pak ( right , Richard ? ) I know Richard will do his best to find what we want but .... AL / rocketeer --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n711.13 --------------- From: "Robert Culpepper" Subject: Friday Chat and Important News!! Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:52:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yo Joes!! It's time for the Friday chat! We'll be chatting on #Gijoe at irc.dal.net this Friday, starting at 9pm EST, earlier for some, later for others. I will personally be late for the chat... school business. Access the chat through your IRC client, or go to http://www.dal.net/chatnew to access the Java version. Special thanks to AirAaron for registering the channel I'd also like to take this chance to announce that this will be the last chat on dal.net. Due to people's ISPs being banned from dal.net, the chat is being relocated. The chat NEXT week will be held at irc.webmaster.com at #Gijoe. I'll be posting more detailed information before next Friday, also, the new chat applet to access the channel will be available at OmegaBattalion. I will help anyone get connected to the irc.webmaster.com and make changes to their software. Please direct any questions to me at rculpepp@toast.net Robert Culpepper Code Name: Eagle Eye General Hawk on #Joe_RPG Omega Battalion: http://members.xoom.com/JoeRollCall --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n711.14 --------------- From: "Robert Culpepper" Subject: #Joe_RPG Update Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:15:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For more detailed information on the G.I. Joe IRC RPG, go to http://members.xoom.com/shipshape1/joe_rpg . We have moved the chat server to irc.webmaster.com . The channel will remain #Joe_RPG . Robert Culpepper Code Name: Eagle Eye IRC RPG: GeneralHawk --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n711.15 --------------- From: Pawsha@aol.com Subject: Re: 98 Joes Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:24:41 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-15 19:49:31 EDT, you write: > My opinion stands as stated....how can this accurately be described as back > to > it's former glory? I think he means quality. Not everything Joe or the whole Universe, just the figures. Josh Scott Pawsha@aol.com --------------- END gijoe.v001.n711 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n712 -------------- 001 - John A Woods - Looking forward to Halloween? 016 - BespinRunt@aol.com - Re: Dream Cast 017 - "Sam Fain" Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:44:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:08 AM 10/13/98 -0700, you wrote: >> or the guy that plays >> Shaft, I'll be damned if I can think of his name right now! > >Shut yo mouth! Wasn't the black private dick who was sex machine to all the chicks played by Richard Roundtree? You have a nice list but I think Stalker should be played by Shaft. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.2 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Warehouse finds in 3rd world countries Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:44:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:25 AM 10/13/98 -0700, you wrote: >Democracy does not equal stability. Quite the opposite in fact - >democracy is the most chaotic form of government there is. Of course, >you're probably talking about republics rather than democracies, but >both are far less stable than monarchies. Yeah, but how often does a democracy instigate a world war? -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.3 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Operation: Get Joes Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:44:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:02 PM 10/13/98 -0700, you wrote: >>And how about if there's money left over, if the $20 >>commetor doesn't spend all hi/her/it's money, then it >>gets credited over to the next shipment. > >The whole point of them committing is that they take that X amount and >pay that X amount, period. It defeats the purpose for people to >weasel out of spending all of that X amount. How about letting Richard keep the change? It is his valuable time that is being spent. If I get to order, I intend to add a few bucks for his trouble. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.4 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Tank Jockey Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:44:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:39 PM 10/13/98 EDT, you wrote: >For those into the Comic Book....which is your favorite issue and why Well my favorite stories occured in the teens when the Joes battled Dr Venom and Scarface BUT is there any better or more important comic than the 2 part origin of my favorite, Snake Eyes? #26-27 Its probably the most important two issues in the entire series, the entire Hard Master murder plot lasted for years in the background. Whenever the Hard Master murder was brought up in the comic it was always a nice bonus, as the main story arcs were usually pretty damn good anyway! And it all begins in #26, which also serves as an origin for Stalker and Storm Shadow, two more of my favorite characters. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.5 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Questions for Larry Hama Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:44:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:59 AM 10/14/98 -0700, you wrote: >> include his answers as a part of the List FAQ (BTW, *IS* there a List >> FAQ?). >> > >Yeah, this is something I should really put together. I'll get to work >on it. Someone else asked about a comic FAQ, this is also a great idea. >I've been meaning to put something like that together as well. Maybe >after I take care of the list FAQ, then I will take a crack at it. If you need some help LMK I've been culling a few facts (although nothing I've jotted down is really that obscure) about the comic line in the hopes of one day setting up a web page dedicated to the comic, but more and more it looks like the things I'm interested in putting on such a site are things that could be collected in a FAQ. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.6 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: RE: Warehouse finds in 3rd world countries Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:44:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:44 PM 10/13/98 -0400, you wrote: > >> >in Peru, Costa Rica and a whole bunch of other "3rd world countries" as >> >well. >> >> I don't know what you mean by quoting 3rd world countries, but those >> places >> are the third world. There is a lot of poverty there, not to mention the >> instability of the governments, many are operating under democracy for the >> first time in decades. Wasn't Chile under a military dictatorship in the >> 80s? >> >> >Third World simply means that they aren't aligned with the USA or Russia... You know I remember reading somewhere where U.S. allies were 1st, Soviet block was 2nd and the rest were 3rd. So I stand corrected about 3rd World, however, considering that almost all of the rich countries of the world are allied with the U.S. and that the former communist nations have really gone all to hell in the past 10 years I still feel that 3rd world still describes the poor countries rather well and those former Soviet countries probably deserve to be classed as poor countries. So what I really want to say is that poor countries are dumping grounds for the unwanted products of the United States. Just as the U.S. is Japan's dumping ground for inferior high-tech goods, of course those Japanese "cast offs" aren't exactly as cheap as those philipino gi joes. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.7 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:53:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810160446.VAA17721@lists1.best.com> John A Woods wrote: > > At 10:08 AM 10/13/98 -0700, you wrote: > >> or the guy that plays > >> Shaft, I'll be damned if I can think of his name right now! > > > >Shut yo mouth! > > Wasn't the black private dick who was sex machine to all the chicks played > by Richard Roundtree? Hmmm..."private", "dick" and "sex machine". Certainly gives a new meaning to "shut yo mouth!" > -John -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.8 --------------- From: ralarcon@skyinet.net Subject: JLF Order Clarification Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:46:04 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT This is just to clarify Things: Available Joes are: ALL 1994 Joes* ALL 1993 Joes* ALL Super Sonic Fighters US$ 6 per 3-pack ALL 3 3/4" 30th Anniv. US$ 6 per pair ALL Mega-Monsters. US$ 6 per pair *Battle Corps, Eco-Warriors, Regular Ninja Force, Shadow Warrior Ninja Force, DEF, Super Sonic Fighters & Star Brigade (now available). *You can choose who you want in your 3-pack (e.g. 3 DEF, 2 eco-warriors & 1 star brigade, 2 star-brigade & 1 DEF, 2 DEF & 1 Ninja Force, 2 SuperSonic & 1 DEF, OR ANY 3-pack combination you like ) **Prepare back-up list in case the figure you want is unavailable. **Be specific who you want, year, version#, etc..... :) Vehicles: not sure yet but likely to be 50% off except US$25 Shark9000/Razor- Blade combo. Transformers: Not sure yet. awaiting Inventory Fax. Good Luck All, Richard --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.9 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: Warehouse finds in 3rd world countries Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:58:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810160446.VAA17727@lists1.best.com> John A Woods wrote: > > At 10:25 AM 10/13/98 -0700, you wrote: > > >Democracy does not equal stability. Quite the opposite in fact - > >democracy is the most chaotic form of government there is. Of course, > >you're probably talking about republics rather than democracies, but > >both are far less stable than monarchies. > > Yeah, but how often does a democracy instigate a world war? Never, but remember that there have been only two world wars. That's an extremely small sample. But republics have instigated other wars. Here's a few off the top of my head: All of Rome's conquests between the formation of the Republic and the Caesar/Pompey/Crassus Triumvirate. The American Revolution. The American Civil War. Admittedly, monarchies have instigated far more wars, but that's only because there have been far more monarchies than republics. > -John -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.10 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: JLF Order Clarification Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:15:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810160558.WAA03196@lists1.best.com> Can you give me an estimate of how much it would cost to ship 27 3-packs? -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.11 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: READ THIS Re: JLF Order Clarification Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:16:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810160558.WAA03196@lists1.best.com> Please disregard my last message. Now, can you give me an estimate of how much it would cost to ship 14 3-packs? -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.12 --------------- From: DrHarmoney@aol.com Subject: Joe Comic and Question for Larry Hama Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 03:16:25 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/16/98 1:46:48 AM Central Daylight Time, gijoe- errors@lists.best.com writes: << For those into the Comic Book....which is your favorite issue and why >> Issue 152 why? The heroics of Joe Colton, Ace, The origin of GI-Joe, and Larry Hama doing what he does best, writing Vietnam stories. May I ask, Mr. Hama, what you had planned for Colton? Thanks Take Care -Ray --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.13 --------------- From: "Sam Fain" Subject: Re: 98 Joes Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 03:38:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I never said I didn't agree with you about the 'former glory' part. The Joes don't even have the glory they did in 82! I completely agree with you there, the thing I was saying is that there are kids buying thse toys. I also agree that when the toys were released in 97 they were aimed at a collectors market and still will be in 98, I was just trying to make the point that there are still little kids out there spending there allowance every once in a while to bring some Joes home with them. Don't be so pessimistic about the whole thing, though, maybe somewhere in the future the Joes will reach the glory they had all throughout the 80's as the dominant toy! Then again, like you said about the MOBAT, I wouldn't hold my breath. Sam "Shade" Fain -----Original Message----- From: JSMosby61@aol.com To: gijoe@lists.best.com Date: Thursday, October 15, 1998 4:20 PM Subject: Re: 98 Joes >My opinion stands as stated....how can this accurately be described as back to >it's former glory? At the pinnacle of the RAH line, it was the hottest toy >line on the market....where I live, there are TONS of Stars and Stripes, >vehicles, and Artic 3 packs collecting dust at TRU....there are TRU's with >EVERYTHING still readily available.....and the fact they are TRU exclusive >does not bode well as I remember JOES in every store that carries toys >(WalMart, K-Mart, etc) to say that it is back to it's former glory is >incorrect (IMO). Could it return to that point? I don't know, the jury is >still out but without a movie, cartoon, comic, video game, etc, the chance of >the reurn as we remember it is truely diminished. > >And I do believe hasbro would produce a line strictly for collector's - can >you say Classic Collection? These have been marketed STRICTLY for collectors. > >Steeler (wondering when the MOBAT might be re-released but not holding his >breath) > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.14 --------------- From: "Sam Fain" Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 03:42:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep! That was the actors name all right! True he would make a good Stalker, but I think an even better Roadblock, though, he would have all of Stalker's urban drug-lord past handled with the parts he's had, so who knows, just having a little fun :-) Sam "Shade" Fain >Wasn't the black private dick who was sex machine to all the chicks played >by Richard Roundtree? You have a nice list but I think Stalker should be >played by Shaft. > >-John > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.15 --------------- From: Gaz Subject: Looking forward to Halloween? Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:47:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm just wondering if anyone will be dressing as Joe characters for Halloween this year. If so, are there any special costume bits that you are building? Like Cobra Commander's helmet for example. I finally decided to go as Shipwreck, seeing as he's my favourite character and the outfit will be easy to put together. I just hope I'll be able to convince a date to go as Polly... Gaz --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.16 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 06:33:18 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-16 03:54:25 EDT, you write: << he would have all of Stalker's urban drug-lord past handled with the parts he's had, so who knows, just having a little fun :-) >> :-o Ack! Stalker was a gang-member, but I dont think he was a drug lord!! Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.17 --------------- From: "Sam Fain" Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 06:55:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep your right, got confused, wasn't looking at his file card and mixed up warlord with drug lord. His file card states he was a warlord of a large urban street gang, not a drug lord, though one can make some assumptions that there was probably some drugs or drug-trafficking involved somewhere in his warlord career, one never knows, though! Sam "Shade" Fain -----Original Message----- From: BespinRunt@aol.com To: gijoe@lists.best.com Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 3:45 AM Subject: Re: Dream Cast >In a message dated 98-10-16 03:54:25 EDT, you write: > ><< he would have all of Stalker's > urban drug-lord past handled with the parts he's had, so who knows, just > having a little fun :-) >> >:-o >Ack! Stalker was a gang-member, but I dont think he was a drug lord!! > >Straight-Edge > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.18 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 07:12:44 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-16 07:09:10 EDT, you write: << Yep your right, got confused, wasn't looking at his file card and mixed up warlord with drug lord. His file card states he was a warlord of a large urban street gang, not a drug lord, though one can make some assumptions that there was probably some drugs or drug-trafficking involved somewhere in his warlord career, one never knows, though! >> Jeez, I always kinda respected Stalker... so in my mind, I'm gonna forget the drug thing, even tho it's most likely true... I know many a former-drug user, and no matter how reformed, I cant find a way to respect them as much, nor put them on that higher pedestil of true friendship... theres always a wall between us. Something in my personal life, what can you do? But in my fanfiction saga, Stalker is one of the best there is, and I dont think acknowledging his drug-related past will help me when writing his character. ::Puts fingers in ears, and pretends he didn't hear the conversation:: LALALALALALALALALALA Straight-Edge... daft, oh yep. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.19 --------------- From: Richard Mustakos Subject: Re: Figure Trial Run Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:09:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810160410.VAA26286@lists1.best.com> Richard Why don't you end run all this and get with a co. that does export, have them export it to (Canada, the US, etc.). If they do the paperwork (for a fee) the whole thing can be sent over by the most efficient use of volume. This would also (if Fed Ex) make it so nobody will muck it. I sent some stuff to Korea once, and I recall that Feb Ex was willing to help with the export paperwork. Good luck. (a different) Richard > Hold your horses, everyone. I'm now fixing the shipping/payment transferring agreement > with Dzirhan & Al/rocketeer. > Good Luck All > --- Richard --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.20 --------------- From: "Daniel C. Carber" Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:38:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810160446.VAA17721@lists1.best.com> >Wasn't the black private dick who was sex machine to all the chicks played >by Richard Roundtree? You have a nice list but I think Stalker should be >played by Shaft. Samuel Jackson, or maybe Denzel Washington? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Daniel C. Carber dcarber@stonehill.edu Lead Systems Administrator 508-565-1524 Department of Academic Technology Resources Stonehill College North Easton, MA 02357-4018 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.21 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Tank Jockey Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:38:55 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << two more of my favorite characters >> Who? --Big Nose --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.22 --------------- From: "Daniel C. Carber" Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Tank Jockey Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:43:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810160446.VAA17974@lists1.best.com> >>For those into the Comic Book....which is your favorite issue and why Ok, i'm a bit into the classics, so I would have to go with issue #1. The first appearance of the Joes, and cobra. We were not sure what was going to happen, when it was going to happen, or who it was going to happen to, but we knew it was going to be great. I don't think I looked forward to any issue as much as i looked forward to #2. dan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Daniel C. Carber dcarber@stonehill.edu Lead Systems Administrator 508-565-1524 Department of Academic Technology Resources Stonehill College North Easton, MA 02357-4018 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.23 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: State of RAH Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:48:45 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/16/98 7:51:26 AM !!!First Boot!!!, mm7@bellsouth.net writes: << Don't be so pessimistic about the whole thing, though, maybe somewhere in the future the Joes will reach the glory they had all throughout the 80's as the dominant toy! >> If pessimistic = realistic then I guess I am....again as I stated the jury is still out...IF Hasbro gets on the stick with a cartoon/comic/computer game tie in then the JOES could return to it's success....none of this EXTREME crap...the RAH concept was not broke and didn't need fixing....it was when they strayed from this and went a little wacky (I've gone over this before) that the line went down hill in the public's eye... collector's and fan's like us were never going to abandon the line (this is why I scour Flea Markets and the like looking for Joes, I still read the comic and even bought a copy of a cartoon recently from Blockbuster- which I have been critical of) RAH could be big once again, but it's all in the marketing. Steeler (still looking for stuff for his collection) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.24 --------------- From: Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com Subject: warehouse games Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:55:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Alright, we have a clearer indication of what is available and the primary players... has there been any conclusive plan drawn up for who gets what / how much to spend? Looks like it'll be $2 or $3 for the figures, pending what they are. Are we to be limited to $10, $30, $50, more? Obviously shipping would play a part as well. Will figures randomly be shipped to the US and split up here, or sorted prior to being sent? ie: should Al or Richard be receiving the want lists? As someone who initially collected from '82-'89, I'm looking at needing many of these later figures to fill out my collection. I'm also a big fan of the "unreleased" figures... ANyway, I'm sure this will all become clearer in the coming weeks. Regarding the '98 joes, some nice pics @ yojoe.com... my initial thoughts: like the two wetsuit figures, the polar pack (yay - another firefly phone!) and the blue/gold vipers. never cared for the original 'guard' boys, so their new figures do little for me. volga's head fondly brings back memories of '82 scarlet... i see myself swapping a lady jaye head in, as i like the outfit. don't like the gray viper. am surprised there wasn't one more 3-pack of 'joes'. a bit outnumbered, aren't they? -Kj, just watched the joe movie last night, should have stopped after the intro... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.25 --------------- From: "Jonathan Krenz" Subject: 1998 Joes Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 06:14:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT When I stated (IMHO) that G.I. Joe is back to its former glory, I was referring to the figures, not comix or TV or anything else. To me, those are all frosting on the cake, the cake being the toys. Cake is much better with frosting, but I get sick only eating frosting. I don't get sick only eating cake. While it is true that for G.I. Joe to be "back to it's former glory" might require a mass media blitz, when I was a kid I never watched the cartoon and I only had issue #50. So, for me anyway, G.I. Joe is back to it's former glory. BTW, my GST rebate arrived yesterday. I now have the Naval Assault unit and Cobra Infantry team. These sets, while not as good as the other two, are still excellent. The Naval team is missing too many accessories, though. The flipper thing I can dismiss cos I pretend Ship and Wet have underwater propulsion units built into their suits, but there's not enough guns! Who gets the manta-shaped thing? Who gets the fin gun? I gave Ship two pistols from the infantry team, so now he's an on-ship gunner in the style of John Woo. The Infantry team's pretty cool. The troopers have their rifles, and my officer uses a pistol, which might be stereotypical, but that's how I always remember the weapon distribution from Vietnam movies. Anyway, the sets are cool, I like the new Wet-Suit verses is old one, the colours actually make him look like a diver. Another thing which may or may not have been mentioned - things that should be flexible actually are! Man, was I annoyed when Ace's mask cracked into place as I attached it to his helmet last year! This year, all hoses, antennae, wires, belts, etc. are flexible. This is good news. The filecards are excellent as well. The whole Naval team filecards arer cross-referenced with each other and are overall quite funny. Actually, all the sets are cross-referenced within each set. I think that's pretty neat. And the Troopers have the most intellectual, powerful motto ever! Hmm. What else can be said? Oh yeah - are the accessories that come with the Infantry team the same as the original Viper? Jonathan Krenz k010264@niagarac.on.ca www.geocities.com/area51/rampart/5608 www.geocities.com/area51/rampart/5608/sega.html --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.26 --------------- From: ralarcon@skyinet.net Subject: JLF DELAYED OPS Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:57:30 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi ALL, Everyone, May I ask for a Slight PAUSE in the Liberation? We are having lil trouble with Customs & shipping and it took longer to fix than we thought. =( That, and we have to straighten up our personal schedule. (work, job application) Would that be alright ? If you wish, You can email me directly at this email address, privately, to verify if they are available or for any questions. I'm so sorry for this delay =( I'll post again as soon as everything clears up =) Good Luck Richard --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.27 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Favorite Comic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:43:53 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I started this thread and never responded: There are several Issues that stick out to me #5 Ahhhhhh Steeler, Tanks, ahhhhhhhhh #6-7 GI JOE vs October Guard vs Cobra #11 - this issue hooked me - Airborne, Gung Ho, DESTRO! #34 Wild Weasel and Lady Jaye - 2 favorites #40-41Cobra goes big time #73-76 Battle for Cobra Island #98 Heeeeeeeeeeeeeee's Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack Cobra Commander! #109-113 Awesome action - and a few deaths #126 Firefly reveals all #149-151 This plot was just getting good when it was cancelled Steeler --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.28 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: 1998 Joes Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:07:56 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-16 10:28:45 EDT, you write: << Hmm. What else can be said? Oh yeah - are the accessories that come with the Infantry team the same as the original Viper? >> Nope, those are Dusty 91's accessories. Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.29 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Re: Favorite Comic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:46:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---JSMosby61@aol.com wrote: > > I started this thread and never responded: > > There are several Issues that stick out to me > > #5 Ahhhhhh Steeler, Tanks, ahhhhhhhhh plus, Clutch and General Flagg almost save the day > > #6-7 GI JOE vs October Guard vs Cobra yup. > > #11 - this issue hooked me - Airborne, Gung Ho, >DESTRO! ...and Doc and Snow Job and Wild Bill... > #34 Wild Weasel and Lady Jaye - 2 favorites Cool. > #40-41Cobra goes big time especially #41! > #73-76 Battle for Cobra Island yup. > #98 Heeeeeeeeeeeeeee's Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack Cobra >Commander! Kinda good, kinda bad. > #109-113 Awesome action - and a few deaths They killed Doc! You bastards! (Sorry) > > #126 Firefly reveals all Interesting, but now everybody's a ninja... > > #149-151 This plot was just getting good when it was >cancelled I agree. Starred all of the "old school": CC, Destro, Zartan, Stormy, Snakes, Flint, LJ, Hawk and Stalker, etc.. Lemme add my own: #2 - Kwinn #26 - Snake-Eyes' in Nam; art by Larry Hama! #45 - Ripcord vs. Zartan on Cobra Island, plus Hawk gets promoted to general! #46 - continued from above; Snakes and Stormy leave a trail of bodies on their way through the Island #49-50 - Invasion of Springfield; Serpentor ain't so bad; lots of firefight #53 - The Pit gets trashed; a buncha deskdrivers kick some Cobra butt #67 - Just cuz Lady Jaye punches out Flint. Why did I enjoy that so much? #69-71 - Sierra Gordo's revolution; Roadblock expresses his views on flag-burning by nearly blowing some guy's head off; Wild Bill, some Joes and plane full o' refugees hijacked by the Dreadnoks; Destro returns his IGs Anybody else? JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n712.30 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: You'll never believe what is on EBAY Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:31:48 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not my auction but dang pretty cool Item #36044431 the 1986 Hasbro Card set w/ stickers pretty awesome! --------------- END gijoe.v001.n712 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n713 -------------- 001 - Rottweiler - Re: Favorite comic 023 - Eugene - Re: Dream Cast 024 - SNARF5181@aol.com - Re: Digest gijoe.v001.n712 025 - BespinRunt@aol.com - Re: Dream Cast 026 - Eugene - Re: Digest gijoe.v001.n712 027 - Rottweiler Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:19:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810161114.EAA29803@lists1.best.com> BespinRunt@aol.com wrote: > > Jeez, I always kinda respected Stalker... so in my mind, I'm gonna forget the > drug thing, even tho it's most likely true... > I know many a former-drug user, and no matter how reformed, I cant find a way > to respect them as much, nor put them on that higher pedestil of true > friendship... theres always a wall between us. Something in my personal life, > what can you do? Um...realize that it's incredibly shallow to think of someone as inferior because the drugs he chooses to use are not legal ones? > But in my fanfiction saga, Stalker is one of the best there is, and I dont > think acknowledging his drug-related past will help me when writing his > character. Why not? It would make him a more rounded character. Does he still use any illegal drugs? If not, why? Is it merely because he doesn't want to go to jail, or does he actually believe that illegal drugs are EVIL? You have to these kinds of questions if you want to write about a real person instead of a cardboard cut-out. > ::Puts fingers in ears, and pretends he didn't hear the conversation:: > LALALALALALALALALALA > > Straight-Edge... daft, oh yep. -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.2 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: warehouse games Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:20:37 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii KJ asked on this - so to clarify: The plan for now ( could change but go with it for now ) is for me ( AL ) to take the orders from list members and then send a large list / request to Richard. That saves him the headache of tracking all the orders ,etc. ( he will have enough problems ). Shipping is not certain yet but it seems to be about 90.00 like he said earlier for aprox 65 or so figures in the box ( whatever fits ) - so plan on adding about 1.50 ' ish ' to the costs ( still a deal ) per figure. The problem now is with Customs taxes / fees ( especially in Malaysia ) so waiting to hear from Richard. As for payment - no money being taken now by any of us - I will handle the US funds and wire em to Richards bank ( if I can get that worked out - looking good ). For now, I am not sure who is going to cover the costs ( Dzirhan offered the 100.00 but if we can pay up front that will help out all concerned I think ). Will try to keep you guys ( gals ) posted as this evelops ( delays likely but we CAN liberate these guys ) AL / rocketeer --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.3 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: Favorite Comic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:22:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810161648.JAA01932@lists1.best.com> James McFadden wrote: > > #69-71 - Sierra Gordo's revolution; Roadblock expresses his views on > flag-burning by nearly blowing some guy's head off; You don't see this as the correct response to flag-burning, do you? I mean, ignoring the fact that a soldier doesn't have the right to execute people without a trial just because they offend him, burning a piece of cloth is NOT a death penalty crime. > Wild Bill, some > Joes and plane full o' refugees hijacked by the Dreadnoks; Destro > returns his IGs > > Anybody else? > > JMM -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.4 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Looking forward to Halloween? Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:29:59 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 10/16/98 04:47:05 you wrote: > >I'm just wondering if anyone will be dressing as Joe characters >for Halloween this year. If so, are there any special costume bits that >you are building? Like Cobra Commander's helmet for example. I finally >decided to go as Shipwreck, seeing as he's my favourite character and the >outfit will be easy to put together. I just hope I'll be able to convince >a date to go as Polly... > >Gaz > > NO WAY . I am of course going as Tuxedo Melvin .. ( cause I'd look real funny is a skirted sailor suit ) Sailor AL aka: AL / rocketeer / JLA US man --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.5 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorite Comic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:53:03 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << You don't see this as the correct response to flag-burning, do you? I mean, ignoring the fact that a soldier doesn't have the right to execute people without a trial just because they offend him, burning a piece of cloth is NOT a death penalty crime. >> Uuuuuuh...he was bluffing....? --Duh --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.6 --------------- From: cedwards@tcia.net (Christopher Edwards) Subject: Favorite comic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:52:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would have to pick the swan song, #155, as my favorite. The art is too glossy and really wrong for the content, everybody wears their embarassing later costumes, and there are dead Joes on the cover mixed with the live ones. All that being said, this is still as powerful a comic book as I've ever read. It stands alone, whether you've followed the comic or not. The writing is incredibly intense and sincere, and it emphasizes the humanity of its characters. If anybody ever sneers at your kiddie, toy-based Joe comics, hand them this and shut 'em up. Superb. After that, I really like the arc from 69-71. No ninjas, not much Cobra, and a very mature plot, plus some of the best interior art in the series. Hawk gets to be a character. When this one came out, I thought Roadblock's flag-burning diatribe was a bit much-looking at it now, though, it works pretty well. That's what Roadblock would do. 21 and 26. 21 raised the bar for the comic, and launched the continuity that would be the central axis of the comic for a good part of its run. And 26 just breathes with maturity, I never get tired of reading it. 45-47-Zeck covers, Whigham art inside, tons of action and lots of cool revelations. This was the most exciting time to be reading Joe for me. Right around the corner, Serpentor, Sgt. Slaughter and Ripcord disguised as Zartan. But for this run of issues, the tops. And #1-Bought from the rack at Pages in Mount Airy, NC, just before I got out of the fourth grade. I read it over and over, the start of it all. High John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.7 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorite Comic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:54:35 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While I did not post the comment, and have no opinion on the subject, the fact the guy was on US property (all embassy's are) during a state of revolution and being destructive to the contents would justify shooting him IMO...not necessarily because of the flag In a message dated 10/16/98 6:50:33 PM !!!First Boot!!!, crazyguy@cnnw.net writes: << You don't see this as the correct response to flag-burning, do you? I mean, ignoring the fact that a soldier doesn't have the right to execute people without a trial just because they offend him, burning a piece of cloth is NOT a death penalty crime. >> --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.8 --------------- From: Dawn Greider Subject: Re: Looking forward to Halloween? Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:05:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810161832.LAA14204@lists1.best.com> rktmoose@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > On 10/16/98 04:47:05 you wrote: > > > >I'm just wondering if anyone will be dressing as Joe characters > >for Halloween this year. If so, are there any special costume bits that > >you are building? Like Cobra Commander's helmet for example. I finally > >decided to go as Shipwreck, seeing as he's my favourite character and the > >outfit will be easy to put together. I just hope I'll be able to convince > >a date to go as Polly... > > > >GAZ Yes I am. I'm going as Snake Eyes because his black costume makes it easy to dissappear into the night after egging or TPing a house. -Hurricane (anarchist commando) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.9 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Re: Favorite Comic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:14:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---Rottweiler wrote: > > James McFadden wrote: > > > > #69-71 - Sierra Gordo's revolution; Roadblock expresses his views on > > flag-burning by nearly blowing some guy's head off; > > You don't see this as the correct response to flag-burning, do you? I > mean, ignoring the fact that a soldier doesn't have the right to execute > people without a trial just because they offend him, burning a piece of > cloth is NOT a death penalty crime. Uh, I'm just kind of joking. I like the scene. They're in an embassy being looted. One guy's about to burn the Amer. flag with a lighter. Roadblock tells him not to do that while pointing his huge machine gun at him. The guy says, "Why me? There are people stealing IBM typewriters!" Roadblock answers, "Nobody ever died for a typewriter." Yeah, it's kind of corny, but I like it. Besides, I don't really think he was gonna shoot him. Personally, on the subject of flag-burning, I think you shouldn't do it, but you can if you want to. Okay, back to the "favorite comic" discussion. Please. JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.10 --------------- From: Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com Subject: Digest gijoe.v001.n712 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:13:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline >For those into the Comic Book....which is your favorite issue and why seems as though my copies of #34 and #53 received a lot of re-reads... #34 with the outstanding air battle, and i wanted to be a pilot before i learned my eyes would kill that idea... #53 with the anniversary snake eyes cover and the PIT battle. speaking of comics, does anyone else have any original art? >Wasn't the black private dick who was sex machine to all the chicks played >by Richard Roundtree? You have a nice list but I think Stalker should be >played by Shaft. I say let's arm Stalker with a couple of Colt 45s and call in Billy Dee Williams! Richard asked: > Everyone, May I ask for a Slight PAUSE in the Liberation? surely. It's a wonderful bonus, but hardly should be the first thing on your mind. (Though I am rather curious as to which year's transformers are bouncing around there... some late 80s target/head masters would be "too sweeeet") (KJ) --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.11 --------------- From: SNARF5181@aol.com Subject: Re: JLA update Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:23:05 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/15/98 11:03:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rktmoose@ix.netcom.com writes: << If I can get, say a pak with two eco war ( plus a DEF ) and then another with one DEF, one Eco and a Battle Corp - then the Eco war ' wantee' will get three but no guarantees that there will be certain figures in each 3 pak ( right , Richard ? ) >> also, werent DEF 92? does this mean they have 92 figs cause i thought it was just 93&94 --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.12 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Tank Jockey Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:38:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:38 AM 10/16/98 EDT, you wrote: ><< two more of my favorite characters >> > >Who? >--Big Nose I thought I described that in my orginal message. The origin of Snake Eyes comic covers the origin of not only my #1 favorite character, Snake Eyes, but also the origin of Stalker and Storm Shadow, two of my other favorites (#2 and #3 after Snake Eyes). -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.13 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: 98 Joes Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:38:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:38 AM 10/16/98 -0700, you wrote: >point that there are still little kids out there spending there allowance >every once in a while to bring some Joes home with them. Don't be so But WHY are those kids buying them? Do they think they like them because they are better articulated and accessorized than say Star Wars toys? Or are these kids buying them because they think they are the new members of the CORPS!! -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.14 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: "least favorite" Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:41:55 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok here's a toughie least favorite Joe, Cobra, Comic, vehicle, etc --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.15 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:32:14 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-16 14:50:34 EDT, you write: << Um...realize that it's incredibly shallow to think of someone as inferior because the drugs he chooses to use are not legal ones >> It probably is, I mean, youre right. It doesnt make them bad people, in fact, most of the people I know have been there at one point in their lives... Perhaps it would be better if I said that I'd rather not deal with such a negative thing... Theres too much of it in my life, and Stalker just never struck me as that kind of person. He was two dimensional in that way. I'm not looking to expand on that. he's a good soldier, and I have him replacing Duke as head badass, no need for him to be an ex-drug offender bad-ass.. He's a proffessional, and as such, its a given that he knows drugs are evil. Hence, its something I' like to look past. Sorry if I offended anyone, now if I could get a little help extricating my foot from my over-sized mouth Straight-Edge, licking toes for a living. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.16 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorite Comic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:40:24 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-16 15:31:40 EDT, you write: << While I did not post the comment, and have no opinion on the subject, the fact the guy was on US property (all embassy's are) during a state of revolution and being destructive to the contents would justify shooting him IMO...not necessarily because of the flag >> Yup, I think thats the motivation behind Roadblock's actions. Not destruction of the flag, but tresspassing on US property, *and* attempt at burning the flag. Thats why the guy asked why him, instead of the people who were looting the typewriters... T\Even the vandal knew Roadblock had the legal and political right to shoot any of them. But he chose the one guy, cuz of what he was doing, symbolically to the US. Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.17 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Digest gijoe.v001.n712 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:43:01 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-16 15:51:35 EDT, you write: << #53 with the anniversary snake eyes cover and the PIT battle. >> I hated that cover, not because of the cool Snake-Eyes cover, but because of the stupid Marvel characters jumping around the border... The plain cover (as shown in the yearbook) would have been much much cooler... Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.18 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorite comic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:37:07 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-16 15:30:27 EDT, you write: << there are dead Joes on the cover mixed with the live ones. >> "The bond between those who have been through combat together is a brotherhood sealed in blood and watched over by the ghosts of those who fell." My question would have to be to Mr. Hama, was the inclusion of Quick Kick (and I beieve Breaker) on the cover a conscious move, or just serendipidous, and I'm justifying it like any good anal fanboy... and if so, can I get a no- prize? Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.19 --------------- From: GIJoe@aol.com Subject: fav comic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:37:31 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/16/98 15:51:35 Eastern Daylight Time, Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com writes: << #34 >> I have to agree with Matt on this. #34 is one of the best ones made. It showed not only that in some manner Joes did maintain a level of professional respect, but that the Cobras did too. The best single frame ever was that of Ace and Wild Weasel saluting each other while their planes did the final flyby as they realized they were both out of ammo. Later John M. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.20 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: 98 Joes Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:55:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh;come on,I don't think even a kid could mistake CORPS! figures for joes! Like most of us in the eighties,kids nowadays WILL realize that gijoe is a far better toy than Star Wars (or lego,for that matter,I remember buying A LOT of lego before gijoe was released in Belgium!) Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.21 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: "least favorite" Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:58:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Least favorite? When I was a kid : Cobra commander in Fred uniform,I thought he looked awful, Nowadays,WINDMILL,all I can say is, YUCK,YUCK,YUCK,YUCK!!!!!!!!!! Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.22 --------------- From: Eugene Subject: Re: Favorite comic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:01:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" In-Reply-To: <199810162106.OAA17270@lists1.best.com> G.I.Joe #21. I think I read that comic book a zillion times over when I was a kid. Knew a guy who hated comic books - a former collector who stopped collecting because he hated the way comics had become. He HATED comic books (especially Image comics). One day, he looked at my comics and saw G.I.Joe #21 sitting on top. He gasped, "Now THAT was one kick-ass comic book." Nuff said. -Eugene ------------------------------------------------------------ eugenE | YO JOE! |--------------------------------------- eson(*)yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! ------------------------------------------------------------ "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" ------------------------------------------------------------ "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.23 --------------- From: Eugene Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:54:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" In-Reply-To: <199810161102.EAA25861@lists1.best.com> As a video game nut, I thought to myself, "Wow - people are discussing Sega's new Dreamcast? Cool!" Then it turns out to be a thread about movies. I can't be the only video game nut here. If you haven't seen it, I did a 3 3/4" custom fig of Lara Croft. Figured she fit pretty easily into the Joe mythos. I've been playing Metal Gear Solid for my Playstation lately - AWESOME game, by the way. Highly recommended. As soon as I'm done with it, I'm going to have to consider making a custom version of the game's hero, Solid Snake, and some of the villains, like Revolver Ocelot and Shaman Raven. Any other video games that I should look to for cool custom figs? >His file card states he was a warlord of a large >urban street gang, not a drug lord, though one can make some assumptions >that there was probably some drugs or drug-trafficking involved somewhere in >his warlord career, one never knows, though! I don't know if we can just assume that Stalker was once a drug dealer. Stalker would've been a gang member in the 1960s - a very different era than what we've seen become gang culture in the 80s and 90s. Today, the term "gang" is just a nice way of saying "drug pusher". The gangs Stalker would've been with would've been closer to "The Jets" and "The Sharks" from West Side Story, just not as squeaky clean and good looking. And much less singing and dancing. :) -Eugene ------------------------------------------------------------ eugenE | YO JOE! |--------------------------------------- eson(*)yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! ------------------------------------------------------------ "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" ------------------------------------------------------------ "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.24 --------------- From: SNARF5181@aol.com Subject: Re: Digest gijoe.v001.n712 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:49:04 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/16/98 5:33:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BespinRunt@aol.com writes: << I hated that cover, not because of the cool Snake-Eyes cover, but because of the stupid Marvel characters jumping around the border... >> Argghh I hate all of my comics that have this type of cover --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.25 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:40:22 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-16 18:28:16 EDT, you write: << I don't know if we can just assume that Stalker was once a drug dealer. Stalker would've been a gang member in the 1960s - a very different era than what we've seen become gang culture in the 80s and 90s. Today, the term "gang" is just a nice way of saying "drug pusher". The gangs Stalker would've been with would've been closer to "The Jets" and "The Sharks" from West Side Story, just not as squeaky clean and good looking. And much less singing and dancing. :) >> See, Eugene said it without getting his foot stuck in his mouth... why am I the only one to do this... I don't like the taste of shoe leather... Straight-Edge...spittings sole for hours now... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.26 --------------- From: Eugene Subject: Re: Digest gijoe.v001.n712 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:17:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" In-Reply-To: <199810161918.MAA17334@lists1.best.com> At 3:13 PM -0400 10/16/98, Matt_Krajewski@progressive.com wrote: > >speaking of comics, does anyone else have any original art? I've got one piece - the Dreadnok pin-up by Michael Zeck from G.I.Joe Yearbook #3. Paid $40 for it back in 1987 when Michael Zeck appeared at a comic book con in Anaheim, CA. There's a pic of it up at . I haven't seen much original G.I.Joe comic book art floating around. Probably because of the lack of demand, but I've been looking. I talked to one lucky dude who has the original George Perez Baroness pin-up. -Eugene ------------------------------------------------------------ eugenE | YO JOE! |--------------------------------------- eson(*)yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! ------------------------------------------------------------ "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" ------------------------------------------------------------ "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.27 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: Favorite Comic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:24:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810161914.MAA13800@lists1.best.com> James McFadden wrote: > > Uh, I'm just kind of joking. I like the scene. They're in an embassy > being looted. One guy's about to burn the Amer. flag with a lighter. > Roadblock tells him not to do that while pointing his huge machine gun > at him. The guy says, "Why me? There are people stealing IBM > typewriters!" Roadblock answers, "Nobody ever died for a typewriter." > Yeah, it's kind of corny, but I like it. Besides, I don't really think > he was gonna shoot him. Okay. I don't have that issue, so I assumed that Roadblock saw someone burning a flag and just opened fire, with the intent to kill the guy. But you know what happens when someone assumes... > > Personally, on the subject of flag-burning, I think you shouldn't do > it, but you can if you want to. Agreed. I don't approve of it, but it shouldn't be a crime. > > Okay, back to the "favorite comic" discussion. Please. Okay. > > JMM -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.28 --------------- From: jerdlngr@juno.com (Jean E Riedlinger) Subject: Re: Favorite Comic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:36:10 -0400 References: <199810162100.OAA13235@lists1.best.com> #67 - because LJ beats up Flint (and the hug, too). Big, macho Flint gets knocked on his ass by a girl, with people watching :) -Doc -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I used to be with it, but then they changed what 'it' was. Now what I'm with isn't 'it' and what IS 'it' is weird and scary to me." -Grandpa Simpson ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.29 --------------- From: "Sam Fain" Subject: Re: 98 Joes Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:33:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit They're buying them because they're the best military action figures ever made and it shows! Jeesh, you'd think if you liked G.I. Joe you wouldn't be trying to give reasons on why it's not going to make it! Sam "Shade" Fain -----Original Message----- From: John A Woods To: gijoe@lists.best.com Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 2:25 PM Subject: Re: 98 Joes >At 03:38 AM 10/16/98 -0700, you wrote: >>point that there are still little kids out there spending there allowance >>every once in a while to bring some Joes home with them. Don't be so > >But WHY are those kids buying them? Do they think they like them because >they are better articulated and accessorized than say Star Wars toys? Or are >these kids buying them because they think they are the new members of the >CORPS!! > >-John > > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n713.30 --------------- From: "Sam Fain" Subject: Re: Favorite comic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:36:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >G.I.Joe #21. I think I read that comic book a zillion times over when I >was a kid. > As I recall there wasn't a lot of reading to be done ;-) >Knew a guy who hated comic books - a former collector who stopped >collecting because he hated the way comics had become. He HATED comic >books (especially Image comics). One day, he looked at my comics and saw >G.I.Joe #21 sitting on top. He gasped, "Now THAT was one kick-ass comic >book." > >Nuff said. > > >-Eugene >------------------------------------------------------------ > eugenE | YO JOE! > |--------------------------------------- > eson(*)yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! >------------------------------------------------------------ > "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not > believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift > from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they > got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." > - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" >------------------------------------------------------------ > "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you > ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard >------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------- END gijoe.v001.n713 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n714 -------------- 001 - Veritech1A@webtv.net (Rod - Re: "least favorite" 002 - "Sam Fain" From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: "least favorite" Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:41:55 EDT BestServHost: lists.best.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gijoe-errors@lists.best.com Errors-To: gijoe-errors@lists.best.com Reply-To: gijoe@lists.best.com To: gijoe@lists.best.com Ok here's a toughie least favorite Joe, Cobra, Comic, vehicle, etc --WebTV-Mail-810457100-7645-- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.2 --------------- From: "Sam Fain" Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:44:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>His file card states he was a warlord of a large >>urban street gang, not a drug lord, though one can make some assumptions >>that there was probably some drugs or drug-trafficking involved somewhere in >>his warlord career, one never knows, though! > >I don't know if we can just assume that Stalker was once a drug dealer. >Stalker would've been a gang member in the 1960s - a very different era >than what we've seen become gang culture in the 80s and 90s. Today, the >term "gang" is just a nice way of saying "drug pusher". > >The gangs Stalker would've been with would've been closer to "The Jets" and >"The Sharks" from West Side Story, just not as squeaky clean and good >looking. And much less singing and dancing. :) > > Not true at all, during the late 60's(when Stalker would have been the 'warlord') gangs were making the transition from organized mobs a la The Godfather to the street gangs involved with narcotics! The main reason many mafia groups started to go legit was for the reason they didn't want to dirty there hands with drugs, sounds wierd but 100% true(well more like 75% there were quite a few mobsters that got sucked into drugs). So I imagine Stalker had at least a little dabbling with drugs if not a lot. Check more into your recent history books and you'll see what I mean. Sam "Shade" Fain >-Eugene >------------------------------------------------------------ > eugenE | YO JOE! > |--------------------------------------- > eson(*)yojoe.com | Fight SPAM! >------------------------------------------------------------ > "O'Shawn was obsessed with the Trojan War. He could not > believe an army could be so stupid as to accept a gift > from its enemy during wartime. Particularly when they > got close to the wooden horse and heard giggling inside." > - Woody Allen, "The Irish Genius" >------------------------------------------------------------ > "Writing is the only profession where no one considers you > ridiculous if you earn no money." - Jules Renard >------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.3 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: chat Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:47:41 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do I get there...someone any one help me --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.4 --------------- From: "Sigi Goode (The Funk Phenomenon)" Subject: Re: Favorite Comic Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:15:51 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <199810161914.MAA13800@lists1.best.com> In-Reply-To: <199810162324.QAA06016@lists1.best.com> At 16:24 16/10/98 -0700, you wrote: >James McFadden wrote: >> >> The guy says, "Why me? There are people stealing IBM >> typewriters!" Roadblock answers, "Nobody ever died for a typewriter." >> Yeah, it's kind of corny, but I like it. Besides, I don't really think >> he was gonna shoot him. > >Okay. I don't have that issue, so I assumed that Roadblock saw someone >burning a flag and just opened fire, with the intent to kill the guy. This has probably already been mentioned (or else it's common knowledge and I'm blissfully unaware of it) but there used to be a quip that "no one ever got fired for buying IBM" back when Big Blue really was BIG. I'd reckon that's where the typewriter quip came from. Sigi Codename: Afterburner -------------------------------------- The custom Joe filecards repository: http://members.xoom.com/filecards Check out the cards or submit one of your own! --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.5 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorite Comic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:46:38 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-16 19:43:02 EDT, you write: << Okay. I don't have that issue, so I assumed that Roadblock saw someone burning a flag and just opened fire, with the intent to kill the guy. But you know what happens when someone assumes... >> Actually, the Joes were entereing the American Embassy in Sierra Gordo, and there were looters everywhere, stealing all manner of things. One guy had a lighter and a bottle of liquor (assumed) and was ready to burn the flag. Roadblock just pointed his .50 caliber at the man and asked him to cease and desist (sp). The guy asks why RB is stopping him, when others are walking out with Typewriters and such.. RB replies that no one ever died for a typewriter... It wasn't a bluff, RB had every intention of shooting him, but the guy cuts the flame, and hops off the tabel he was standing on. Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.6 --------------- From: SNARF5181@aol.com Subject: Re: Christmas Catalogue Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:01:50 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was wondering if anyone knew anything about the 3 3/4 figs in the Christmas catalogue every year (sears, jc penny's or macys) it like $20 and its 16 figs are they Joe repaints or the same quality -- one looked like recondo anyway, i was just wondering what people knew of these so i don't waste my $$$ if they're crap ---Snarf --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.7 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: 98 Joes Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:36:56 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Excuse me jr, I've been collecting Joes since the 12 inch originals....what I said and know to be the truth is that for the general non-collecting public to buy Joes and make it the toy that we all remember there has to be a marketing plan and there is not one....I want JOE to be a smashing success but they aren't even running TV spots...I'll buy my fair share of the 98's (Cobra 3 packs a plenty!!!) as I did the 97's In a message dated 10/17/98 12:24:20 AM !!!First Boot!!!, mm7@bellsouth.net writes: << They're buying them because they're the best military action figures ever made and it shows! Jeesh, you'd think if you liked G.I. Joe you wouldn't be trying to give reasons on why it's not going to make it! >> --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.8 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorite Comic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:52:04 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << #67 - because LJ beats up Flint (and the hug, too). Big, macho Flint gets knocked on his ass by a girl, with people watching :) -Doc >> ....and later he scores with that girl (i don't think anyone was watching, but ya never know, Zartan seems to show up at the oddest occassions). Yep, Flint's the all-american hero all right! --Mr. Peeppers --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.9 --------------- From: ralarcon@skyinet.net Subject: RE: Alternative shipment costs. cheap or $$$$ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 03:12:31 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi All, Aside from the much cheaper Malaysian re-routing. Alternatively, I can ship direct but it's costly: DHL JUMBO BOX US destinations: US$ 88 10Kg. US$9.50/Kg Overweight Box Dimension: 44cm x 35cm x27cm US$168 25Kg. US$9.50/Kg Overweight Box Dimension: 48cm x 45cm x35cm I have yet to ask fedex.I guess this is for those Big Spenders :) though there aren't any customs problems when it's shipped direct. This is just to remind everyone again, the unreliable mails locally are in the sea/air ports, where looting occurs. poor freight security. fedex & DHL has better freight security & insurance. unless I can find someone I trust going to the US or Malaysia. The delay should clear up in a few days, but we CAN liberate them. ;) It's just that we are being very slow & very cautious to avoid losses. Slow & Easy.... in the meantime, this gives some a chance to save up or make a better decision. Good Luck ;) Lastly, the shipping costs will only be calculated AFTER all orders are taken in bec we'll find out by then the fedex costs and Malaysian rerouting and divide it by the total number. (note: I'm not asking any cash up front yet). The more people get in on this, the cheaper the whole thing gets. Which is another reason why I didn't put any profits so it won't cost an arm & a leg. Just a hand & a few fingers. :) Good Luck all & take it easy, (no rush, we're not going to run out) Richard ps email me privately for trade referrence or any enquiries. --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.10 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: Alternative shipment costs. cheap or $$$$ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:58:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810170132.SAA10925@lists1.best.com> ralarcon@skyinet.net wrote: > > Hi All, > Aside from the much cheaper Malaysian re-routing. > Alternatively, I can ship direct but it's costly: (snip) I'll take the cheap route, unless I might not get my order. -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.11 --------------- From: Corey & Angela Stinson Subject: Re: Christmas Catalogue Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:33:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199810170010.RAA06090@lists1.best.com> At 08:01 PM 10/16/98 EDT, you wrote: >I was wondering if anyone knew anything about the 3 3/4 figs in the Christmas >catalogue every year (sears, jc penny's or macys) >it like $20 and its 16 figs >are they Joe repaints or the same quality -- one looked like recondo >anyway, i was just wondering what people knew of these so i don't waste my $$$ >if they're crap > ---Snarf These are Corps! figures from Lanard. If you are expecting Joe quality be careful, but they are nice figures if you are interested in 3 3/4" action figures in general. You can pick up a LOT of information on Lanard's 3 3/4" figure toy line at -- _________________________________________________________________________ // Corey Stinson || stinson@anet-stl.com \\ \\ Systems Programmer || corey@masterclock.com // // Real-Time Applications & Embedded Systems || \\ \\ GUI Application Development || // // World Wide Web & CGI Development || \\ \\ C/C++/Visual C++ (MFC)/Assembler || // // DOS/Windows 3.x '95 NT/Netware/Un*x || \\ \\ ------------------------------------------++----------------------------// // No Love Stronger / No Pain Greater / No Hate Deeper / The Church Within \\ \\____- The Obsessed ______________________________________________________// --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.12 --------------- From: "Sam Fain" Subject: Re: 98 Joes Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:55:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I completely agree with that!!!! I NEVER said that the Joes were back to their former glory! That was someone else, all I said is for someone who likes G.I. Joe so much you're sounding really negative. One can always hope that in the future a marketing plan, and a good one at that, will be whipped up. As for your first comment, there's no need to call me jr. in a derogatory way, at least that's how I took it. I'm glad to see someone who's been collecting since the 12 inchers and is into the 3 3/4 inchers as well! Especially someone enthusiastic enough to join the mailing list. I never meant for this to turn into a semi-flame type deal here, just was trying to make a few points, for the most part I agree with you, I just try to think positive that maybe the Joes will be returned to even half their former and that'll make me happy! Right now it's nice to have figures coming out even if they are just glorified re-releases, but I feel they're in no way near a former glory, quality or figure standings otherwise, the only way in my eyes that the Joe figures will take back THEIR glory(figures only here) is when we get NEW molds of old and original figures and see half and aisle top to bottom of Joe items and see singles instead of just three-packs(not that I mind the 3-packs, but the singles were just what made the toy) and lastly some NEW vehicles. Again I agree with you on just about all accounts except for what seems to me your negativity on the subject. Sam "Shade" Fain -----Original Message----- From: JSMosby61@aol.com To: gijoe@lists.best.com Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 6:12 PM Subject: Re: 98 Joes >Excuse me jr, I've been collecting Joes since the 12 inch originals....what I >said and know to be the truth is that for the general non-collecting public to >buy Joes and make it the toy that we all remember there has to be a marketing >plan and there is not one....I want JOE to be a smashing success but they >aren't even running TV spots...I'll buy my fair share of the 98's (Cobra 3 >packs a plenty!!!) as I did the 97's > > >In a message dated 10/17/98 12:24:20 AM !!!First Boot!!!, mm7@bellsouth.net >writes: > ><< They're buying them because they're the best military action figures ever > made and it shows! Jeesh, you'd think if you liked G.I. Joe you wouldn't be > trying to give reasons on why it's not going to make it! >> > --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.13 --------------- From: jerdlngr@juno.com (Jean E Riedlinger) Subject: Re: Favorite Comic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:38:23 -0400 References: <199810170106.SAA17823@lists1.best.com> On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:52:04 EDT BADSCNAME@aol.com writes: >....and later he scores with that girl (i don't think anyone was >watching, >but ya never know, Zartan seems to show up at the oddest occassions). >Yep, >Flint's the all-american hero all right! >--Mr. Peeppers > He does? When? Are we talking about #72 when they're doing something we don't see (but can probably imagine) and are interrupted by that Cobra guy? Or is there something else of interest I'm missing? Anyway, I should really be writing a paper now...on the other hand, in five years my master's degree will be obsolete, but I'll still be a Joe fan. -Doc, who has her priorities straight. :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I used to be with it, but then they changed what 'it' was. Now what I'm with isn't 'it' and what IS 'it' is weird and scary to me." -Grandpa Simpson ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.14 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: artwork Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:07:53 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Eugene mentioned he had one page of original art . NICE 8-) ( I'm jealous ..) Anyways, anyone , who has any of the animation cels ?? I know there was a post regarding this a while back ( don't recall who ) from someone who found a couple. Having just purchased my first cels I would very much like to add a GI JOe cel as the foundation for a collection. Anyone know of a source for these ? ( or other cels ? , ? realistic prices ? ) AL / rocketeer --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.15 --------------- From: James McFadden Subject: Cartoon gets some respect Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:28:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In the latest issue of Wizard's "Toons" magazine, they list the top 25 coolest cartoons of all time. G.I. Joe is #17. I think it just shows you that most of the guys who run Wizard are in their 20s. Just for the record, all of the original Looney Tunes made the #1 spot. No Transformers, though... JMM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.16 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: 98 Joes Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:01:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:33 PM 10/16/98 -0700, you wrote: >They're buying them because they're the best military action figures ever >made and it shows! Jeesh, you'd think if you liked G.I. Joe you wouldn't be >trying to give reasons on why it's not going to make it! But the Corps are easier to get and few kids remember who a Real American Hero is and was. I think they are buying them because they think they are a special team (like BF 2000 or eco warriors was to RAH) of the CORPS! -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.17 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: "least favorite" Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:00:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:58 PM 10/16/98 +0200, you wrote: >Least favorite? > >When I was a kid : Cobra commander in >Fred uniform,I thought he looked awful, > >Nowadays,WINDMILL,all I can say is, >YUCK,YUCK,YUCK,YUCK!!!!!!!!!! Yeah I hate that uniform too. I actually think its a decent uniform but it is not the right one for CC, it doesn't look CC. I think I would've liked Serpentor more if I he had the Fred CC armor instead of that yellow superhero costume. That pogo ship was also really bad. I suppose it would be a hard thing to hit but the pogo would also have a hard aiming its weapons. -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.18 --------------- From: John A Woods Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:01:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:54 PM 10/16/98 -0700, you wrote: >I've been playing Metal Gear Solid for my Playstation lately - AWESOME >game, by the way. Highly recommended. As soon as I'm done with it, I'm >going to have to consider making a custom version of the game's hero, Solid >Snake, and some of the villains, like Revolver Ocelot and Shaman Raven. Sorry for being off topic but I'm not a video game nut, at least not anymore. Anyhow is this playstation Metal Gear game of any relation to that really awesome 8 bit Nintendo game? The one where you are a one man commando who has to find weapons and gadgets to beat the bad guys? If so I may have to look into buying a new game system, thats how much I loved that game! BTW I've been meaning to ask, anyone have list of GI Joe video games? >Any other video games that I should look to for cool custom figs? Duke Nukem >I don't know if we can just assume that Stalker was once a drug dealer. >Stalker would've been a gang member in the 1960s - a very different era >than what we've seen become gang culture in the 80s and 90s. Today, the >term "gang" is just a nice way of saying "drug pusher". I'm not a drug historian but weren't most illegal drugs in the 60s a part of the hippie scene? They became a real problem towards the end of the 60s and in the 70s when organised crime (and street gangs) started to get involved and took over from the hippies who were becoming more interested in using than dealing. But I'd have to agree with your view on 60s gangs. 30 years ago, gangs were more about beating up each other and stealing hubcaps and vandalism. Also since Stalker was in Vietnam he was likly in the army by the time street gangs were getting into dealing dope and the like. God, you really have to like a comic book when you start comparing these 2-d characters with real life! >The gangs Stalker would've been with would've been closer to "The Jets" and >"The Sharks" from West Side Story, just not as squeaky clean and good >looking. And much less singing and dancing. :) Well when he was in Vietnam, I bet he smoked a little dope after than snake eyes affair. But as for Stalker's drug abuse I'll wait until Larry Hama publishes the long awaited tales of Stalker's days as disco king after he got back from vietnam. Snake went to Japan, Stalker went to Studio 54 for some Saturday night fever! Right Larry?! -John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.19 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Dream Cast Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 08:03:04 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-17 04:17:59 EDT, you write: << Anyhow is this playstation Metal Gear game of any relation to that really awesome 8 bit Nintendo game? >> yup, The lead character is Solid Snake... I believe there was an 8-bit sequel, Snake's Revenge, or something like that, as well. Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.20 --------------- From: "man9" Subject: Re: Cartoon gets some respect Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:19:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >In the latest issue of Wizard's "Toons" magazine, >they list the top 25 coolest cartoons of all time. G.I. Joe is #17. I >think it just shows you that most of the guys who run Wizard are in >their 20s. > >Just for the record, all of the original Looney Tunes made the #1 >spot. No Transformers, though... I think if you read the rest of that list, you'll realize that many of the cartoons that belong there aren't, and many that are there shouldn't be. G.I. Joe was one of the few that should be. For example, IIRC, South Park is on there. Now South Park is great, it cracks me up, but I don't think it is more deserving than, say, Transformers. Shipwreck --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.21 --------------- From: BespinRunt@aol.com Subject: Re: Cartoon gets some respect Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:39:12 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-17 10:35:37 EDT, you write: << For example, IIRC, South Park is on there. Now South Park is great, it cracks me up, but I don't think it is more deserving than, say, Transformers. >> too true, SP is a pretty new occurance, and to say it has the staying power of a four seson show like Transformers is ludicrous. I bet by next year everyone will have forgotten about Satn, Kenny, Cartman, and Kyle... "Oh, sunnva..." Straight-Edge --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.22 --------------- From: Pawsha@aol.com Subject: Re: Cartoon gets some respect Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:36:54 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/17/98 7:35:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, man9@earthlink.net writes: > >In the latest issue of Wizard's "Toons" magazine, > >they list the top 25 coolest cartoons of all time. G.I. Joe is #17. I > >think it just shows you that most of the guys who run Wizard are in > >their 20s. I think GI Joe should of been in the top 5. > >Just for the record, all of the original Looney Tunes made the #1 > >spot. No Transformers, though... I used to love Transformers. I never really liked Looney Tunes a lot though. > I think if you read the rest of that list, you'll realize that many of the > cartoons that belong there aren't, and many that are there shouldn't be. > G.I. Joe was one of the few that should be. Can someone tell me the whole list? Or do I have to find it from an earlier post? > For example, IIRC, South Park is on there. Now South Park is great, it > cracks me up, but I don't think it is more deserving than, say, > Transformers. South Park?!?!?! South Park is funny, but the jokes are the same, everything is the same and gets boring, and they say it's one of the best of ALL-TIME?!?! I think that's crazy. If anyone cartoon like that should be in it, it should be the Simpsons! And what's IIRC? Josh Scott Pawsha@aol.com --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.23 --------------- From: Adam Casey Subject: This will make you cry. Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:30:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.mindspring.com/~dkalbe/proud.htm --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.24 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: 98 Joes Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 16:16:10 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Agreed on what you said....again I don't see my attitude as negative, more focused anger/disappointment at Hasbro for not doing more then they could/should. If the Jr, comment was offensive, I apologize as none was meant --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.25 --------------- From: "man9" Subject: Re: Cartoon gets some respect Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:27:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> For example, IIRC, South Park is on there. Now South Park is great, it >> cracks me up, but I don't think it is more deserving than, say, >> Transformers. > >South Park?!?!?! South Park is funny, but the jokes are the same, everything >is the same and gets boring, and they say it's one of the best of ALL-TIME?!?! >I think that's crazy. If anyone cartoon like that should be in it, it should >be the Simpsons! I believe (and this is working off of memory, here) that The Simpsons was #2. >And what's IIRC? If I Recall Correctly. It's a moderately-used abbreviation. Shipwreck --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.26 --------------- From: Veritech1A@webtv.net (Rod Stuberg) Subject: Re: Cartoon gets some respect Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:11:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary=WebTV-Mail-1087974059-852 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit --WebTV-Mail-1087974059-852 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit For those who don't have the 'Toons' magazine, here is their Top 25 list: 25. Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures 24. Courageous Cat & Minute Mouse 23. The Flintstones 22. Beavis & Butthead 21. Jonny Quest (old one) 20. Peanuts Specials 19. Dungeons & Dragons 18. Challenge of the Superfriends 17. GI JOE 16. The Herculoids 15. Spider- Man (the Ralph Bakshi one) 14. Popeye 13. Ren & Stimpy 12. Tom & Jerry 11. Speed Racer 10. Pinky & the Brain 9. Battle of the Planets 8. Rocky & Bullwinkle 7. Gigantor 6. Scooby-Doo 5. Robotech 4. Superman (1941-1943) 3. Batman:TAS 2. Simpsons 1. Looney Tunes Budo --WebTV-Mail-1087974059-852 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net [207.79.35.91]) by postoffice-221.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/po.gso.24Feb98) with ESMTP id JAA17250; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists1.best.com (lists1.best.com [206.86.8.15]) by mailsorter-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id JAA07845; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists1.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.ls) id JAA03813; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810171644.JAA03813@lists1.best.com> From: Pawsha@aol.com Subject: Re: Cartoon gets some respect Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:36:54 EDT BestServHost: lists.best.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gijoe-errors@lists.best.com Errors-To: gijoe-errors@lists.best.com Reply-To: gijoe@lists.best.com To: gijoe@lists.best.com In a message dated 10/17/98 7:35:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, man9@earthlink.net writes: > >In the latest issue of Wizard's "Toons" magazine, > >they list the top 25 coolest cartoons of all time. G.I. Joe is #17. I > >think it just shows you that most of the guys who run Wizard are in > >their 20s. I think GI Joe should of been in the top 5. > >Just for the record, all of the original Looney Tunes made the #1 > >spot. No Transformers, though... I used to love Transformers. I never really liked Looney Tunes a lot though. > I think if you read the rest of that list, you'll realize that many of the > cartoons that belong there aren't, and many that are there shouldn't be. > G.I. Joe was one of the few that should be. Can someone tell me the whole list? Or do I have to find it from an earlier post? > For example, IIRC, South Park is on there. Now South Park is great, it > cracks me up, but I don't think it is more deserving than, say, > Transformers. South Park?!?!?! South Park is funny, but the jokes are the same, everything is the same and gets boring, and they say it's one of the best of ALL-TIME?!?! I think that's crazy. If anyone cartoon like that should be in it, it should be the Simpsons! And what's IIRC? Josh Scott Pawsha@aol.com --WebTV-Mail-1087974059-852-- --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.27 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Cartoon comments Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 16:46:38 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK, comments on these : >For those who don't have the 'Toons' magazine, here is their Top 25 >list: > >25. Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures The new adventures ? >24. Courageous Cat & Minute Mouse Nope - too obscure for this list. >23. The Flintstones DEFINATELY needs to be higher ( top 10 at least ) >22. Beavis & Butthead This @&$*&$( does NOT belong on this list at all but in the trash can. >21. Jonny Quest (old one) YES ! >20. Peanuts Specials True, very good stuff. >19. Dungeons & Dragons not sure this belongs here either and shows the obviously biased views ( and age ) of the list producers. >18. Challenge of the Superfriends ?? - Superfriends I'll buy but what's the ' challenge' ( as opposed to other versions ? ) >17. GI JOE We ALL KNOW this needs to be in the top five minimum. >16. The Herculoids GREAT toon so, cool it made it. >15. Spider- Man (the Ralph Bakshi one) ??? >14. Popeye I guess as we are talking ' classics' then maybe this has to be here. >13. Ren & Stimpy Another trash can piece that should not even be in the top 100 >12. Tom & Jerry Yep, maybe even top 10. >11. Speed Racer I never liked Speed racer, sorry - but it has a huge fan base so should be on the list, maybe around # 20 though. >10. Pinky & the Brain Much too new to make the all-time top 25 list. >9. Battle of the Planets See above. >8. Rocky & Bullwinkle A certain classic and deserving of the list. >7. Gigantor Say what ? ( these writers need a clue on where these toons need ranking >6. Scooby-Doo TOP 5 piece, wheether you personally like it or not. >5. Robotech Yep, great stuff, I don't think I would call it as high as #5 but , hey.. >4. Superman (1941-1943) Not sure why the distinction of the old series here, but Superman toons are OK. >3. Batman:TAS Great show and very ' cutting edge / ground breaking' so should be on the list - not sure if at # 3 but, again.. >2. Simpsons Ok, definately NOT at #2, but the ONLY one of the trasht toons that should be on this list at all ( unique, first of it's kind, and it IS funny ) >1. Looney Tunes > OK, some said this should not be #1. I would differ as more viewers know and love these as anything else. I would have to say they need to make some distinctions in Looney Toons maybe ( ie: Bugs, RoadRunner,etc. ) but then they might overtake the entire list. Not here that should be : ** SAILOR MOON - ok, I know some will complain about this but, it is HUGE overseas, has sold millions of dollars in merchandise ( much more than many of the above, batman and Joe not withstanding )..it WILL go down as one of the all-time greats, ( and like Simpsons, was the first of it's genre..) I would say this rates top 10. ** Transformers - what more needs to be said.. awesome toon that has a trmendous following years after the cancellation. ** He-Man ( and ? SHe-RA ) - the first of the ' toy toons' and will allways be fondly remembered by many of us. Again cutting edge and decent animation seenm to make this an obvious choice. ** STARBLAZERS - limited release in the US , unfortunately but one of the greats. ** JEM - again, one of the cutting edge shows that was the first / only one of it's kind. A well thought out and written toon that is still aplicable today as it was then. ** also, I should say the exclusion of other modern giants as Ninja Turtles or maybe Ghostbusters would seem an oversight and uneducated. ?Smurfs Comments, ideas ( maybe we need to compile our own ' top 25' list - ballots please .. 8-) ..... - rocketeer - --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.28 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: attachments Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 16:49:34 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK, first a large THANKS to Budo for posting the cartoon listing here. His post ( and not to pick on him but to reiterate what has come before - and Conor or someone will mention if I don't ) reminded me of the following: PLEASE DO NOT post attachments to the list. hey are wasted space / download time and especially wreak havoc on the digests. Thanks. AL / rocketeer / ' public service messanger' ( ie : now you know and knowing..." --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.29 --------------- From: ralarcon@skyinet.net Subject: JLF Ordering Phase: GOOD TO GO Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 06:03:04 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi All, I just found more ways to ship it with less trouble so.....We can Continue Now :) 1) If it's alright with AL, Anyone interested may email him what they want until we have enough to make up 1 batch or everyone interested are done with sending their List AND Back-up List :) (Back Up List <--- very important) again, no limits on the # of duplicate figures unless I email otherwise ;) I'll respond whether they are available or not and confirm any substitutions in the back-up list. Please refer to my earlier posting on what's available or email me privately for any enquiries, trade referrence. 2) After everyone got their lists in, I'll be calculating the shipping costs and any extraneous costs (e.g. customs, etc...), divide it individually, and post it back for ALL to see. And Decide whether they want to continue OR back out. I'll re- calculate until we finally get the Final List. I shall NOT be asking any payments until we have the Final List. Action figures, initially, to test the waters. Well, that's it for now. The Ordering Phase. I'll be testing whether the solution I found is viable so, in the mean time, you can send in your lists to AL so I can verify whether they are available or not. Again, take your time & think it over. No need to hurry :) (not TOO long, though...) Lastly, there are unconfirmed reports that SOME of the regular 1992 figures are still available in limited quantities. I'll verify this, as well. ;) Good Luck All, Richard --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n714.30 --------------- From: "man9" Subject: Re: attachments Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 16:58:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >His post ( and not to pick on him but to reiterate what has come before - >and Conor or someone will mention if I don't ) reminded me of the following: > > PLEASE DO NOT post attachments to the list. > > hey are wasted space / download time and especially wreak havoc on the >digests. Unfortunately, WebTV users (which is what Rod is) automatically get the message that they are replying to sent as an attachment. Am I right, Rod? Shipwreck --------------- END gijoe.v001.n714 --------------- -------------- BEGIN gijoe.v001.n715 -------------- 001 - Bull - Re: Cartoon comments 002 - "Timmer Auto" - Re: Cartoon comments 007 - cedwards@tcia.net (Christ - least favorite 008 - BADSCNAME@aol.com - Re: Cartoon comments 009 - Rottweiler Subject: Re: Cartoon comments Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:26:57 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:46 PM 10/17/98 -0500, rktmoose@ix.netcom.com wrote these timeless words: >OK, comments on these : > >>For those who don't have the 'Toons' magazine, here is their Top 25 >>list: >> >>25. Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures > The new adventures ? > Was done in the mid 80's, IIRC... I wasn;t aprticularly fond of them though... Always liked the originals better. >>24. Courageous Cat & Minute Mouse > Nope - too obscure for this list. > Agreed, but good cartoon. ] >>23. The Flintstones > DEFINATELY needs to be higher ( top 10 at least ) > Agreed. This shoulod probably be Top 5. >>22. Beavis & Butthead > This @&$*&$( does NOT belong on this list at all but in the trash can. > This show is one of my personal pet peeves, and definately shows the decline of youth today . I don;t dislike it so much for the content (Though I find most of the humor to be a bit... Gutter-like), but for the fact that so many young kids watched it. I blamne the parents. But once again, this is not the time nor place for THAT particular argument :] >>21. Jonny Quest (old one) > YES ! > I do have to say I personally thoroughly enjoyed the new series as well, though it doesn;t belong on this list... At least not yet :] >>20. Peanuts Specials > True, very good stuff. > Of course... One of the highlights of any holiday was the Peanuts cartoons :] >>19. Dungeons & Dragons > not sure this belongs here either and shows the obviously biased views ( >and age ) of the list producers. > Maybe, but... If you think about it it was fairly groundbreaking. Looking back on the "Role Playing Game" industrty when this cartoon was aired, I'm really amazed that it ever made it onto television, what with all the bad press AD&D and RPG's in general was getting at the time. "Dark Dungeons" and Mazes and Monsters" anyone? :] Plus, to be honest, this list is really aimed at those of us between the ages of 21 and 30 or so, and this was one of the staple shows of my childhood. However, I agree that it probably shouldn;t have made this list. However, it's definately in the top 50 :] >>18. Challenge of the Superfriends > ?? - Superfriends I'll buy but what's the ' challenge' ( as opposed to >other versions ? ) > More than likely it was the version that was most remembered by the writers of this list, and most likely lumps all the SUperfriends cartoons into it. >>17. GI JOE > We ALL KNOW this needs to be in the top five minimum. > Hehe... While I love GIJoe, I'm not sure about that... I'd have placed it in the top 15, probably top ten, but... :] >>16. The Herculoids > GREAT toon so, cool it made it. > Definately... >>15. Spider- Man (the Ralph Bakshi one) > ??? > The original version of the cartoon, with the classic "Spider-Man, Spider-Man, does what only a Spider can" theme song. :] I personally would have gone with SPider Man and his Amazing Friends myself, but that's mostly cause it wasa big time Favorite cartoon growing up. They completely torched any actual comic continuity with that cartoon, but it was just damned cool :] >>14. Popeye > I guess as we are talking ' classics' then maybe this has to be here. > Oh yeah... I grew up on Popeye... :] >>13. Ren & Stimpy > Another trash can piece that should not even be in the top 100 > Well, I don;t agree there... It is Gutter Humor, but... It was definately a cut above Beavis and Butthead and the like... I'd definately say Top 50, but no where near Top 25 :] >>12. Tom & Jerry > Yep, maybe even top 10. > Agreed :] >>11. Speed Racer > I never liked Speed racer, sorry - but it has a huge fan base so should be >on the list, maybe around # 20 though. > I never quite got into it too, but is truly a classic toon :] And one of America's first exposure to Anime. :] >>10. Pinky & the Brain > Much too new to make the all-time top 25 list. > Hmmmm... I wouldn;t have made it 10, but definately somewhere in the 20's. Pinky and the Brain (And Animaniacs as well) really deserve a lot of credit. >>9. Battle of the Planets > See above. > See above which? Your comment about Pinky and The Brain, or Speed Racer? Just curious, since I'm almost too young to remember this toon (Almost :)) and I'm 24 :]. This, along with Robotech, Speed Racer, the SHow with the Yamamoto (Mind is blank at the moment), and Voltron were some of the classics in transplanted Anime, despite the massive American Butchering of the shows. :] >>8. Rocky & Bullwinkle > A certain classic and deserving of the list. > Yup :] >>7. Gigantor > Say what ? ( these writers need a clue on where these toons need ranking > Nope... This one I agree with, though this is one of the few I've only recently seen in repeats (Cartoon network reshowed this for a short while when the "Best of Saturday Morning Catoons" CD came out, since this was one of the songs. This was the very first Anime Transplant, and is a classic both there and here... :] Of course, I'm a big sucker for Anime in general, so... :] I wouldn;t have ranked thois nearly this high though... >>6. Scooby-Doo > TOP 5 piece, wheether you personally like it or not. > Agreed :] >>5. Robotech > Yep, great stuff, I don't think I would call it as high as #5 but , >hey.. > Agreed there too... Most of the anime pieces would have been rated up between 15 and 25 by me, but definately deserving :] >>4. Superman (1941-1943) > > Not sure why the distinction of the old series here, but Superman toons >are OK. > Because the Original series was the best :] Definately one I've only seen in reruns ( My PARENTS aren;t that old :)), but a fantastic series. Even the new Superman cartoon only comes close to the general quality of this... >>3. Batman:TAS > Great show and very ' cutting edge / ground breaking' so should be on the >list - not sure if at # 3 but, again.. > Agreed. Since we're commenting on new toons, I'd have placed it about 12 or so... >>2. Simpsons > Ok, definately NOT at #2, but the ONLY one of the trasht toons that should >be on this list at all ( unique, first of it's kind, and it IS funny ) > Hehe... Very unique, and it does have reasons for being high... :] >>1. Looney Tunes > OK, some said this should not be #1. I would differ as more viewers know >and love these as anything else. > I would have to say they need to make some distinctions in Looney Toons >maybe ( ie: Bugs, RoadRunner,etc. ) but then they might overtake the entire >list. > Hehe... Agreed here... > Not here that should be : > >** SAILOR MOON - ok, I know some will complain about this but, it is HUGE >overseas, has sold millions of dollars in merchandise ( much more than many >of the above, batman and Joe not withstanding )..it WILL go down as one of >the all-time greats, ( and like Simpsons, was the first of it's genre..) > I would say this rates top 10. > I woudn;t here... It's not exactly new nor groundbreaking... great series, but I'd have to rank sevreal other Americanized Animes above it... >** Transformers - what more needs to be said.. awesome toon that has a >trmendous following years after the cancellation. > Ohhhh yeah :] Transformers ranks right next to GIJoe :] >** He-Man ( and ? SHe-RA ) - the first of the ' toy toons' and will allways >be fondly remembered by many of us. Again cutting edge and decent animation >seenm to make this an obvious choice. > I wouldn;t put it all that high, but it's another one from my childhood :] >** STARBLAZERS - limited release in the US , unfortunately but one of the >greats. > THAT'S THE NAME!!!! :] See above on my Anime comments :] >** JEM - again, one of the cutting edge shows that was the first / only one >of it's kind. A well thought out and written toon that is still aplicable >today as it was then. > Also one of the first "Action" cartoons geared towards girls. However, I liked it too, somewhat, though I'd never have admitted it back then :] >** also, I should say the exclusion of other modern giants as Ninja Turtles >or maybe Ghostbusters would seem an oversight and uneducated. > Maybe... As a cartoon, Turtles was really lacking. I'd rank the Comic pretty high, since it was really cutting edge for the Independant Comic movement of the early 80's, but the cartoon was never anything really special, other than it was a great marketing tool and served to highly annoy those of us who were fans of the Original Turtles (Who ALL wore red bandannas, at least in the colorized re-release of the orginal comics. The original turtles were B&W :)). Ghostbusters, however, might make it, and is definately Top 50. If only they would have left off Slimer :] > ?Smurfs > Hmmmm... You know, as much as I hate to say it, yeah. I think they earned there little blue place in the top 25. Not sure where I'd rank them, but definately they belind. > Comments, ideas ( maybe we need to compile our own ' top 25' list - ballots >please .. 8-) ..... > Well, a few others that aren;t on there and possibly should be: Gargoyles -- Newer cartoon, but really should be there for all the reasons you listed for Batman: TAS, since it was originally done by the same people, and was really a unique concept. Plus, the storylines were fantastic. one of the most in depth cartoons I've ever seen, especially considering the somewhat short run it had on TV :( Reboot -- It was shown here at a really crappy time, so I never saw it as often as I'd have liked, but it was the first fully CGI cartoon, so if for no other reason, it ranks highly because of that. It was also a great cartoon with cool characters and great storylines. And some rather amusing interpretations of the "guts" of the computer :] Animaniacs -- Possibly... This show has had tremendous fan following in the 90's, and is a really fun show. If it had run longer, it would have had (and still could have) over the long run the same impact the Disney/Looney Tunes cartoons... speaking of Which... DISNEY! -- As a whole, the Disney cartoons and the characters (Mickey, Donald, Goofy, etc) have had as great an impact on the cartoon world and my childhood as Looney Tunes or any other cartoon. I mean, c;mon! They have several Themeparks for them!!! :] Jetsons -- The space age versions of the Flinstones. Definately another classic cartoon. Yogi Bear and Friends -- Yogi, and the various incarnations of the shows done by whoever it was that did Yogi. Wacky Racers, Laffalympics, Yogi and Friends, etc. All classics that I loved watching, and still enjoy seeing pop up on Cartoon network. Anyways, tehre are porbably more... But if you're gonna set up your own rating, may i suggest expanding to the Top 50. There are just too damned many cartoons out there for us to narrow it down that much :] Bull -- Bull -- The Best Ork Decker You Never Met chaos@ncweb.com ===== bull22@collegeclub.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/3604 ======================================================= = = = Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any Fours? = = = ======================================================= "2 year old Snacks! Made from real 2 year olds! Do not put 2 year old snacks in your mouth. 2 Year old snacks explode on contact with water." --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n715.2 --------------- From: "Timmer Auto" Subject: Re: Cartoon comments Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:40:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pinky and the Brain DO IMHO belong on the list,I like them a lot. As for he-man,I liked it,but one thing REALLY annoyed me as a child.I ALWAYS wanted to see a battle with ALL the enemies and good guys fighting at once. Tim --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n715.3 --------------- From: CUBSandOs@aol.com Subject: Re: Cartoon comments Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:40:56 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not a big Cartoon Buff, but have to comment on this one > >>2. Simpsons > > Ok, definately NOT at #2, but the ONLY one of the trasht toons that > should > >be on this list at all ( unique, first of it's kind, and it IS funny ) > > > Hehe... Very unique, and it does have reasons for being high... :] This DOES belong on this list and belongs here... I heard somewhere ( The weekly Guiness world record show?) that the simpsons is either the longest running cartoon, or longest running primetime cartoon in episodes, beating out Flinstones... I think they have had about 180 episodes... That is a bunch... and the cartoon is still ranking in the top 25 in the ratings, if that means anything... definately one of my all time favorites, and deserves to be their Matt --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n715.4 --------------- From: JSMosby61@aol.com Subject: Re: Cartoon comments Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 20:21:39 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's My opinion 25. Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures - I loved the original 24. Courageous Cat & Minute Mouse - missed this one 23. The Flintstones - top 5 for sure 22. Beavis & Butthead - not in my top 100 21. Jonny Quest (old one) - good stuff 20. Peanuts Specials - more of a top 10 to me 19. Dungeons & Dragons - not that good 18. Challenge of the Superfriends - the ones with the Legion of Doom were AWESOME 17. GI JOE - top 10 16. The Herculoids - gosh I am old 15. Spider- Man (the Ralph Bakshi one) - didn't like this at all 14. Popeye - I hope this is the old ones...good non PC stuff 13. Ren & Stimpy - too lame for me 12. Tom & Jerry - classic!!! 11. Speed Racer - top 20 to me 10. Pinky & the Brain - This and Animaniacs are some of the funniest toons ever!! 9. Battle of the Planets - I loved this one too 8. Rocky & Bullwinkle - w/ fractured Fairy tales, Dudley Do Right, Commander McBragg, & Mr Pebody! 7. Gigantor - not my bag 6. Scooby-Doo - LOVE IT!!!!! 5. Robotech - Never Seen it 4. Superman (1941-1943) - GOOOOOOOOD Stuff 3. Batman:TAS - Love the art but not top 10 2. Simpsons - Love it! 1. Looney Tunes - Willie and the boys!! My not mentioned include: Star Blazers - THE BEST JAPANESE EVER!!!! Animaniacs - Subtle humor is the best Speed Buggy - Showing my age Hong Kong Phooey - #1 Super Guy LaughOlympics - All the H/B guys! --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n715.5 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: Cartoon comments Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:42:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810172148.OAA01754@lists1.best.com> rktmoose@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > OK, comments on these : > > >For those who don't have the 'Toons' magazine, here is their Top 25 > >list: > > > >25. Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures > > The new adventures ? I haven't heard of it either. > > >24. Courageous Cat & Minute Mouse > > Nope - too obscure for this list. Never heard of that one, either. > > >23. The Flintstones > > DEFINATELY needs to be higher ( top 10 at least ) Agreed. > > >22. Beavis & Butthead > > This @&$*&$( does NOT belong on this list at all but in the trash can. I agree that it doesn't belong on the list. The cartoon segments were sometimes funny, but the parts where they mocked music videos were HORRIBLE. Mike Judge (creator of B&B) has done much better with _King of the Hill_. > > >21. Jonny Quest (old one) > > YES ! Agreed. > > >20. Peanuts Specials > > True, very good stuff. They were why we looked forward to the holidays that don't involve presents. :-) > > >19. Dungeons & Dragons > > not sure this belongs here either and shows the obviously biased views ( > and age ) of the list producers. I disagree. It belongs on the list because it was groundbreaking. Not only was it a fantasy cartoon in the conservative '80s, but it was based on a ROLEPLAYING GAME, the bane of the narrow-minded. The show was pretty average, but it's mere existance was groundbreaking. > > >18. Challenge of the Superfriends > > ?? - Superfriends I'll buy but what's the ' challenge' ( as opposed to > other versions ? ) Got me. By the time I was a kid, the Superfriends had been turned into the Superpowers, in order to promote the toyline of the same name. Still had those annoying twins, though. > > >17. GI JOE > > We ALL KNOW this needs to be in the top five minimum. Not really. I think it belongs on the list, but in the TOP FIVE? C'mon people, it was a series of toy commercials. The stories were very good, considering the restrictions, but it's not the Shakespeare of the animation world. > > >16. The Herculoids > > GREAT toon so, cool it made it. Never heard of it. > > >15. Spider- Man (the Ralph Bakshi one) > > ??? The series with the "Spiderman, Spiderman, does whatever a spider can" theme song. > > >14. Popeye > > I guess as we are talking ' classics' then maybe this has to be here. I never really liked Popeye and can't understand why it's considered a "classic". > > >13. Ren & Stimpy > > Another trash can piece that should not even be in the top 100 You're joking, right? It was a very funny show, although sometimes scatological humor was overused. > > >12. Tom & Jerry > > Yep, maybe even top 10. Agreed. > > >11. Speed Racer > > I never liked Speed racer, sorry - but it has a huge fan base so should be > on the list, maybe around # 20 though. I never cared for it either, but it's got a huge fan base, and these lists are more politics and personal preference than objective quality. > > >10. Pinky & the Brain > > Much too new to make the all-time top 25 list. Are you kidding? Pinky and the Brain were the best Animaniacs characters (with the Warner kids second) and easily deserve a top 5 spot. > > >9. Battle of the Planets > > See above. You mean it's too new? I don't think so, but I don't care for it, either. > > >8. Rocky & Bullwinkle > > A certain classic and deserving of the list. Agreed. > > >7. Gigantor > > Say what ? ( these writers need a clue on where these toons need ranking Gigantor DEFINATELY deserves the number 7 spot. > > >6. Scooby-Doo > > TOP 5 piece, wheether you personally like it or not. Eh, I'd give it #10 just because it's so popular, but every episode was the same! > > >5. Robotech > > Yep, great stuff, I don't think I would call it as high as #5 but , > hey.. I wouldn't call that butchered potpourri of Anime called _Robotech_ #5, either. Now Macross, on the other hand... > > >4. Superman (1941-1943) > > Not sure why the distinction of the old series here, but Superman toons > are OK. I've never cared for Superman (he's a Deus ex Machina), but he's really popular, so... > > >3. Batman:TAS > > Great show and very ' cutting edge / ground breaking' so should be on the > list - not sure if at # 3 but, again.. It's DEFINATELY #3. > > >2. Simpsons > > Ok, definately NOT at #2, but the ONLY one of the trasht toons that should > be on this list at all ( unique, first of it's kind, and it IS funny ) Brilliant social satire (though the liberal preaching sometimes offends me), great characters and usually quite entertaining plots and it DOESN'T deserve #2? C'mon man, this is one of America's few mature cartoons. > > >1. Looney Tunes > > > > OK, some said this should not be #1. I would differ as more viewers know > and love these as anything else. Exactly. > I would have to say they need to make some distinctions in Looney Toons > maybe ( ie: Bugs, RoadRunner,etc. ) but then they might overtake the entire > list. Right. Also, they'd better be including Merrie Melodies when they say "Looney Tunes". > > Not here that should be : > > ** SAILOR MOON - ok, I know some will complain about this but, it is HUGE > overseas, has sold millions of dollars in merchandise ( much more than many > of the above, batman and Joe not withstanding )..it WILL go down as one of > the all-time greats, ( and like Simpsons, was the first of it's genre..) > I would say this rates top 10. Agreed. This show takes an overused plot (a team of superheroes with secret identities fight evil) and actually makes it good. > > ** Transformers - what more needs to be said.. awesome toon that has a > trmendous following years after the cancellation. Never watched it, so can't comment. > > ** He-Man ( and ? SHe-RA ) - the first of the ' toy toons' and will allways > be fondly remembered by many of us. Again cutting edge and decent animation > seenm to make this an obvious choice. I dunno...although I liked this show as a kid, even then I was picking it apart. He-Man was the STUPIDEST man in the universe. He saved Skeletor's life on several occasions! He didn't have the power of Grayskull, he had the power of Numbskull. The toys were great, though. > > ** STARBLAZERS - limited release in the US , unfortunately but one of the > greats. > > ** JEM - again, one of the cutting edge shows that was the first / only one > of it's kind. A well thought out and written toon that is still aplicable > today as it was then. > > ** also, I should say the exclusion of other modern giants as Ninja Turtles > or maybe Ghostbusters would seem an oversight and uneducated. Definately _The Real Ghostbusters_, but there was nothing special about the Turtle toon. > > ?Smurfs BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That show was propaganda, pure and simple. > > Comments, ideas ( maybe we need to compile our own ' top 25' list - ballots > please .. 8-) ..... > > - rocketeer - > -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n715.6 --------------- From: Bull Subject: Re: Cartoon comments Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:08:35 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:42 PM 10/17/98 -0700, Rottweiler wrote these timeless words: >> >19. Dungeons & Dragons >> >> not sure this belongs here either and shows the obviously biased views ( >> and age ) of the list producers. > >I disagree. It belongs on the list because it was groundbreaking. Not >only was it a fantasy cartoon in the conservative '80s, but it was based >on a ROLEPLAYING GAME, the bane of the narrow-minded. The show was >pretty average, but it's mere existance was groundbreaking. > Hehe... Great Minds Think Alike , and all that :] Sounds a lot like my comments :] >> >18. Challenge of the Superfriends >> >> ?? - Superfriends I'll buy but what's the ' challenge' ( as opposed to >> other versions ? ) > >Got me. By the time I was a kid, the Superfriends had been turned into >the Superpowers, in order to promote the toyline of the same name. >Still had those annoying twins, though. > I think this actually refers to some of the earlier episodes, from the late 70's or very early 80's, BEFORE the Wonder Twins. Hands up if you remember Wendy, Marvin, and Wonderdog :] They were annoying in their own right, but... There was something cool about two non-superpowered kids who could hang around with the Supers and actually give good ideas every now and then :] Bull -- Bull -- The Best Ork Decker You Never Met chaos@ncweb.com ===== bull22@collegeclub.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/3604 ======================================================= = = = Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any Fours? = = = ======================================================= "2 year old Snacks! Made from real 2 year olds! Do not put 2 year old snacks in your mouth. 2 Year old snacks explode on contact with water." --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n715.7 --------------- From: cedwards@tcia.net (Christopher Edwards) Subject: least favorite Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:12:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think my least favorite Joe is ninja force Scarlett. After years of no females, Hasbro finally does a new version of one of the key female charcters in the series-and this is what we get? Big hips, poor articulation, and a terrible costume-(the Ninja Force was, IMHO, the nadir of character design for the line). Not only that, but Scarlett gets stuck with that lemom/lime outfit in the comics, too. On the other hand, the artwork on the card is lovely... Top of my wish list should Joe return-A good Scarlett figure in a halfway realisitic uniform. Least favorite Cobra is an open field, lot of contenders-(Raptor, Darklon, et al) But I'm going with the later Heat Viper, the Battle Corps incarnation. He's just dull. A green suit, a visor and three grenades on his chest. Looks like he was designed on somebody's lunch hour. There were sillier figures, but none blander. Least favorite vehicle-The LCV recon sled. Would you want to drive that into battle? How did they con Bazooka into getting in it for the box art? "Go ahead, try it...it helps you crawl." High John --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n715.8 --------------- From: BADSCNAME@aol.com Subject: Re: Cartoon comments Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:14:30 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << There was something cool about two non-superpowered kids who could hang around with the Supers and actually give good ideas every now and then :] Bull >> ...cool my ass... --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n715.9 --------------- From: Rottweiler Subject: Re: Cartoon comments Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:30:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199810180112.SAA19377@lists1.best.com> Bull wrote: > > At 05:42 PM 10/17/98 -0700, Rottweiler wrote these timeless words: > > >> >18. Challenge of the Superfriends > >> > >> ?? - Superfriends I'll buy but what's the ' challenge' ( as opposed to > >> other versions ? ) > > > >Got me. By the time I was a kid, the Superfriends had been turned into > >the Superpowers, in order to promote the toyline of the same name. > >Still had those annoying twins, though. > > > I think this actually refers to some of the earlier episodes, from the late > 70's or very early 80's, BEFORE the Wonder Twins. Right, I know the Superfriends were around before they were turned into _The Superpowers: Galactic Guardians_. I saw a few of the old episodes and remember thinking 'Superfriends' was the dumbest name possible for a group of Superheroes. > Hands up if you remember > Wendy, Marvin, and Wonderdog :] Who? > They were annoying in their own right, > but... There was something cool about two non-superpowered kids who could > hang around with the Supers and actually give good ideas every now and then :] What the heck are you talking about? > > Bull > -- -- Michael "Rottweiler" Wallen "We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." -- David Brin --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n715.10 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Cartoon comments Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:17:42 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Speed Buggy - Showing my age >Hong Kong Phooey - #1 Super Guy >LaughOlympics - All the H/B guys! > > Funny you should mention all these ( for us old guys ..8).. As there seem to be NO Hanna Barbera toons on the list except Scooby Doo (?Flintstones ). The Warner Bros toons seem to all get grouped into ' Looney Toons' whereas the HB ones seem to stand out more individualy. - rocketeer - --------------- MESSAGE gijoe.v001.n715.11 --------------- From: rktmoose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Cartoon comments Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:02:04 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii rktmoose@ix.netcom.com wrote these timeless words: Well, I don't know about timeless... But this seems to have really taken off so thanks to Budo for the list and glad I commented to get the ball rolling .. 8-) OK, more comments on these : > >>>22. Beavis & Butthead > >This show is one of my personal pet peeves, and definately shows the >decline of youth today . I don;t dislike it so much for the content >(Though I find most of the humor to be a bit... Gutter-like), but for the >fact that so many young kids watched it. I blamne the parents. But once >again, this is not the time nor place for THAT particular argument :] > You do have a point there... I hate the toon and would not weatch that garbage -it's reallt too bad that our society has sunk this far .. ( and don't EVEN get me started on South Park and others that are as bad or worse ) >>>21. Jonny Quest (old one) >> YES ! >> >I do have to say I personally thoroughly enjoyed the new series as well, >though it doesn;t belong on this list... At least not yet :] I like the new one - and it should make the list, maybe due to being the first (? ) to make extensive use of CGA. >>>20. Peanuts Specials >> True, very good stuff. >> >Of course... One of the highlights of any holiday was the Peanuts cartoons :] > YOU SAID IT M'MAN ! >>>19. Dungeons & Dragons >> not sure this belongs here either and shows the obviously biased views ( >>and age ) of the list producers. >> >Maybe, but... If you think about it it was fairly groundbreaking. Looking >back on the "Role Playing Game" industrty when this cartoon was aired, I'm >really amazed that it ever made it onto television, what with all the bad >press AD&D and RPG's in general was getting at the time. "Dark Dungeons" >and Mazes and Monsters" anyone? :] > hmm, with all of the comments on this one - I still do not think it was a great cartoon ( ok but..) however, given that it DID get shown during the ' roleplay paranoia' era - it might stand for something.. And, maybe it was one of the first fantasy type shows ( Hobbit anyone ? ) >>>17. GI JOE >> We ALL KNOW this needs to be in the top five minimum. >> >Hehe... > >While I love GIJoe, I'm not sure about that... I'd have placed it in the >top 15, probably top ten, but... :] > You will likely get lynched for saying this on this list... I disagree as Joe was one of the first direct syndicated toons ( more violence, etc. ) and was ( at least the Sunbow ones ) quite well done. >>>13. Ren & Stimpy >> Another trash can piece that should not even be in the top 100 >> >Well, I don;t agree there... It is Gutter Humor, but... It was definately >a cut above Beavis and Butthead and the like... I'd definately say Top 50, >but no where near Top 25 :] > well, entitled to your opinion, I guess. >>>11. Speed Racer >> I never liked Speed racer, sorry - but it has a huge fan base so should be >>on the list, maybe around # 20 though. >> >I never quite got into it too, but is truly a classic toon :] And one of >America's first exposur